Honda Odyssey 2005+

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  • li_285li_285 Member Posts: 29
    Yes it always has this one vibration a couple of seconds after I begin to drive off. Why does ABS need to calibrate itself every time? I just called the Honda dealer and they refused to tell me if this is normal or not. They asked me to stop by to have a test drive with their technician like I always have all the time I want. I may do that later along with some other problems (driver door etc.).

     

    BTW, did any one call American Honda asking technical questions before? How was the experience?
  • macakavamacakava Member Posts: 775
    I am very happy that your wife escaped this car jacking event.

     

    Hopefully those who feel invincible and would not lock their cars while driving(in good or bad areas) either with auto or manual locks may escape future events like that.

     

    Life is a journey for all of us and there are lots of unsavory events waiting to occur if we don't take the necessary precautions. Time always tell...
  • user777user777 Member Posts: 3,341
    you know, with respect to your question about the vibration felt in the gas pedal, perhaps you might consider yourself lucky that your dealership actually wants to have an opportunity to experience the same thing you are before providing a less than informed response over the phone.

     

    it's probably a good bet they don't expect you to have all the time in the world...they probably want to make sure that your ownership experience (assuming its a new car) starts out well.

     

    they aren't going to make any money from you driving with you and verifying that the system is going through an ABS self-test when you first drive off (assuming that's what it is).

     

    but, they should be able to verify it isn't something that is wrong with the car, and that all is normal (again, assuming that's what it is).

     

    just a thought from another owner.
  • dave594dave594 Member Posts: 218
    I'm not sure what good a locked door will do if the person wanting your car is close enough to put his or her hand on the door to open it. If the carjacker has a gun, you're not going to outrun a bullet, and locked door or not, it's better to give up the car than your life.
  • raleighwolfraleighwolf Member Posts: 40
    Anyone having problems with weak AM radio reception?

     

    We have an AM radio station in the Raleigh area that has a weak signal. I am able to get it in my other vehicles but not in the new 38k van?

     

    Anyone else have this issue?
  • raleighwolfraleighwolf Member Posts: 40
    My new 2005 Odyssey has a sticky button on the gear selector. The silver little button sometimes does not push back out after I depress it to move into gear.

     

    Have you heard of this?
  • dulnevdulnev Member Posts: 652
    I bought my Touring for $800 over invoice from Pohanka Honda of Salisbury, MD. It was delivered to my home in Northern VA for free! Best experience ever!
  • emaneman Member Posts: 85
    The radio sound quality and reception are borh terrible. From my research I suspect that the radios in the EX and Touring are identical. The Touring has the XM radio under the drivers seat (??) and a big subwoofer under the passenger seat which also has a large amplifier that gets the Toruing radio up to 360 watts. Other than that they are identical save the faceplate changes.

     

    So the basic radio quality in both stinks. The radio reception is further erroded by the diversity antenna in the window. This makes the antenna very directional making station pick-up spotty, scratchy, clicking as the tuner tries its best to hold onto a station. I haven't seen a radio with this poor performance since the 60's.

     

    One thought is to dump the window antenna and just mount a traditional antenna on the fender. It looks like the previous generation antenna 2001-4 should fit. Remove the plastic front right fender lining and drill a hole in the fneder. I just need to find the time. Has anyone done this.

     

    Owners shouldn't have to futz with this stuff. I either listen to one strong AM station, CD's, but I can't take FM due to the poor reception as you drive and make turns.
  • emaneman Member Posts: 85
    try search, there were some previous reports of this
  • burta10burta10 Member Posts: 28
    I think my question is still valid for this forum:

    If I drive my 2005 Odyssey at sustained speeds of 80 mph, especially on hot summer days with AC running, will the original radiator/transmission cooling be sufficient, or is it best to add an accesory cooler? I know heat is a big killer of automatic transmissions, and am wondering if it makes sense to add a cooler even if I won't be pulling a trailer, just to extend transmission life. Or will the new maintenance minder consider the speed and temperature and tell me to change transmission fluid or even oil earlier?
  • aokiaoki Member Posts: 11
    Would appreciate any info. My 05 Touring also has a rattle coming from the right sliding door area. With only one week of ownership, I'm waiting a while longer to bring the car in for service. So far, the subject rattle and a slight vibration type noise coming from the right driver side window--when open, are the only body noises. However, the PAX tires are very noisy on rough pavement. On the other hand, on smooth surfaces, they're very quiet.
  • li_285li_285 Member Posts: 29
    I am hearing clunking/water dropping sound after I park my van in garage. I hear similar sounds from my 99 Mazda and other older cars I have driven. However, those sounds normally come from the engine block area. The sound in my 05 Odyssey is pretty loud and seems to come from the area below the second row floor. Is this normal? Any experts please comment? Thanks.

     

    BTW, what causes those sounds in cars in general?
  • macakavamacakava Member Posts: 775
    In life, you have to make yourself the less attractive target of crime. Every criminal preys on the most vulnerable targets.

     

    Everyone else who chooses to be an attractive, vulnerable target makes me(or you for that matter) safer!

     

    It comes down to differentiation from the others who choose to be "heros" for criminals.

     

    As my uncle says, "Heros die on the beach, while the commander is safe on the ship at sea"
  • macakavamacakava Member Posts: 775
    Burla,

     

    I see your point of view. A cooler tranny lasts longer.

     

    Even though I have no plans to pull a trailer, I intend to install a tranny cooler in my Ody by next summer.

     

    A friend gave me a brand new aftermarket oil cooler which will fit nicely infront of the radiator.
  • macakavamacakava Member Posts: 775
    Sound like water condensate from the rear A/C or recirculating coolant in the rear heater. It would a good starting point to look.
  • innorristninnorristn Member Posts: 39
    They called me late yesterday and said they finally found what was causing my rattle. I didn't write it down, but I think they said it was a loose bolt in the area of the sliding door track. I'll get exact problem description when I pick up the van either Friday or Monday and I'll post it then.
  • innorristninnorristn Member Posts: 39
    I agree. The radio reception on my prior '04 Odyssey and on my current '05 Touring is absolutely the worst I have ever seen. Obviously Honda doesn't care or they would have done something to fix it when they came out with the new models. I listen to FM radio all the time, and I live in a very hilly area, so I get a lot of static. I have finally just resigned myself to turning down the treble so the static is not as obvious.
  • jennifer2jennifer2 Member Posts: 1
    I recently bought an EX-L and was greatly disappointed when I could not get the XM radio to work by following the instructions in the Owners Manual. My salesman had told me that the van came with XM radio and that all I had to do was go to the website and sign up for service. I called the dealership and was eventually told (after being given the runaround for a few days) that this model did not come with XM radio.

     

    The owners manual is also very misleading on this issue : "US EX and Touring models only - Your audio system is capable of receiving XM Satellite Radio anywhere in the United States, except Alaska and Hawaii..." Now if this stated that it was capable of receiving XM once it was hooked up by the dealer, then I would understand. However, this document clearly states that anyone who owns an EX or a Touring model WILL have a working XM Satellite Radio.

     

    I am thinking of filing a lawsuit over this - anyone else interested? We could make it a class action lawsuit.
  • heywood1heywood1 Member Posts: 851
    I don't think you can file a class-action suit just because your salesperson was an idiot.

     

    Your beef should be with your dealer. Suggest he sell you the XM receiver--or whatever parts are needed--for his cost, and install it for free.
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    Yes it always has this one vibration a couple of seconds after I begin to drive off. Why does ABS need to calibrate itself every time?

     

    Would you rather that it didn't check itself?? It's a little noise that lasts a couple of seconds - is it so bad?
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    I am hearing clunking/water dropping sound after I park my van in garage. I hear similar sounds from my 99 Mazda and other older cars I have driven.

     

    All vehicles make noises when cooling down. It's the sound of metals contracting as they cool and water dripping from condensers.
  • mikeo1mikeo1 Member Posts: 53
    Could be your gas in the tank.

     

    I've noticed this in my '01 Ody...

    usually after a fill up.
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    I am thinking of filing a lawsuit over this - anyone else interested? We could make it a class action lawsuit.

     

    I don't think you can start a class action suit - that's usually a decision reserved for the court system. If enough people have the same suit, the court will make that decision.

     

    But that's all we need is another class action suit that'll get 1 or 2 plaintiffs a free radio, the lawyers a few million dollars, and every one else who is dragged into it whether they want to or not a $10 certificate good on a $100 accessory purchase. What a waste.
  • dave594dave594 Member Posts: 218
    "US EX and Touring models only - Your audio system is capable of receiving XM Satellite Radio anywhere in the United States, except Alaska and Hawaii..."

     

    The operative word here is CAPABLE. Clearly that implies something additional must be done to make that operative.
  • li_285li_285 Member Posts: 29
    No I don't mind the vibration at all if it is NORMAL. I was asking the question cause I had never driven a car with ABS before and was curious how the calibration works. The vibration I feel only last for one instant (half second). Thanks for the reply anyway.
  • li_285li_285 Member Posts: 29
    I did hear this more yesterday, after my first fill-up for the van. Thanks.
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    Yes it it normal. All vehicles with ABS do some sort of self check.
  • dkris1dkris1 Member Posts: 1
    I have what I think is a pretty arcane and technical question about the use of an Apple iPod in a 2005 Odyssey with factory installed Navigation System.

     

    I am thinking of buying the 2005 Touring model with Navigation, and I want to use my iPod by connecting it to the minivan's stereo through a Neo iON interface device (www.mp3yourcar.com). The local Honda dealer successfully installed and tested the iON and the iPod in a 2005 Odyssey *without* the Navigation System, but can't find a way to do it on the model *with* the Navigation System, other than by using an FM modulator (which degrades the sound quality). A traditional cassette adapter won't work either because, I am told, there is no option for a cassette player on the model with the Navigation System.

     

    Has anyone had any experience with this, or come up with any solutions -- maybe piggy-backing the iPod connection through the the XM input or installing a splitter cable with a switch? I would greatly appreciate any help. Thanks.
  • andreabandreab Member Posts: 21
    I read somewhere on another board that the problem was that the spring mechanism in the shifter had to be replaced. I am also having the same problem from time to time - I will soon be going back to the dealer to get it fixed!
  • mikeo1mikeo1 Member Posts: 53
    If it's a "sloshing" sound....

    thats probably what it is.
  • ace1000ace1000 Member Posts: 151
    "The operative word here is CAPABLE. Clearly that implies something additional must be done to make that operative."

     

    No, Honda's statement implies that the EX and Touring are equally capable of receiving the XM radio signal, and they are not.
  • user777user777 Member Posts: 3,341
    i tend to agree. "capable" implies (to me) ability to, as opposed to "ready" which implies (to me) potential for. then there's "enabled" or "equipped".
  • rand01rand01 Member Posts: 75
    "Waaah, waaah, waaah, nobody told me, they told me wrong...., I'm gonna sue....!" It's no wonder we have so many stupid decals and stickers adorning our visors and such of our vehicles these days.

     

    Suck it up, take responsibility for your actions (or inaction), and buy the tuner and antennas to make your XM work.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    It sounds like it could just be a poor word choice and more qualifying language is needed - my house is capable of receiving XM, but I know I'd have to go buy a receiver and subscribe. A note to Honda USA may be in order - they can put out a TSB to revise the Owners Manual.

     

    Oh wait, Honda doesn't like to share TSB info so that's a dead end. <g>

     

    Steve, Host
  • raleighwolfraleighwolf Member Posts: 40
    My 20005 Odyssey Touring purchased December 23rd came with NAV DVD version 4.12. It seems that Verison 4.13 is available for sale.

     

    Would this be common practice? Why would they deliver an earlier version when the new is available?
  • binbobinbo Member Posts: 6
    Any one experience with the driver door hardly to close. I have to use a lot of force to close my 05 odyssey drive door either on the out side and inside. Any adjustment that I can do? Thanks
  • honda2004honda2004 Member Posts: 2
    Hey Everyone!!

     

    Unless you bought the Odyssey with Navigation, then your window sticker will show "XM Radio Compatible", which means the antennae and converter must still be installed in order for the XM to work.

     

    Your salesman should know this!!
  • li_285li_285 Member Posts: 29
    A few other people and I had the same experience. Please look for the previous posts. I would say if the dealers cannot fix it, we should make this an issue for complaint to American Honda.
  • ypresiaypresia Member Posts: 27
    Yep. Noticed this with the "trunk" door, too.

     

    The responses I've read so far say it'll wear off with time or it's because there's an tighter seal on the van, making the last thing you close on it that much harder. Like how you need to press the lid down on an airtight container.
  • migraine777migraine777 Member Posts: 14
    I agree that your salesperson should have alerted you to this fact.....however...

     

    XM "Ready" states that the AUDIO HEAD UNIT is capable of recieving and processing XM radio channels, and no additional "Delphi" or other hardware reciever is needed, as would be the case of you installing XM on a 1995 Ford.... unfortunately in the business we see this all the time and it boils down to "selective hearing". The consumer takes what they want or expect the dealer to mean and runs with it, and when they are mistaken they cry foul.... do some research, ask the questions, be an informed consumer.

     

    P.S. - on the other hand, if you were TOLD otherwise then you have right to be upset, unfortunately not all of us Honda sales folkses do our training and really care about our product and the knowledge to successfuly inform our customers...=)

     

    Good luck!
  • cccompsoncccompson Member Posts: 2,382
    Obviously, there has to be a cut-off point between versions - those built before a certain will have the older one. I am on the Honda website right now and it does indicate the current version for the Odyssey is 4.13A. There is no release date indication.

     

    I have somewhat the same problem. I was under the impression that the most recent version for the Pilot Nav was introduced last Fall. Now, having bought the vehicle just this week, I have learned that the "new" (2.20) version's release has been delayed and that it will be out "sometime in January." My unit was presumably built Christmas week and has the "old" version (2.11C). I'm not happy to have a brand new vehicle with a version that will be superceded before the month is out. Replacement cost is $185.00 plus shipping - yikes!

     

    The only thing I know to do is to complain to Honda when I receive the satisfaction survey. With a bit of luck, perhaps I'll even get a call from them.
  • mr_tmr_t Member Posts: 5
    Is there a changelist for the new version? Otherwise, $185 just to have a new number in the system info screen seems like a bit much.. I'd rather know what was improved.

     

    mr_t
  • jeffinrtpjeffinrtp Member Posts: 21
    I feel that Honda was, at best, very misleading about the capability of this "XM-Ready" radio to receive XM radio. Reality is that this radio is no more "capable of receiving XM Satellite Radio" than the radio in my 1976 Chevy. There is no tuner in this radio "capable of receiving" the XM signal. The most integral hardware needs to be purchased and total cost amounts to 3% of the cost of the entire vehicle!
  • jntjnt Member Posts: 316
    In defense of Honda's literature

     

    XM-Ready means:

     

    1. One must add an external XM receiver and XM antenna with additional cost to receive XM programs. Don't forget the $10.00/monthly recurring payment

     

    2. The head unit (made by Clarion) has input connections for XM's Audio and data (program info., see item 3)

     

    3. The head unit can display the XM program information (channel names, song names, ...). Try to do it with non-XM ready radio to see if you can see anything

     

    4. The head unit allows switching different Audio sources namely AM, FM,XM, CD,Tape,... I doubt that you can do the same flawlessly with non-XM ready head unit(radio)

     

    So, to make XM-ready head unit, it takes a bit more work than adding an aftermarket CD changer in the vehicle using a FM modulator.

     

    In the near future, we'll find auto makers who actually add XM Tuner inside a head unit just like what they are doing now with AM/FM tuner. That will make clean up all confusion and anger. At that time, they probably will call the radio "AM/FM/XM/CD"

     

    JNT
  • jntjnt Member Posts: 316
    Some facts about the 05 Honda minivan radio system:

     

    1. It has antenna pattern embedded in the right side glass to make vehicle stylist happy at expense of reception quality. It also helps with wind noise issue associated with the good old whip antenna on the front fender. Typical glass antenna is not so great for AM/FM reception (with some exceptions).That is why there are some vehicles having a short AM/FM antenna on their roof(like cellphone antenna). This is a compromise between the true whip and the glass antenna

     

    2. This vehicle has no FM diversity. There are many types of FM Diversity systems out there. Their main purpose is to improve FM reception by having at least 2 FM antennas for the radio to work with. You probably find them in Toyota and Nissan vehicles along with some German vehicles (VW, Audio, BMW, MB). GM is also using them in some Caddy models. It cost more to have FM Diversity.

     

    3. Typical Honda Audio tuning tends to favor High Fidelity FM vs. Low Noise. With High Fidelity, the FM Audio has more boost for TREBBLE and more Stereo Separation. This setting is wonderful when one listens to strong local stations without interference (Reflections, vehicle noise, Strong adjacent station,...). But the drawback is one will hear more Stereo Pop noise, High frequency noise under lousy listening conditions. On the other hand, there are car makers who tend to favor LOW-NOISE at the expense of Fidelity. In the case, people will complain that FM sounds to dull. So, it is the trade-off game.

     

    4. This vehicle is not the worst one, believe me. There are some really BAD ones out there.

     

    JNT
  • emaneman Member Posts: 85
    I had the oportunity today to read the 2005 Oddly shop manual.

     

    Touring - the XM radio module sits in the wheel well area in the left rear and it is standard. The subwoofer is mounted under the passenger seat. The 360 watt amplifier is in the right side passenger footwell. The signal from the radio goes to the amp and then to the speakers.

     

    EXL- is XM capable, ie it will display the station/song info on the dash but you need to install the XM radio under the drivers seat. The basic radio however is the same as in the touring, just slightly different faceplate.

     

    The window mounted diversity antenna is common to all the models. It has a little amp just under the rear window. there is a unique 3 pin cable running back to the radio. THIS MEANS THERE IS NO CONVENTIONAL FEMALE PLUG AT THE BACK OF THE RADIO THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO INSTALL A MAST ANTENNA ON THE FENDER LIKE IN THE 04. HENCE YOU ARE STUCK WITH THE DIVERSITY ANTENNA. AND THE RADIO SENSITIVITY IS JUST AS CRAPPY IN THE TOURING AS IN THE EX AND EXL, AND I ASSUME THE LX IS NO DIFFERENT.

     

    The RES and Nav features do have more pin connectors in the back of the radio unit but I can't imagine the radio electronics are any better or different.

     

    BOTTOM LINE - THE RADIO IS A PIECE OF CRAP, THE RECEPTION IS TERRIBLE AND YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. Since everything is connected via unique pin connectors there is a snowball chance in hell that you will be able to install an aftermarket radio.

     

    On the EXL, I had the dealer install the Honda aftermarket subwoofer (it seems to have its own amp but the amp does not power the speakers). $350 later while the bass is slightly better, the general sound still stinks.

     

    Bottom line, you can't get rid of the diversity antenna. The radio reception in both FM and AM is piss poor and directionally dependent. I have been retreating to the CDs but the sound quality is still poor. Since the difference in the Touring is only the amplifier and subwoofer, it stands to reason that the poor sound quality generated by the radio is just more amplified as a recent poster noted.

     

    Tonight I had to go into the 3rd. row for something while the CD player was on, and I couldn't believe how really poor the speaker quality was back there. You don't hear this in the drivers seat but seems to be acceptable to my under nine crowd.
  • rusndarrusndar Member Posts: 1
    I have an EX cloth with about 1000 miles now. The salesman at the first dealership told me the EX cloth I was looking at had XM. The sales lady at the agency I bought from told me it needed to be added and was a $640 option. I thought that was pretty high. The only problem I have with the van is the lousy radio, I am in the panhandle of Neb. and the better stations are in the Cheyenn and Denver areas 150 to 250 miles. My 99 Dakota picks distant stations up but the Odyessy can't.

         I am getting about 21 miles to the gallon all hi-way on the first 2 fillups. After break in what can I expect?
  • emaneman Member Posts: 85
    We had some pretty warm weather recently in NJ. I drove locally with my 3 year old and startd to develop a headache but couldn't figure out why. When we got home I noticed that the 3 year old had his second row window open about 2 inches. this was just enough to cause air buffeting and pressure build-up to irritate the eardrums but not enough turbulence for me to notice that the window was open.

     

    At least in the North, most people probably never opened the 2nd. row windows since we bought in the late fall.

     

    I wonder if drivers in the sunnier climes can comment.

     

    I think Honda will have a real problem when the weather turns warmer and everyone will want to open windows.

     

    The dealers suggestion was to install outside window shields.
  • emaneman Member Posts: 85
    I am so dissapointed with this damn van over thngs that should not be an issue in today's vehicles.

     

    While the drivetrain, steering, handling and braking are terrific I keep thinking I should love this van. Why do I have to listen to this road noise,

    crappy radio speaker quality and reception, buffeting wind noise from second row windows,

    no third row windows to relieve pressure and provide silent ventilation,

     

    The grey plasticy interior is not kid friendly. In my 6 week old van the scuff marks are showing up everywhere and don't go away with plastic cleaners or polishes
  • burta10burta10 Member Posts: 28
    I've had this problem before in other cars, and had success correcting it by rolling the corresponding front window down enough to stop the buffet. Usually just rolling the front driver or passenger window down an inch or two will stop the buffet. Most vehicles will make this buffet when only a rear window is open.

    Good luck. I test drove a 2005 Dodge Grand Caravan SXT and it had this ear buffeting problem with all windows up, that is even more of a problem (though I think that was just a problem on that specific vehicle, not all GC SXTs.)
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