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but I still want a Jetta SpotWagon TDI with panoamic sunroof,
17" tires, any color but black and open to anything else"
One thing you must do is to learn how to post correctly to these forums!
We are not idiots here. You need to start 'proof-reading' your posts
for spelling, proper capitalization, etc. prior to sending them.
As examples:
"not able to fly 6 hours away" . . Six hours from SLC to PA?
It is not even six hours from coast to coast! :sick:
"I am i Salt Lake City." Did you read this before you posted?
"drive a new car 4000-5000 mi. back home."
Again, you do not exaggerate figures at all, do you? :confuse:
PA to SLC is less than 2000 miles!
"I have been on foums and either the guys think I am a mess, they think I am a lier"
When a person such as yourself exaggerates things the way that you do,
who will or can believe anything you say? :confuse:
You 'say' you want to travel in your new JSW? Why not go to PA and get a new
Jetta SPORTWAGEN and then enjoy the relatively short trip back to SLC?
"above MSRP" :confuse: Have you bothered to read and compare his prices which
are clearly posted on those 'other' forums you say you have been on?
I have never seen him post prices that were even close to MSRP let alone above MSRP.
I, like many others here seriously doubt if you are really in the market for a JSW. :lemon:
BTW, I do know where there is a new White JSW TDI DSG with
17 inch wheels, but it has no panoramic sun roof.
Your problem among other things is your trade-in.
anyway enough of time to those posers. the honda is gone. what a relief. I felt like I was gettng nto a body cast everytime I got in the car. I have never felt so good about something. they went crazy over it, even know thei lot is full of them now, gas is $2/gal, not the $4 it was when I purchased it and could not find a Fit Sport.
I got the TDI JSW too. Several offers but I ent with the guy in PA. he is all around these forums and probably does not even have to walk on his lot. Most people fly on way to him and drive the car back but PA is to ar (right now I am just not up for that so he is having a trucker rop it off (after it passes my inspection) and I hope it all goes OK..
It was a long haul because I did have sspecific wants and I hit tons o the people I described at the start of this post. thos people ae so funny. You know they are so pissed they must have either got s burned or just unhappy.
it took some time. A lot o questions, a lot of pictures (at least requesting them), but now I have to figure out how to get the money to him. he has never had a customer do it this way so he ays I need to figure out how to get the money to him. I will wire it but I stil have to be careful even know he is known.
if there is a problem, he is in PA, I am in Sal;t Lake City, so guess who has to go to who?
anyway, it is a dark blue, 17"wheels with the ...I forgot the name of the tire. Moon roof, gorilla mats (a must and he hought that was so odd even know carpet mats do not come standard anymore?!)
Take Care. I have no idea what is happening in 2010 but you hear all kinds of stuff. Good luck to the serious and nice shoppers. I even ran into hosts on here who ripped of my first Discussion s fast for some strange reason.
it takes all kinds. I hope n a few months I have some odd reports to give I would not ever get close to Strong VW in Salt Lake City. They are game players and one day one guy is the GM, the next day another guy is the GM, they play games to get more sales. somebody told me they do that to test you up against...I had no idea what he was talking about.
Peace and God's Blessings to al of you.
In Florida. Purchased an 2009 sportwagen candy white with tan interior. 6-speed automatic trans and pan sunroof were only add ons.
MSRP $26,970.00
Invoice $25,450.00
Paid $25,209.00 plus $292.50 dealer fee + tax + tag and title.
If you factor in the dealer fee, then I paid $50 over invoice. Not too bad.
This heater is a Factory installed unit,as you could see how the heater was tied in(hoses,steel pipe,etc). I plugged it in and this heater works fast!
Neat thing was,I ordered the car without a heater. It is a $495 item. So this ended up being a freebee!
This '09 feels like a luxury car compared to my '02 Jetta. Very big improvements in noise level,trim,interior space,ride. AND POWER! Put her down into sport mode and watch out. Very happy with this unit!
Here's an example of my favorite...
Candy White
Sunroof
DSG a/t transmission
Ipod ready
Rubber floormats
FitzMall Delivered :
Internet Price: $22,331.00
Value Price: $22,700.00
Invoice Price: $24,138.00
MSRP: $25,138.00
You need to be on the East Coast (or really creative) to cash in on this, but if nothing else, it makes great comparison shopping and if you print out the deal you like, take it in to your nearst VW dealer and lay it on the table.
Expect a lot of double talk when they see the below invoice numbers....
http://www.fitzautomall.com/fitzway/carfind/resultsa.asp
Just went to one of the VW Deals night thingy where you can get some free food and drink. I settled on a Jetta TDI Highline (I live in Canada) with ESP and Rear Side Airbags for $31500 for everything including taxes. Would this be considered a deal? Thanks!
Pano roof
17 Avignon
Nav + ipod connect and USB connect
Protection Kit
Black
$880 under invoice
NYC metro
Silver
17" Avi' Wheels
Sunroof
Ipod
Gorilla mats and trunk system
Rubber Jetta Mats
500 Under invoice
For anyone shopping their deals against the rest of the VW dealerships, here's a llink to the (I think) best prices on 09' Jetta TDI's with nice options.
For anyone on the East Coast, these posted low internet prices are a good thing to print out and put down on any Sales managers desk when they start giving you the hard sell....here's todays list..
http://www.fitzautomall.com/fitzway/carfind/resultsa.asp
Invoice was $23,481 and paid $22,481.
Tax, Title and Doc fee...OTD $24,046
Reflex silver
6-speed man
sun roof
sport & protection pkg
17" Avignon wheels
Seems like a really good deal, what do you guys think? Can't wait to get it out on the open road.
Paid
$21,783 for a TDI Sunroof and ipod connector,
$150 title/registration fees
197.75 Other clerical fees (too tired to negotiate)
Total 22,130.75
Invoice: 24,041
Just a FYI, I feel I got jacked on my trade in by $500
- 1) Check out costco or BJ's auto program- will get you a dealer atleast who is willing to talk (I got an great quote, which I parlayed into a better one from a closer dealer)
2) Did internet quotes, after first good quote, I told others what I was offered, as for match or lower.
3) That Fitzmall site, is a good site to give you an idea of what dealers can go down to. Granted I wasnt going to VA to get a car, but I knew how low the dealers I was working with could go.
4) Also for financing, get your own, and use that as a bargening. The dealership beat chase bank which was offering me 4.75 APR by .10 . Not much but if I didnt have the backup of chase they probably would have banged me out.
As for your 'Trade In' I think if you only got $500 less than what you thought your car was worth, you still did pretty good.
Seems Jetta TDI's are easier to buy on the East Coast than anywhere else..(in Great FAlls Montana they are trying to get an extra $2000 over MSRP!)
http://www.fitzautomall.com/fitzway/carfind/resultsa.asp
It's a good internet place to check prices and details before you get the hard sell from any dealers about prices and avalability. But it looks like they are now not giving the great deals on the Sportwagons like they are on the Sedans. Maybe they never did, but at least they have a couple.
None of my business but I would wait for the new 2010 Jetta Sportwagon model that should be out in a couple of months or so. It will now have the steering wheel controls included, and a few other features worth waiting for.
VW knows they have the only high mpg TDI's in a moderate price range and the dealers are all pretty cocky about it.
Here's some info on the new VW TDI's that are coming to North America later this year.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/vw_audi_central/2- - 010_volkswagen_jetta_sportwagen_car_news
Did yours have cloth seats and no steering wheel controls?
I find it strange VW would put all that glass in the roof of a Station Wagon, and to make matters worse, a roof antenna for the radio.
Das Dumb.
2009 White TDI
iPod Adaptor
Mat Kit
DSG Auto
$22,199 +Tax/Ttl/Lisc
The VW Jetta TDI sedan I purchased at 22,031 has the leather and steer wheels controls. Only difference was the time on the lot.
Also, isn't a diesel more dirty? also how is the torque on this car? It looks fairly hefty? Would it blow the regular 2.0T engine out of the water?
I have seen TDI's before, newer models, and they have this black dust near the muffler that appears.
I have my heart set on a Wolfsburg 2.0T
RUG to PUG 30 ppm sulfur
D2 15ppm to 5 ppm sulfur
What does the mathematics tell you? Yet INXS of 98% chose the 2 x to 6 x dirtier fuel......
You are probably one of the INXS of 98% that chose the 2 x to 6x dirtier fuel?
D2 15ppm to 5 ppm sulfur
What does the mathematics tell you? Yet INXS of 98% chose the 2 x to 6 x dirtier fuel......
It seems some people like to act a little superior on this thread and forget that it is for everyone....not just diesel junkies.
I'll give a shot at deciphering for you.
Reg Unleaded Gas(RUG) and Premium Unleaded Gas(PUG) put out about 30 parts per million of sulphur polutant
The new clean Diesel(D2) puts out from about 15 parts per million to 5 parts per million.
I have no idea what "INXS" means but I think he is indicating that 98% of people still buy a gas vehicle which puts out between 2 and 6 times the sulphur polutants than the new clean diesel fuel does.
From everything I've read the new diesel doesn't smell much but I have noticed a tinge of soot around the exhaust pipes of new Jetta TDIs I have been behind on the road.
I am really considering the car.
With it being a diesel engine, the torque seems like its pretty strong. Stronger than the regular 2.0T? That would be fun! Worth it.
Superior? No it is just the information has been repeated any exponential number of times and it seems the only ones who seem to "get it" ARE your words "diesel junkies". The residual in the overwhelming number of cases seems to be continuing dis belief.
So it is refreshing to see that "other than" folks seem to at least understand it. However that understanding seemingly hasn't done much to motivate many to ...try/switch.
Personally, I know of quite a few people considering diesels for the first time. For one who's spent quite a bit of time in Europe, this is a good thing.
Let's see, I ask a question, which gets no answer. Then I tell you the answer. Then I tell you the statistics. Does the truth seem condescending?
The 2009 TDI is @ 140 hp and 236 # ft of torque. The EPAs are 30/41/34 and29/40/33 mpg. The 2009 2.0T (turbo) is @ 200 hp and 207# ft of torque. So yes app 14% more torque than the 2.0 T. The EPA's are 22/29/25 mpg. I also believe PUG is required.
Sometimes it can be depending on how you say it.
Indeed I agree and I didn't nor did I police the thread.
..."Sometimes it can be depending on how you say it. "...
Well that might be an explanation why the public is so fond of well told.... lies.
see msg #7673 in "Diesel In The News " for the well debated "but RUG per gal is almost always cheape than D2" one.
I know there are a half-dozen other threads to bore each other with diesel information..
thanks,
kyfdx
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