2007 Toyota Camry

winnipeger

i would say a hybrid is not a fully loaded camry .. just my opinion thou..

babyrocket

I know the NAV system is combined with the 4 CD changer - but where do you insert the CDs? Does the screen flip out?

Thanks -

tinatina

I am not surprised that prices would fall, but I did not expect it a day or so after release. In my area, they were demanding MSRP and above for the new RAV-4. Each time I passed the dealership, they are just piled on the lots - two dealers having 17 and 24 units on hand. The competition is too fierce in the mid-size car segment at this time. I would have expected that price after a month or so.

alpha01

Well, pricing is still on the highish end, if places like Fitzmall are commanding $700 OVER invoice. Toyota also will not be resorting to the level of discounts that Hyundai has on the Sonata right now, less than a year after its debut...

Your observation on the RAV is pretty anecdotal, and may or may not indicate that people werent willing to pay the prices that dealers were asking- the RAVs numbers indicate the vehicle is selling quite well.

~alpha

ix1is1

in the in-dash cd changer. it's right above the screen

austinman7

A question for our Host:

I was looking for this post, entered within the last week:

I Test Drove a 2007 Camry XLE I4 Today!!! Pics Included! (neno8403)

Can't find it. On my computer, I also can't find post # 1603 -- I go from 1602 to 1604. Is 1603 the missing post?
Is it just missing on my computer? Can you retrieve it?

Thanks.

tinatina

You are right, its still too high a price to pay. But its a significant drop from MSRP (or above) to $700, or $1,000 above invoice, especially since the car has only been out less than a week. Its just a very competitive market right now in the mid-size car segment.

As far as the Rav-4, I don't know what's happening, but I've checked at least five dealers, and they each have between 10 to 24 units in stock. I don't recall seeing that many with the previous model. But in N. California, the SUV market is not as strong as it was a year or so ago.

joecarnut

Its missing for me too.

dampfnudel

Yes, all new Camrys include an MP3 capable CD player.

It also looks like the player has ID3 tag support. You can probably use the display to navigate your MP3 folders.

te1963

I drove by Butler Toyota in Indianapolis today and the 07 Camrys have arrived. 6 were delivered yesterday and 4 were left this afternoon. There was a Titanium Silver 4 cyl LE, 2 Titanium Silver 4 cyl XLE's and a Barcelona Red XLE V-6. I really wanted to look at a V-6, but someone was already looking at it. I looked at the XLE's but the light color wood doesn't look right with gray interior. I managed a peek into the Barcelona Red and it looks better with the tan interior, but IMHO a darker wood tone would look better overall. I drove the LE for about 20 minutes through the suburban streets and found it be alot peppier than previous Camrys I have driven. Now comes the hard part; which will I buy next month? 2006 Honda Accord EX-L or 2007 Toyota Camry SE?

jaxs1

Probably got removed because they were gigantic. You need to resize your pics before posting. If you don't know how, you can just put them up on one of the free picture hosting sites (like PhotoBucket.com and they will be resized for you automatically.

alpha01

You're the second or third poster here who's test driven a four cylinder and commented that it felt fairly strong.

Given the concerns regarding the vehicle increasing in weight and gaining only 4 horses, thats a good sign. I'm interested to see what kind of numbers the bread and butter 4 cylinder 5A will post.

The only instrumented test so far is Car and Driver's test of the 4 cylinder 5M, and that example was 3 tenths slower to 60 than the '03 model they tested, but it posted better passing figures...

The Accord EX-L will certainly be cheaper than the Camry, though the Camry has a few more desirable, at least to me, such as available VSC and standard fog lights.

In the Philadelphia area, on Buyatoyota.com, the Camry SE is showing with an options package that includes the 440 watt JBL audio/Bluetooth, rear spoiler, VSC, power moonroof and the standard 17 inch alloys. $25,160 is the MSRP.

~alpha

lnt

I saw a magnetic gray(XLE V6) being brought into the showroom today when I was having my oil changed on my Avalon. It was beautiful! I think it was prettier than the phantom gray on the avalon. It seemed to be more sparkly! Very nice car. The nav system was awesome! Almost made me want to trade my Avalon in on it - until I got into the back seat. I like the room in the Avalon. Camry looks better, though.

210delray

I stopped by the local dealer today, and lo and behold, they had just gotten in two silver Camry XLE V6s yesterday.

I was able to take my time looking at them, but not driving them (they were totally unprepped -- even the rear view mirrors hadn't been installed).

Well, I can report the following minuses compared to the 2002-06 models:

1. Temporary spare tire (you all know that)
2. Smaller trunk, but not unreasonably so (you knew that too)
3. Exposed gooseneck trunk hinges
4. Less padding (oops, I mean "soft touch") on the instrument panel -- now the strip between the upper IP and the glove compartment is hard plastic
5. Say it ain't so -- the power passenger seat is only a 4-way (still has the old switch, but no longer adjusts seat cushion height)
6. The two-level console storage compartment is history -- now you get just one compartment with a small removable half tray to serve as the upper compartment.
7. Maybe the nonfolding seats should be counted as a negative, BUT each outboard seat has a 4-position manual recline adjuster.
8. I still think the front end looks weird.
9. Price -- over $30,000 for both (ouch!). Both had optional VSC, smart key, and nav. And Toyota has the nerve to charge $199 for floor and trunk mats as an option, even on the top of the line model.

Pluses (excluding the obvious engine power and mpg increases):
1. Those reclining rear seats
2. Two gas struts instead of one to hold up the hood

mary99

I was talking about the hybrid Accord.

alpha01

Your list of pluses and minuses seems arbitrary, so I will ask why the following aren't pluses over the previous model (regarding the XLE V6 you looked at)?

1. Smart Key
2. Bluetooth Wireless Technology
3. MP3/WMA capability
4. Telescopic Steering Wheel
5. Dual Zone Auto Climate Control (vs. Single Zone)
6. 440 Max Watt JBL
7. Direct Tire Pressure Monitor system

~alpha

lime679

Today I saw a Magnetic Grey with Ash interior 2007 Camry LE with Dark Wood Trim. Of course I'm sure it was installed at port because the LE does not come standard with wood grain trim. I have heard many people complaining about the ash interior with the yellow wood trim. I just wanted to let you all know that there is a darker wood available.

njerald

Probably like the car on EBAY.

From Japan with aftermarket wood on it.

k_oss_mrld

I work at a Toyota/Mazda dealership in Maryland and we just got our 07 Camrys on Monday morning (the first XLE V6 sold later that day), and I've been lusting over the redesign since then. I've always loved the new Avalon but thought it was too big, so this new Camry blew my mind when I saw it for the first time. I finally got the chance to drive one, a bread and butter LE 4cyl, and here's my impression. The sheetmetal is absolutely beautiful, but this engine/transmission combo just about put me asleep. It's got no guts at all, and I was really disappointed that the I4 didn't get the manumatic shifter that the V6 got. Maybe it's because I took a fresh car with only 3 miles on it, but I doubt it. And, unfortunately, I've been searching the Dealer Daily site and it doesn't look like there are any CE or LE manuals (Model 2513 & 2531) in our region (Central Atlantic Toyota). Can you guys fill me in on which regions the 5speed manuals are available in, because I'd love for one of these to be my (technically) first car.

tidewater

You have to add to those pluses:

Dramatically improved interior styling
Improved exterior styling
Greater availablity of Navi.
Larger wheels

klunkman

Kudos on those pluses. Big ones. And if I hear one more person cry about only a 4-way power passenger seat, I'm going to scream. It might be just me, but I have a hard time understanding why the passenger needs 8 ways to be positioned, when all they are doing is sitting there.

I'd also add to the pluses:

1. Mucho more passenger space, owing to the extended wheelbase. I had a hard time fitting in the previous model.

2. Cool little storage nooks on either side of the center stack.

3. Bluetooth again. You can't say enough about how much safer it is to use a cellphone when you have it.

210delray

Well, the pluses you list are highly touted, so most people know about them already. I'm just listing the little downgrades that aren't so prominently noted.

Besides, I guess I don't really give a hoot about smart key, Bluetooth, MP3, and super powerful stereos. Remote keyless is fine for me.

I try not to use my cellphone while driving (almost always pull off the road). I guess I'm too old school to get excited about the whole MP3/iPod thing, and the prior stereo/CD player/changer was good enough for me.

I agree that telescopic wheel is a plus, as is direct tire pressure monitoring (although with respect to the latter, I'm very obsessive about checking tire pressure with a plain old gauge). Dual-zone climate is a plus; for me it would end disagreements with my wife and son over temp settings (I like it cooler, natch). Of course, dual-zone is not available in the CE, LE, or SE.

Another minus I forgot to mention: hard plastic inserts on the backs of the front seats. A couple of other pluses: larger Homelink buttons, separate switches (with more legible font) for the sunroof tilt and slide functions, and dome light control switch on the windshield header instead of the middle of the roof.

mary99

Has anyone reading here bought from Fitzmall.com or know anyone who has, or a similar site? I wonder how long it takes to get your vehicle. Especially if you're particular about color and options. :confuse:

210delray

And if I hear one more person cry about only a 4-way power passenger seat, I'm going to scream. It might be just me, but I have a hard time understanding why the passenger needs 8 ways to be positioned, when all they are doing is sitting there.

Easy to say if you don't have lower back pain, but it's very important for my wife, who does. That was the only reason we got the XLE in '05.

Mucho more passenger space, owing to the extended wheelbase. I had a hard time fitting in the previous model.

Actually according to interior volume measurements, the '07 Camry has fractionally less interior room than the outgoing model. But the new model does have a nearly flat rear floor (exhaust tunnel is shallower).

Cool little storage nooks on either side of the center stack.

My memory may be faulty, but I saw only one such nook, on the passenger side only, and it's pretty tiny.

Tidewater mentioned larger wheels on the new model, but the XLE already had 16-inch wheels before. It's the CE and LE models that get 16-inchers for the first time.

As far as interior styling, I'd say the old and the new model are about equal, and you already know I don't like the front end styling. The side view is very similar, IMO; only the rear end is improved. But of course, styling is totally subjective, so we can argue all day about it. (A much-maligned exception is the Aztek.)

Kirstie_H

Sorry folks, but I had to remove that post because the photos were so large that they distorted the page and made the discussion unreadable.

I have contacted the member and asked that he/she re-post the text and perhaps some downsized photos!

If you have photos to share, the best way to handle them is to put them in your carspace album (www.carspace.com) and then post a link here to your carspace. There's no distortion issue there!

austinman7

Dear HOST:

Thanks for the explanation. I thought maybe a gremlin in my computer had eaten it for lunch.

And, now that the real thing is here, the photos aren't as necessary. My sales rep called yesterday to tell me they are now receiving '07 Camrys. I'm going to try to stop by after work today and check them out.

klunkman

Easy to say if you don't have lower back pain, but it's very important for my wife, who does. That was the only reason we got the XLE in '05.

OK, but I still don't see it as a major minus for most people.

Actually according to interior volume measurements, the '07 Camry has fractionally less interior room than the outgoing model. But the new model does have a nearly flat rear floor (exhaust tunnel is shallower).

Though I didn't drive it, I sat in a new XLE at my local dealer, and empirically speaking, the driver's area is significantly roomier than the previous model.

My memory may be faulty, but I saw only one such nook, on the passenger side only, and it's pretty tiny.

There's one on each side, perfect for my parking lot swipe card.

mdchachi

The JBL audio upgrade includes voice-activated Bluetooth. You say "Dial Momma" and it dials Momma.

pwgilbert

I got an '05 Honda Pilot last year and gave my son my Cad STS and my grandson my Honda CRV. Mistake--my lady friends Mother is an invalid and the Pilot is so high. My first thought was an Avalon, but the styling is so blah? Then, I heard about the Hyundai Azera. And had pretty much decided on one once the prices came down. Which they have a little. Then Toyota comes out with the '07 Camry. I wonder if the Hyundai "threat" has anything to do with it, but in any case am now happy that I will have another arguement for a better price from both Toyota and Hyundai. Win Win for me. Bluegil

zevi

So I'm pricing a camry. How does this deal look
XLE V6 , heated seats, smart key, remote start, VSC for 27,500 out the door?
Should I take it or wait.
Its in the NY Tri-state area.

Thanks

Sarah

kdhspyder

I have seen all the previews and pics here and on Toyota's website and my first reaction was...Huh???

It appears a lot smaller than the last Gen. I first saw it from the back and I didnt recognize what I was seeing. I have to say that I am very very impressed and love the look as I thought I would but it looks very 'midsized' even to the point of bing 'compact'. Anyone else sense this?

Our first one is a V6 SE base model @26359 with the JBL/BT upgrade but no sunroof.

As expected the V6 is a blast to drive and the handling to a non-professional driver is very very tight and stable in turns ( sharp decending cloverleaf entry @ 60 mph) with little or no body roll.

Two others said that the interior seems smaller but I dont feel it. The side windows are 1" shorter top to bottom and the seats are somewhat lower than the Gen5's, which were raised almost 3" over the Gen 4's ( I think they split the difference in the Gen6's ).

It seemed to me that there was a humongous travel front to back in the driver's seat ( all the way back I couldnt reach the pedals in normal seating position I'm 5'10" ).

The tilt/telescope SW seems to have a wide range of adjustment.

'Easter egg' no one has mentioned AFAIK. The AUX jack is inside the center-front console under the dash but the MP3 cubby is outside on the passenger's side. There is a passthrough for the wiring into the AUX jack.

And it's a Camry in ride, feel and quietness. 'Nuff said.

ix1is1

no way could that be an OTD price. are you sure it's not before tax and title. if you price those options on kbb, it's 26664 invoice

tidewater

Your price of $27,500 sounds very favorable - but it depends on what you mean by 'out the door'. The price sounds almost too good to be true.

Here is a highly similar quote by Fitzmall (wheel locks, but no remote start).

Body: 4DR V6 XLE
Color: Magnetic Gray
Interior: Ash Gray Leather
Order#: 7U11G766*O
Model#: 2554
VIN#:

Delivered Value Price: $28,095 (Price to customer)
Factory Invoice: $27,126
MSRP: $30,112
Freight, MD. Inspection Included.
Tax, Tags, Title, Optional Dealer Processing Charge $99 Excluded

Features
- DK
FACTORY INSTALLED OPTIONS
DK - OWNERS PORTFOLIO
FE - 50 STATE EMISSION REQUIREMENT
HD - HEATED DRIVER/PASS FRT SEATS
SK - SMART KEY SYSTEM
VS - VEH STABILIY/TRACTION CONTROL
WL - WHEEL LOCKS
Z1 - PREFERRED ACCESSORY PACKAGE

joecarnut

Good info kdhspyder.

I do think it looks as big as a Gen 5, but in a different way.
It does have a feel like you are sitting lower in it. I especially noticed that when trying the reclining seats on an XLE model.
I think its a beautiful car and the front is actually quite nice IMHO. It may turn out to be a love/hate thing for the Camry. We'll see.
The dash and doors are RAV4ish in styling. But overall interior looks to be better quality than Gen 5. While Gen 5 had a subdued look, its interior looked loose IMHO.

The trunk interior looked cheaply made to me. And the cover for the spare was almost like cardboard. I don't remember Gen 5's though so maybe the same?
The engine compartment on the 4 cyl was nicely laid out and it looked like you could access most of the engine easily.

One of the pluses that people didn't mention (I think) is the 4 wheel disc brakes.

All in all, I find this a beautiful car that looks better in person than in pictures.
I've seen many colors and I'm happy to say that Toyota has improved these too.

I will wait till they get the bugs out before buying and also waiting to see what the 07 CR-V will be like, but it will be a tough wait.

Ken

mackabee

Sat in both a 4 cylinder LE and a V6 xle. Actually drove the V6 XLE. The car is about an inch shorter which I mentioned on one of my earlier posts. It is smaller compared to the current one as far as the interior is concerned. The exterior also seemed smaller to me. I guess the 2 inch wheelbase increase is only there to help with the reclining back seat. Fit and finish is typical Toyota although the quality of the materials in the XLE is not as good as on the 06 IMHO. The 06 has the double stitched leather seats and the 07 is only single stitched and does not look as durable. The seats are comfortable and have plenty of lateral support. The light wood looked ok on the Titanium silver we have but I'm sure it will look a lot better with the bisque interior. The 6 speed transmission is smooth as butter. The shifts were barely noticeable and the sequential mode was fun to play with. I expected the car to be quicker than it was. I didn't get that head snapping feel as I did with the Avalon. Could have been the way the transmission is geared. Overall I liked the car but the front nose will have to grow on me. It's a little to Mazda 3 for my taste. As someone above noted, the interior is sort of RAV4ish with the door handles, power locks and window controls, and the layout of the dash. We'll sell a half million of these.
:shades:
Mackabee

tinatina

I finally saw the new camry. I saw four Camrys in a row, three whites and one silver. However, I did not see the front end. They had them near the 2006s. The 2006 appeared wider, but it could be just due to the height. Although the 2006 appeared bigger, the 2007 is by far sleeker. The back, however, does look like a Mazda, particularly the rear tailights/trunk lid, as does the front grill, which also resembles an early 90s Grand Am. I hope the interior has improved on the LE -4 compared to the previous version which looked cheap, but not as cheap as the new Sonata.

I will wait a bit to see if any bugs appear and discounts to materialize. I don't see any discounts in my area anytime soon. However, this may push me to the Avalons since those are being discounted pretty good. The only thing about the Avalon is the white dot it received several months ago in CR. I'm not sure if the latest CR is better.

alpha01

Sat in- but did not have the opportunity to drive- an LE 4 cylinder today at Andrew in Milwaukee. The quality of the cloth that is used is dramatically better than the '05-'06, and I feel its better than the '02-'04 as well. Reminds me of the cloth that was used on the 92-95 LEs....

The new interior is much more stylish, while still being ergonomic.

Mack, I'm not sure how you can state the vehicle is shorter, when the dimensions show it isnt. Inside, the vehicle is still VERY roomy, and I love the "dash stash" pockets on either side of the HVAC console.

MSRP on the vehicle I sat in: $21,249. Note, this is $130 LESS than the MSRP on the 2002 Camry that my parents purchased in December 2001. That Camry is identically equipped, except, of course, that it lacks a few very notable features: Side Airbags and Curtains, 4 wheel disc brakes, a 5 speed auto, Optitron instrumentation, telescopic steering wheel, steering wheel audio controls, and power lumbar adjustment for the driver.

Thats an impressive value proposition increase, IMO.

~alpha

kdhspyder

You saw the article about Bodine Aluminum, I'm sure. Therein lies the flexibility to add significant important features and actually lower the price.

zevi

besides the tire recycling fee and temp plate and state inspection the car is 27,500.
I am paying the taxes when I register it myself.

babyrocket

I still don't see it. Here is a picture of the NAV system/stereo in the Camry Hybrid - where are the CDs inserted?

Camry Hybrid NAV system

Thanks -

ix1is1

hmm...you're right. i guess i saw the other radio, i can't it either. maybe it's in the center. did you notice in that pic you linked to says 26 mpg avg but the best mpg was 16

kdhspyder

If it's like the other Toyota's it's behind the navi screen. One of the buttons must slide the screen down and forward. See the 'Close-eject' toggle on the upper left side. It looks like that closes the screen.

austinman7

Took a drive in an LE V6 yesterday after work. Titanium, with JBL and moonroof added.

Overall -- very smooth and quiet. 70 mph = 2100 rpms. Good, but not overwhelming, power from the V6, but I was being moderate in my driving. Did not notice any transmission problem as referenced by the USA Today review.

I like the exterior styling much better than the '06, even though it seems a little pudgy to me. I think the front end adds to that impression.

The front seat interior design is much more organic -- it has a flow to it, unlike the '06, which to me just kind of sits there. The longer seat cushions don't seem longer by much to me.

Here's a relatively minor point, but...if you're comparing EPA interior volume figures of different cars, Camry's approximately 101 can be misleading, I believe. Many cars list moonroof/sans moonroof figures, and I assume the Camry's 101 is sans moonroof. There can be a significant difference -- Accord, for example, is about 102 sans moonroof, 97 with. You wouldn't want to compare a 97 volume moonroof Accord with a (apparently claimed) 101 moonroof Camry -- apples and oranges.

Of course, if you're not too tall, no big deal, since the missing volume is above your head. But it makes a difference to me (6 feet tall) in headroom. The Camry I drove yesterday had just enough headroom for me in front, but I would get the car without the moonroof because I like more headroom.

I was disappointed I couldn't get a Camry brochure yet. Other than that, it was a good first experience with the car. The fit and finish make it feel like a more expensive car.

mackabee

Shorter as in height not lenght.
Mack

petomlin

Mackabee -
You mentioned:"I expected the car to be quicker than it was. I didn't get that head snapping feel as I did with the Avalon."

Is the car sluggish/slow? How disappointing. How can a 268 hp V6 not be quick/fast/responsive? :confuse:

I'm interested, or was interested, in the SE V6 version, but, if the 268hp engine doesn't compete with the TL, I suppose the the TL would be the winner.

tinatina

Ok, a follow up to my previous post, this AM I had a chance to see the vehicle. My local dealer had 5 on one of their lots (4 CEs and 1 XLE). They probably had more inside and in two of their other lots. They are a high volume dealership. I looked at the 4 CEs, which had a price of $20,099. They all had the J-Vin, so they were not Kentucky built. The XLE was sold.

Overall, I was impressed, especially with the front end (I did not like the photos of it when I saw it). The interior looked ok, a big improvement over the 2006 and resembles a bit of the Accord. I liked the auto-shifter.

However, the cloth seats looked cheap when compared to my 04 Accord.

neno8403

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I am reposting this as it was deleted the other because the pics were too big. I hope that this little bit of info is informative.

Ok so I had to take my 2002 Camry LE to the dealership (Fitzgerald Auto Mall/Lakeforest Toyota in Gaithersburg, Maryland) to get regular service maintanence. I found out once I got there that they had moved their service center to another facility up the road. As I was preparing to leave what should I see??? Two brand new 2007 Camry's came flying down the lane and pulled damn near right beside me. Everyone inside the FitzMall showroom began clapping when the Camry's pulled up. One Camry was Titanium Silver and the other was a Cashmiere Beige color. I immediately left my car and walked over to the new Camry's. I was in shock and awe.

The sales people at Fitzgerald are so nice and they didnt mind when I hoped in the silver Camry to see and feel all its glory. The interior was beautiful (albeit the wood was ugly in color as most seem to agree). The car is really roomy and basically its a Lexus now. I really wouldn't be able to tell the difference if I didn't know better.
I asked could I take it on a test drive and they were more than happy to accomodate my wishes. If you live in the Maryland/Washington,DC area I would highly recommend Fitzgerald Auto Mall. They are a thousand times better than the typical Toyota dealerships.

Here are some observations about the car:

The halogen projector headlights seems a bit more yellowish than I would tolerate so if you buy this car you might wanna swap em out for some SilverStars or whatever is compatiable.

The auto-headlight feature is nice but sensative. As I drove under several overpasses the lights sensed the darkness almost immediate and turned on the full nighttime lights but I didnt mind. The dash and speedometer lights stay illuminate constantly and its a beautiful purplish-white color and the lights get even brighter when you turn on the low-beams.

The taillights are beautiful. In addition to the red-colored glass on the brake lights there is a 2nd clear plastic covering on top of that that you can't really see on any of the online photos. This covering is what makes the headlights look "bubbly" and it looks really nice.

The rear high-mount center stop light IS LED! And it looks so classy because the lights appear white (very similiar to the color of the new Lexus RX trucks) but when you step on the brakes the lights illuminate red in five seperate quadrants

The speedometer panel and info display is NICE! I can't describe what it looks like so you'll have to see it for yourself.

This is really cool...when I turned the car on the center display came on and scrolling text came across the screen that said "WELCOME TO CAMRY".

Both rear seats have a manual reclining feature.
As everyone pretty much expected, when we pulled back the trunk mat we found a crappy [non-permissible content removed] temp spare/donut...everyone was in an uproar about that.
Neither cars had the navigation system but the standard system is wonderful enough and it did indeed has a botton marked "Satellite".

The interior is nicely laid out and very comfortable. The car really is the same size as the Gen 5 in outward dimension. The car looks very classy on the outside and commands respect and says "luxury".

The light-colored wood trim is kinda nasty in the grey interior silver Camry but inside the beige Camry it flowed together sort of well.

I was dead set on getting a V6 but after test driving that Camry XLE I4 on the highway, when I hit that gas we were gone!

The ride was smooth (of course), very quiet, and the handling seemed tighter than my Gen 5.

The car I test drove was going from a little more than $24,000.

**I apologize for the pics because they really don't show what everyone hasn't already seem but I thought I'd post em anyway. There were no LE's so I couldn't get pics of that interior. Hope you find this little bit of info informative**

njerald

Well kind of:

XLE 2.4L 4 cyl.

Shows Smartkey as an option - WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!
Doesn't show VSC/TC as an option - WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!

Use toyota.com for MSRP and available options.
kbb.com for invoice pricing.

njerald

FACTS:

The '07 is lower and wider with a longer wheelbase (2.2") and less overhang resulting in an unchanged length.

Weight has gone up by about 100 pounds.

The '07 has more total legroom, is wider inside but has less headroom (front and back).

The interior volume is slightly smaller (0.4 ft3) than the '06.

The '07 trunk is 10-13% smaller depending on the model.

Turning circle is smaller by (0.6') and highway mileage is down by 1 mpg than the '06.

Result s/b a better riding, slightly better handling, better performing with the V-6 or slightly slower with the I-4 vehicle.

Salesman told me it was bigger inside with the same size trunk. BS!!!!!!

alpha01

Note that MPG is down by 1 on the 4cylinder 5A. It's up by one on the 4 cylinder 5M, and up a good deal on the V6s (2-3 MPG)

~alpha