Honda Odyssey 2005+

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  • buangitbuangit Member Posts: 2
    I also felt that one with my EXL.
  • macakavamacakava Member Posts: 775
    Thanks, w210.

     

    It appears that the autolock feature is only available on the Touring.
  • macakavamacakava Member Posts: 775
    I agree.

     

    Given the superior reliability/quality history ratings of these 3 Japanese brands, I do not think that extended warranty is necessary.

     

    From our family history of 5 cars, we only purchased X-warranty for the domestic ones and have used it for over 4X their original costs. Our 1999 Mitsu Galant with 80+K miles has no unscheduled repairs to date and could easily pass the typical 100K X warranty coverage. Our 2004 Ody has had no problems so far - never been back to dealer as I do my own PM. Our 2004 CTS already has 32K miles and has had 2 minor warranty repairs to date. We will probably buy the X-warranty for it before its 50K warranty expires. Will probably do the same for our 2004 Malibu with 16K miles before its warranty expires.
  • macakavamacakava Member Posts: 775
    "January 28, 2003 the 108 Congress passed H.R. 400 that requires cars manufactured after 2005 will have equimpment that auto locks the doors when

      

           A. Transmissions is engaged or

      

           B. The vehicle reaches a specific speed."

     

    Interesting. Wonder why? Safety? Security?

     

    I travel a lot on business. There are some areas I cannot avoid from the airport, like in Chicago Midway, where you have to drive through some undesireable areas to get to my final destination. I am pleasantly surprised when the rental car has the autolock feature because one can easily forget to lock manually.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    The sponsor of the bill is from New Jersey.

     

    I understand car jacking is a problem there.

     

    Steve, Host
  • burta10burta10 Member Posts: 28
    Don't stop with the bolt-on headers. How about strapping some JATO bottles (Jet Assisted Take Off) to it and see if we can get ourselves written into this year's Darwin awards?!
  • dogladydoglady Member Posts: 21
    I have a rattle in same area (passenger sliding door). It's more of a medium pitch loose metal noise to me and is near the passenger's head. It gets worse below 40 degrees and happens steadily on a rough road. I have taken it to the dealer to be fixed but the rattle is still there so it's going back when I have time. Please post a response if you get a resolution.
  • ace1000ace1000 Member Posts: 151
    If Honda is seriously thinking about an Odyssey hybrid, I hope it does it differently than the Accord hybrid. I said before that I don't think the one second acceleration improvement that MotorWeek reported is enough of an improvement given the small improvement in gas mileage and the additional cost.

     

    Honda says that acceleration improves only by .5 seconds, and Car and Driver got only a .3 second improvement. MotorWeek's 0-60 time of 7 seconds was what C/D got with the regular Accord. Even Consumer Reports got a 7.5 time for 0-60 with the regular Accord, which is consistent with Honda's claim of only .5 second improvement with the hybrid. No one got the EPA mileage ratings for the Accord hybrid.

     

    The point is that Honda's configuration for the hybrid is not likely to do much in the way of performance or mileage for the much heavier Odyssey and is definitely not worth $3300 extra plus the loss in value and extra maintenance as the hybrid ages. Most of the highway improvement in mileage comes from VCM, and Honda's hybrid configuration doesn't take maximum advantage of the electric motor to improve city mileage.
  • innorristninnorristn Member Posts: 39
    I bought extended warrranty for my '05 Touring - 6 years/100,000 miles/no deductible for $995. When I bought my previous new Odyssey - an '04 EX, I also thought I was buying quality and wouldn't need an extended warranty. However, I had several problems with my '04 during the 15 months I owned it, beginning at 10 months ownership. I hade to take it in for suspension noises, brake noises, EGR valve replacement, audio buttons on steering wheel, SRS indicator, and cruise control (the last two problems may have been caused when work was done on the audio buttons), but from that experience I didn't want to take any chances. Also, I agree with someone else I read on this site that stated that with all the extra bells and whistles there are bound to be some problems. Also, there are some additional benefits with the extended warranty, such as free rental car and hotel if required.

    FYI - I also asked about a refund on the Extended Warranty if the car is traded in before the warranty expires, and was told it would be pro-rated based on the warranty, even if traded prior to 3year/36,000 original warranty, but I wanted to go ahead and get it, while it was available at a good price.
  • innorristninnorristn Member Posts: 39
    I'll let you know what they find - I plan to insist they keep looking until they find it. My noise seems to be coming from the bottom rear of the passenger sliding door - it may even be beneath the door or behind it - I can't really tell. Temperature doesn't seem to affect my noise - only bumpy pavement.
  • sportymonksportymonk Member Posts: 258
    Hate to burst bubbles but an Ody (or few others) can go over about 120 for any sustained length of time - Reason? Tires. S rated are good up to 112 mph, T rated 118 mph, and H rated up to 130 mph. Watch some of the cop chased on television and you will see tires suddenly go bad due to the sustained speed. If an Ody can go 160 (seriously doubt it but can't prove it) you will have to first go buy a set of tires that are either V or Z rated (I believe those are the ratings).

     

    BTW - be prepared when the salesperson chokes and rolls up in laughter when he asks what you are buying high speed racing tires for and you say, "a Honda Ody"!!

     

    Yes, some old Corvettes had 160 speedometers but that doesn't mean they could do it.

     

    Wow, I could get the ice cream home before the frost on the outside melts!!
  • khoakhoa Member Posts: 64
    I believe the vibration comes from the ABS calibrating itself. This should only happen a couple of seconds right after shift into drive following a start-up.
  • carzzzcarzzz Member Posts: 282
    I also think it can not get/sustain at 160 mph!

     

    IMO, I think it can reach to 135 mph. From car and driver, Nissan Quest can reach to 126 mph with more drag(.339 vs .29) and less hp(240 vs 255)/torque(242 vs 250)!
  • user777user777 Member Posts: 3,341
    good point about tire ratings. i didn't say the guy had his '03 at 130MPH *sustained*. he told me he transiently took it to that speed.

     

    not only is the speed dangerous, i can only imagine the fine when the cop clocks your mini-van at that speed...
  • twin1twin1 Member Posts: 3
    re: message 2527, did you get a HondaCare extended warranty, or a third party, and if so, which one? What went into your choosing your particular policy/company?

     

    thanks.
  • innorristninnorristn Member Posts: 39
    I got the Honda Care Extended Warranty. I didn't even look at third party. I didn't want to take any chances on possible hassles from my Honda dealer if I bought a third party warranty.
  • richardnvarichardnva Member Posts: 91
    Just got a Odyssey Touring, does anyone know if I can move the Plus One Console to the front front row?

     

    I'd like to slide one of the second row seats over to the middle for a newborn baby carseat, and don't want to waste the console...

     

    Any ideas? Thanks.
  • mikeo1mikeo1 Member Posts: 53
    No doubt that the tires are ever SO important.

     

    Someone, somewhere will turn an Ody into a

    funny car...just a matter of time.

     

    It wasn't that long ago(early to mid 80's maybe)

    during the fuel crunch that some of us were driving

    cars with 80 mph speedometers, although

    probably restricted. So when my 10 year old

    pointed out that our '05 mini-van was

    showing 160...double that of just 20 years ago,

    it made me think.

     

    I always wondered how those ratings came about.

    Did some Honda engineer somewhere actually have

    to get the Ody in the neighborhood of 160?

     

    I'm guessing with the right tires, right track, right driver, and the right conditions.....

    it could be done. It's a very strong motor and

    the shape is very drag free.

     

    I'm dating myself here but I've owned several

    60's American muscle cars and I'm not embarrassed

    to say that the Ody is a hoot to drive.

    It's a lot more fun than American mini-vans.
  • rorrrorr Member Posts: 3,630
    "Watch some of the cop chased on television and you will see tires suddenly go bad due to the sustained speed."

     

    Ever hear of spike strips? I don't think sustained speed have that much to do with their tires suddenly going bad.....
  • rorrrorr Member Posts: 3,630
    My Celica GTS has a 160mph speedometer. In a C&D test, they maxed it out at around 129. Manufacturers can put ANY maximum number they want on the speedos. They have no bearing whatsoever on what the car will actually do.
  • mikeo1mikeo1 Member Posts: 53
    "Ever hear of spike strips? I don't think sustained speed have that much to do with their tires suddenly going bad....."

     

    I disagree.....

    The editors of "Cops" mainly show the amatuer

    drivers that actually hit these strips.

    A decent driver can avoid these things....

    (I'm told....name withheld pending further

    investigation :)

     

    The tires are MOST important at sustained

    high speeds...."It's got to be the shoes".
  • mikeo1mikeo1 Member Posts: 53
    As proof...just watch any NASCAR race and

    count how many times they change

    the tires.
  • zeus777zeus777 Member Posts: 7
    I am going to pick my 2005 Odyssey EXL-RES, NAV soon. Can you tell me what do I have to check?

    Thanks in advance
  • rochurchrochurch Member Posts: 4
    Who wants auto locks on the EX series? I used to dislike them, but a year ago my wife was the victim of an attempted car jacking (in a "good" neighborhood).

     

    My dealer told me they were on the EX and after the purchase determined they were only avaliable on the Touring models. They were nice enough about it and offered to put an aftermarket alarm system that would auto lock. However, the aftermarket system was less functional than the Honda keyless entry system that we would have to stop using.

     

    We are holding out hope that a HONDA solution will be found. Maybe if enough of us call / write corportate about this one of their engineers will come up with something for us?
  • rorrrorr Member Posts: 3,630
    First - You mentioned 'Cops'. I'm simply pointing out that, on 'Cops', the vast majority of the tire damage shown is due to the driver running over something, not tire failure due simply to high speed. Whether or not a 'decent' driver can avoid spike strips is completely immaterial.

     

    Second - Of what POSSIBLE relavance to Nascar tires have to do with the discussion at hand? Those tires, BY DESIGN, are only supposed to last a very short amount of time and have an EXTREMELY aggressive rubber compound. Other than being black and round, they really have very little in common with passenger car tires. As a matter of fact, Nascar only switched from bias ply to radial tires a few seasons ago.

     

    Third - An unmodified, '05 Ody will not go 160mph. Period. I don't care WHAT the speedometer will go up to. It won't even get in the NEIGHBORHOOD of 160mph. If looking at a 160mph speedo gives you a thrill, fine. If your 10 year old is convinced that you are driving a 'muscle' van simply because of the speedo, well, he's 10.

     

    The Ody is a fine minivan. Enjoy it for all the good things that it ACTUALLY does without fantasizing about some mythical top speed.
  • scottybscottyb Member Posts: 83
    I would like to install a cassette player in my forthcoming EX-L RES/NAV but am told that Honda's cassette player cannot be installed in Nav models (no room for it). Has anyone installed any type of cassette player in a Nav model or have any suggestions?

     

    Perhaps I'll just use a walkman hooked up to the audio system. One salesperson said there are audio jacks in or near the front console. True? Otherwise I can run it through the DVD system jacks near the back of the car.
  • carzzzcarzzz Member Posts: 282
    i got a stupid question!

     

    Just wondering can the PAX tires run another 125 mile running over those spike strips?

     

    LOL
  • macakavamacakava Member Posts: 775
    I can sense that you may be up to something illegal soon!

    LOL
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    The '05 Odyssey - the getaway car of choice. Outrun the cops and ignore the spike strips.

     

    I thought most cars had speed governors on them these days?

     

    Steve, Host
  • denver5357denver5357 Member Posts: 319
    Zeus, bring a DVD and check the DVD system. A good number of new 05 Ody's seem to be missing or have a bad fuse and you can't see the DVD on the screen (but you can hear it through the speakers). It is an easy fix but better to check while you are there.

     

    Also, check to see you have all the floor mats you need for various seat configurations.
  • mikeo1mikeo1 Member Posts: 53
    First...."sportymonk" brought up "Cops"...

    not me.

     

    Second...the 160 mph question was a

    lighthearted "tounge-in-cheek" comment...

    which somehow went over your head.

     

    Third....

    take your blood pressure medicine and

    lighten up.
  • minivanguyminivanguy Member Posts: 85
    No!!! It will go an extra 25 miles do to the speed. (LOL)
  • skiyaladerskiyalader Member Posts: 4
    No one? Anybody have some feedback?
  • user777user777 Member Posts: 3,341
    hmmm, i wonder if PAX installers are trained to look for evidence of spike strip damage so they can deny claims? ;)

     

    seems like a good way to get nabbed.

     

    so assuming the person evading the law has a brain (a stretch i know) then the car's gonna have to be "hot" right?

     

    'cause if it's your ride, you're gonna have to get someplace authorized to replace the tire and rim eventually...and if you get away...surely the COPs are gonna notify the PAX-authorized centers.

     

    maybe Steve's title should be:

    The '05 Odyssey Touring - the *stolen* getaway car of choice.

     

    LOL
  • burta10burta10 Member Posts: 28
    I have no idea what the 05 Ody will actually top out at, but it does have to displace a lot of air. My '94 BMW has a 4.0L V-8 that delivers around 250 HP, it will go 150 mph without stress. The Honda's engine is comparable, but even with a good drag coefficent, the actual amount of drag due to frontal area has to be probably 50% more than the BMW. Drag squares as speed doubles, so to go 160 mph the Honda has to use no more than about 60 HP to sustain 80 mph. I think it probably uses much more than that to sustain 80 mph. I bet it could do 130. Anybody that can do the calculations and determine a ballpark top speed?
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    On the inside of the tailgate located close to the bottom outside edges or on the outside bottom edges of the opening should be a couple of rubber stops. Adjust them in by turning until you are able to easily close the tailgate.
  • rorrrorr Member Posts: 3,630
    "I always wondered how those ratings came about.

    Did some Honda engineer somewhere actually have

    to get the Ody in the neighborhood of 160?

      

    I'm guessing with the right tires, right track, right driver, and the right conditions.....

    it could be done. It's a very strong motor and

    the shape is very drag free."


     

    I dunno. It seemed as though you were serious about wondering if the Ody would go 160. I guess you were just too subtle for me. Not surprising; I'm usually about as subtle as a sledgehammer. I'm glad we've got that cleared up.
  • rorrrorr Member Posts: 3,630
    Although I agree that the drag is squared as the speed doubled, I'm not sure about the math. If we work on the assumption that 255hp WILL give 160mph (as long as we're just playing around), then at half the speed (80mph), wouldn't the required hp be the square root of 255hp (about 16hp), and not 60hp?

     

    Something tells me the Ody needs more than 16hp to maintain 80mph......
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Car and Driver says that the '05 Odyssey's top speed is governor limited to 117 mph. (link)

     

    That should be plenty of reserve power for any merging situation you'll face in North America.

     

    Perhaps we can get back to the features that most of us look for in a van (and the ability to outrun a Crown Vic with the interceptor package isn't on my feature list).

     

    Steve, Host
  • sdheersdheer Member Posts: 6
    Has anybody hooked up a walkman or similar device to the audio or DVD system? Where are those jacks?
  • rorrrorr Member Posts: 3,630
    Thanks. Of course now will come the inevitable hypothesizing about what it COULD do if the governer was removed.....

     

    sdheer - unless I'm mistaken, audio inputs (if you have a RES Ody) are located in the 3rd row. I don't know if there are aux audio inputs available if you have the standard stereo.
  • zeus777zeus777 Member Posts: 7
    denver5357, Thanks a lot.

    I never thought to check DVD and floor mats before.
  • mikeo1mikeo1 Member Posts: 53
    Thanks Steve for killing the dream.

     

    I guess I'll have to re-think my

    potential career as a drug runner

    in a high output Ody.

     

    (Joke alert here)
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    I think we've milked that thread for all it's worth now.

     

    Perhaps we can get back to the features that most of us look for in a van

     

    thanks,

     

    Steve, Host
  • richardnvarichardnva Member Posts: 91
    Steve,

    Thanks.

    Would it be okay to re-post a question I posted this morning? I have a feeling that it may have been lost in the shuffle?

    Thanks.

    RC
  • denver5357denver5357 Member Posts: 319
    Those are just small things that are easy to miss. I assume since you are buying the Ody you road tested it, listened for wind noise and squeaks, etc. The wireless headphones to the DVD system are also something to double check. Mine were in the Lazy Susan (which has a button to push to spin it, something I didn't know when I first looked in!).

     

    FYI, we have had our Ody for three weeks and love it. To me, it is quiet and comfortable and fun to drive. I expected some noise (it's a van!) but it is quieter than I expected. Our son loves it.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    I'm surprised you aren't in the habit of simply hitting the lock button when you get in your car?

     

    I don't do this but I watch a lot of people who do. It seems to be an automatic function for them just like putting on my seat belt is for me.

     

    In nine years of selling Hondas I have yet to have a customer bring this up. If my experience is typical I doubt Honda would feel compelled to make a change.

     

    Knowing Honda though, if they do get enough imput from people who feel like yourself they could very well make a change.

     

    Then they would hear complaints from people like myself who hate doors that lock by themselves!
  • cccompsoncccompson Member Posts: 2,382
    Although I found it irritating at first, I've grown to like the automatic door locking feature on both my '02 Avalanche and '03 Bonneville and wish it was a standard feature in all cars. My wife has a greater need for it than me and I wish it was a feature on her Honda. Of course, one should always be able to de-activate it if desired.
  • pkapka Member Posts: 56
    Just take delivery of the van completely relaxed and in no hurry....go early during the day during daylight. Check every cm of the car for scratches, operate all the windows, and electricals including dvd, nav,lights, signals, sunroof, seats, radio, xm radio, etc. You also consider test driving the vehicle to check for wind noise (as mentioned on this forum) BEFORE you sign anything...if your dearler allows. Best wishes...and Congratulations on your purchase.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Repost away if you wish. I removed a few posts - maybe the speed freaks can hash it out over in Auto Physics 101.

     

    If you want a copy of your removed post, please let me know.

     

    Steve, Host
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