Honda Civic Sedan 2006

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  • sheldo1sheldo1 Member Posts: 64
    The Honda dealer did a valve adjustment and the ticking sound went away. Hopefully it is gone for good.
  • midnightcowboymidnightcowboy Member Posts: 1,978
    What is a Honda Civci Ci ??
  • sanitationofcrsanitationofcr Member Posts: 9
    I wouldn't blame you for going back to Hyundai. The new Civic is HIDEOUS! I'll wait for the new Elantra before I buy that ugly piece. MotorTrend must have had their eyes closed when they voted it car of the year. :lemon:
  • blaneblane Member Posts: 2,017
    sanitationofcr,

    Different strokes for different folks.

    Judging by all of the glowing press reviews and internet postings, you seem to be in an aesthetic minority regarding the styling of the new Civics.
  • vix4vix4 Member Posts: 52
    I wouldn't say the press has been all glowing, especially Edmunds.

    Edmunds pretty much trashed the new Civic when compared to the Mazda3

    Edmunds called the the new Civic "suppository-esque" looking. "Design concerns:
    First on that list is the Civic's suppository-esque styling, which didn't win many fans around the office."

    http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=108601/pageId=676- 80

    The good thing is there is a lot more competition in small cars now. Honda doesn't have a lock on the market any more and the consumer wins.

    I didn't even think to check out Mazda when I bought my car, but Edmunds sure seems to think it is a much better car than the 2006 Civic.

    Competition is good.
  • blaneblane Member Posts: 2,017
    vix4,

    My post #3312 message was in response to sanitationofcr's post #3311 hideous & ugly comments about the styling of the Civic, nothing more. "Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder."
  • skeeter11skeeter11 Member Posts: 33
    Purchased an 06 Civic Sedan EX 5 speed manual about 2 months ago. Have noticed that when the engine temperature has reached normal, the resting idle seems to be set too low. As a result, when the car is at a stop, there is a strong uncomfortable vibration that runs through the drivers seat and up my entire back. Honda has yet been able to correct this so called "computer" problem. Also, there exists static in my FM radio stations that the radio itself selects as having a strong signal. Just wondering if anyone else has experienced these problems and if they have been resolved. Thanks.
  • vix4vix4 Member Posts: 52
    Yes I know your post was about the styling. That article I linked disses the new style, and compares it to a suppository.
  • vix4vix4 Member Posts: 52
    The idle is adjusted by the computer, so the dealer can't change it.

    A car shouldn't have a vibration like you described at idle though, especially with a manual transmission.

    How many miles are on your Civic?
  • blaneblane Member Posts: 2,017
    That's a cutesie opinion that was surely not reflected in the vast majority of the many reviews that I've read. Some writers have nothing better to do to attract attention.
  • skeeter11skeeter11 Member Posts: 33
    I have 1,950 miles on my civic. So much for computer technology. I would take the old way of adjusting an idle anyday over this new computer stuff.
  • midnightcowboymidnightcowboy Member Posts: 1,978
    Okay, You can have points and plugs with the same horsepower and performance and get 12/18 miles per gallon. No thanks; I'll take the computer technology and anyday. If to is a computer idle problem then an easy computer TSB can be issued and fix the problem. I would be willing to bet that whne your engine has 2-3,000 miles on it and loosens up a little ,your problem will go away.

    Computers are here to stay. I lived through the non-computer cars; no way I want to go through that again!!

    MidCow
  • targettuningtargettuning Member Posts: 1,371
    Oh, I like the design well enough, it is one of the main reasons I chose the Civic over the current Elantra and Corolla it is the small things that I wouldn't have expected on a brand as well regarded as Honda that have slightly put me off. By no means do I hate the car nor is it a "piece of junk" but.....well, lets just say I don't absolutely love the car either
  • qddaveqddave Member Posts: 164
    I've test driven a few Civics and did not notice any irregular vibrations, although I wasn't looking for them. I'm not trying to start anything, just curious. What if the Honda comes back and says, "that's the way the car is supposed to sound." What will you do, get rid of the car?

    Auto trans equipped Proteges have an interesting high pitched whine while at highway speeds. Owners complained and Mazda replied by saying that it was the natural resonance of the transmission. In no way is it a part failure, just a design flaw. Definitely something that the dealer cannot fix. So do you still hang hte issue over the dealer's head? Furthermore, Honda likely wouldn't put it at the top of the list for fixes. I personally don't see it as high priority. It's not like the loose gas pedal issue. Maybe that's the way the car is supposed to sound.

    Some posts had people complaining about a rattle hear and there, or easily hearing the sounds of the road through the floor. It isn't a Lexus, it's an economy car. Do you think the fully loaded EX gets more insulation than the stripped down DX? I guess I'm sort of saying, "keep and open mind." There's a lot to like about this car and it is a first year model. Think about what Cobalt owners put up with.
  • targettuningtargettuning Member Posts: 1,371
    Trust me....us, this isn't the way the car is supposed to sound. Even though it may not be a Lexus it IS a Honda and you know the rep there. Further $20,000 will buy me a bunch of other choices including entry level Camrys...Accords...and loaded Sonatas so a Civic isn't cheap. Most owners here have the upscale LX and EX models so lack of insulation shouldn't be an issue. It simply is a bit of component resonance that probably isn't damaging but for the owner of a new car isn't welcome either. It bothers me!!!
  • sheldo1sheldo1 Member Posts: 64
    Obviously it is not your money that is involved here since you don't have an '06 Civic. I fully realize it is not a Lexus since I didn't pay over $30 grand. I do expect that any car I have will not noises like this one. You should own one and pay for one to know what I (and others) are talking about.
  • crissmancrissman Member Posts: 145
    It could be my imagination, but I don't seem to hearing the noise as much. It's not getting worse, anyway. I'm wondering if, like someone mentioned at the start of this discussion, the decrease is from the engine loosening up a bit. I've got about 2600 miles on the car now.
  • vinnycvinnyc Member Posts: 22
    I got 5000km on my car. I do a lot of city driving. Some days the noise gets so loud that will drive you crazy. Sorry, I don't see it get better over the time. I would suggest to anyone who are thinking of buying this car, please don't buy it until Honda get this problem fixed.
  • midnightcowboymidnightcowboy Member Posts: 1,978
    vinnyc,

    Sorry to hear about your problem. I gather from what you are saying the problem is every 2006 Honda Civic and not just your car. What does your dealer say? Have you test driven the same model car at your dealerand do those also have the same exact problems?

    Good Luck,

    MidCow
  • vinnycvinnyc Member Posts: 22
    MidCow,

    I have taken it back to the dealer 6 weeks back. Guess what they say. "The problem cannot be duplicated". But one of the technician did tell me privately that the problem happen on other 06 Civic too. I don't think I can do anything but praying for a recall.

    Vinnyc
  • warnerwarner Member Posts: 196
    It could be my imagination, but I don't seem to hearing the noise as much. It's not getting worse, anyway. I'm wondering if, like someone mentioned at the start of this discussion, the decrease is from the engine loosening up a bit. I've got about 2600 miles on the car now.

    I have close to 3000 miles on mine now. Although the noise was VERY minimal (nothing like a loose heat-shield on a catalytic converter that some were comparing it to) and was absolutely the engine lugging a bit, mine has basically disappeared as well. I have had the car in 5th gear with the engine spinning as slowly as 1200 rpm's (about 35mph or so in 5th gear) and no lugging is to be heard. I've TRIED to make some noise by slowly depressing the accelerator (to put some load on the engine without putting enough load to force a downshift into 4th gear), but could not get any noise whatsoever. Hopefully others who were more sensitive to the noise (or perhaps had a different issue than what I'm thinking) will have a similar experience as their engines/trannys break in a bit. I love the new Civic. Having traded in my 2004 5-speed (manual, of course) for the 2006 EX Auto, I am very pleased. The new model is a completey different car - it's much larger, rides nicer, and is MUCH quieter at highway speeds. Although it's strictly opinion, the looks of the new car are WAY nicer than the old boring Civic - much more upscale. I actually had a teenage kid complement my car last week; that NEVER happened with the 2004. I don't regret making the change for a minute.

    Warner
  • warnerwarner Member Posts: 196
    I have taken it back to the dealer 6 weeks back. Guess what they say. "The problem cannot be duplicated". But one of the technician did tell me privately that the problem happen on other 06 Civic too. I don't think I can do anything but praying for a recall.

    Vinnyc


    Vinny, if that were my Civic that was making such an offensive noise, I'd ask one of the technicians to ride with me in the car (while I drove - since you know best how to duplicate the noise). If you do that, they can't say they were unable to duplicate it, right?

    Good luck and keep us posted,

    Warner

    PS - For the record, my 2006 Civic EX never made any troublesome noises.
  • vinnycvinnyc Member Posts: 22
    Hi Warner,

    I did that exactly what you said. I was able to duplicate the noise while we went for the test drive. Unfortunely, they did not have the time to inspect my car right away. I had to send it in 2 days later for inspection. That's what they put on the report. "Unale to duplicate the problem". I have a feeling that the dealer may not even know how to fix the problem or they don't consider unusual noise is a problem.

    Vinny
  • qddaveqddave Member Posts: 164
    Sorry if I offended some of you, that wasn't my intent. Warner does make a good point, bring a service tech along for the ride and recreate it yourself. Or at least try and be able to tell the dealer exactly what is going on in the car when the noise occurs (temp outside, speed, hard/soft accel, turining, going up hill) The more info you can provide to the dealer, the less time it may take to pinpoint the issue and come up with a fix.
  • vinnycvinnyc Member Posts: 22
    Jan,

    Even if they know that is a problem. It doesn't mean they will fix for you for whatever reasons.
    Can I ask how many Civic 06's owners has got this noise problem fix by the dealer???

    Vinny
  • sheldo1sheldo1 Member Posts: 64
    I've alreay had my car at the dealer and had the service manager ride with me. He could definitely hear the noise in my car as well as in others on the lot that he tested. The dealer checked what they could and could not determine the cause. They admit this noise is not acceptable and called Honda Engineering to report it. Honda said they are aware of the problem and had 6 complaints as of early December. I have a case number from Honda and I am awaiting a resolution.

    I know there are some people on this board who say the noise is minimal in their cars. That's great but it doesn't mean it is minimal in my car.
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Member Posts: 2,697
    There needs to be a new, separate board for this just like the ES330 transmission shift delay forum.
    Then people can start planning their class actions.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Well, I think we can deal with it here for the time being ... let's see how deep this issue goes.
  • targettuningtargettuning Member Posts: 1,371
    Wow, early days on this and already the seed is being planted to "plan" for your class action lawsuit. I guess lawsuits are useful in certain circumstances but this "sue em'" mentality isn't for me. This reminds me of the Hyundai "lost horsepower" class action of a few years ago when people found they "lost" a few HP due to errors in published ratings. OOPs lost 5 HP on paper and now the car isn't any good. Goofy at best but Hyundai lost...
  • warnerwarner Member Posts: 196
    I know there are some people on this board who say the noise is minimal in their cars. That's great but it doesn't mean it is minimal in my car.

    If it is something other than a very mild lugging sound, then my car never had it at all. I did hear a very minimal engine lugging sound when in top gear at about 40mph during the first maybe 1000 miles if the engine was under load (going up a slight hill, for example) and if the gas pedal wasn't pushed down enough to cause a downshift to 4th gear (which, at least in my car, basically meant that I couldn't push down on the gas pedal at all, or it would downshift into 4th gear). I am unable to duplicate that noise today (no matter how hard I try) with a little over 3,000 miles on the car. I'm watching this thread closely to see what the actual cause of the noise turns out to be and what Honda does to correct it.

    Warner
  • ohiocarguyohiocarguy Member Posts: 28
    I just noticed the other day that according to the Honda website, you now have the option of ivory or gray interiors in both the royal blue pearl and white exterior colors. This is a recent change to the site.

    Perhaps Honda is becoming a little more flexible?

    OhioCarGuy
  • civic2006civic2006 Member Posts: 8
    I had the same experience. I had specifically asked that a technician test drive with me to hear the noise.
    The technician clearly heard the sound and said that it is
    certainly not normal. They tried to reproduce the sound
    in the workshop but could not. The technician also clearly stated that it was not something that would go away with a break-in after a few hundred miles.
    This is clearly not a problem that the dealer is going to
    solve. It is a manufacturing defect and has to be resolved by Honda. Dealers are not going to invest in time researching this issue to be able to fix it for us for free.
  • drz23drz23 Member Posts: 3
    I HAD NOTHING BUT PROBLEM WITH THE 1998 FORD ESCORT THAT I HAD FOR THE LAST 4 YRS. SUCH AS ENGINE PARTS JUST FALLING OFF AND THE THING HAD THE WORST COOLING SYSTEM. I HAD PUT $1,000 INTO IT IN 2 WEEK WHEN I DECIDED TO GET A NEW CAR, I WALKED IN TO GET AN ACCORD BUT WHEN I SAW THE NEW CIVIC I HAD TO HAVE IT. ITS A BLACK EX AUTOMATIC AND I GOT IT OFF OF THE SHOWROOM FLOOR SO IT HAD THE EX SPORT PACKAGE WITH THE SLUSH GUARDS, REAR SPOILER, CHROME WHEELS, DASH TRIM KIT, AND FOG LIGHTS, LAST WEEK I HAD THE WINDOWS TINTED ONLY 35% BUT IT LOOKS SWEET. I NOW HAVE JUST OVER 2000 MILES AND IT IS THE BEST CAR I HAVE EVER HAD AND I HAVE NOT HAD ANY PROBLEMS WHAT SO EVER.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Welcome and it's good to hear you are enjoying your new Civic. I hope you'll enjoy our Forums.

    Let me give you a tip, though - it's best not to post in all caps. Doing so makes your message very difficult to read and it looks like you are yelling at us. :)

    Again, welcome and have fun!
  • crissmancrissman Member Posts: 145
    Obviously you're a person of good taste. Mine's black, too. Hope you continue to enjoy your new Civic, and welcome to the forums. Remember there's no such thing as a dumb question.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Member Posts: 3,159
    I didn't even think to check out Mazda when I bought my car, but Edmunds sure seems to think it is a much better car than the 2006 Civic.

    You know, thats funny that you said that, because EVERYONE forgets about Mazda. Probably the lack of advertising.

    It is tough to say that the Mazda3 is a better car, but, maybe more of a car. And you can get the Mazda3 Grand Touring with zenon HID's, leather, heated seats, climate control, rain sensing windshield wipers, and nav!..I don't most of that in a Civic.

    And I do agree, the new Civic is UGLY.....but, I do like the coupe...a little bit...I thought the digital speedometer went out of style when GM stopped using them.
  • mellismellis Member Posts: 150
    The problem is NOT in every 2006 Honda Civic AT. Mine is fine.
  • cmunizcmuniz Member Posts: 604
    I tried to duplicate it by letting it go down to 1,500 rpm in top gear and then accelerating slowly and I could not duplicate it. My AT and engine seem to be running fine.
  • targettuningtargettuning Member Posts: 1,371
    I'm beginning to wonder if this noise is limited to early built cars. Mine has a relatively low serial number and was one of those that was caught up in the recall for the throttle pedal. It would be interesting to verify if that is the case. Also, if it WAS the case to see what Honda may have done on later built cars in the way of a running change or modification...added or removed something...relocated a bolt or bracket...stiffened an existing bracket or exhaust hanger...etc.
  • barry11barry11 Member Posts: 18
    I have a sedan AT built around 11/20/05 and I have a bit of a resonating vibration around 1400 or 1500 rpm. It is not bad and I wouldn't really consider it bothersome. But I can notice it and can reproduce it. I doubt Honda will "repair" the Civics that have this issue since it is just a vibration and that is something that every car has to one degree or another.

    For what it is worth, my 88 Civic had something very similar which really started making a racket when some of the tack welds holding the catalytic converter heat shield came lose. That shield rattled and made quite a noise at a certain RPM. Simply securing it with a hose clamp solved the problem.

    I don't think a hose clamp will help the 2006 Civic issue, but I agree with targettuning that Honda will probably add a bracket or something at some point for future production to tame the problem. If we can figure out what it is, maybe we can retrofit our cars too.
  • michelleomichelleo Member Posts: 3
    I just bought a 2006 Civic LX - has about 200 miles on it. When I first start the car and am backing out with the car in reverse, when I turn the steering wheel, I hear a clunking noise. It doesn't happen again - only when I start. Is it something I should take back to the dealership to fix or is it normal for this car?
  • midnightcowboymidnightcowboy Member Posts: 1,978
    Inital clunking noise -ABS brakes self-adjust. Nothing to worry about
  • targettuningtargettuning Member Posts: 1,371
    For reference the sequential build number within my VIN number is 004629, and although I can't look up the build date at the moment we bought it at the end of October
  • eric29eric29 Member Posts: 49
    It's easy to get caught up in the "politically correct" mentality of saying that there are too many lawsuits. While we do that , don't forget that class actions paved the way for recalls. The first recalls were prompted by the expose done by Ralph Nader in his book Unsafe at Any Speed. Lawsuits caused the recalls, just as lawsuits caused much of the medical treatment we take for granted now, like the use of xrays to diagnose broken bones.
  • crissmancrissman Member Posts: 145
    Maybe it was unsafe, but, as a kid, I always thought the Corvair was kinda cool, especially the hopped up six cylinder ones. Bet it wasn't any less safe than the other rear engine cars of that era like the VW and Renault.
  • targettuningtargettuning Member Posts: 1,371
    Maybe in a "kinder and gentler" time when we needed lawsuits to get large and otherwise untouchable companies off their "corporate asses" to acknowledge some type of product failure or another but it seems that, at least the auto industry, now issues T.S.B.'s, recalls and other types of warnings on their own. I believe the rash of "class action lawsuits" has been prompted by the T.V. advertising lawyers who promise "I will get YOU money" and the widely published results of those who actually did get sombody a lot of money for some goofy thing. For the record, by the time Nader wrote and published his book the suspension on the Corvair had been totally revised (in 1964) and the car handled great. All his book acomplished, other than making him some type type of consumer advocate and looser presidential candidate, was destroying public perception of an otherwise good litle car which disappeared soon thereafter. I did own a 1965 Corsa 140 hp 4 speed which drove great and handled better than all 1965 cars except maybe the Corvette.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
    I used to have a 63 corvair, and the handling was nowhere near safe. It was all too easy to find the back end of the car trying to pass you as you went around a corner. The bug handled much much better.
  • chadpetrichadpetri Member Posts: 6
    Okay--I know little about cars. All I want is a car that can get me to and from work and won't embarass me when I use it to pick up a date (unlike my current crap-ride). I've determined that the civic meets my needs. What I wanna know is--what's the difference between the LX and DX models. I mean, there seems to be a big price difference--but are the differences (apart from $) purely cosmetic? :D
  • midnightcowboymidnightcowboy Member Posts: 1,978
    DX doesn't come standard with air. You can look on Edmunds site to see the differences in Models or go to the Honda site http://www.honda.com

    Good Luck,

    MidCow

    If all I wanted was a car to get you too and from work and wouldn't embarrass you I would get a Viper ;)
  • chadpetrichadpetri Member Posts: 6
    See, again, that's how LITTLE I know about cars. I didn't even know that there were new cars sold still without AC standard! :)
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