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Yeah, what was the big difference? I have a 2004 Accord LX sedan automatic. Granted, its engine is a bit noiser thant the 2004 Camry LE 4 I tested, but the Accord had better handling, better acceleration, and a 5 speed automatic. I think the engine/tranny performance is better than the previous generation Camry. Honda has come a long way on tranny performance. I base this on fifteen years of driving Hondas, and know that the previous trannys not only had problems, they shifted at times poorly. Both are very good vehicles though, its just a matter of preference.
My local dealership has a ton of 2007 Camrys in stock now. All were sourced from Japan. They have had the same units in stock for about a week now. Another dealership is claiming "discounts" on the 2007s, but I don't know how much.
I my zip 23435, I only get Option Combinations A & B
A. VSC
B. VSC, Heated & Leather seats.
"Any color you choose as long as it's Silver"
Perhaps that may change going forward.
I wonder if factory ordering is possible and how much of a hassle it would be.
I'm not sure it does that, especially from the front. The new grill is busy and distracting. From the side and back I'd say the new body is a successful improvement, but not a standout in styling against the competition.
Toyota knows it currently sells on its bulletproof reliability reputation. But there is a significant slice of the market that buy on style and emotional excitement. I'm not sure the Camry advances the ball on visual excitement. It certainly isn't a Chrysler 300 or Nissan Altima.
NAV shows on the SE and XLE V-6.
I would buy out of the area. Go North or South.
In the northwest, VSC isn't available separately from a package that includes a moon roof . . . on any model. If I decide to buy, it will be via special order. I'm unwilling to give up the headroom.
This radiator deal was not a problem with the Camry, either 06 or 07. The front of the 07 is just a little over the top for me. I think I prefer the 06.
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
thanks alpha for the info on the 4 cycliner, with gas probably heading to the north side of 3 bucks to stay this summer the 4 seems the way to go
Trucker- I'm an advocate of both Camry engines, but in combined overall driving, the V6 is claimed to hit only TWO (2) MPG fewer than the 4 cylinder... meaning.. it would be comparable in fuel consumption to the 95 Camry that you have/had.
~alpha
The voice activated NAV on the Camry appears to be a real bargain priced at $1,000 to $1,200 option. I've been using a Garmin Street Pilot III for years, and getting tired of the large cables in the power outlet, and having to move unit off and on the dash. I paid $1,000 for my Street Pilot III in 2003, and newer comparable Garmin models would be at about a similar price. (Admittedly, the ability of change vechicles with portable NAV is a real plus, and I need to buy a new portable NAV at some point anyway for use in my 2003 Highlander).
Perhaps I will inquire what the deal would be for special order and dealership, and if reasonably priced special order the NAV. But , I would like to get pricing for th 2007 Camry similar to that from Fitzmall.com as I am located in Virginia.
xle with nav msrp $31039
$28500 and the wonderful $199 doc fee
any comments???
The new Camry is a great looking car but it is not for everybody. However, the reliability, quietness, luxury and high quality are traits that move it to the front of my new car list!
Body: 4DR V6 XLE
Color: Titanium Metal
Interior: Ash
Stock#: T000430
Model#: 2554
VIN#: JTNBK46K273000430
Delivered Internet Price: $30,201 - This is the price you pay
Factory Invoice: $27,945
MSRP: $31,039
Freight, PA. Inspection Included.
Tax, Tags, Title, Documentary Fee $55 Excluded
Features
- CF
FACTORY INSTALLED OPTIONS
CF - CARPETED FLOOR MATS
DK - PREFERRED OWNERS PORTFOLIO
FE - 50 STATE EMISSIONS
HD - HEATED SEATS
NV - NAVIGATION SYSTEM
SK - SMART KEY SYSTEM
VS - VEHICLE STABILITY CONTROL
I think the grill is a love/hate thing(I love it), but these vehicles should sell really well.
They appear like a much more expensive car than they are.
I was looking at all the other models last W/E that were out next to the new Camry. Everyone had a smooth flat top surface flowing down to a smooth rearquarter.
8 dealers and thru Costco in Seattle area.
Got the 1st price back: $27,145 MSRP, $25,143 + tax and license, factory order. Same as Fitzmall pricing.
That dealer was not a Costco dealer but he said Costco pricing normally would be 3.5% over invoice, which would be more than his quote.
We'll see.............
Toyota claims this is a safety feature. However, Acura and others let you do it.
I believe that current pricing by Fitzmall of approximately $600 to $700 over invoice is going be a reasonably consistent with what an informed buyer will be able to get the car for. Carsdirect (where I've bought my last two Toyotas) does not offer the 2007 Camy yet, and they say they have no idea when they will start selling it. Carsdirect is currently doing the 2006 Camrys (all models and options combinations) for $1,000 below invoice as they have been all year. Therefore, $600 over invoice for a 2007 comparably equipped Camry sounds like a reasonable indicator to me, given 2007 new attributes and generation.
However, only time and the market will tell.
pictures and also here pictures and description
ps. If you add everything up for invoice pricing Fitz is consistently 4-5 hundred higher. So I think you are paying at least a $1000 over invoice for each car. Or more...
Toyota dealers charge is $500 (+ or - $50).
That ends up being the dealers invoice price.
This is nothing new but may be a surprise for you.
The invoice price does not include any fees that may be charged by the manufacturer to dealers in a particular area of the country, such as local advertising fees. Edmunds.com does not track or provide such local fees.
If an advertising fee appears on the invoice, it is an actual cost that the dealer paid to the manufacturer when buying the vehicle. In other cases dealers may choose to write in their own ad fees on the consumer sales contract. However, in either case these advertising fees are just one example of the dealer's cost of doing business. As with all such dealer-itemized fees, consumers should treat as "negotiable" any advertising fee they are asked to pay.
While it is negotiable, on new "hot" models, there won't be much negotiation.
The intro of the ES350 will have no effect on Camry prices.
Toyota said Hyundai is absolutely targeting Toyota and not paying attention to anyone else and have made incerdible inroads into Toyota's customer base. Toyota has decided to fight back by drastically increasing supplies of Camry's over the next few years.
With its competitors all producing good mid-sized cars Toyota may have to discount the Camry heavily to attract new customers. That would increase sales but cut profits,something the company might have to do to protect its role as the maker of the best selling car in the U.S.
Toyota has a reputation of being very agressive when they see a competitior gaing strength and staying ahead of them.
Bottom line is, the grill is not an issue.
According to the pictures on pressroom.toyota.com, the Hybrid and XLE grilles have chrome inserts.
Don't know or care about the other models.
Higher price models generally get the better looking pieces!!!!!!!!!!!
Right at invoice before the rebate.
I noticed that also. Generally, Fitzmall indicates you can by almost any 2007 Camry XLE for about $600 over invoice.
I'm curious - its sounds like you are trying to 'special order' an XLE at $28,500, and it will take 3 weeks. Do you feel their price was higher or lower with a special order vs. something on the lot? I am warry of the hassle factor of special ordering - what if car comes in with a different option combination -- and the dealer does not really have the exact model/options/colors you request in the order. Good luck on your purchase.
Pick your model, color, interior, options and accessories. You know what the prices are before you go in.
Maybe have to leave a deposit.
Dealer orders your specs and factory builds and delivers it to the dealer.
Pick up in 4-8 weeks and drive away with what you want.
If it is built or ordered wrong, you are not obligated to buy what you did not order.
I guess that is harder than having a salesman sell you what he has in inventory or can trade with another dealer.
Take Command. You are the BUYER!!!!!
It does sound like that 2007 LE price is at or near invoice. Can you post the MSRP price from the sticker (an invoice if available). And, how was delivery charge, and adverising fees handled?
Thanks for the info.
The only downside I can think of is, if car arrives 4 to 8 weeks later and is somewhat different from your specifications, then you must decide if you'd take a slightly different car after that wait. Plus, what if someone else wanted your the car you special ordered, and stepped in with additional funds to take your car away after you've waited 6 weeks.
However, to get Navigation in an XLE 4 cyl in VA, special ordering may be the way to get it.
I'd be very curious to learn how your dealing goes as to pricing to expect on a special order.
BTW, Thanks for the info on new Lexus. It does look like the Camry. I think actually the Avalon would be more my speed as an alternative. I like the Avalon's looks better than Camry or Lexus, irrespective of price.
Thanks for the info on new Lexus. It does look like the Camry! I think actually the Avalon would be more my speed as an alternative. I like the Avalon's looks better than Camry or Lexus, irrespective of price.
The one thing I don't like about the Camry is the grill shape with the Toyota symbol running into the grill. I'd take the Avalon grill on the Camry if I could.
I didn't ask to see an invoice, I just used the one I got of kbb.com for my base price. I told them that $19,379 is what I'd pay, and they did the typical back and forth a few times and then agreed.
The reason I asked others for comparrison is that it almost seemed to easy to get that price. I expected more trouble.
Also, in my area, the 2006's LE Auto's (bascially the 2006 counterpart to what I bought) have been advertised consistently for between $16,500 and $17,100, which is below invoice. I'm afraid that in a month I'll see a 2007 auto LE advertized for $17,995 or something. If they could sell the 2006 for under invoice, why not the 2007.
I have factory ordered 7 or 8 times and never got a vehicle with options that I did not order.
I am at present asking all the dealers in the area for an XLE, telling that it will be a factory order, asking for their best price.
I have received 3 of 8 quotes back so far. When I get them all back I will evaluate them. The lowest price dealer so far is the closest and offers free loaner cars during service so that will be a consideration.
Before I go in to sign the order (the last two times I have just signed a fax order w/o a deposit) I will ask to see the deal written up so there is no wiggle room for the dealership. If they want a deposit, I will go see them and finalize the paperwork.
Special orders should be cheaper for the dealer as they are not financing the car while it sits in inventory.
I do no know how many vehicles a dealer can special order.
I expect to order my car early next week.