2007 Toyota Camry

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  • blackexv6blackexv6 Member Posts: 503
    31k for a Camry! You've got to be kidding. I thought the Accord EXV6 w/NAVI was becoming overpriced. Anyone who pays over 25k for a Camry needs to get a reality check and visit their local Lexus dealer. Honda shouldn't be worried after all...the EXV6 Accord is still the best value on the market.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Member Posts: 7,160
    The idea of a $31K ( w/Navi ) Camry is not to sell a ton of them.. These are 'support' for the Avalon XLS @$33600!!

    A client comes in and says I want an Avy XLS but I want it at $30000... Can I show you an XLE V6 Camry with Navi for $31000, same engine, same style, slightly smaller but quicker and the Navi for free? Now the buyer has two good choices...

    This is one reason why Toyota's marketing is so astute. Put the two next to each other and see that they look nearly identical but the Avy has nicer appointments and the Camry has nicer features. There is good solid 'coherence' throughout the Toyota lineup from the Yaris on up. One trim level supports the one above it.
  • alpha01alpha01 Member Posts: 4,747
    Who exactly do you think you are to judge how people should spend their money? The new Camry XLE V6 has several items that the Accord EX V6 lacks- such as SmartKey, larger Navigation screen, more power, better fuel efficiency, an extra cog in the transmission, fog lights, 440 Watt JBL sound, etc.

    No doubt, some will take the $29.9K Accord EX V6 vs. the Camry XLE V6 at $31K, but its their call.

    ~alpha
  • tinatinatinatina Member Posts: 388
    I concur that tranny design problem may be an issue again. The USA Today journalist was lukewarm to the Camry. I don't think Toyota pushed the envelope with this vehicle as much as they could of. I'm considering the 4 cylinder LE auto, and it appears that overall space now has shrunk, handling may be worse, and the horsepower lags the competition. I hope there is no further penalty in horsepower for the PZEV units in CA. However, its only one man's opinion and this person works for the MSM. The MSM is never wrong, right?
  • w9cww9cw Member Posts: 888
    With all due respect to Toyota, and everyone here on this forum, with the exception of Toyota's excellent attention to the side-impact structural ridigity of new 2007 Camry, a side-air bag equipped 2006 Camry LE is starting to look awfully good to this average family buyer looking for legacy-style Camry value, and maxium passenger and cargo space.
  • tomjavatomjava Member Posts: 136
    Wow! :surprise: No wonder the new Camry price is competitive yet it offers much more than previous model.

    http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aTkufGZiqHOs&refer=news_in- - dex
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Member Posts: 7,160
    I will go with my own opinion. The LE is a family sedan so as a result for performance - no cares OK I admit thre are 3 people in the US that do care about the hp of the 2.4L. 300 times a year I find that the buyers just want to see the style, the space and features. Keep it inexpensive and make sure it has the Toyota name on it and it will sell. It has become that simple.

    Now for performance the V6 with the 6 speed is in a class by itself... add the sport package and the Accord and others are literally left in the dust all during this spring buying season. Nice positioning on the launch. ;)

    As I mentioned above this Gen was the V6 and hybrid Gen. The Gen5 was the 2.4L and bigger body Gen.

    Detractors will be found everywhere, and who knows maybe there is another agenda present???
  • maxamillion1maxamillion1 Member Posts: 1,467
    My area is ALREADY expecting new Camrys by Monday...anybody heard any word on this yet?

    I talked with a salesmen about the new Camry yesterday and they expect a BIG majority of sales to be LE models. According to him about 70+ percent of Camrys sold in the SET region will be LE models. Nationwide...he says 60 percent will be LE models. No surprises there.

    The guy was EXTREMELY knowledgeable...and he mentioned that in the SET region, the SE will still be VERY limited and they don't expect to sell many of them. He stated that Toyota is essentially using the SE model to lure younger people into the dealership and then try and get them into LE and XLE models with accessories (something the SET region is known for) I frankly believe him because he was pretty much accurate on everything else we talked about. As a matter of fact, his first Camry to arrive will be an LE in Silver with SET accessories..driving the price to over $24K.

    I got some great details on the current allocation of models this particular salesman would be getting and I thought long and hard about trading in my Altima for one. I've narrowed my options down to the XLEI4 or SEI4. More than likely the XLE since the SE will be hard to find in my region.

    My problem is I want a stick shift..and very few Japanese cars come with them anymore. Try finding an Altima, Camry or Accord stick shift with any options in South Carolina...you'll be disappointed.

    The only problem I am having now is deciding if I should wait until April to see the new Altima or just going ahead and getting rid of my Altima right now.

    I love that car..but it just hasn't been the same since my accident.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Member Posts: 2,363
    ...they've successfully demonstrated how you can take the Toyota cash cow and squeeze more milk out of it until it moos from pain. It helps to have THE franchise, and the legal protection to do just about anything you want.

    If I lived there, I think I would travel just about any distance to avoid buying a car from these pirates. It's fascinating to go to a pricing website [like Kelley] and try to sort through the real factory options vs the long, invented laundry list of add-ons that the SET people keep coming up with. Give them credit - the free enterprise system taken to its logical extreme....
  • clipper1clipper1 Member Posts: 70
    Anyone have thoughts about a new 'J' vin Camry and waiting for the price to drop for the American built?
  • tinatinatinatina Member Posts: 388
    I don't necessarily agree with you about nobody caring about the 4 cylinder engine. Lets face it the LE -4 is the most popular model with 60% to 70% of sales. With respect to the 4 cylinder versions, I don't think Toyota pushed the envelope as far as it could in terms of horsepower and fuel economy, especically when considering over $2 gallon gas prices. The 4 cylinder should be getting more hp (in the 170 range) and better fuel economy. In these areas, Toyota appears to have failed to stand out. Also, another thing that is bugging me is the styling, which is borrowed/copied from a Mazda in front and a BMW in back. Finally, lets hope that quality holds up. The 2002 Camry had a white dot in CR and the new Avalon got a white dot. "Fit and finish" appear to be the biggest issues.

    These are my opinions, and they (nor the scribe for U.S. Today) would obviously impact overall sales, which will be very strong. But the mid size market is too competitive and the envelope has not been pushed as much as it should have been by Toyota. Basically, everyone makes a good mid size car. This may come back to bite Toyota, but only time will tell.
  • lmacmillmacmil Member Posts: 1,758
    "31k for a Camry! You've got to be kidding." This is an opinion.

    "Anyone who pays over 25k for a Camry needs to get a reality check and visit their local Lexus dealer."

    This is telling people willing to pay $31K they're stupid. Do you see the difference?

    Try finding a Lexus ES for less than $36K. Betcha can't. ;)
  • alpha01alpha01 Member Posts: 4,747
    I think you may be jumping to conclusions in terms of the 6A. NONE of the other tests of the Camry V6 that I have seen thus far have pointed to ANY issue with the transmission- and this includes larger publications like Motor Trend and here on edmunds.com.

    Regarding the four cylinder- again, I expect that Toyota may add Dual VVTi down the line. 158 horses isnt spectacular, but acceleration should be competitive and adequate for the needs of the people who are buying this vehicle. As an FYI, your percentages are off; the 4 cylinders combined are expected to sell 60% of the line Camry line, according to Car and Driver, not just the LE. The Hybrid, I believe is expected at 8%, and the rest, obviously, V6s..

    Re: the USA Today review-James Healy, in my opinion, not from only this review but many others.... is less than top notch in caliber. Even reading the USA Today review, it is disjointed and jumps around.

    Overall space has shrunk very slightly .3%. When I was in the Camry, I certainly didnt notice it in comparison to my 'rents '02.

    I would recommend reserving judgement until you drive the vehicle... I dont think handling will be worse, given the revised suspension and much wider track, coupled with substantially larger tires- 16s vs. 15s, and 215s vs. 205s.

    I'm interested to see how the brake pedal feel is, as the Camry with drums was not very impressive, and distances were a bit long for my tastes. The '07 should address this, as they all come with rear discs, and larger swept area.

    ~alpha
  • tinatinatinatina Member Posts: 388
    I made no opinion whatsoever about the new vehicle's tranny issue, or non-issue. They said it was a pre-production vehicle, so if its a pre-production vehicle, then its not an issue. I also jokingly indicated that the MSM can not be wrong. So as far as USA Today or USA Tomorrow, its only one person's opinion. You can follow it as you elect to do so - accept it as true or drink the Toyota Kool-Aid- and says its bull.

    With that said, I think Toyota could have pushed the envelope with the new Camry and in my opinion, from a horspower standpoint of the 4 cylinder, fuel economy, and handling, and even styling, I think they've missed the mark a bit on those issues. With the 4 wheel disc brakes and the added airbags, those are pluses.

    As far as Toyota sales, I said that the 4 cylinders now account for 60% to 70% of Camry solds. You are talking about Toyota projections about the 2007s, which are not rooted in actual numbers at this time.
  • lmacmillmacmil Member Posts: 1,758
    "I think Toyota could have pushed the envelope with the new Camry..."

    You don't stay on top by pushing the envelope. You stay on top by making non-controversial, incremental improvements.

    Remember what happened to the Taurus in 1996 when they pushed the envelope styling-wise? It never recovered.
  • tinatinatinatina Member Posts: 388
    Please don't take my sentence out of context. You obviously omitted the rest of my sentence. I said they could have pushed the envelope further in terms of horsepower and fuel economy of the 4 cylinder autos. Northing more ...nothing less. Anyone expecting a radical redesign of a very successful vehicle would be smoking something. In those two areas I mentioned, they have not made any "incremental" improvements. I do not make this statement with respect to the 6 cylinder engine and the
    new, 6 speed automatic. There, they pushed the envelope and made incremental, one could even say dramatic, improvements and are ahead of all other non-luxury brand makes (i.e. Honda, Nissan, etc.)
  • andy82471andy82471 Member Posts: 120
    I do not make this statement with respect to the 6 cylinder engine and the
    new, 6 speed automatic. There, they pushed the envelope and made incremental, one could even say dramatic, improvements and are ahead of all other non-luxury brand makes (i.e. Honda, Nissan, etc.)


    Maybe they want more people to opt for the V6 engine compare to the previous Gen. Camrys.
  • petomlinpetomlin Member Posts: 103
    I'm really looking forward to driving the Camry V6 SE version. Anyone know anything about the differences between the LE/XLE versus the SE?
  • alpha01alpha01 Member Posts: 4,747
    "With that said, I think Toyota could have pushed the envelope with the new Camry and in my opinion, from a horspower standpoint of the 4 cylinder, fuel economy, and handling, and even styling, I think they've missed the mark a bit on those issues. With the 4 wheel disc brakes and the added airbags, those are pluses."

    Styling is a subjective matter, and I understand your comment on HP and MPG, those are observable on paper, but how do you know what Toyota did or didnt do in terms of handling? I am assuming you havent driven the vehicle..

    "As far as Toyota sales, I said that the 4 cylinders now account for 60% to 70% of Camry solds. "

    Actually, the direct quote from your prior post was:
    "Lets face it the LE -4 is the most popular model with 60% to 70% of sales"

    So your claim was that the LE sells 60 to 70%, not all 4s sell 60-70%, which is what I was trying to clarify.

    ~alpha
  • tinatinatinatina Member Posts: 388
    I wrote incorrectly about the LE -4s. I meant 60 to 70% of all Camrys sold now are 4 cylinder units and corrected that in a subsequent post, if you bothered to read it. However, in your original post, you meant expected sales when referring to the 2007s because you cited what Car and Driver were saying. So, I don't think we were commenting exactly about the same thing.

    I still stand by all comments about the 4 cylinder units with respect to mpg and hp. Styling is up to the buyer. So, we don't really have a disagreement with respect to that issue.

    As far as the USA Today article, I take it with a grain of salt. However, I do not know whether he has a bias or agenda as some other posters implied here.

    Alpha, do you know whether the hp is lower for PZEV units?

    Take Care.
  • autoboy16autoboy16 Member Posts: 992
    Just an off topic thought. The tC and solara use the old camry's 2.4 I4 right? Does this mean the next model year tC and solara will get a new I4 from this new camry? :confuse: ? This has been bugging me. The I4 is strong but needs a little more oomph (more being keyword).
  • samchinchsamchinch Member Posts: 47
    Everyone is is in here talking about how improvements are being made. I think it is just the opposite. If you look at the 2006 Toyota Camry XLE and look at the 2007 XLE that is coming out there are things taken away not improved. First of all they got rid of the 8 way passenger seat, Second they added reclining seats in the back seat in place of the folding rear seats. Big mistake when it comes to conveinence I appreciate folding seats alot more. What are reclining seats going to do for me when I need to carry an item that is long. Third, they reduced trunk space. Fourth, they got rid of the full size spare tire. If you ask me Toyota is downgrading their product rather than improving it.
  • maxamillion1maxamillion1 Member Posts: 1,467
    the XLE always had a 4-way power passenger's seat?

    Dang..learn something new everyday.
  • lmacmillmacmil Member Posts: 1,758
    If you can believe Edmunds comparator on the Toyota website, the 2006 passenger seat is 4 way adjustable.
  • dampfnudeldampfnudel Member Posts: 131
    You're not the only one who thought the XLE only came with a 4-way power passenger's seat. I know for sure that the Accord EX V6 only comes with a 4-way power passenger's seat.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Member Posts: 7,160
    You missed my point..

    In discussing with actual buyers about 4c and horsepower, all you get are blank stares. In theory or to a person on these boards this type of comparison means something.

    To the majority of the buying public as a whole... it is of less importance than the dot at then end of this sentence. How does it look? What's in it? What's the price? Performance and Camry LE or CE in the same sentence? Nope.

    Also as I said in a prior post this is not the year of the 4c. The emphasis this year is on the V6 and the hybrid with a little tweak on the 4c.

    Also from what appears to be very valid concerns in your mind... the Camry just may not be the vehilce for you personally. But, having had zero problems since 1989 on 4 different models all with little weak lawnmover engines, this 4c is a comparative rocket!!! I/we ( the typical CE/LE buyer ) have little or no need for a 170 hp 4c.
  • alpha01alpha01 Member Posts: 4,747
    I definitely didnt see a correction, my apologies, Im not sure which post you are referring to. Although I was stating what C/D presented as Toyota's projections for the 4 cylinder sales, I'd consider it a very strong leading indicator for the actual percentages that Toyota will produce and sell...this is Toyota we're talking about, this is their bread and butter model, how they built their name...I'd be shocked if those numbers are signficantly different.

    With regard to the 4, just try it first. The only reason I'm peeved about the 158 horse rating is because the same engine makes 166 in the RAV, and I dont understand what accounts for the difference. I'm guessing it has to do with exhaust/breathing.

    Agree about the USA Today article. Personally, I cant stand James Healy.

    IIRC, HP is lower for PZEV '07 Camrys. I believe its like 153 SAE.

    ~alpha
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    According to a recent Ward's Automotive Reports, the 2007 Camry is projected to sell in these percentages, as I recall:

    LE: 60%
    XLE: 17%
    SE: 10%
    Hybrid: 8%
    CE: 5%

    I don't remember if they gave a breakdown by engine type, but of course all Hybrids and CEs will have the 4-cylinder, and I would expect the vast majority of LEs will be so equipped.
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    As I said earlier (maybe in a different Camry thread), my 2005 Camry XLE has a standard 8-way power passenger seat (fore/aft, front height, rear height, and seat back recline). It lacks only the power lumber support found on the driver's seat.

    For 2007, the Toyota pressroom site's preliminary specs mention only a 4-way power passenger seat for the XLE. However, a press kit CD that I obtained shows photos of the XLE interior, and one clearly shows the same switches on the '07 XLE's passenger seat that I have on my '05. So I guess we'll have to wait and see which is correct -- the specs or the photos.
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    As I indicated above, the jury is still out on the matter of the power seat in the XLE.

    But regarding the three other "take-aways," here are my thoughts:

    Temporary spare (all models): It's too bad, but Toyota is obviously going with the flow and it's a simple way to keep costs down. I did appreciate, however, having a 5th regular tire on my '97, '04, and '05 Camrys. It's a plus if you puncture one tire (even if repairable) and still have 4 good tires left. The repaired tire can become the permanent spare.

    Reclining rear seats (XLE): I think it's a nice touch, and will add an element of luxury to the car. The fold down seat will still be available in the LE and CE for those who prefer utility over luxury. I personally rarely use the fold down feature (but then again I have a Nissan Frontier pickup to carry big loads).

    Smaller trunk (all models): Not a plus, but it is a bow to the gods of style (and everyone harped on how bland the 2002-06 model looked). Not me though -- I like the front end of the outgoing model much better than the 2007.
  • neno8403neno8403 Member Posts: 49
    I live in Suburban Maryland right outside of Washington, DC and I don't know if this has anything to do with that fact that the Washington, DC region is one the wealthiest areas in the country but I can tell you that Camry SE's (especially the '06 SE V6s) sell like hotcakes around here. Of course there are more LE's around but I see several SE's speeding down the street or parked somewhere on a daily basis. I remember I went to three different Toyota dealerships in my area TWICE to test drive the 2006 Camry SE V6 and every dealership was completely sold out of them. One salesman at Carmax Toyota told me that the SE V6's were extremely popular and they can never keep enough of them on the lot. I finally found an SE V6 to test drive after waiting a couple weeks.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Member Posts: 7,160
    Your 4 points:

    I too would be shocked if the 8-way seat disappeared on the XLE. This is such a nice feature for a top-of-the-line trim that it seems unlikely to drop it. We'll know this week :D

    Temporary spare is a minor inconvenience. I did enjoy having it. Some Corolla buyers are trading their donuts for full sized spares. The well accepts both in the Corolla. OTOH Honda has gotten by forever with only temps. Apparently there isn't enough customer demand to warrant the FSS any longer. On the last Gen when they went to the 'standard' trimline no one but no one screamed about the loss of the FSS.

    I have never in 16 years of driving Camry's needed to fold down the back seats.

    Each of us will have to test our own requirements regarding the trunk capacity. As in your case your truck serves to do most of the hauling duties. I also think for vacations and long trips many ( most ? ) have either an SUV or minivan that's used because of the massive amounts of storage space. Family sedans aren't the prime vehicle any longer for travelling. Most families have a sedan or two one larger vehicle and maybe a truck.
  • tinatinatinatina Member Posts: 388
    Alpha, thanks for the information about the PZEV units. Thanks for your good point about the same engine being in the RAV and it having more HP.

    Others: I tend to agree that the spare should be full-size.

    As far as the rear seats, they should fold down on all models and this is a convenience feature to have, but Toyota does not agree. I'm glad thise feature is standard on the LE 4 though. This is why in part I did not purchase the Avalon.

    As far as the trunk size, the Camry's trunk was quite large to begin with, especially when compared to an Accord. Any change would be barely noticeable.
  • neno8403neno8403 Member Posts: 49
    Here are some prices for 2007 Camry's at a Toyota dealership in my area:

    2007 Toyota Camry CE
    Body: 4DR Base
    Color: Super White
    Interior: Ash Gray Cloth

    Delivered Internet Price: $19,730
    Factory Invoice: $18,758
    Delivered Value Price: $20,099
    MSRP: $20,099

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    2007 Toyota Camry LE
    Body: 4DR LE Auto
    Color: Magnetic Gray
    Interior: Ash Gray Cloth

    Delivered Internet Price: $20,910
    Factory Invoice: $19,442
    Delivered Value Price: $21,279
    MSRP: $21,279

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    2007 Toyota Camry LE V6
    Body: 4DR V6 LE
    Color: Blue Ribbon
    Interior: Ash Gray Cloth

    Delivered Internet Price: $24,450
    Factory Invoice: $22,392
    Delivered Value Price: $24,819
    MSRP: $24,819

    Features
    - CF1

    FACTORY INSTALLED OPTIONS
    CF1 - CARPET/CARGO MAT SET
    DK - OWNERS PORTFOLIO
    EJ - AM/FM/CD CHANGER/MP3/BLUETOOTH
    FE - 50 STATE EMISSION REQUIREMENT

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    2007 Toyota Camry SE
    Body: 4DR SE Auto
    Color: Magnetic Gray
    Interior: Dark Charcoal Cloth

    Delivered Internet Price:$25,049
    Factory Invoice: $22,726
    Delivered Value Price:$25,418
    MSRP: $25,418

    Features
    - AS

    FACTORY INSTALLED OPTIONS
    AS - 17 INCH ALUMINUM ALLOY WHEELS
    CF1 - CARPET/CARGO MAT SET
    DK - OWNERS PORTFOLIO
    EJ - AM/FM/CD CHANGER/MP3/BLUETOOTH
    FE - 50 STATE EMISSION REQUIREMENT
    RF - REAR SPOILER
    SR - PWR TILT/SLIDE MOONROOF
    VS - VEH STABILITY/TRACTION CONTROL
    WL - WHEEL LOCKS

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    2007 Toyota Camry SE
    Body: 4DR SE
    Color: Titanium Silver
    Interior: Dark Charcoal Leather

    Delivered Internet Price: $30,544
    Factory Invoice: $27,486
    Delivered Value Price: $30,913
    MSRP: $30,913

    Features
    - AS

    FACTORY INSTALLED OPTIONS
    AS - 17 INCH ALUMINUM ALLOY WHEELS
    CF1 - CARPET/CARGO MAT SET
    DK - OWNERS PORTFOLIO
    FE - 50 STATE EMISSION REQUIREMENT
    NV - NAVIGATION SYSTEM
    QC - LEATHER PACKAGE W/POWER SEATS
    RF - REAR SPOILER
    SR - PWR TILT/SLIDE MOONROOF
    VS - VEH STABILIY/TRACTION CONTROL
    WL - WHEEL LOCKS

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    2007 Toyota Camry XLE
    Body: 4DR XLE 4SP
    Auto Color: Titanium Silver

    Interior: Ash Gray Leather
    Delivered Internet Price: $27,189
    Factory Invoice: $24,758
    Delivered Value Price: $27,558
    MSRP: $27,558

    Features
    - DK

    FACTORY INSTALLED OPTIONS
    DK - OWNERS PORTFOLIO
    FE - 50 STATE EMISSION REQUIREMENT
    HD - HEATED DRIVER/PASS FRT SEATS
    LA - LEATHER PACKAGE W/POWER SEATS
    VS - VEH STABILIY/TRACTION CONTROL
    Z1 - PREFERRED ACCESSORY PACKAGE

    ================================================

    2007 Toyota Camry XLE V6
    Body: 4DR V6 XLE
    Color: Titanium Silver
    Interior: Ash Gray Leather

    Delivered Internet Price: $30,894
    Factory Invoice: $28,112
    Delivered Value Price: $31,263
    MSRP: $31,263

    Features
    - CF1

    FACTORY INSTALLED OPTIONS
    CF1 - CARPET/CARGO MAT SET
    DK - OWNERS PORTFOLIO
    FE - 50 STATE EMISSION REQUIREMENT
    HD - HEATED DRIVER/PASS FRT SEATS
    NV - NAVIGATION SYSTEM
    SK - SMART KEY SYSTEM
    V2 - VIP GLASS BREAKAGE SENSOR
    VS - VEH STABILIY/TRACTION CONTROL
    WL - WHEEL LOCKS
  • joecarnutjoecarnut Member Posts: 215
    What does "Delivered Internet Price" and "Delivered Value Price" mean.
    Do one of those terms mean out the door?
  • neno8403neno8403 Member Posts: 49
    The prices I quoted are from a special "No-Haggle-Pricing" dealership in my area so they operate differently than the standard Toyota dealership. "Delivered Internet Price" means the price of the car if you purchase it online and "Delivered Value Price" is an exclusive package offered by this dealership that includes a Lifetime Loaner Car Program and Buyer Protection Plan so the price listed is the price of the vehicle in addition to the loaner car program and protection plan. These prices are probably somewhat lower than what you'd find at a traditional dealership.
  • joecarnutjoecarnut Member Posts: 215
    Thanks for clearing that up for me. :)
  • mackabeemackabee Member Posts: 4,709
    My thoughts are as follows: Full size spare, hate to see it go as I have always used it to replace one of the regular tires since one always seems to wear more than the other three. I could live with the temp though no big deal. Split fold down seats I have used maybe twice since 1991 when I had to replace my mail box post after my neighbor backed into it and on long trips they do come in handy to reach for stuff when you don't want to stop and open the trunk. The power seat on the new 2007 IS an 8 way power seat. Fitzmall.com is the dealership with the "delivered internet price" and the other price. No these are not Out the door prices since buyers from MD, VA, WV, DC and other states buy there so it would be impractical to list all . I'm surprised they are already discounting the car and it's not even out yet. They must have a big nut to crack.
    :confuse:
    Mackabee
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Member Posts: 7,160
    I had the same discussion here. A lot of the managers here 'made their bones' in the DC market. It's a slightly more genteel LA. Between Fitzmall and Carmax Laurel theyhave people flying in from all over the country to drive home an internet special. Look over at the RAV forum recently.

    This is the new Toyota in action..
  • neno8403neno8403 Member Posts: 49
    Not really a new concept. Fitzgerald Auto Mall and Carmax prefer online transactions but I got my car at Fitzgerald in person. But I was researching 2006 Camry SE's a few months ago through Darcars Toyota of Silver Spring and their internet specials were amazing. They had an SE V6 that had an MSRP of around 25K discounted to around 20K...I think it might have actually been 19K I have to look at my email they sent me. Anyway, their discounts were more significant than Carmax or FitzMall. When I went on a test drive the dealer and I had a good laugh because he was telling me how people come up in the dealership with their bargaining hats on thinking they outsmarting the salesman and getting a good deal when after all negotiations they still end up paying 3K more than if they just did everything online.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Member Posts: 7,160
    By 'new'... what I meant to indicate is that Toyota would lke all dealers to move to this model of LLBean sales. Pick your vehicle off our inventory and come in and drive it away.

    It's worked at the Mega stores like Laurel, Darcars, and especially at Longo so this is how they would like the future to be. The problem comes from how to present the vehicles to the public, demo's, walkarounds, etc. There is enough variation in the vehicles that someone has to be able to show the vehicles. It's not quite as simple as picking out 2 blue shirts and 3 white shirts from a catalogue.

    If everything were to be done over the internet, then the possibility to show off new models and new features would be lost, unless the sales person ( demo person? ) were paid by the demo not by the sale. But what about those who want to negotiate and discuss details, enjoy the process? Who deals with them? Or does Toyota just brush them off and tell them to go on over to Nissan 'they'll negotiate'.

    It's a complex question.. on another forum.
  • zorro16zorro16 Member Posts: 31
    guys,

    post no 1522 is a wrong information. check the pricing on japanesecarfans.com, they have the pricing with out the options.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Member Posts: 7,160
    There is nothing 'wrong' with the info in the referenced post. It's what one large dealership is willing to sell the vehicles for. There is an MSRP but that's just 'suggested'.

    The post clearly lists the options involved. There's nothing wrong about it.

    On the site you mention it's just a reprint off Toyota's website so yes they are the 'official' Manufacturers' Suggested Retail Prices - Base Prices but nothing more than that.
  • neno8403neno8403 Member Posts: 49
    Thank you kdhspyder for standing up for me. Obviously this kid zorro16 isn't the brightest light on the xmas tree. :mad:

    My post couldn't have been anymore clearer...it says PRICES FROM A DEALERSHIP IN THE WASHINGTON, DC AREA...I didn't say standard nationwide definite pricing for all Camry's. There is nothing "wrong" about those prices at all. I don't think Fitzgerald Auto Mall is trying to deceive people with bogus pricing. Are you ignorant or just a fool? You would have to be extremely dense to not know that the pricing on the 07s are going to fluctuate depending on the market in which you get your vehicle. A person may purchase a fully-loaded XLE V6 in Georgia for only 28-29K and another person may get the same vehicle in California for 3-4K more. It all depends.

    So let's get real now and instead of trying to nit-pick on peoples postings to find something wrong so you can so-call "correct it" just for the sake of posting, why don't you actually read and try your best to use the bit of brain you have. :(
  • fredvhfredvh Member Posts: 857
    Has anyone seen the prices on the 2007 Camry options yet?
  • gigahzgigahz Member Posts: 4
    Nav is $1200 at a dealer by me on a XLE.
  • larryt22larryt22 Member Posts: 125
    Looks like assembly must be going pretty well on the 2007 Camry at Georgetown.

    Wk 2/13 goal 826
    Wk 2/13 actual 829

    Wk 2/20 goal 2422
    Wk 2/20 actual 2564

    Wk 2/27 goal 3507

    I wonder how many have been assembled in Japan and how many are now on US soil.
  • zevizevi Member Posts: 12
    Hi,
    I got quoted a price from a dealer in the NE for a 2006 XLE V6 with smart key/ heated seats/ traction control.
    The dealer said to get this deal his manager wants a small deposit by tomorrow.

    He send me the specs and MSRP for the quoted vehicle is
    29,839 and he would sell for 28,000 including destination charge.
    Do you guys think I should go for it?
  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
  • zevizevi Member Posts: 12
    Hi,
    I got quoted a price from a dealer in the NE for a 2007 XLE V6 with smart key/ heated seats/ traction control.
    The dealer said to get this deal his manager wants a small deposit by tomorrow.

    He send me the specs and MSRP for the quoted vehicle is
    29,839 and he would sell for 28,000 including destination charge.
    Do you guys think I should go for it?
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