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Different strokes for different folks.
Judging by all of the glowing press reviews and internet postings, you seem to be in an aesthetic minority regarding the styling of the new Civics.
Edmunds pretty much trashed the new Civic when compared to the Mazda3
Edmunds called the the new Civic "suppository-esque" looking. "Design concerns:
First on that list is the Civic's suppository-esque styling, which didn't win many fans around the office."
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=108601/pageId=676- 80
The good thing is there is a lot more competition in small cars now. Honda doesn't have a lock on the market any more and the consumer wins.
I didn't even think to check out Mazda when I bought my car, but Edmunds sure seems to think it is a much better car than the 2006 Civic.
Competition is good.
My post #3312 message was in response to sanitationofcr's post #3311 hideous & ugly comments about the styling of the Civic, nothing more. "Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder."
A car shouldn't have a vibration like you described at idle though, especially with a manual transmission.
How many miles are on your Civic?
Computers are here to stay. I lived through the non-computer cars; no way I want to go through that again!!
MidCow
Auto trans equipped Proteges have an interesting high pitched whine while at highway speeds. Owners complained and Mazda replied by saying that it was the natural resonance of the transmission. In no way is it a part failure, just a design flaw. Definitely something that the dealer cannot fix. So do you still hang hte issue over the dealer's head? Furthermore, Honda likely wouldn't put it at the top of the list for fixes. I personally don't see it as high priority. It's not like the loose gas pedal issue. Maybe that's the way the car is supposed to sound.
Some posts had people complaining about a rattle hear and there, or easily hearing the sounds of the road through the floor. It isn't a Lexus, it's an economy car. Do you think the fully loaded EX gets more insulation than the stripped down DX? I guess I'm sort of saying, "keep and open mind." There's a lot to like about this car and it is a first year model. Think about what Cobalt owners put up with.
Sorry to hear about your problem. I gather from what you are saying the problem is every 2006 Honda Civic and not just your car. What does your dealer say? Have you test driven the same model car at your dealerand do those also have the same exact problems?
Good Luck,
MidCow
I have taken it back to the dealer 6 weeks back. Guess what they say. "The problem cannot be duplicated". But one of the technician did tell me privately that the problem happen on other 06 Civic too. I don't think I can do anything but praying for a recall.
Vinnyc
I have close to 3000 miles on mine now. Although the noise was VERY minimal (nothing like a loose heat-shield on a catalytic converter that some were comparing it to) and was absolutely the engine lugging a bit, mine has basically disappeared as well. I have had the car in 5th gear with the engine spinning as slowly as 1200 rpm's (about 35mph or so in 5th gear) and no lugging is to be heard. I've TRIED to make some noise by slowly depressing the accelerator (to put some load on the engine without putting enough load to force a downshift into 4th gear), but could not get any noise whatsoever. Hopefully others who were more sensitive to the noise (or perhaps had a different issue than what I'm thinking) will have a similar experience as their engines/trannys break in a bit. I love the new Civic. Having traded in my 2004 5-speed (manual, of course) for the 2006 EX Auto, I am very pleased. The new model is a completey different car - it's much larger, rides nicer, and is MUCH quieter at highway speeds. Although it's strictly opinion, the looks of the new car are WAY nicer than the old boring Civic - much more upscale. I actually had a teenage kid complement my car last week; that NEVER happened with the 2004. I don't regret making the change for a minute.
Warner
Vinnyc
Vinny, if that were my Civic that was making such an offensive noise, I'd ask one of the technicians to ride with me in the car (while I drove - since you know best how to duplicate the noise). If you do that, they can't say they were unable to duplicate it, right?
Good luck and keep us posted,
Warner
PS - For the record, my 2006 Civic EX never made any troublesome noises.
I did that exactly what you said. I was able to duplicate the noise while we went for the test drive. Unfortunely, they did not have the time to inspect my car right away. I had to send it in 2 days later for inspection. That's what they put on the report. "Unale to duplicate the problem". I have a feeling that the dealer may not even know how to fix the problem or they don't consider unusual noise is a problem.
Vinny
Even if they know that is a problem. It doesn't mean they will fix for you for whatever reasons.
Can I ask how many Civic 06's owners has got this noise problem fix by the dealer???
Vinny
I know there are some people on this board who say the noise is minimal in their cars. That's great but it doesn't mean it is minimal in my car.
Then people can start planning their class actions.
If it is something other than a very mild lugging sound, then my car never had it at all. I did hear a very minimal engine lugging sound when in top gear at about 40mph during the first maybe 1000 miles if the engine was under load (going up a slight hill, for example) and if the gas pedal wasn't pushed down enough to cause a downshift to 4th gear (which, at least in my car, basically meant that I couldn't push down on the gas pedal at all, or it would downshift into 4th gear). I am unable to duplicate that noise today (no matter how hard I try) with a little over 3,000 miles on the car. I'm watching this thread closely to see what the actual cause of the noise turns out to be and what Honda does to correct it.
Warner
Perhaps Honda is becoming a little more flexible?
OhioCarGuy
The technician clearly heard the sound and said that it is
certainly not normal. They tried to reproduce the sound
in the workshop but could not. The technician also clearly stated that it was not something that would go away with a break-in after a few hundred miles.
This is clearly not a problem that the dealer is going to
solve. It is a manufacturing defect and has to be resolved by Honda. Dealers are not going to invest in time researching this issue to be able to fix it for us for free.
Let me give you a tip, though - it's best not to post in all caps. Doing so makes your message very difficult to read and it looks like you are yelling at us.
Again, welcome and have fun!
You know, thats funny that you said that, because EVERYONE forgets about Mazda. Probably the lack of advertising.
It is tough to say that the Mazda3 is a better car, but, maybe more of a car. And you can get the Mazda3 Grand Touring with zenon HID's, leather, heated seats, climate control, rain sensing windshield wipers, and nav!..I don't most of that in a Civic.
And I do agree, the new Civic is UGLY.....but, I do like the coupe...a little bit...I thought the digital speedometer went out of style when GM stopped using them.
For what it is worth, my 88 Civic had something very similar which really started making a racket when some of the tack welds holding the catalytic converter heat shield came lose. That shield rattled and made quite a noise at a certain RPM. Simply securing it with a hose clamp solved the problem.
I don't think a hose clamp will help the 2006 Civic issue, but I agree with targettuning that Honda will probably add a bracket or something at some point for future production to tame the problem. If we can figure out what it is, maybe we can retrofit our cars too.
Good Luck,
MidCow
If all I wanted was a car to get you too and from work and wouldn't embarrass you I would get a Viper