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2007 Toyota Camry



  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    And I'm willing to bet quite a few Toyota customers in the Gulf States Toyota/Southeast region buy their cars from dealers far, far away.
  • petlpetl Posts: 610
    Actually, Toyota outsells, Honda in Canada. If my recollection is accurate, except for one year, they have always outsold Honda. Both Toyota and Honda sell more cars than Ford and Chrysler (have done so for quite some time). "Better" I don't think so. In any case, sales shouldn't be an indication that a vehicle or Company is "better". You'll have prove early January in the business section in most major papers (the Star, Globe & Mail, etc.)
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Anyone care to chat about the upcoming Camry debut instead of corporate sales in the US and Canada!

    Thoughts? Concerns? Wish list compared to current version (reasonable, please)?

  • fredvhfredvh Posts: 854
    Yes, I would. What do we know about the new Camry(features, changes from 2006, etc.)?
    I would like to see VSC available in the LE and side air-bags standard. I hope they keep a fuel-efficient I4 with the 5-speed auto trans.
    As a side-note; I am still debating whether to get a new 2006 or wait until the 2007s are out. My major concern is that the price of the 2007 will be higher and then I will not be able to get a 2006 with the colors and options that I want.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    I think its pretty much a given that Toyota will make the side curtains and airbags standard on this Camry line; the marketplace segment is just too important to Toyota to ignore the safety line, especially with the IIHS's new 'Top Safety Pick' ratings to go after.

    I also dont think that you will see any decrease in fuel efficiency with the 4 cylinder. Allegedly, the 5 speed automatic is brand new, and I'll be its been designed specifically with Camry motivation in mind. Hopefully this unit will maximize the 2.4L's efficiency and power, with smart and subtle gear changes. My hope is that the Camrys unit is equivalent to the RAV4's 166 horse rating, I dont see why it should lose 8 horses to 158 as has been rumored.

    The price you pay for the first several months will definitely be higher on the 07s. However, I'd expect that MSRPs wont change very much, as is Toyota's trend with recent redesigns. MSRPs on similarly equipped models of redesigns are often close to their former counterparts, but Toyota adds a slew of high end options that drive fully loaded MSRPs up several grand. For example, the redesigns of the Sienna and Avalon.... with the Sienna LEs + an option package, and the typically equipped XLS Avalons, you're within $500 of the former model. But get a Sienna XLE Limited or an Avalon Limited and you're 4-5 grand (more on the Sienna) higher than the former top tier model. Same with the GS and IS Lexus redesigns.

  • lmacmillmacmil Posts: 1,758
    I believe that's where the new Camry will make its debut. Would be nice to get some pictures posted here.
  • i am really hoping that toyota will be one of the first car companies to make VSC and side curtain airbags standard on all of their cars, cuz that would win me over right there.
  • jrock65jrock65 Posts: 1,371
    No way a car like the Yaris is gonna get standard VSC any time soon.

    In this midsize segment, the Sonata is the first car to offer standard stability control. The Accord was the first car to offer standard curtains.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    The new Camry debuting in 10 days will have all the A/B standard and VSC will be the first option on every vehicle.. if the customer wants it. Lot's dont want it.. Go figure.

    You can get an '06 Camry LE + VS + GY now.

    The Toyota Mgt already stated that VCS + Trac will be standard soon. Hey it's on the $14K Scion xB standard.
  • i really hate how some dealerships feel like they dont have to carry the VSC option. Like some in the midwest, I asked why they didnt put VSC on their cars as an option and they said most people dont need it.

    yeah right I have seen so many cars not being able to go up a small hill with out trac control

    I thought it was strange why the xB had VSC, maybe because it probably needs it since it is like a box
  • lmacmillmacmil Posts: 1,758
    "i really hate how some dealerships feel like they dont have to carry the VSC option."

    The option combinations are controlled at the region level, not the dealer. For example, in the Great Lakes region which includes Indiana, Illinois, & Wisconsin, only certain option combinations are available. If you go to another region, there may be different option combinations available that are not available in the Great Lakes region. The dealer may decide to stock only certain option combinations and is under no obligation (I don't believe) to make them all available.
  • fredvhfredvh Posts: 854
    I would REALLY appreciate it if someone could post the new Camry pictures. I am still debating whether to get a new 2006 or wait to see the new 2007. I really want to see a 2007 first before I make the commitment. Toyota is making it hard to resist because thet have 0% financing right now. Of course they will probably keep it into January and February too. Stock selection will be dwindling though. I suppose I can wait until after the Detroit Auto Show provided we can get some good pictures and specific details on it.
    Has anyone heard how long the 2006 will be in production yet?
  • I hope you're correct on the airbag issue. I believe the recently released 2006 RAV4 doesn't have them as standard.
    Is that because they are in a different market being mid-size SUVs?

  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    I believe that production on the 2006 has stopped. The '07 will be intro'd next week in Detroit and I think it will debut here ~ March 1. Whatever '06's are in inventory now will be it. We are running low at our store.

    The 'stolen' pics of the new Camry have been posted here already back a few pages. It shows an SE model. The official pics will be available on Jan 6 on after the launch annoucement in Detroit.
  • larryt22larryt22 Posts: 125
    According to the Georgetown website, production has consistently remained in the 7,000+ range for Camrys produced each week through the week 0f 12/24. From these numbers, it would indicate that production of the 2006 has not ended and production of the 2007 started. You will always see a temporary reduction in output while the plant is converted and this has not happened yet :(
  • larryt22larryt22 Posts: 125
    Also, according to the Georgetown website, tours remain open to the public until March 1. It is very unusual for the plant to conduct tours during a model changeover, so unless something is awry with the website, are we in for a delay that we were not expecting?
  • khbushkhbush Posts: 19
    We were at the plant for a tour in sept and the tour consisted of a movie. The plant was closed for the model change.
  • agnostoagnosto Posts: 205
    I can tell from personal experience the Toyo Guard/protection is one of the best application a vehicle MUST have. I used to have an 93 Camry with that protection and the color after 10 years was better than a new vehicle. I just purchased an 06 Sienna Limited and I told the dealer that Toyo Guard is a MUST have or no deal is done and he got me one with ToyoGuard, and yes I do live in NC.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    kdhspyder- have you any information on power/output of the 4 cylinder, along with transmission combinations and prelim EPA ratings?

    Its pretty set in stone, it seems, that the V6 will be the 268 horse 3.5L hooked to either a 5 or 6 sp auto... but there's alot of questions about the 4, at least for me.

    Also, has the base model really gained 175lbs?

  • I heard somewhere that the new 07 camry was gonna have a 157hp 4 cylinder as the base engine?

    how can you have an engine that is so small?

    the accord and altima already have a larger than 160hp 4 cylinder

    please tell me that this car will not have such small hp in the 4 cylinder area
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697

    Maybe that isn't even the right number, but supposed it is? So what? It's a Camry.
    Why are you so worried about having a trivial amount less horsepower than a 4 cylinder Accord when you haven't driven the car to see how it drives?
    This is not a crisis. There is a V6 model available so they should make the 4 cylinder model the economy choice.
    They also have the hybrid model with power between the V6 and base engine, so there is no reason to make the base model beat an Altima on a drag strip.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Also note that the Altima's 175 horsepower engine was rated under the *OLD* SAE testing procedure and has NOT been re-rated under the new approved 08/04 methodology. I would expect that output would decrease, given the trend of the other Japanese makes after re-rating.

    Honda's 166 horse 2.4L 4 IS SAE approved, however, and an increase over former years due to revisions for the 2006 refresh.

    We will see where the Camry's engine comes in, though at 154 horses for 2006, it moves the vehicle just fine.

  • jrock65jrock65 Posts: 1,371
    I'd give up 10 horses for a 1 mpg increase. Not sure that there is such a correlation though.
  • I wouldn't be surprised to see that happen but that'd be great seeing how high gas prices are right now. I'm in total agreement here with the other posters; people who buy the 4 cylinder Camry care more about fuel economy than they do about performance. Those who want faster acceleration can always opt for the V6 or the hybrid.
  • 210delray210delray Posts: 4,722
    On our just-completed cross-country trip with our 2004 Camry 4-cylinder with 3 adults, a full trunk, and cargo in the left rear seat and floor, I was quite satisfied with the advertised 157 hp.

    The car cruises fine at 75 mph on the interstates (legal in many western states) and climbed the Monarch Pass (11,312 ft.) on US 50 in CO with no problems. It struck me that there are few freeways left with too-short acceleration lanes, so getting a good running start is no problem in merging into high-speed traffic.

    Our overall trip mpg was 30.5, including slow going in national parks and the many small towns we toured (slow because we were taking in the sights, not because of traffic).
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    There is nothing even on the unofficial level yet that we peons get to know. The GM prolly knows or could get the info but these details are not of too much interest to him.

    conjecture only. It's the same 2.4L as in the '02-'06 model and as in the new RAV so after the SAE adjustment I wouldnt be surprised if it was 157-165 HP same as the present one but with a tweak or two.

    FE? Again conjecture, 1 mpg better up to 35 Hwy?

    Everything I've read seems to indicate a 5 spd Auto linked to the 4c - which would be nice.

    Regarding the Altima I was scouting the competition at the local Nissan lot and was shocked to see the 29 mpg Hwy on their 4c. That must be a tough sell these days, horsepower or not.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    Agreed, delray.

    Since 1990 I've had four 4c Camry's until the Prius last month and I never felt they lack anything in cruising power on the Interstates. Even the dragstrip known as I95 from NY to Richmond. 70-85 mph was never a problem in any condition.

    The new 2.4L that you have is wonderful. It's worlds ahead of the engines in my other Camry's.
  • petlpetl Posts: 610
    I agree with both of you. The Camry's current 4cyl. is more than adequate. The 2007 will will likely have the same 2.4L 166HP that the new RAV has. Let's not forget torque in the equation. Some vehicles have higher HP. However, you have to rev them pretty high before the effect can be felt. No thanks.
  • Agreed 100% about the current Altima's 2.5L MPG.

    Especially considering that the 3.5L gets 30 MPG on the highway opposed to the 29 the 2.5 gets.

    I'm sure that with its redesign on the way Nissan will give the 2.5 or whatever engine it gets a 6spd manual and optional 5spd. Automatic.
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    Why would you be sure of that and not assuming and guessing?
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