2007 Toyota Camry

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  • rishinbhatiarishinbhatia Member Posts: 3
    Hey Guys,

    I am new to the Forum. I just bought a 2007 Toyota camary. It is an LE with the JBL, bluetooth, and sunroof option. I really love my car except for the steering. I feel it is a little tight and stiff.

    What did you guys think about it.
  • rishinbhatiarishinbhatia Member Posts: 3
    Hey Guys,

    I am new to the Forum. I just bought a 2007 Toyota camary. It is an LE with the JBL, bluetooth, and sunroof option. I really love my car except for the steering. I feel it is a little tight and stiff.

    What did you guys think about it.
  • workingstiffworkingstiff Member Posts: 13
    What can I say...I always research everything half to death.

    Really, I feel reassured.
  • poorcruzerpoorcruzer Member Posts: 141
    We Canadians have good reason to be careful when purchasing a new automobile, considering we pay 15% plus in taxes, on top of air tax and tire tax and gas tax. Not to mention we pay significantly more in the initial cost of the vehicle than Americans. It adds up big time. An XLE V-6 in Canada is 38,000 large plus 1300.00 freight and PDI plus all the other taxes.
  • neno8403neno8403 Member Posts: 49
    Love my 07 Camry SE. I am really impressed with the smoothness of the ride on the SE despite it having a stiffer sports suspension. I dont understand the obsession with people and this satellite radio. Whats so amazing about it to justify hundreds of dollars buying it??? I figure if you have an MP3 player with thousands of songs on it, whats the use of satellite radio? I have almost 3,000 song downloaded on my computer that I could transfer to an MP3 player. Satellite seems like a huge waste of money. I wont be using that function in my car lol.
  • spiff72spiff72 Member Posts: 179
    I can't speak to sound quality, since I am still waiting for my Camry Hybrid. The aux jack should work for a portable satellite radio (I am sure I have read several posts confirming that). It would work for a 10 year old sony walkman if you wanted a cassette player too ;) My understanding is that you just connect a cord that plugs into the headphone jack or "line out" jack from your device.
  • rishinbhatiarishinbhatia Member Posts: 3
    Hey Guys,

    I am new to the Forum. I just bought a 2007 Toyota camary. It is an LE with the JBL, bluetooth, and sunroof option. I really love my car except for the steering. I feel it is a little tight and stiff.

    What did you guys think about it.
  • moeharrimoeharri Member Posts: 108
    I believe that most people think the Camry has about the lightest steering of any car. What was your previous car, maybe you are just used to that car? I also have an 07 LE V6 with the same options as you and find the steering to be very light (almost too light, but it's fine with me).
  • lmacmillmacmil Member Posts: 1,758
    It's not necessary to post the same message 3 times. Never heard of anyone complaining about Camry steering unless they thought it was overboosted and lacking in road feel.
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    You should be especially reassured because you are purchasing the 4-cylinder model, which has a largely carryover powertrain.

    Pssst...some of those people in "Woes" are going overboard, IMHO...don't tell them I said it!
  • blindmantooblindmantoo Member Posts: 139
    You can (and should) use the aux input for an aftermarket satellite radio. I have factory units on my SE & Odyssey, a Polk tuner at home, and two aftermarket units on my son's cars.

    The hierarchy for sound quality is:
    Best - true digital connection (only on the Polk or some factory units).
    Better - an input like the aux connector.
    Good - a cassette adaptor
    OK - Easiest is usually the "fm transmitter" which is built into many units. Sound quality varies by unit and is only as good as your fm radio at best.

    You should check out the way Toyota has implimented the antenna on the Camry. All of my automotive units have external antennas except the Camry. It is mounted on a small metal plate on the rear package shelf. So far reception is very good. The metal plate is critical since the antenna requires a metal surface (at least if it's a magnetic mount like xm provides w/ their car kits).
  • blindmantooblindmantoo Member Posts: 139
    Obviously you haven't had the luxury of using a satellite radio for an extended period (particularly a well executed factory unit). I remember telling my wife and sons about the technology about a year ago. They had no interest and couldn't figure out why anyone would pay for radio. After purchasing my Odyssey, which came w/ XM & a 90 day trial, everyone wanted one. I also have about 3k songs on my portable mp3 player - but they're no match for XM in my opinion. Besides the option of listening to news or comedy, I have heard loads of songs that I never dreamed I'd hear again, along w/ the ability to experience some bluegrass & classical from time to time. The music is parsed in every which-way possible. While I like going back to my CD's or converted mp3's every now & then, I now don't tire of them, and as a bonus, I've discovered some great new music. It's a bargain in my opinion.
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Member Posts: 2,697
    Not everyone has thousands of songs that they want to keep listening to repeatedly or wants to buy thousands of new songs.
    Satellite radio has more than just music and you get it without having all the ads on regular radio. During commute hours, you might get more than 50% ads and DJ talk on regular radio.
    I might use satellite mostly for music, but I would probably use the talk and comedy channels occasionaly.
    If there is some major disaster or weather warning, I assume they would break into the programming and notify you vs you being oblivious driving around listening to your own CDs and MP3s.
  • ray_h1ray_h1 Member Posts: 1,134
    "I really love my car except for the steering. I feel it is a little tight and stiff."

    Dunno what you came from or how old it was, but the trend currently is progressively less boost as vehicle speed increases. Also, have you checked your front tire pressures? (Go ahead and check the pressures on the rears, too - it doesn't cost extra...)
  • caddyjohncaddyjohn Member Posts: 16
    You get what you pay for.

    $249 for a doc fee is a bit steep, but I don't know where you live. The car, however, is easily worth far more than $20,888! I have seen MATRIXES listed for $22K!!! I have a XLE V6 that stickered in at a touch below $30K, and I feel as if I've gotten a killer deal.

    Remember that the average car costs about $25K nowadays. Camry is the average car price-wise, but in terms of amenities, quality and features, it is underpriced. Also, Camrys hold their value. There are two year old Camrys selling for only $2k less than their '05 sticker price at the Carmax a mile away from where I am at.

    On the other hand, my wife has a $38000+ '04 Ford Freestar Limited van in cherry condition with proper miles that the dealer won't give her $14K in trade for.

    So if you are looking to go on the cheap, Toyota is probably not the brand for you. But if you get one, it will be reliable and a good investment for a VERY long time.
  • shellrehmshellrehm Member Posts: 15
    I purchased my Aloe Green 07 Camry in March and every place I go I get comments about how much everyone likes the color. Love my car and already have 9k miles on it. :)
  • alpha01alpha01 Member Posts: 4,747
    9000 miles on it! Wow! Impressive... just curious to get more detail outta ya... why do you love it/what options did you choose, etc?

    Has anyone seen the newest issue of C/D? Allegedly the Camry is in there..... not sure in what context, though.... would love someone to shed some light!

    ~alpha
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Member Posts: 2,697
    Wow, I can't believe someone paid $38K for a new 2004 Windstar no matter how loaded with options it was.

    A 2005 Camry is not 2 years old since it was only months ago that new 2005 Camrys were selling on dealer lots.
    They only seem two years old because "07" Camrys started selling in spring of 2006.
    CarmMax prices on very late model cars do not make much sense.
    I have seen some near new used cars at CarMax that I could buy new for close enough to the same price after dealer discounting, rebates etc. that getting the used one at the CarMax price made zero sense.
    CarMax is a bad example to compare resale values with. What matters is what you could quickly sell or trade your car for realistically if you needed to liquidate it (not just a book value).
  • austinman7austinman7 Member Posts: 313
    alpha01,

    There's no editorial feature on the Camry in the August C&D. The text quoted in a previous post sounded like advertising copy to me. I'll try to remember to check when I go home this evening, unless someone else posts today with the information. I think they mentioned pages 82-83, which sounds like an ad spread.
  • luantaluanta Member Posts: 5
    Hello everyone, please help. I have a 07 camry se 4cycl. I installed 20" aftermarket wheels on it. The tpms light is on now. Does anyone know how to de-activate it? I read that one of your readers had exchanged the 16" to 17" without any problems since there where no tpms monitors in the wheels. I originally had the monitors in the stock 17" wheels however, do not have them in the new 20". I will change them back to the stock for the winter. Please help with how to deactivate the tpms warning light.
  • bassetbobbassetbob Member Posts: 21
    Luanta, Did you have the sensors intalled on the 20" after markets and does your spare have a sensor??.
  • caddyjohncaddyjohn Member Posts: 16
    "A 2005 Camry is not 2 years old since it was only months ago that new 2005 Camrys were selling on dealer lots."

    2006 Camrys were sold from August 2005 to April 2006.

    So you are right that 05 Camrys could be under 1 physical year old but they are two model years old.

    Bluebook on late model Camrys, even at trade, is not too shabby!!

    As for Freestars, realize that Sienna limiteds go for $40K++ $38K is cheaper than Toyota's comparable.
  • bassetbobbassetbob Member Posts: 21
    luanta, If your 20's don't have the sensors and you spare does, the light will show you a warning. You will either have to not use that spare or have the sensor taken out "The ECM cannot detect what it doesn't have", this according to my Toyota service guy. FYI those sensors work off radio frequencies, so do a test take the spare out of the trunk and give it some distance from the car and start the car if the light goes out, There Ya Go
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    I didn't think the spare was part of the system to begin with. All Camrys now use the temporary high-pressure (60 psi) spare.
  • bassetbobbassetbob Member Posts: 21
    If the spare has a TPMS sensor, It is part of the system.
  • lmacmillmacmil Member Posts: 1,758
    What I wonder is why anyone would put 20" rims on a Camry? :P
  • njeraldnjerald Member Posts: 689
  • poorcruzerpoorcruzer Member Posts: 141
    No kidding. A recent article in a car magazine wrote about upgrading a Dodge Magnums' wheels from 18" to 22". The wheels were 87lbs each, 37 lbs heavier than stock. This is unsprung weight folks. It stiffens the ride because you have to run lower profile tires, the steering is heavier, braking suffers, acceleration suffers. If you like your car to feel like a sloth with 50 fewer horsepower, add 20 plus rims. Also don't forget to be on a first name basis with your local brake parts supplier (Pads and Rotors). The Magnum had 5.7L V-8 HEMI 340hp, I couldn't imagine the effect on a 4 cylinder with less than half the ponies. :confuse:
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    I had the same thought, but didn't want to be the first one to mention it. Who was it that said, "if more is better, then excess can never be too much?"

    Also, Mr. Basset, there's no way the temporary spare is going to have a pressure sensor.
  • bassetbobbassetbob Member Posts: 21
    I never said the temp had a sensor, only if it did that would be part of the tpms system just like the rest of the wheels, maybe luanta has a full size spare with a sensor. Hey I'm just trying to help. Have A Great Day :)
  • austinman7austinman7 Member Posts: 313
    The August Car & Driver information posted earlier, about the new 6-speed automatic transmission, is from an ad promoting the "race-inspired" Camry SE. Among other things, it claims the new engine has the largest volume of intake air of any 6-cylinder engine in the world (!) and that the new audio system was developed using the science of "psychoacoustics." First time I've seen that term.
  • kiawahkiawah Member Posts: 3,666
    Sorry (in advance)........ The thought came to mind that the "Largest volume of intake air", was because they're sitting at the dealers with their guts open up getting transmissions repaired.
  • luantaluanta Member Posts: 5
    bassetbob and everyone involved, thank you for your response. I don't have a full size spare. I have a little black donut. I am wondering if there is any way to turn off the tpms light. I found out how to turn off the "maintenance required" light which the dealer was kinda hesitant to tell me. I am old fashion, i like to change the oil myself but apparently all new camrys will have that light automatically on at 4,500miles to remind you to bring it in to the dealer for service. Just in case anyone is interested in how to turn it off themselves, its rather easy. Here's how, 1. RESET YOUR TRIP METER TO "TRIP A". 2. TURN OFF THE ENGINE 3. PRESS DOWN ON THE "TRIP METER A" BUTTON AND HOLD. 4. SIMULTANEOUSLY, TURN THE IGNITION KEY TO THE SECOND STEP (WHEN ALL THE LIGHTS GO ON BUT BEFORE STARTING THE ENGINE) CONTINUING TO HOLD THE TRIP METER BUTTON FOR 20 SECONDS. REMEMBER, YOU HAVE TO PRESS THE TRIP METER BUTTON BEFORE TURNING THE KEY TO STEP 2 AND IT HAS TO BE ON THE TRIP A SCREEN PRIOR. HOLDING FOR 20 SECONDS WILL RESET YOUR "MAINTENANCE REQUIRED" LIGHT FOR ANOTHER 4,500 MILES. HOPE THAT HELPS. HAVE A NICE DAY.
  • luantaluanta Member Posts: 5
    i ordered the wheels from discount tire direct which comes with their own tpms sensors which are suppose to be compatible. apparently its not. i could buy the sensors from toyota and have them mounted, however, with 20" wheels, the cost of mounting and the sensors and the different tire pressures, not even sure if that would work either. I check my tire pressure rather often bc of the low profile tires. I just feel as if there is some way to deactivate the sensor rather easily. thanks bassetbob.
  • shellrehmshellrehm Member Posts: 15
    I purchased the LE for a smoother ride (you can see by the miles how much I drive) than the SE and I didn't like the color of the wood trim in the XLEs. I have leather seats which where port installed, DVD entertainment system in the both headrest (dealer installed), Extra mile package D.
  • bassetbobbassetbob Member Posts: 21
    Hi lunata,I agree there should be a on-off switch for the TPMS, but it sounds like those aftermarket sensors are NOT compatible with your ECM. I'm running without the sensors with no problem light flashing, maybe that is the easiest way to go, that way you can use the factories that have the sensors for the winter. I think alot of people over look the whole point of this forum, I thought it was for helping people figure out a problem and not criticize,and alot of these same people don't even have the car they're critical about :confuse:
  • iamqzliamqzl Member Posts: 11
    Thank you for the information.

    By the way, I live in Salt Lake City, Utah. There are 6 toyota dealers within 50 mile range. That was the first dealer I visited.

    The price on sticker was $21,279 (20,500 [MSRP] + 199[CF] + 580 [destination]), and the dealer offered me was 20,888 (plus docs, registrations, and 6.6% Utah state Tax).

    I would consider to buy it for 20,888 if including docs and registrations.
  • ctlctl Member Posts: 129
    6 speed tran. with Camry (ES350 too). Plus probably whatever new tech goodies 2007 Camry have. I am choosing between these two. The invoice price diff. is roughly 3-3.5K for XL/T/XLS v.s. LE/SE/XLE. I am leaning toward Avalon for our next family car (2 young kids), but my frugal side demands me to justify. Now, other than obviously being larger in size (which is fine but not necessary to me) and a step up in Toyota family, what does those 3K buy me? tangible/intangible. Please share your side of story, thanks.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Actually, you posted in the right place the first time. Rather than sidetrack this discussion, let's ask folks who have responses for you to reply to you here: ctl, "Toyota Camry 2007 vs Toyota Avalon" #59, 30 Jun 2006 12:14 pm.

    (And please don't post the same message more than once! ;))
  • lmacmillmacmil Member Posts: 1,758
    First comment: if the light bothers you, put a small piece of black tape over it.

    Second comment: why would a manufacturer put an on/off switch on a safety feature, especially one as benign as the TPMS? TPMS will be mandated by the government pretty soon. At that point, Toyota couldn't even put a switch in the system if they wanted to.

    Toyota is building cars for the masses, not for the fractional percent of people who want to modify their cars.
  • bassetbobbassetbob Member Posts: 21
    On-off switches would be a great Idea, give the responsibility to the consumer. I have a company (government) car that has an on-off switch for the passenger side air bag, my camry has a switch that turns off the power windows to the back and passengers windows. Seems to me that they are switched safety features, and most all four door cars have the child guard door locks that can be used or not. Anyway in the mean time I'm stocking up on black tape.
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    The 3 items you cite are different from tpms in that all are helpful or downright necessary if you carry children in the car. For adults, you want the passenger airbag to deploy in a crash, and adults are perfectly capable of opening and closing their own windows and doors.
  • luantaluanta Member Posts: 5
    Bassetbob, i am surprised that your light hasn't come on yet. Mine actually didn't come on until a month later when i took a trip for 90 miles straight. A week later, it went off. But then I took a trip back and the light came on again. Now its constantly on. I am curious as to why because the dealer where i bought the car, actually sells the new camry with these wheels ( my aftermarket wheels 20" Enkie LXi). They charge $4000 as a wheel option. I knew that i could get it for less with online so I did. I am wondering what they are doing for their customers who bought this option bc i would be very upset if I had to live with it after paying $4000 as a dealer option and have a light on. I just feel as if they have some way of de-activating it. Just curious. Thanks.
  • bassetbobbassetbob Member Posts: 21
    Luanta, I can just explain the way my Toyota service rep explained it to me. If the sensors aren't there, the ECM doesn't find a fault, no fault no light. You would think that the light would be going nuts because the sensors aren't there, but it's just the opposite. I'm sure you know this but there are codes for each sensor and those codes have to be programmed in the ECM at Toyota, the problem is the sensors are inside the wheel and in your case the wheel(s) have to be torn down to get at the sensors, maybe your sensors need to be scanned into the ECM (more$$$). Hope this helps.
  • lmacmillmacmil Member Posts: 1,758
    "On-off switches would be a great idea, give the responsibility to the consumer."

    Unfortunately, the typical consumer has proven that he's not capable of making rational decisions in regards to his own safety. How else could we explain all the helmet-less motorcycle riders and people who don't wear seatbelts?

    Otoh, as one who checks his tire pressures regularly, I think mandating a TPMS is going too far and probably not going to prevent many accidents. In fact, it's probably going to hurt the tire manufacturers. ;)
  • pskpsk Member Posts: 18
    I have a Hybrid, but I am posting this here b/c I believe both cars have the same JBL system.

    I am very disappointed in the performance of the sound system in my new Camry. The lack of a tweeter and the woofer only in the door make the sound very muddled.

    So I am going to put a new amp (probably JL Audio 300/4) and a set of component 6.5" Morels in the front and at this point leave the backs alone.

    I called the dealership to see if there were any issues that tie the head unit to the amp. I was surprised by them telling me there are 3 amps in the car. The main one I know of (under passenger seat), one in the dash, and one in the back somewhere (he called it the antenna amp).

    Is this true?

    If I replace the amp under the seat only what will happen? I don't plan in using the mids in the dash so if those don't work I would not care.

    Has anyone done this on a 2007 Camry w/ JBL yet (hybrid or regular)?
  • luantaluanta Member Posts: 5
    I see your point. I guess I will live with it until time to change tires. Which at that point I will remove the units completely. Thanks.
  • ray_h1ray_h1 Member Posts: 1,134
    The antenna amplifier is nothing more than a raw signal booster to increase the RF output into the head unit's antenna input, or an XM or Sirius receiver for improved reception. Ignore it - it has no bearing on the audio improvements you're trying to accomplish. I have no real idea what the dash amplifier is about unless it's just the normal ampified output from the head unit that would otherwise drive the midrange drivers and tweeters. (Toyota's JBL under-the-seat amplifier may be dedicated to servicing the low frequency drivers, only.) I doubt you'll damage anything by trying what you initially intended to do. You might even find the current under-the-seat amp has all the power you need for better replacement low frequency drivers - if not, you'd still have the option of upping the ante with a more powerful replacement amplifier. If you do end up replacing both the under-the-seat amplifier and the low frequency drivers, you might find you need an outboard equalizer to balance output to your current midrange and high frequency drivers. Even that could be mounted under the seat once you're satisfied with the settings. Then, in use, you'd merely tweak tonal balance of recordings and radio reception to your liking with your head unit's own tone controls.
  • pskpsk Member Posts: 18
    Thanks for the info. I am not worried about anything attached to the head unit. So if this antenna plugs into that then it won't cause any problems. I am just worried about what is downstream of the amp since I will be losing the factory amp and putting in a 4 channel amp. This other amp in the dash has me confused b/c why would it amplify an already amplified signal.

    I am planning on putting new 6.5" components in the front where the 6x9 woofer is currently. The second set of outputs will be for the existing back speakers. I don't plan on hooking up the dash speakers. Hopefully I won't lose all of the beeps and such from the warning systems as well that were sent to the dash speakers.
  • caddyjohncaddyjohn Member Posts: 16
    "I am very disappointed in the performance of the sound system in my new Camry. The lack of a tweeter and the woofer only in the door make the sound very muddled."

    This is the first I have heard of this. :confuse: I find the sound in my JBL 2007 Camry to be responsive throughout the spectrum; if anything, I worry about excessive sibilants and overly bright high-end. There are obviously tweeters in this sound system. And hopefully I know what I am talking about since I used to write for an audophile magazine. :)

    I wonder if your problem may not be a defective pair of drivers in the dashboard.
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