Honda Civic Sedan 2006

civic2006

Hello Folks,

It has been just 5 days driving my new Honda Civic EX
2006 model. I hae started hearing the growl at around
39-43 MPH. It surely seems to be lugging. What seems
to happen is that gear shifts to the fifth gear and
slight incline or even on plain road when just stepping
on the pedal slightly trying to maintain the speed I
hear the growl. It looks like something vibrating.

I think this is not good for the engine in any case,
too much load. The vibrating part will sooner or later
get loose and cause further trouble. I am taking it
back to the dealer. Will let you'll know what happens.

Has anyone gone back to the dealer for this and was it
resolved ?

civic2006 owner
PS: This is my third Honda, maybe it is time to switch
to a Toyota.

crissman

Good luck with your trip to the dealer. Quite a few of us have heard this "growl". Mine has not grown to the irritating point yet, but time will tell. I am getting a little rattle that seems to come from the windshield vent while driving on rough roads, but, like the growl, it's very intermittent and liveable for now. In spite of these minor "teething" pains I'm still loving the car. No regrets.

sheldo1

I have the same problem and took my car back to the dealer. They could hear the noise but couldn't determine the cause. The dealer contacted Honda who said they had around 6 complaints about this(as of early December) and assigned a case number. They didn't have a solution at the time. I plan to follow up soon so if I hear anything I will let everyone know.

civic2006

Thanks for the information. My guess is that this growling
sound will get more intense/noticeable in the summer months
when the AC is cranked up putting more load on the engine.

I will keep everyone posted.

midnightcowboy

I still contend it is the "LUG Bug" problem and not due to catalitic converter shield harmonic resonance.

That being said, I also contend that the "LUG Bug" will go away on its own once the engine loosens up.

In the meantime driving in D4 or D3 around town can circumvent the "LUG Bug".

Soon to be double-sixes ,

MidCow

leland828

I live in the Bronx and I am currently looking for the best deal on the 2006 Civic Sedan. Where did you find your car?

leland828

Please help me make up my mind, I can't decide between the Coupe or the Sedan

crissman

I wish it did, but my '06 EX does not have a D4 position on the shifter. Am I missing something here?

allfiredup

Please help me make up my mind, I can't decide between the Coupe or the Sedan

Are you considering the LX or EX? Do you carry passengers?

If I didn't need the passenger space of the Sedan, I'd probably pick the EX Coupe for the kickin' stereo. I test drove both and the Coupe seemed to have more rearward seat travel for the driver's seat. If you're under six feet tall, not a big deal. I'm 6'3" so it was more comfortable in the Coupe.

cavman1

I own an 06 Civic Sedan with Nav. I recently had the windows tinted with metallic tint (nothing on the front window, just sides and rear), and I haven't noticed any problems with the Navigation, FM or AM reception. (Admittedly, I don't use AM much). I would say choose whatever kind you want and enjoy. Doesn't seem to be causing me any issues. I live in Florida, so I went for maximum sun protection.

slawenda1

Has anyone purchased / installed the XM Satellite Radio Kit on a new 2006 Civic that is "XM-Ready"? If so, how much did you pay (parts and labor)? Is it possible to buy parts for this that are not Honda parts (i.e. cheaper)? If so, where? Did anyone have someone other than their dealer install it (e.g. Best Buy)? I want to add XM directly to the navigation unit on a new 2006 Civic Sedan EX with navigation, but most dealers want to charge around $700-800!!! What a rip-off! Price should be no more than half of that! Please let me know. Thanks.

midnightcowboy

Mea Culpa, didn't mean to confuse.

I don't have an automatic and didn't know what the postion one below D was called since Honda went to a 5-speed automatic. I believe with 4-speed they used to be called D4 and D3. From the picture, it is called Dx where x is a number but is difficult to read.

Cheers,

MidCow

warner

#3263 of 3270 Re:"LUG Bug" problem by midnightcowboy Jan 09, 2006 (1:16 pm)
Replying to: civic2006 (Jan 09, 2006 1:02 pm)

I still contend it is the "LUG Bug" problem and not due to catalitic converter shield harmonic resonance.

That being said, I also contend that the "LUG Bug" will go away on its own once the engine loosens up.

In the meantime driving in D4 or D3 around town can circumvent the "LUG Bug".

Soon to be double-sixes ,

MidCow

It's funny you should say that, because it either IS a lugging problem, or else I never had it on my '06 Civic. I notice that even when going 37 mph, if I'm easy enough on the gas the trans will shift into 5th gear, at which point the engine is only turning about 1200 rmp's. This is just above idle, and it's pulling 5th gear. I used to hear a lugging sound, but last night when I noticed it in 5th gear at under 40mph, I listened closely and could not detect any lugging sound whatsoever. Now, I have a little over 2,000 miles on my car now so maybe there is some type of break in period. I'm very happy with it shifting up so quickly, as it will give better fuel economy like this. If I want to accelerate, I simply step on the gas and it downshifts, just like it should (and just like I would if it were a manual like my '04 was). Having said that, I NEVER heard anything that sounded like a loose heat-shield on a catalytic converter (and that was a trademark of the old 80's escorts that I used to drive back then, so I know the sound well). Maybe there is another issue. The noise on my car was never offensive; in fact it was hardly noticeable.

Warner

navlover

I want my Stern ! (Sirius) Yes, I can do the 'external' solution, but I would kill to have to have it integrated like the XM would be if I got that.

sheldo1

I keep hearing about a "lugging" problem but if this is the case, why don't I hear the sound below 1500 RPM in 5th gear. It is only when the car reaches 1500 do I hear the noise. I can even hear the noise in 1st as I pass through 1500 RPM.

In my car the noise is very offensive especially when I consider it is a new car that I paid for with my hard earned money. The noise is some kind of resonance but I am not sure where it comes from. I'll leave that diagnosis up to Honda who is now well aware of the problem. I refuse to use a different gear to mask the problem. This is a design problem that needs to be fixed not covered up.

civic2006

That is right, I hear a noticeable sound even at lower gears around 1500 RPM. My 97 Accord, which I traded in,
did not make that sound and neither does my wife's 2004
Accord. I have a long stretch of road on my commute that
has speed limits of 40-45 with ups and downs and the
sound is irritating considering its a new brand car.

I have removed everything that I had placed in the car
from coins to my son's car seat to verify that the sound
is not from stuff that I placed in the car and I still
hear the sound. If I am not satisfied with my dealers response maybe I will just put up a web site to collect
information from people seeing this problem so that it
gets Honda's attention.

civic2006

Yea, there is no option D4 on the shifter.
The next one is D3.
In any case if I had to drive in D3 or D4 to circumvent
this issue then Honda should not be advertising the 30/40
MPG on the civic. One of the main reasons of buying the civic was the 30/40 MPG fuel efficiency.
If I had to drive in D3/D4 on streets and D5 on highway
why did I pay the extra bucks for a automatic, I would have
bought a manual or just go buy one of those gas guzzlers.

crissman

I wonder if this could have something to do with the system that shuts down valves under light load. If not that, it sounds, to me, more like vibration than lugging. I don't hear the valve chatter that I used to associate with lugging.

warner

Yea, there is no option D4 on the shifter.
The next one is D3.
In any case if I had to drive in D3 or D4 to circumvent
this issue then Honda should not be advertising the 30/40
MPG on the civic. One of the main reasons of buying the civic was the 30/40 MPG fuel efficiency.
If I had to drive in D3/D4 on streets and D5 on highway
why did I pay the extra bucks for a automatic, I would have
bought a manual or just go buy one of those gas guzzlers.

What if Honda's fix for the problem that you are experiencing involves reprogramming of the shift points? In other words, it may be that they would have the trans not shift into 5th gear until the car was moving 45mph, for example. Wouldn't that have the same effect as you manually downshifting to 4th (or 3rd)? Obviously the engine is lugging at that rpm range trying to pull that tall gear, so I can't think of any other solution for the issue. I don't notice any disturbing noise in my car, even at 1200 rpm's, because my trans downshifts as soon as I even slightly push on the gas pedal, but I do know what you are talking about. Please keep us all informed on what Honda says about the issue.

Thanks,

Warner

charlotte2

Yes that is what they say it is the fuel injector. They finnaly agreed that mine is not right. It is much louder then the other o6 Civics. It is now in the shop getting repaired, I hope. They used every excuse in the book on why it was ok, then said yes you are right, it is to loud and not the same. Hope they get it right as I love the car. Everything in it is easy.
Can you tell me how your gas mileage is? At first mine was good 37, but now it is down to 25 to 27. They are now telling me that it is the way I pump the gas and the winter fuel mix and different ways people drive. I have a 5 speed and it should be great on gas. Have you ever heard of something like that.
Just wondering what everyone was getting on theirs.
Char

sheldo1

I put mine in the shop today for the same ticking sound. The dealer tested mine against other cars on the lot and said there was definitely a problem. Mine didn't occur until about 1500 miles. I'll let you know what they come up with but they think it is in the valve train somewhere.

This is my first Honda. I like the car but so far I am not impressed with the initial quality. I have this problem as well as the "growl" among other things. Honda has a great reputation but so far I don't see it in the car I bought.

navlover

To anyone with the Nav system...

I created several folders on my Mac, and copied Music over, but once in my car my system saw it all as one big folder, it seems.

??? Could it be a "Mac" thing ?

anson3491

On my 2003 Honda, when I kick the mud flaps to get the snow and ice out the quater panel behind the mud flap is solid as a rock..........on my 2006 when I do the same it is flimsy...........it feels like I am kicking out snow on a Ford or Chevy.............the quality has diminished on some level...........the car is not as solid as my 03

Don't get me wrong.........the car is nice, and great looking, but something is up with Honda, or maybe just first year build issues........I'm in northern Vermont and the cycles of melting and freezing ice under and in between quarter panels, have a way of testing a car's quality in a short period of time. So far I am not as satisfied with the construction and fit, as with my 03 and 95 Honda Civics. I question whether I can get 200k out of this one like with my 82 and 87 Hondas.

I hear the engine ticking lightly and the extremely light growl people are referring to, that does not bother me at all.......

06 Civics need a tow kit and Thule fit kit...........

targettuning

I fully concur with your feeling about the handling of the "lug" or harmonic resonance problem. This happens to be my first Honda and after all the years of glowing praise from automobile magazines...happy, no, estatic owners and the definition of Honda as "God's own car". Well, I am mildly disappointed so far. I do love the style but between an early recall, the loose bolt I found under the passenger seat (I don't know if it belongs anywhere or not) and now this mild but annoying "growl" for lack of a better term. I'm wondering about my move from Hyundai..go ahead and smirk. I'll keep the Honda for now but I am also in the market for a slightly larger car i.e. Accord, Camry, Passat, Sonata and I believe I'll go back to Hyundai for that car.

lmp1976

I created folders with my PC and they all showed up when I put the card in my car. I'm using a compact flash and card adapter...not sure if that matters or not.

anson3491

Does anyone know definitively, where the temperature sensor is on these cars...........Is it down near the road measuring road temps like the Volvo X-Country or is it higher?

mattjd4

Does anyone else notice on their 06' that you can hear every stone or piece of road debris hitting in the wheel wells and on the undercarriage?

anson3491

Yes that has also caught my attention a few times already!

crissman

Yes. Maybe. I believe it's the temp sensor I'm seeing behind the lower grill on driver's side front of radiator/condensor, about a foot off the ground.

crissman

I hear some stuff hitting, but I'm presently very sensitive about the health of my new baby. I'd guess it's just because new tires tend to pick up and throw more stuff than worn ones.

warner

I hear some stuff hitting, but I'm presently very sensitive about the health of my new baby. I'd guess it's just because new tires tend to pick up and throw more stuff than worn ones.

It could also be the way the 16" wheels fit so snugly into the wheel wells.

Warner

midnightcowboy

XM comes with the NAV system. I had the XM trial period in a Accord and did not extend it. I proabalby won't on my Civic Si w/NAV either. ESPECIALLY not for the reason you want it. This article pretty much sums up mine an many others feelings: http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20060112/cm_usatoday/tuneoutsternsfilthysatelli- teshow

YOMV,

MidCow

warner

XM comes with the NAV system. I had the XM trial period in a Accord and did not extend it. I proabalby won't on my Civic Si w/NAV either. ESPECIALLY not for the reason you want it. This article pretty much sums up mine an many others feelings: http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20060112/cm_usatoday/tuneoutsternsfilthysatelli- - teshow

YOMV,

MidCow

That's the wonderful thing about a radio...especially a service that someone chooses to pay for; you can change the channel or turn it off anytime you want to. People have the right to boycott Sirius or Stern or whatever they want, but I will fight vehemently if someone tries to regulate freedom of speech that I'm PAYING for. I'm a fairly hard-core republican, but if the religious right starts trying to regulate ALL freedom of speech, the votes in my household could change. Okay...off my soap box and back to the regularly scheduled program.

Warner

jaxs1

No, XM does not come with the Nav on the sedan. Only on the coupe.
Dealer has to install it on sedans.

earth

I did not extend the XM radio on my coupe for one reason....They charge for it. We are being nickle and dimmed to death, and tired of it. The amount of time I spend in the car ( not much ) I don't even turn on the regular radio, and just listen to my burned cd music.....

PS : I don't like Howerd Stern

midnightcowboy

That is one thing I don't agree with Honda about the same audio sytem should be available on both the sedan and the coupe. It this case, the EX & Si Coupes get a much higher level stereo with more power, sub woofer and XM.

If XM is you thing, expecailly if you drive over long distances then XM has great sound quality. I primarily listen to local radio talk shows or an old Rock-n-Roll station or Jazz.

YMMV,

MidCow

jaxs1

Not just for long distances. If you sit in traffic for an hour and only travel 20 miles each way, it's the same amount of time spent in the car.
Also good if you spend a lot of time on short trips doing errands all day.
Commercial free new music is nice for long vacation trips rather than listening to your own recorded collection of music you played dozens of times before.

If you only wanted the XM for music, you could spend the XM fee on buying 13 new tracks a month from iTunes to keep your music collection from getting stale though.

midnightcowboy

What I meant by travelling long distances is that with XM since you are receiving a satellite signal and station doesn't fade out because of distance and you have to search for new stations. I do like the Honda/Acura button where it will automatically find all nearby AM and FM stations.

When I get my Si , I primarily plan on listening to Greddy, Skunk 2 or Tanabe.

Cheers,

MidCow

travis77

I actually did hear it the other day,, (the motorcycle sound)-(growl) it lasted for about 15 min till i got home, but i haven't heard again and i have driven about 150 miles since. The day it happened was the day that i got it to that 6000 rpm mark,,, but since then the car is actually driving alot smoother than the day i bought it. It acts like the high rpm is what it needed,,,,like it can breath a lil better,,, because it sure does act alot smoother now and there is no more motorcycle sound. As a matter of fact i gave a little hell this morning trying to get to work on time and it seemed to like it. Now,,, my disclaimer,,,, i'm not saying to go and get your car to 6000 rpms and see if it straightens out. I'm just tellin you what i did with my car.. so i guess the point is,, is don't do it if you don't think you should. The General manager of my honda dealership did tell me that the civic is made to DRIVE though. So anyway take this into consideration and try it if you want or don't. This post is also in the Honda Civic: problems and solutions forum

blane

midcow,

You linked to an article about the bilgemouth now on the Dog, saying "This article pretty much sums up mine an many others feelings." Why would you relate that article to XM's programming? He's not on XM's satellite.

For whatever it's worth, I'm an XM subscriber and would probably be very unhappy if I no longer had access to their great variety of programming.

crissman

Hey travis77, is your Civic an automatic? Were you getting 6000 rpms when it upshifted? Sounds like fun. I haven't cranked mine up to that point yet. You must have been hitting about 90. How's the stability up there in the stratosphere?

travis77

Yep my Civic is an automatic,,, and as soon as i got on the on ramp to the interstate i floored it and yes ,,i was doing 90 when i got on the interstate. Stability is secure. Feels like i'm in a brick,,, just feels like a solid car not afraid to do it,,, The civic likes the high revs,,, lol,,, i wouldn't do the high revs all the time though

midnightcowboy

Blane,

You are right the dog not XM. I couldn't belive someone would get the dog for Stern and admit it on a public forum. Hey , if you like the XM variety , then that is great. I just find myself not listening to much except news/talk, Rock and Roll oldies and Jazz.

Cruis'n,

MidCow

navlover

Thanks. It was a simple case of me not playing around with the (car audio) system enough. Very cool !

BTW - Love Stern or hate Stern, or any XM/Siruis programming for that matter... what sux is that we are not given the option of choosing which Satellite service we want factory integrated. (Yes, I know there is business logic behind it but still)

civic2006

Hello Folks,
My car was at the dealer workshop yesterday but the technicians could not figure out the problem.
The status given to me at pickup was
"Issue under investigation by American Honda Corp.
Until further notice from Honda it should be
considered as normal functioning of the vehicle."

Though I did not expect to get the issue fixed, it would
at least log in Honda's records of problems.
Frankly I feel it is simple as just some faulty component attachment which causes the resonance sound. But in any case it should be diagnosed and fixed by Honda.

sheldo1

I just love it when the Mfg. says a problem is "normal functioning" Of course it is if most of the cars have the problem. It certainly doesn't mean it is acceptable in my mind.

civic2006

I must say that this should not be a difficult task for Honda to figure out the problem. Though I am satisfied
with the way the dealer workshop's response.
On noticing the problem the technician tested another
Civic from the lot and reported the same noise. So
it does seem that it is not by chance that you, me and
someone else's vehicle has this issue.
I only wonder what peoples reaction would be if they
know about this and hear this sound during a test drive.

vix4

Sorry to hear about the problems with your new Civic. My Honda has been a disappointment as well.

My front struts have been replaced (at only 15,000 miles) the transmission makes odd noises, has odd performance
the trim around the windshield peeled away,
the passenger airbag cover has faded to a different color,
rattles that can't be found
drivers seat rocks back and forth

and more....

My Honda has had more problems than any other car I've owned.

travis77

wow,,,thats odd,,, my 06 civic is the best car i have ever had thus far

blane

Midcow,

I too most enjoy XM's news, talk, Broadway shows, R&R, oldies, old time radio, comedy, traffic, etc, etc.