Nah, I'm not THAT big of a fool! Besides, the county would come down on me like stink on a skunk if I tried to sit all that junk in my yard! And all of the areas of my yard that are secluded are also damp, so anything I tried to hide back there would rust away in no time! Although there are some remnants from a '63 Impala that were dumped back there in the late 70's that, oddly, don't seem to have deteriorated much over the decades.
I love the '76-77 LeMans, but I don't love them that much! As for there being a shortage of the '73-77 LeMans, well, around here there seems to be a shortage of nice ones, at least around here. I had to go all the way to Cincinatti to get mine! But then, this quartet isn't exactly what I'd classify as "nice"!
I was thinking that the '76 might be a bit of a novelty, and somewhat rare in having the 400. I think in '76 you could get a 250-6, and 260, 305, 350, 400, and 455 V-8's, but IIRC the 400 and especially 455 were rarely ordered. But this '76 doesn't have its original engine in it (M-code in the VIN is 350. Interestingly, so is "P". I wonder if one was for the 2-bbl versus 4-bbl?) And it's wearing a '77 grille.
So what WOULD a fair price for all this mess be? Maybe $2K? I figure if nothing else, if I had the place to store it, the parts could keep my '76 on the road forever, and help rebuild it after a couple of accidents. Of course, if it got banged up bad enough in an accident, it'd probably be a lot less hassle to just go find another nice one, instead of putting the wrecked one back together.
If I can weigh in on the Sebring: I know that there are regional differences in used car prices, but in my neck of the woods (lower NY) that's a 1500 dollar car max. The car with no body damage would maybe be worth 3 grand. The greatest one on Earth, maybe 5 grand.
Take 1500 and run. I missed the story og how you already got 15oo out of it. What's the deal?
I just read over the whole list again. I'd just haul them all off to the wreckers and/or pay junk prices for them. I doubt they are worth more than $250 apiece. So far, bidders agree with me.
That car in reasonable condition is collectible. If you want collectible dollars though, you don't advertise it on Craigslist for free and expect to get it. Even those cars that go for ridiculous money on RM auctions and such have marketing behind them. You need to know your target audience. I would use Nines or another Saab specific group, maybe eBay if I had a way to let interested parties know the ad was up there, or maybe a classic car trade magazine (especially one interested in imports). Big money for collector cars is not made on Craigslist.
You might be shocked to learn that there is a collector market for 2-stroke Saabs.
IF this car were a true Monte Carlo, and IF it didn't have rust and whatever else, and IF it were pristine, the price is very possible. Even MORE for a mint 850 Monte...I'd dare say $12,000 can be reached in the right venue for the right buyer.
However, this is....well...it's Cosmopolitan Motors, so grab handful of salt, insert.....
Actual value? About $3,500 -- $4,000 feels right. So it's only double what it should be. That's about right for Cosmo.
Crankshafts are unobtainium...bend over if you need one....
Best hope this job was done right and not a "make do" because of unavailable parts.
Could I count the number of botched engines in "classic" cars? No.
As an example,last year, on a whim, I bought a 1989 Buick Le Sabre T-Type from a friend. I bought the car new, kept it seven years and sold it. He kept it ten years and resold it to me.
It's nothing special but there is a website devoted to that model. Pretty nice website too and it's actually pretty active!
I think I've driven the Buick 50 miles since I got it back.
Well more power to 'em...just don't pass them off as "classics"...it dilutes the meaning of the word and renders it useless....if everything is something, then nothing is something....
heck, I am sure I once ran across a Chevy Celebrity site.
I remember awhile back, I ran across a Buick Apollo site! Talk about a narrow audience! I think the Apollo only ran for maybe 3 years, before being rebadged as Skylark.
There's a site devoted to the '73-77 LeMans, at www.abodysite.com. I'm actually surprised that it has such a large following!
there's also a site devoted to the compact Dodge Dart, at http://www.foundationpc.com/index.htm. It also briefly covers the full size (1960-61) and midsize (62) Dart, and I think the Valiant, as well. I knew the guy who ran it, back in the 90's. We went junkyarding together once or twice. He ended up moving out west somewhere, and I think got a job with Ford of all places (ironic, considering how much he loved the Dart!). Unfortunately, he passed away in 2005, but it looks like someone else is keeping his site running!
I think there's a couple of sites devoted to the 1957 DeSoto. I have yet to find a site devoted to the Mopar R-body, though!
Oh, hey, speaking of the Benz W126, what would one of those have gone for, brand-new, back in 1987? I was watching Creepshow II last night, and in one of the stories they tore the hell out of one! It had composite headlights, so I'm guessing it was either very new or Euro-spec. Just seemed like an awfully expensive car for a low-budget movie to be tearing up! At one point though, the car had some major damage to the back of it, like it backed into a pole at high speed. However, they never actually SHOWED it getting damaged from that angle. So I'm guessing they might've used a good Benz, and then found a similar one that was a salvage or something?
But if you made a movie today and wanted to buy some 420s to smash up? Probably $3,000 apiece for decent ones and way less for junkers. They made about 90,000 of the 420s and over 100,000 of the 300SE in the 126 range so they are pretty common and very cheap to buy at the moment.
Yep, there are "collectables" and there are "classics". Collectables are governed by supply and demand (say there are 3 Saab nuts looking for that one 96, then you could even have a bidding war). Marketing tries to make everything a collectable (including the NASCAR-themed Tide box I saw at Sam's - honest, it said "Collectable"). There isn't any "how good/important/historic a car is this, really?" filter applied to collectables, unlike classics. Just ask the Hummel collectors.
I remember that scene! I haven't seen that movie since I was a kid, but I remember it vividly, as even then I liked the cars and was amazed that they ruined one in the movie.
I don't recall the car exactly...I think it was supposed to be a 560SEL though. For MY 1986, the W126 got this weird 2-piece semi-composite assembly, not perfectly flush, but much different from the old inset lights. However, it is not a big job to retrofit lights, so the only way to guess the age of a 126 with more certainty is from side trim and interior. I am sure they found an earlier car (the 126 had been out since early 1980 in Europe, and many grey market cars made it to NA) for the damage scenes, if not one that was already wrecked.
In 1987 a 560SEL would have been in the low 60s, so I doubt they would have ruined one. IIRC, the woman who had the the W126 had a husband who drove a period BMW 6er coupe.
If I can weigh in on the Sebring: I know that there are regional differences in used car prices, but in my neck of the woods (lower NY) that's a 1500 dollar car max. The car with no body damage would maybe be worth 3 grand. The greatest one on Earth, maybe 5 grand.
Take 1500 and run. I missed the story og how you already got 15oo out of it. What's the deal?
I didn't get $1500 out of it already, I got $1000, the guy owed me the rest but never paid for it. So, I had to take the car back.
I've got it advertised for $1500, have one person interested, but I'm not holding my breath. I can get probably $600 from the junkyard for it if I want to. I agree its probably throwing good money after bad to keep it and try to fix the issues with it.
Oh, that's a pre-1986 Euro car, small bumpers and it has hubcaps (never offered on NA cars). Really hard to tell if the other pic is the same car, but it could have been. The 380SE was sold in NA in 84-85, but that's certainly a Euro market car.
Looks like it crashed well. Fun stuff, I hadn't thought of that movie in years.
Andre, I decided to check out that De Soto club site and I ended up spending quite a bit of time there.
Some guy who must have endless cash and nothing but time onhis hands has restored THREE junker 57 De Sotos that I would have had crushed. He must really have a love for them. Does anyone know if they made any D-500 De Sotos like Dodge did?
A friend in high school paid 200.00 and he bought a gold and white four door 1957 Dodge with the D-500 package.
People would make fun of him until they were foolish enough to race him.
The worst part on those cars were the brakes. Just terrible. " Center Plane" brakes that used two wheel cylinders on each of the fronts.
The rear drums were a [non-permissible content removed] to remove! You had to remove a large nut that was friozen in place and then, a three legged puller you had to beat the hell out of with a hammer.
Does anyone know if they made any D-500 De Sotos like Dodge did?
Well, Dodge went a slightly different route than the rest of the Mopar divisions when it came to performance. Plymouth, DeSoto, and Chrysler just put out limited-edition performance cars, the Fury, Adventurer, and 300 Letter Series. In contrast, the D-500 (and D-501) were options, and could be had on ANY Dodge, from the cheapest Coronet to the most expensive Custom Royal, and any body style from 2-door sedan to convertible to station wagon.
In 1958, I think you could get the Fireflite's 4-bbl 361 as an option in the Firedome (2-bbl standard). That wasn't much of a boost though...305 hp versus 295. In 1959 though, I believe you could order the Adventurer's 350 hp 383 dual-quad across the board. It must've been a screamer in something like a Firesweep, which was built on the shorter, lighter Dodge platform.
For 1960, there was a cross-ram 383 available, that put out 330 hp. Supposedly it was optional on the 1960 Adventurer (which was not a limited edition model by this time, but an expaned line similar to the way the Fury and Impala line were expanded and watered down). I've also heard of a 1961 cross-ram, either a 361 or 383, that was theoretically optional on the 1961 DeSoto, but I don't know if any were equipped that way. I think all the '61's left the factory with the watered-down 265 hp 361-2bbl.
as for the 1957 D-500, there were actually several engine choices. One was a Dodge 325 Hemi with a 4-bbl carb and 285 hp. Optional was dual quads and 310. The real killer though, was the D-501 package, which used a Chrysler 354 Hemi, dual quads, and 340 hp.
I know the D-500 package was available in other models but I had never heard of a D-501.
My friend'd Dodge had the single 4bbl carb but as heavy as it was, it was able to whip a lot of cars that it shouldn't have. It was a Custom Royal. I remember it was TERRIBLE on gas mileage no matter how it was dirven.
Funny that you should mention how terrible the mileage in you friend's single 4bbl Dodge was. I was just thinking about 1957 technology and the dual-quad set-up. I'll bet that really sucked down the fuel.
I drove my mom's 1957 Fireflight a lot when I was in high school. I believe it had the 4bbl 361 that andre mentioned. I'm sure that I bought gas for it, but I never figured the mileage.
I estimated that my '57 Firedome, which has the 270 hp 341 hemi 2bbl, got around 13-14 around town, and maybe 16 on the highway. I was usually pretty gentle with it though. Not having seatbelts can do that to you!
They had a wide variety of axle ratios back then, which I'm sure would have a huge impact on fuel economy. I think the 2-speed Powerflite models usually had a 3.54:1 axle standard, while the 3-speed Torqueflites had a 3.31:1 standard, but I'm sure high performance models had more aggressive gearing. I'll have to crawl up under mine to verify the axle tag, but I think mine just has a 2.94:1 rear.
I'd imagine that something like a D-500 had at least a 3.54 rear.
Between displacement, carbs, transmission, and rear end ratio, how many different ways could you order one of those? Compared to 4 (4cyl/6cyl, manual/auto) for most cars today. Takes some of the fun out of getting a car...
These are a mystery to me Sure it had a rotissere restoration, but when all is said and done, you have a light blue pickup truck that runs and rides like they did 50 years ago. :confuse:
I'll ened to find a copy of this movie...I am sure you can buy the DVD for $5, but it's probably not worth that!
Well, I caught Creepshow II on the new "Chiller" network, and judging from the way they repeat the same thing again and again, I'm sure you'll have plenty of chances to catch it, or Tivo it!
What does the non-velour cloth on a Benz from that era look like? I really didn't get a good look at the cloth of this particular Benz, but just enough to tell that it was a fabric and not leather. From what little I could tell, it did have a thick, supple look to it.
i got a chuckle out of those pictures of the inside door panels on the audi. the first time my kids rode in a car without power windows, they had no idea how to lower them!
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Ha, I have the $12/month cable package - I don't watch a lot of TV. Maybe I can find it in a discount bin somewhere.
Here's the plain cloth in a W126: - It's solid on the edges, a checked pattern in the middle
Here's the velour: - solid in the middle, striped/grooved on the edges...IIRC this pattern actually dates from before the war, and wasn't phased out til the early 90s.
Scirocco - the GTI/Scirocco/Jetta were great cars to hop up, could call them the start of the tuners. Had a '79 Scirocco, never did like the 2nd gen. (rumor was VW wouldn't pay Giugiaro's fee another time, and designed it in house instead), and the 16V wasn't the big step everyone had been hoping for. Still should be a fun car, though. Don't see many around.
i put a monza exhaust on mine. added a big stereo, too. my kid is happy driving my explorer. i drive a focus zts(2.3 5 speed). i guess i have not grown up much from 30 years ago.
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I liked the looks of the Corrado, but the first versions had this odd "G-Lader" scroll-type supercharger on the 8V engine (again pointing to the failure of the 16V engine) that proved troublesome, IIRC. When they finally put the VR6 in it, is was a fast, good handling car.
Oh that Chevy-powered XJS doesn't bother me at all--you could turn them into flower pots and I'd be happy...awkwardly styled cars with tempermental V-12s, which is why they are now sale-proof unless you give 'em up for chump change. Now if you did that to an E-Type I'd weep...unless it was a 2+2 then I'd give you a medal. :P
"Rat Rod Project" -- you must remind me next time I'm driving in the desert, to drag some filigrees of rusted body out of the cactus and put it on craigslist for $1,500.
Velour Upholstery -- every time I see velour upholstery in an 80s car I expect a chime on the dashboard to go off and say "I've fallen and I can't get up"
Chimes: My mother still drives an 80s Riviara that has chimes that go off in conjunction with the turn signals. Instead of click-click-click, you get DING-DING-DING-DIND-DING.
I am pretty sure the Supra my uncle had when I was a kid had a digital display too...that car seemed to be the pinnacle of technology when I was about 6 or so.
to the annoying buzzers that cars used to have back in the day! I had almost forgotten about them, because most of my cars from that era had been stuff with the more soothing chimes, like my Mopar R-bodies, '82 Cutlass, etc. But then one day my '76 LeMans buzzed at me, and gave me a very bad flashback!
I think my pickup might have had a buzzer at one time, but either it died, or somebody cut its vocal cords.
I used to crush them with vice grips...the buzzers would scream for a while, then cut in and out, and finally expire. It was very satisfying, like pulling out a bad tooth.
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Buy it now for a measly 6500.00??
What is this guy thinking!
Nah, I'm not THAT big of a fool! Besides, the county would come down on me like stink on a skunk if I tried to sit all that junk in my yard! And all of the areas of my yard that are secluded are also damp, so anything I tried to hide back there would rust away in no time! Although there are some remnants from a '63 Impala that were dumped back there in the late 70's that, oddly, don't seem to have deteriorated much over the decades.
I love the '76-77 LeMans, but I don't love them that much! As for there being a shortage of the '73-77 LeMans, well, around here there seems to be a shortage of nice ones, at least around here. I had to go all the way to Cincinatti to get mine! But then, this quartet isn't exactly what I'd classify as "nice"!
I was thinking that the '76 might be a bit of a novelty, and somewhat rare in having the 400. I think in '76 you could get a 250-6, and 260, 305, 350, 400, and 455 V-8's, but IIRC the 400 and especially 455 were rarely ordered. But this '76 doesn't have its original engine in it (M-code in the VIN is 350. Interestingly, so is "P". I wonder if one was for the 2-bbl versus 4-bbl?) And it's wearing a '77 grille.
So what WOULD a fair price for all this mess be? Maybe $2K? I figure if nothing else, if I had the place to store it, the parts could keep my '76 on the road forever, and help rebuild it after a couple of accidents. Of course, if it got banged up bad enough in an accident, it'd probably be a lot less hassle to just go find another nice one, instead of putting the wrecked one back together.
Take 1500 and run. I missed the story og how you already got 15oo out of it. What's the deal?
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/290057807.html
james
These belong in a crusher!
When I was a kid working in a gas station, a customer had one of these. He would pull up to the pump and hand us a quart of oil to put in the tank.
When you opened the gas door a red flag would pop out as a reminder to add oil before fueling.
Who would want an oddball piece like this at ANY price?
Even those cars that go for ridiculous money on RM auctions and such have marketing behind them. You need to know your target audience.
I would use Nines or another Saab specific group, maybe eBay if I had a way to let interested parties know the ad was up there, or maybe a classic car trade magazine (especially one interested in imports). Big money for collector cars is not made on Craigslist.
IF this car were a true Monte Carlo, and IF it didn't have rust and whatever else, and IF it were pristine, the price is very possible. Even MORE for a mint 850 Monte...I'd dare say $12,000 can be reached in the right venue for the right buyer.
However, this is....well...it's Cosmopolitan Motors, so grab handful of salt, insert.....
Actual value? About $3,500 -- $4,000 feels right. So it's only double what it should be. That's about right for Cosmo.
Crankshafts are unobtainium...bend over if you need one....
Best hope this job was done right and not a "make do" because of unavailable parts.
Could I count the number of botched engines in "classic" cars? No.
don't forget, she's in Alaska.
I think she may get $5k for it when the moose are running ... or something like that. ;b
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As an example,last year, on a whim, I bought a 1989 Buick Le Sabre T-Type from a friend. I bought the car new, kept it seven years and sold it. He kept it ten years and resold it to me.
It's nothing special but there is a website devoted to that model. Pretty nice website too and it's actually pretty active!
I think I've driven the Buick 50 miles since I got it back.
There are several MB fintail and W126 sites out there, a W202 site, heck, I am sure I once ran across a Chevy Celebrity site.
I remember awhile back, I ran across a Buick Apollo site! Talk about a narrow audience! I think the Apollo only ran for maybe 3 years, before being rebadged as Skylark.
There's a site devoted to the '73-77 LeMans, at www.abodysite.com. I'm actually surprised that it has such a large following!
there's also a site devoted to the compact Dodge Dart, at http://www.foundationpc.com/index.htm. It also briefly covers the full size (1960-61) and midsize (62) Dart, and I think the Valiant, as well. I knew the guy who ran it, back in the 90's. We went junkyarding together once or twice. He ended up moving out west somewhere, and I think got a job with Ford of all places (ironic, considering how much he loved the Dart!). Unfortunately, he passed away in 2005, but it looks like someone else is keeping his site running!
I think there's a couple of sites devoted to the 1957 DeSoto. I have yet to find a site devoted to the Mopar R-body, though!
Oh, hey, speaking of the Benz W126, what would one of those have gone for, brand-new, back in 1987? I was watching Creepshow II last night, and in one of the stories they tore the hell out of one! It had composite headlights, so I'm guessing it was either very new or Euro-spec. Just seemed like an awfully expensive car for a low-budget movie to be tearing up! At one point though, the car had some major damage to the back of it, like it backed into a pole at high speed. However, they never actually SHOWED it getting damaged from that angle. So I'm guessing they might've used a good Benz, and then found a similar one that was a salvage or something?
But if you made a movie today and wanted to buy some 420s to smash up? Probably $3,000 apiece for decent ones and way less for junkers. They made about 90,000 of the 420s and over 100,000 of the 300SE in the 126 range so they are pretty common and very cheap to buy at the moment.
I don't recall the car exactly...I think it was supposed to be a 560SEL though. For MY 1986, the W126 got this weird 2-piece semi-composite assembly, not perfectly flush, but much different from the old inset lights. However, it is not a big job to retrofit lights, so the only way to guess the age of a 126 with more certainty is from side trim and interior. I am sure they found an earlier car (the 126 had been out since early 1980 in Europe, and many grey market cars made it to NA) for the damage scenes, if not one that was already wrecked.
In 1987 a 560SEL would have been in the low 60s, so I doubt they would have ruined one. IIRC, the woman who had the the W126 had a husband who drove a period BMW 6er coupe.
They have it listed as a 1984 380 SE.
And here's how it looked, at the end of the story.
Take 1500 and run. I missed the story og how you already got 15oo out of it. What's the deal?
I didn't get $1500 out of it already, I got $1000, the guy owed me the rest but never paid for it. So, I had to take the car back.
I've got it advertised for $1500, have one person interested, but I'm not holding my breath. I can get probably $600 from the junkyard for it if I want to. I agree its probably throwing good money after bad to keep it and try to fix the issues with it.
Looks like it crashed well. Fun stuff, I hadn't thought of that movie in years.
Some guy who must have endless cash and nothing but time onhis hands has restored THREE junker 57 De Sotos that I would have had crushed. He must really have a love for them. Does anyone know if they made any D-500 De Sotos like Dodge did?
A friend in high school paid 200.00 and he bought a gold and white four door 1957 Dodge with the D-500 package.
People would make fun of him until they were foolish enough to race him.
The worst part on those cars were the brakes. Just terrible. " Center Plane" brakes that used two wheel cylinders on each of the fronts.
The rear drums were a [non-permissible content removed] to remove! You had to remove a large nut that was friozen in place and then, a three legged puller you had to beat the hell out of with a hammer.
Just nasty!
That Dodge could lay rubber for a block!
Well, Dodge went a slightly different route than the rest of the Mopar divisions when it came to performance. Plymouth, DeSoto, and Chrysler just put out limited-edition performance cars, the Fury, Adventurer, and 300 Letter Series. In contrast, the D-500 (and D-501) were options, and could be had on ANY Dodge, from the cheapest Coronet to the most expensive Custom Royal, and any body style from 2-door sedan to convertible to station wagon.
In 1958, I think you could get the Fireflite's 4-bbl 361 as an option in the Firedome (2-bbl standard). That wasn't much of a boost though...305 hp versus 295. In 1959 though, I believe you could order the Adventurer's 350 hp 383 dual-quad across the board. It must've been a screamer in something like a Firesweep, which was built on the shorter, lighter Dodge platform.
For 1960, there was a cross-ram 383 available, that put out 330 hp. Supposedly it was optional on the 1960 Adventurer (which was not a limited edition model by this time, but an expaned line similar to the way the Fury and Impala line were expanded and watered down). I've also heard of a 1961 cross-ram, either a 361 or 383, that was theoretically optional on the 1961 DeSoto, but I don't know if any were equipped that way. I think all the '61's left the factory with the watered-down 265 hp 361-2bbl.
My friend'd Dodge had the single 4bbl carb but as heavy as it was, it was able to whip a lot of cars that it shouldn't have. It was a Custom Royal. I remember it was TERRIBLE on gas mileage no matter how it was dirven.
I drove my mom's 1957 Fireflight a lot when I was in high school. I believe it had the 4bbl 361 that andre mentioned. I'm sure that I bought gas for it, but I never figured the mileage.
james
They had a wide variety of axle ratios back then, which I'm sure would have a huge impact on fuel economy. I think the 2-speed Powerflite models usually had a 3.54:1 axle standard, while the 3-speed Torqueflites had a 3.31:1 standard, but I'm sure high performance models had more aggressive gearing. I'll have to crawl up under mine to verify the axle tag, but I think mine just has a 2.94:1 rear.
I'd imagine that something like a D-500 had at least a 3.54 rear.
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This will make you feel better
THAT takes some doing!
I'll ened to find a copy of this movie...I am sure you can buy the DVD for $5, but it's probably not worth that!
Heinous 85mph speedo...I've never noticed one of those before
but...
I want it I got to ride in one of these in 1967. It was a very cool futuristic car to a 12 year old.
Not even Mrs. Crosley wants it for $8,000
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"could look like last pic when done " Yeah, and I could look like Marilyn Monroe when I'm done.
These are a mystery to me Sure it had a rotissere restoration, but when all is said and done, you have a light blue pickup truck that runs and rides like they did 50 years ago. :confuse:
"Nice Project Car", he says I wonder what his idea of a bad project car looks like??????
Now here's a running car that I'd part out (Well I might drive it for a little while first)
Well, I caught Creepshow II on the new "Chiller" network, and judging from the way they repeat the same thing again and again, I'm sure you'll have plenty of chances to catch it, or Tivo it!
What does the non-velour cloth on a Benz from that era look like? I really didn't get a good look at the cloth of this particular Benz, but just enough to tell that it was a fabric and not leather. From what little I could tell, it did have a thick, supple look to it.
Here's the plain cloth in a W126:
Here's the velour:
james
my kid is happy driving my explorer. i drive a focus zts(2.3 5 speed). i guess i have not grown up much from 30 years ago.
I have to say I really like the General's wraparound windshield of 1959-60. We'll never see anything like that again!
"Rat Rod Project" -- you must remind me next time I'm driving in the desert, to drag some filigrees of rusted body out of the cactus and put it on craigslist for $1,500.
Velour Upholstery -- every time I see velour upholstery in an 80s car I expect a chime on the dashboard to go off and say "I've fallen and I can't get up"
Sometimes little things like that make me CRAZY!
The car talked to you for Pete's sake! That was annoying!
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I am pretty sure the Supra my uncle had when I was a kid had a digital display too...that car seemed to be the pinnacle of technology when I was about 6 or so.
I think my pickup might have had a buzzer at one time, but either it died, or somebody cut its vocal cords.