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How Can He Bear To Look At It?
OK, where to start. It's not a '32, it's a low cowl Model T, so it's ca. 1925. It's not a roadster, it's a touring car. And in really nice condition, it'd be worth about $7500. But it is a Ford!
Unusual grey market money pit
Yeah, I could just drive it around with rust holes on the body, and no one will notice. :confuse:
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$100 more like it?
What's with picture #4?
T-Bird P/U
Doesn't look like $15K Cougar
Anyone know how to drill a well?
i've always liked the looks of these. real sharp cars.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
They get used as wedding cars a lot now.
'97 Acura CL
I see a definite trend in the classic car hobby to both drive cars more and to modify them for practical everyday use.
The *worst* thing you can do to a collector car is to cut the sheet metal in some way unless you are going full-bore, custom rod.
I can't imagine this person really thinks he's got showcars on his lot, yet everything is priced as though it were.
The car that caught my wifes attention was a red '66 convertible mustang with the straight 6. Piss poor repaint on the car, cracking in some spots. Had some rust starting on the floors, but maybe 95% solid. The car seemed to be all there on the surface. Not knowing a helluva lot about current prices for such a vehicle, my best guess was $12k TOPS. any guesses as to his asking price before I reveal?
Also had a '55 Tbird on the lot that my wife liked. I knew that was way out of our league no matter what. I looked it over for fun and found a car that needed ALOT of attention. Rust starting everywhere. Again with the piss poor repaint. bad chrome. the whole deal. The man still wants $35k for it!
Bunch of other stuff there, but either in horrible shape or horribly overpriced.
OH, I got a good one I almost forgot. A fully restored chrome bumper Midget. $11k! I don't know of a midget in the world anywhere worth $11k!
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
"instant classic"
I wonder how many of these Mustangs and the Cutlasses started out with Avis, etc....
Edit-checked it out, it's Amos Minter Thunderbirds, they have them for sale $30k - $130k. If you're an early Tbird nut, check them out at amosminter.com.
'55 T-Bird as a clean, rust-free #3 driver about $27,000. A really really sharp car, #2 older restoration, fresh not 100 pt restoration perhaps $50K--$55K. If supercharged E or F code T-Bird, those are quite rare and expensivo $$$.
"Asking prices" are just an exercise of your First Amendment Rights. Asking prices have nothing to do with market value, nor does Barrett-Jackson for that matter. You can take as much as 50% off B-J or asking prices to hit "true value" and where most of them can be bought if you take the time to look.
Of course, super-rare cars in limited numbers of 100 or less can only be bought in one place at one time and therefore B-J prices might be more accurate because there are so few comps.
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89 and up side view:
88 and older side view:
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He did say he will negotiate, etc. But, what's the point when you start at double fair value? I just don't bother wasting my time at that point.
Personally, I think an early '60s bird is the way to go. I mean, what's a real clean convertible go for? $15k?
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
so my instinct was right on the stang. the man is nuts.
$9500 for a midget is even way more than I would have thought possible. Even if $8k is possible, then I can't fault the man too much for asking $11k. So maybe i should give him a little credit for that.
However, in my personal opinion, there are so many much nicer vehicles for that kind of money. i mean, you aren't far from nice MGB territory at that point.
i'm surprised there were no comments on the Triumph hardtop I posted.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
that's fine with me. Let's me try to push the classic car possibility more.
dealer with the sebring was pretty shady. the car had obviously been repainted and he wouldn't comment. he also had a '95 bimmer 325 vert with 78k hard miles on it. He was asking *choke* $12k!!!!! I had to work REAL hard to control myself when he said it. He saw my obvious disgust, though, and had to point out the low miles. uhhhh... yeah, right.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Pretty awful car, you'd want to steer clear of those. They are basically Triumph Spitfires, but with the build quality of Italian TV dinner trays and accomodations for a midget...a small midget....I can't say anything good about them, wish I could. At least a Spitfire droptop has the wind and the rain in your hair (well, so does a Triumph hardtop for that matter....), but it's also got a more supportive aftermarket, fewer parts to mess with, and is easier to restore by a long shot----and potentially more value.
well, i can say one good thing ... i think they're purty. ;b
and, on that one in particular, the owner must be taking a bath. total engine rebuild? repaint? $7500? Ouch!
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Some people just don't do the math when they start a restoration. At least they could be honest and say "Look, I put way more into this car than its worth, so here's the discount price---I'm ready to take my lumps".
RE: Overpriced Mustangs and T-Birds: as far as I'm concerned, when I see shabby cars priced 2X market value, I don't even stop to look at them---these cars aren't for sale, these are just bait looking for that rare, naive stupid buyer that hasn't figured things out about the collector car market.
20 years ago you could snag a "fish" with an overpriced pile of junk, but those days are over. People have lots more info at their disposal and they aren't apt to overpay for junk anymore....once in a while you'll see this at auction, but it's more likely they will overpay for *nice* cars--that's different---that's an impulse buy for a glittery object.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Like when I sold my perfectly fine '97 Camry 3 years ago and started the bidding at $400?
Many "sales" on eBay aren't sales at all---the buyers kick the car (don't pay in auction parlance) when they sober up (no matter what eBay says, you can't force them to pay you), or the finfal bid is a shill so as to get the second highest bidder into a negotiation with the story "oh, the first bidder backed out at $120K, but you can have it for 110K".
Lots of monkey business on eBay.
hey, you think this will drop in the alfa? ;b
This is different. Description leaves alot to be desired, though.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
But, at least now we know where all the Vega GT steering wheels ended up.
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No, its for an Accord like mine lol. If you want something to drop in the Alfa you should get the S2000 motor or the Pontiac Vibe motor.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
If it's just bad camera work, then the car is worth an eyeball---I'd never buy a 450SL on the blind. It's also a not-so-good year, 1976. Send an inspector.
Japanese Motor: What an Alfa Spider needs is a V-6, 3.0L from an Alfa GTV. It would be a lot easier than converting a front driver to RWD. Maybe if you had a newer European Spider, which is FWD, that type of conversion would be easier, but then, how you gonna get a Euro mid-90s Spider into America?
Pontiac: The typical good taste of street-rodding. It's all about being outrageous, after all.
This might be a good driver, if it really has been cared for
He wants $10k for the job! So... I figure its a $5k-$6k car now. I put $10k into it and I have .... a $5k-$6k car. woohoo!
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Miata? Well, okay but everybody has one....
Boxster? Maybe a 1997--98 model with a lot of miles and not a terribly...er...manly car either (see above).
Mazda RX-7 TT -- way fun, but KABOOM!
Porsche 914? -- cool car but bring your egg-timer for 0-60 specs.
Have you ever heard that 3.0L wind up when it's really tuned just right? Nuthin' like it.
Now you've got ME wanted one---stop that!
he was supposedly working on a do-it-yourself kit. I have no idea if that ever came to pass.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S