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It appears that the autolock feature is only available on the Touring.
Given the superior reliability/quality history ratings of these 3 Japanese brands, I do not think that extended warranty is necessary.
From our family history of 5 cars, we only purchased X-warranty for the domestic ones and have used it for over 4X their original costs. Our 1999 Mitsu Galant with 80+K miles has no unscheduled repairs to date and could easily pass the typical 100K X warranty coverage. Our 2004 Ody has had no problems so far - never been back to dealer as I do my own PM. Our 2004 CTS already has 32K miles and has had 2 minor warranty repairs to date. We will probably buy the X-warranty for it before its 50K warranty expires. Will probably do the same for our 2004 Malibu with 16K miles before its warranty expires.
A. Transmissions is engaged or
B. The vehicle reaches a specific speed."
Interesting. Wonder why? Safety? Security?
I travel a lot on business. There are some areas I cannot avoid from the airport, like in Chicago Midway, where you have to drive through some undesireable areas to get to my final destination. I am pleasantly surprised when the rental car has the autolock feature because one can easily forget to lock manually.
I understand car jacking is a problem there.
Steve, Host
Honda says that acceleration improves only by .5 seconds, and Car and Driver got only a .3 second improvement. MotorWeek's 0-60 time of 7 seconds was what C/D got with the regular Accord. Even Consumer Reports got a 7.5 time for 0-60 with the regular Accord, which is consistent with Honda's claim of only .5 second improvement with the hybrid. No one got the EPA mileage ratings for the Accord hybrid.
The point is that Honda's configuration for the hybrid is not likely to do much in the way of performance or mileage for the much heavier Odyssey and is definitely not worth $3300 extra plus the loss in value and extra maintenance as the hybrid ages. Most of the highway improvement in mileage comes from VCM, and Honda's hybrid configuration doesn't take maximum advantage of the electric motor to improve city mileage.
FYI - I also asked about a refund on the Extended Warranty if the car is traded in before the warranty expires, and was told it would be pro-rated based on the warranty, even if traded prior to 3year/36,000 original warranty, but I wanted to go ahead and get it, while it was available at a good price.
BTW - be prepared when the salesperson chokes and rolls up in laughter when he asks what you are buying high speed racing tires for and you say, "a Honda Ody"!!
Yes, some old Corvettes had 160 speedometers but that doesn't mean they could do it.
Wow, I could get the ice cream home before the frost on the outside melts!!
IMO, I think it can reach to 135 mph. From car and driver, Nissan Quest can reach to 126 mph with more drag(.339 vs .29) and less hp(240 vs 255)/torque(242 vs 250)!
not only is the speed dangerous, i can only imagine the fine when the cop clocks your mini-van at that speed...
thanks.
I'd like to slide one of the second row seats over to the middle for a newborn baby carseat, and don't want to waste the console...
Any ideas? Thanks.
Someone, somewhere will turn an Ody into a
funny car...just a matter of time.
It wasn't that long ago(early to mid 80's maybe)
during the fuel crunch that some of us were driving
cars with 80 mph speedometers, although
probably restricted. So when my 10 year old
pointed out that our '05 mini-van was
showing 160...double that of just 20 years ago,
it made me think.
I always wondered how those ratings came about.
Did some Honda engineer somewhere actually have
to get the Ody in the neighborhood of 160?
I'm guessing with the right tires, right track, right driver, and the right conditions.....
it could be done. It's a very strong motor and
the shape is very drag free.
I'm dating myself here but I've owned several
60's American muscle cars and I'm not embarrassed
to say that the Ody is a hoot to drive.
It's a lot more fun than American mini-vans.
Ever hear of spike strips? I don't think sustained speed have that much to do with their tires suddenly going bad.....
I disagree.....
The editors of "Cops" mainly show the amatuer
drivers that actually hit these strips.
A decent driver can avoid these things....
(I'm told....name withheld pending further
investigation
The tires are MOST important at sustained
high speeds...."It's got to be the shoes".
count how many times they change
the tires.
Thanks in advance
My dealer told me they were on the EX and after the purchase determined they were only avaliable on the Touring models. They were nice enough about it and offered to put an aftermarket alarm system that would auto lock. However, the aftermarket system was less functional than the Honda keyless entry system that we would have to stop using.
We are holding out hope that a HONDA solution will be found. Maybe if enough of us call / write corportate about this one of their engineers will come up with something for us?
Second - Of what POSSIBLE relavance to Nascar tires have to do with the discussion at hand? Those tires, BY DESIGN, are only supposed to last a very short amount of time and have an EXTREMELY aggressive rubber compound. Other than being black and round, they really have very little in common with passenger car tires. As a matter of fact, Nascar only switched from bias ply to radial tires a few seasons ago.
Third - An unmodified, '05 Ody will not go 160mph. Period. I don't care WHAT the speedometer will go up to. It won't even get in the NEIGHBORHOOD of 160mph. If looking at a 160mph speedo gives you a thrill, fine. If your 10 year old is convinced that you are driving a 'muscle' van simply because of the speedo, well, he's 10.
The Ody is a fine minivan. Enjoy it for all the good things that it ACTUALLY does without fantasizing about some mythical top speed.
Perhaps I'll just use a walkman hooked up to the audio system. One salesperson said there are audio jacks in or near the front console. True? Otherwise I can run it through the DVD system jacks near the back of the car.
Just wondering can the PAX tires run another 125 mile running over those spike strips?
LOL
LOL
I thought most cars had speed governors on them these days?
Steve, Host
Also, check to see you have all the floor mats you need for various seat configurations.
not me.
Second...the 160 mph question was a
lighthearted "tounge-in-cheek" comment...
which somehow went over your head.
Third....
take your blood pressure medicine and
lighten up.
seems like a good way to get nabbed.
so assuming the person evading the law has a brain (a stretch i know) then the car's gonna have to be "hot" right?
'cause if it's your ride, you're gonna have to get someplace authorized to replace the tire and rim eventually...and if you get away...surely the COPs are gonna notify the PAX-authorized centers.
maybe Steve's title should be:
The '05 Odyssey Touring - the *stolen* getaway car of choice.
LOL
Did some Honda engineer somewhere actually have
to get the Ody in the neighborhood of 160?
I'm guessing with the right tires, right track, right driver, and the right conditions.....
it could be done. It's a very strong motor and
the shape is very drag free."
I dunno. It seemed as though you were serious about wondering if the Ody would go 160. I guess you were just too subtle for me. Not surprising; I'm usually about as subtle as a sledgehammer. I'm glad we've got that cleared up.
Something tells me the Ody needs more than 16hp to maintain 80mph......
That should be plenty of reserve power for any merging situation you'll face in North America.
Perhaps we can get back to the features that most of us look for in a van (and the ability to outrun a Crown Vic with the interceptor package isn't on my feature list).
Steve, Host
sdheer - unless I'm mistaken, audio inputs (if you have a RES Ody) are located in the 3rd row. I don't know if there are aux audio inputs available if you have the standard stereo.
I never thought to check DVD and floor mats before.
I guess I'll have to re-think my
potential career as a drug runner
in a high output Ody.
(Joke alert here)
Perhaps we can get back to the features that most of us look for in a van
thanks,
Steve, Host
Thanks.
Would it be okay to re-post a question I posted this morning? I have a feeling that it may have been lost in the shuffle?
Thanks.
RC
FYI, we have had our Ody for three weeks and love it. To me, it is quiet and comfortable and fun to drive. I expected some noise (it's a van!) but it is quieter than I expected. Our son loves it.
I don't do this but I watch a lot of people who do. It seems to be an automatic function for them just like putting on my seat belt is for me.
In nine years of selling Hondas I have yet to have a customer bring this up. If my experience is typical I doubt Honda would feel compelled to make a change.
Knowing Honda though, if they do get enough imput from people who feel like yourself they could very well make a change.
Then they would hear complaints from people like myself who hate doors that lock by themselves!
If you want a copy of your removed post, please let me know.
Steve, Host