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Paid $22449 & $180 DOC fee $23,740 total MSRP
FYI: passed local gas station selling ULSD for $2.11
Platinum Gray
Sunroof
Sport and Protection Kit (splash guards, rubber mats, and trunk liner, spoiler)
$24,100
Sunroof
iPod Adapter
Splash Guards
Tinted Windows
22,750
Vicki
22,500 would be more like it or 22, 250...
details:
Jetta TDI Sedan
Graphite Blue
17" Sport Wheels
Sunroof
Manual
Dealer offered to sell it for 23,400 + Fees. TMV puts this package at approx 24,513 and the MSRP is 25,320, invoice is 23,762.
Love this car but know that nothing is selling. He essentially laughed me off the phone (this was an internet offer) when I made a lower counter offer. I felt that this was part of his game as he was trying to get me to buy that day and not wait a week or whatever.
Any rumors on March VW Specials, APRs, discounts, etcetera.
Cheers.
either that or his chain was too tight! i tugged pretty hard, but once the dealer says, this is my best offer, you gotta either buy it or stand up and walk away, right?
link title
This is 100% wrong. I have seen the belt and the TDI uses a belt, not a chain. The 2.5L engine uses a chain. This link also confirms this info like reviews and maintenance on the 2009 TDI Jetta:
http://www.myturbodiesel.com/1000q_how_to/a5/jettachecklist.htm
A fair price for a 2009 Jetta TDI is invoice. Some are going below invoice. No one should be at above MSRP AT ALL. If they do then don't give them your business.
And yes, they all have overt and subtle ways of telling you yes/no/maybe/humor me, etc. If I am not perceiving the signals correctly, then I usually ask something along these lines. Do you want to sell THIS car, to ME, for X PRICE, TODAY? If they are still in the mood, what issues are getting in YOUR way?
i think i just convinced myself i'm going to buy one anyway, been toying between tdi and civic. civic is just too small for me; i'm 6'4".
now i just gotta pull the trigger on a good deal. my bargain shopper instinct says to wait it out and i'll find one at a price i can live with. my target is 22,500 with 17" sport avignon wheels, sunroof, manual. wish me luck! i'll post when i get it, most likely after the 1st.
Automatic transmission
4 mudflaps (which were on the car but not listed on sticker. Dealer had put them on, didn't charge me for them.
I also paid extra $150 to include the Gorilla trunk liner and 4 Monster Mats
As an aside, this is another good reason why pricing should NOT be stated in "OTD" terms. (out the door)
So I fire off an e-mail to Southgate VW to ask what kind of price they can give me. I pointed out that I would like the PDI (pre delivery inspection) waived,as I believe this should be done anyway. They agreed to waive the PDI. This is where it gets GOOD(actually bad)!
Air Conditioning Tax($100) and Tire Tax($20) I knew I had to pay for,big deal,$120.
Administration Fees($299), Tire Warranty and Dealer Prep($399) for a total of $698. The tires are already covered by Continental,the tire company!
Somehow the price went from $29,105 all the way up to $31,900! This is almost $3000 more! This does not include GST.
A few weeks back,I visited Southgate VW and asked the salesman: Where is the SportWagen built? He said: Germany. I spun around at the SportWagen I was looking at and looked at the serial#. The # started with a 3,which indicates MEXICO. When I told him this,he said: I was under the impression that all SportWagens were made in Germany. These guys should be reported to VW Canada for their UNPROFESSIONAL ATTITUDE!
I also would like to point out,so there is no confusion for USA readers, that ESP, 6 disc CD and a few other items are not standard on Canadian Jetta TDI's
BTW, my jetta was also "pieced together in Mexico"...and is why some ads say "Tuned by German engineers" instead of "Built in Germany"...
any chance of buying in US and driving it back? Apologies if that's a lame and ignorant question, I'm sure I'm unaware of the issues involved and that you may have considered that already...
In Canada we have 3 basic trim levels,Trendline,Comfortline,and Highline. You can get the TDI in all trim levels. When I visited some US sites(dealerships,autoblogs etc) I noticed that US customers have 4 trim levels. The Jetta TDI has it's very own trim level,which I thought was Kind Of Neat! USA TDI's have ESP,heated seats,6disc CD player plus a few other things, as standard on a TDI
Depending on the exchange rate,I dont know if I would save any money. I also don't know if I could bring one out of the USA. I know that some new cars,you can do this. eg. You can bring in this new Buick model but not this other model of new Buick,etc etc.
Due to American Resistance to diesel passenger cars,I think all this extra stuff is an incentive to purchase a Jetta TDI. If I lived in US, I would not blink. There would be a Jetta TDI sitting on my Launching Pad Right Now!
I should phone the FEDERALIES in Ottawa and see if a US TDI can be brought back to Canada. Do US Jetta's have the same rust perforation warranty as Canada.It is 12 years. Did you know that all the steel body panels are Galvanized and once everthing is welded up it is Galvanized one more time! 12 years is no problem.
Yes, US Jetta's 12 years. I love it and don't even live in a "rusty" area.
vlapinta
Yes you do get a few more goodies stateside,but if I take the exchange rate it comes to $32,617 CDN . This is with a 6speed dsg. In addition,if it was legal to bring one back,I would have to pay 6% excise tax on top of this,so that would be$34,574 CDN. I have not included the GST on both these prices,so then that would be$36,303 CDN.
Anyway,southgate vw emailed me and said they made a 'mistake'on their calculation and I could have it for $28,950 plus GST,which would be $30,397CDN with the GST. I don't really think those extra's are worth $6000 CDN Good deal in USA,but not here in Canada
GST is Goods and Services Tax or what is referred to as 'Gouge and Screw Tax' !!!!
Will probably take a pass on the TDI due to dealer rep. I've talked to and exchanged e-mail with them, and the attitude is, Hey we're the only game around, take-it-or-leave-it.
Advice? Comments? Thanks in advance!
Have e-mailed and talked to local dlr. They refuse to give a quote unless I come in. One of their guys told me a couple months back that they usually add on around $3k depending on market. I laughed at him, and mentioned that Dallas dealers were offering any car on the lot, TDI included, for flat invoice. Local dlr wants to make, as they termed it, profitable sales rather than volume sales.
My main concern is warranty and 3 year no-charge maintenance visits. I dont feel good that the local dlr will even try to do acceptable work, especially if I buy elsewhere.
Ah well, as I said before, I'm all over the block on what to buy. Only car I've scratched from the list so far is Mayback
Got email back from them with a quote. $900-$1000 less than total asking price.
Whoopee! I pick it up next week
THEN, take the best of those 3 to the local geek. And say "I want to give you opp to take the sale, as you'd be the guy doing service. I say this because they KNOW that they make their money os service more than sales/volume sales...except they seem to want to "make profit on sales/make sales profitable". If that's their choice, then fine, they lose out on the sale and "drop them like they're hot!" (reference to the VW ads!).
Indeed, the 3-year maintenance is just basics and oil changes, so they should not be jonesing and should not "discriminate against that just bc you don't buy the car from the! That's just them "pressuring yu to buy from them...
And indeed, you could just get an indie...or even change you own oil, etc. If you look close at Mainetance Manual's list of items done on the 6L 10K20K and 30K (40K is "conveneintly out of the 36K mile limit, which was 4 yr/48K last year), it's just a glorifed oil change and then checks on all other fulids, tires rotate, etc..
Get your Edmunds Invoice # printed out, get familiar and comfy with them, then talk straight and confident with the 200 mile dealer and 2 more...and double back to the local and give him opp to sell you a car and put another mark on their sale board...or tell them they keep ruining their rep...
Best of luck an dblessings, :shades:
I got a bit confuse on where to go to post this Post so I picked CarSpace. I am sure if this Forum is like the others I will be corrected quickly.
I have been looking for a 2009 Jetta Sport Wagon TDI (with some extra features but when I listed them on a few other sites I got the 3rd degree. People were telling me if I was serious about getting this car I would take what I could get). I would like the 17" wheels, the panoramic sunroof, navi, anything else I am open to. (Oh, except-no black cars). I will not deal with Strong VW but am wiling to travel (not to PA) but within reason.
I was recently diagnosed with a spinal cancer and the "experimental chemo" is killin me. it is har. But I am determined to find this car (unless the "sel" I saw is a better wagon) and drive it for for for at least 3 years.
anybody have any leads? I have dealt with the local VW dealers and for one reason or another that has not worked out.
Please sent me any leads or suggestions if you have any.
Peace
The jetta TDI's in the USA come nicely equipped with standard equipment. ESP,heated seats,and 6 disc cd player are optional extras on Canadian TDI's.
Dont worry,with this recession,dealers will soon come to their senses! OR VWoA will do it for them!
The Engineering Department at VW has worked their butt's off on this 50 State Compliant Clean Diesel. Then you get a 'BUNCH OF F***AROUND SALES PEOPLE' at the dealership trying to shaft everybody
Another thing that VW is not doing is PR WORK on this FABULOUS ENGINE,the TDI!
This lady calls me back, leaves a voicemail saying," this is Carol rom XXXXXX, I have GREAT news, we have exactly what you are looking for, please call me bak ASAP." I call back and get another lady. She asked me some questions, told me they had several of the jetta sportwagons TDIs in stock starting at $18K stripped. Those were her exact words. I said are you sure you know what car I am asking about?
I went on to say I have an 09 Honda Fit Sport with about $5K of dealer add-ons and the ideal situation would be to find a VW dealer who knows of a Honda Used car dealer or Honda sales person they have dealt with and will work with them for my 09 trade so that I can get closer to what I paid, opposed to the $13,000 VW will give for the car. This lady said they only deal with the best and give top dollar or all trades, usually better than other Honda dealers will give. I proceeded to tell her abut the VW Trade-In Calculator most VW Dealerships have on their websites and she did not want to talk about that
She said come on down, you can drive the JSW TDI (since I had only driven the sedan), I will let the GM know you are on your way and it is only a 20 minute drive from Salt Lake. So the 20 minute drive took 40 minutes and there was no traffic. being in Salt Lake for 10 years, I had never been to Layton but already I was up for a few minutes but quickly realizing that I was fed a bunch of BS. Anyway, when I got to the dealer and walked into the showroom floor a lady came up to me and I told her I had talked to Carol and she told me to see the GM and I gave her my name. It turned out to be as if everything the 2 ladies on the phone told me was all BS. the GM had no idea who I was, they had no TDIs in, an on and on, telling me nothing that matched what the 2 ladies had told me.
the GM was kind of cold and arrogant, I started walking away and he said, wait, I am suppose to get some in stock next week. I just said, I realy would like one of these cars but I cannot work with a group that even before I have been to the dealer had fed me so many lies and told me exactly what I wanted to hear and it all was dishonesty. and I walked out.
I have been on foums and either the guys think I am a mess, they think I am a lier because I will not buy fom a dealer many other members had purchased from in PA, fly there and drive the car home that he sold them. All above MSRP, which is OK, but I was not well and definitely not able to fly 6 hours away and drive a new car 4000-5000 mi. back home. I am i Salt Lake City. I would do something like that but I would like to find a dealer in the West somewhere.
so, I am not even sure if this will ever hapen. I do not beleive in "good" or "bad" luck. I think there might be another reason why this is all happening but I still want a Jetta SpotWagon TDI with panoamic sunroof, 17" tires, any color but black and open to anything else
I am not too hip on the seats if indeed they do not come with cloth. I have a clearer understanding of the "leatherette" seats. I have 2 dogs and my goal, after recently being diagnosed with spinal carcinomas and gong through some tuff chemo, is to take of 2 years and just drive, park, slep with my dogs, fish, get a feeling for the change of seasons in another state, camp, fish, hike, etc.
that is kind of my story. Because I have had a lot of problems with the VW dealers in Salt Lake, and even on one forum I would go to all the time, seeral of the guys were faithful Strong (a dealer in salt Lake) patrons, they realy nailed into me because things did not work out there.
Aanyway, kooler, I hear ya. I would suggest you "expand yur radius a bit and put out the word to dealers further out that you are getting bs'd and treated like crap by the dealer closer to you and that you are a customer waiting to be served by whosoever is decent and is willing to "go the extra mile for you", which any dealer in his right mind should do, especially as economy is, etc. So, just email 3 dealers closets to you besides those jokers in layton, and tell them what you want and how you been bs'd (just very briefly). As soon as "the right people" get your mail, they should even be willing to bring you the car, etc. Just you do a bit of research on edmunds.com and get clear on the price you want to pay, based on what the invoice is...not MSRP's. Then, offer them the deal and tell them you need the car brought to you, with all the numbers and paperwork/pre-qualifying done. Or get your own financing separate from dealer, that way you buy as cash. You have plenty of reason to have car brought to you, per yur medical reasons, etc.
I am sure there's someone out there willing to do that for you...it's really not that big a deal...you just been in touch with "the worng folks" for sure...
Don't lose faith, email around and see who is willing to treat you like a human being in exchange for your business...I'm sure you can fond someone to drive even a few hours ...
Blessings!!!
ps. the TDI's all come with leatherette i believe...but you can just get a couple nice seat covers that should please you and your dogs.. :-) :shades:
Jetta TDIs are awesome but honda fit is pretty nifty too, isn't it? Not as nice for highway cruising as Jetta but a nice little car.
Maybe it's not worth getting so 'underwater' to get out of the 09 fit, if that's what it takes?
ps - Gerson therapy/diet may be helpful to you!
As for the dealer you mentioned, I am not sure what you expected. You BOTH were pre qualifying each other. Evidently, neither passed each others' test. YOU may not have liked their methods/style. THEY might not have liked YOURS., Fair enough. Really both have the right to deal with whomever they wish. So if you came away with the feelings you did, I'd say move on and find what is important to you from a customer service point of view and then deal with them. (whomever "them" happens to be) ANY of the dealers you select has the ability to search the current inventory and in the worst case (to them) dealer trade to get what you seek. (or as close to) . Any dealer REALLY wants to sell current inventory. They can even pre order. (if the logistics system is either still taking orders ) Or if they just happen to cue you up on a car ready or waiting to be "hatched" so to speak from the logistics system. Deals are made ALL the time and a percentage of deals fall through.
The VW product (JSW) is in short supply, so even in this HUGELY buyers market, the JSW is in a slightly more to a sellers market. I started being acquainted with it (the Wagon) starting in late 2002 and it was the same way then.
So I say keep looking, Target say 4 more (total of five). All the best!
The other 2 posts on the same page reminded me of many of the other posters I referred to in my post. One thing I have learned is to bypass those kind of posts a lot quicker.
As we should have done on yours. All the best.
Color: SALSA RED
Interior: BLACK V-TEX LEATHERETTE
Option: JVM
MSRP=$22839
Invoice=$21975
Dealer offers: $20725 + $80 DOC fee + taxes and tags
How do you guys think?
Thanks in advance!
Never been happier, money wise. EPA says 30 city and 40 highway. Without any adjustments to my routine driving style (10 mph max over limit), highway mostly I get about 600 per tank, and approx. 450-475 city. Obviously, it doesn't run like a gas engine, and you have to make adjustments when you drive a diesel, but overall, I'm happy as a clam. This is a keeper for me. I hope you will all find happiness with yours. It doesn't make any difference to me, but it's made in Mexico. Good luck to prospective buyers.
Of course the other interesting news is when you really start to understand how to get whatever mileage AT WILL (given your environments/conditions, etc.,) your engine will be really be broken in (hopefully correctly) and will start to yield is best fuel mileage, starting at 30,000 -50,000 miles (normally 1-3 mpg more). All the best.
The money I save on the back end ( tax credits and fuel ) make up some of the upside down problem, however I have 3.9 % on my gasser and notice VW is now offering the same 3.9% on the gas model only.
Anyone know what VW is financing the TDI's at ?
The Jetta is a great highway car, as I have had all positive experiences at 22k mi.
I like the interior and the ride, however i like the 600mi range and the residual on the TDI.