True, I'm sure those diesel injectors had a lot of influence on the precision pumps needed for gas fuel injectors. It required a whole new level of manufacturing precision to make those. Sounds very 'German', not very 'English' :P
Seriously, my '05 Hyundai Elantra could only do that if you used extreme measures and kept the speed under 60. Are there BMW drivers out there who would actually believe this kind of baloney?
The problem is that he's made it into a boy-racer (below). My experience with mods suggests that making a significant mod is like upsetting the balance of nature, and requires other mods and repairs. After that first mod, you're always fixing something. If that's what you're into, it's fun. If you just want something to drive (other than to see if your most recent repair or mod works OK), it can be a drag.
Roll cage. Sparco seats. 5 pt harness. Many performance mods. Includes 4 Fikse wheels with Toyo RA-1 tires. Safety: - Roll cage with side bars (t c kline) - Race seats on sliders (Sparco Evo 2) - 5 pt harness (TRS) Performance: - Brake Cooling kit (Bimmerworld) - Euro Floating Rotors - Stainless Steel Brake Lines - Lightweight Flywheel (VAC) - Clutch (VAC) - Short shift kit (UUC) - Transmission Mounts (UUC) - Cold Air Intake (Dinan) - Throttle Body (Dinan) - Sway Bars, Adjustable (UUC) - Exhaust, stainless steel (Rogue Engineering) - Suspension, adjustable (Ground Control, Eibach, Koni) - Wheels, lightweight (Fikse) - Strut Brace - X Brace (Turner Motorsports)
This is a track car. It would knock your teeth out on the street, punish you. Just getting into it would take you 10 minutes to scrunch in and buckle up.
This one has stalled at $6500 - below the reserve. Sure, it's not as nice as the one that sold for $18K, but I'd think it would do better than 1/3 and stalled. :confuse:
Probably the way the 2nd car was presented and described--owned for only a year, mention of rust in the undercarriage (shudder), very few details, higher miles, no AC, suspicious-looking paintwork.
the $18K car had more photos, low miles, rare factory AC, very clean, obviously well-cared for, well-loved car.
Well, the first one is in Laguna, CA, while the second one is in the middle of nowhere half way between Dallas, Texas and the Oklahoma border. May just be the right car in the wrong place?
It always seems curious to me when they leave the car in the garage for pictures. Are they trying to hide something or is the car just to hard to start and back it out is the impression I get.
Lost Alfa in Texas and lost Alfista in Texas.... Sure there are only exit ramps to work with, but you gotta work with what you got.
I now kind of regret buying that spider in 74 when I coulda had a GTV. It was the right thing to do at the time, but now..... I'm sort of looking for a hobby car.
Even at 7K, I'm not going to buy this one, but I'm doing the "Parm Process".... sometime in the next 5 years I'm going to buy one so I'm starting to educate myself.
Assuming that the dreaded "some rust" isn't in all the wrong places, is this one a viable candidate? What's the real number for an Alfa that takes a camel-train to recover and bring to civilization Dallas?
I'd say $10,000 and up for decent, solid GTVs that aren't screwed up.
Areas of concern are rust under both windshields (get a magnet), leaking head gaskets (oil dripping out of back of head), transmission synchros (inevitable but hopefully still shift-able) electrical bugaboos (bad grounds mostly, fixable) finicky SPICA injection (once set up right, it's okay), water leaks into the interior (latex caulk and a wet finger does wonders) broken door handles (so big deal).
Joy to drive, beautiful to look at, not too hard to fix, parts readily available. Still undervalued at $10K-$15K considering the pleasure you get from it.
Yeah, that "tamarack green" was an available color. There used to be a 2-tone green 1957 Fireflite 4-door sedan that showed up at local car shows from time to time back in the early 90's. The body was that same dark metallic green, with the contrast roof and spear in a pale green. Looked really sharp, IMO.
I believe that the same green is on the roof and spear of the car in this ad:
Damn I wish I had an extra $15,000 lying around right now! :sick: Of course, I'd definitely want to see the thing in person. That paint might look good in digital pictures, but might not look near as good in real life.
I don't understand something. The seller says that the DeSoto is a Firedome "with the fire flight option". Is that accurate? I know that the Fireflite was a DeSoto model. My parents owned a navy-blue 4-door Fireflite when I first got my driver's license. I have never heard of a "Fire flight" (sic) option on a Firedome.
But then, I am not an expert on Desotos. Our car did have the "Fireflite" script on the rear fender as in the ad you posted. I noticed that the Ebay car says "Firedome" on the rear fender.
The interior of that DeSoto reminds me a lot of the folks old 57 Plymouth Custom Suburban. Outside it was kind of a light green - aqua. I remember my dad's business partner at the time bought the same car in blue which I liked better. Of course at the time I was trying to talk dad into a tow tone read and white DeSoto..
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As far as I know, the only way to get a 4-bbl was to upgrade to the Fireflite model, which was about $500 more expensive than the Firedome in 1957. However, it came with a standard automatic transmission, the 4-bbl setup, and a nicer interior, so it was probably money very well spent. Now on the cheap Firesweep, which was the shorter Dodge-based model and had a 325 poly-head V-8, you could get it with a 2-bbl (245 hp) or 4-bbl (260 hp). So maybe it was possible to get a 4-bbl on the Firedome if you special ordered it?
My old car encyclopedia mentions that for 1958, the 4-bbl was an option on the Firedome, but I take what that book says with a grain of salt. But I remember the quote as something like "The Firedome, with the optional 305 hp TurboFlash V-8, could do 0-60 in 7.7 seconds and hit 115 mph with little strain". In 1958, the 305 hp was the 361-4bbl, while the Firedome's standard engine was a 295 hp 361-2bbl.
For 1959, my auto encyclopedia doesn't say anything about a 4-bbl setup in the Firedome, but has the Adventurer's hot 383 dual-quad shown as being offered across the board. I don't know if that's true or not. But if it was, I imagine the Dodge-based Firesweep must've been a hot little number with 350 hp under the hood!
The eBay car is definitely a Firedome. I think when they say "With Fireflite option", they just mean they found a 4-bbl, intake manifold, and air cleaner off of a Fireflite and bolted it on the Firedome. I hope they did some internal mods with the engine too though, because wouldn't the 2-bbl and 4-bbl use a different cam?
another mpoar guy. once picture has a dodge ram and chrysler 300 in it. in another picture, you can see a partially disassembled dodge challenger near the garage.
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I noted in the E-Bay advertisement that the seller says his father upgraded the 341 Hemi (stock) with the 4-bbl "fireflite option" and accessories a couple of years after it was purchased. It came with a 2-bbl, according to the ad. I think that part was about mid-way through the text.
So no, it's not a factory Fireflite, but hey, it's got a hemi.
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There used to be a 2-tone green 1957 Fireflite 4-door sedan that showed up at local car shows from time to time back in the early 90's. The body was that same dark metallic green, with the contrast roof and spear in a pale green. Looked really sharp, IMO.
Just wondering, I may have seen this same car! It was a 4-door sedan, green and white, and IIRC, it had Maryland plates that read "JET AGE." This was in the late 80s at the Sully (Plantation) Car Show in Chantilly, VA. I don't have any photos of it unfortunately.
I never could keep the DeSoto model names straight, but those '57 and '58s were great looking cars, as were the Chryslers. My aunt had a '57 Plymouth Savoy 6, nice looking also, but it gave her so much trouble that she traded it for a '59 Chevy.
Pretty much the whole Chrysler line looked great in 1957. They really caught the look for that time. Unfortunately they did rust like mad so there's not a load of them around.
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Just wondering, I may have seen this same car! It was a 4-door sedan, green and white, and IIRC, it had Maryland plates that read "JET AGE." This was in the late 80s at the Sully (Plantation) Car Show in Chantilly, VA. I don't have any photos of it unfortunately.
You know what, I think that is the same car! Once you mentioned the license plate, it clicked in my brain! I think I saw the car twice, at Allens Pond in Bowie Maryland, in 1991 and 1992. There's also a show in August at the race track in Laurel, so I might have seen it there, too. I probably have a picture of it stashed away somewhere. I think the car also appeared in a writeup in the auto section of the Washington Post, or it might've been a smaller paper, like the Prince George's County Journal.
I wonder what ever became of that car?
I never could keep the DeSoto model names straight, but those '57 and '58s were great looking cars, as were the Chryslers.
DeSoto switched their names around a lot back then, and it probably confused a lot of buyers. In 1953-54, the lineup was PowerMaster/Firedome. PowerMaster was the flathead-6 model, and Firedome was the 276.1 Hemi. I don't know if the Firedome had a nicer interior or other extra amenites, as the PowerMasters I've seen have been pretty nice inside.
For 1955-56, the lineup was Firedome/Fireflite, with the high-performance Adventurer being added in mid-year. The name change gave the illusion that DeSoto was reaching into higher-priced territory, but in reality, the Fireflite was priced about where the Firedome had been in '53-54 (adjusting for inflation), while the Firedome was priced about where the PowerMaster had been. The Firedome by this time had a cheaper interior and a 2-bbl V-8, while the Fireflite had a 4-bbl. So the cars were offering some new features compared to the older models, but really didn't move upscale compared to other brands.
1956 was a very good year for DeSoto. While the industry in general cooled off a bit compared to 1955, DeSoto sold almost as many 1956 models. In calendar year sales, which include part of model year 1957, DeSoto actually outsold Chrysler by a small margin, something it had never done before, and would never do again.
For 1957, the DeSoto lineup was expanded by adding the cheap Firesweep series. It was priced around $175-200 less than a comparable Firedome, and was fairly popular, although I imagine it cannibalized some sales from the Firedome. IMO, it was a bit grubby looking. It was on the shorter Dodge frame, which had a 122" wheelbase, compared to 126" for the "real" DeSotos and Chryslers. They used a DeSoto body mated to Dodge fenders and hood, and then stuck the DeSoto grille on. The result was a bit awkward up front, as the DeSoto grille didn't fit too well, and jutted out too far. Also, while the Dodges had a headlight setup that gave the illusion of quad headlights, with a big turn signal mounted inboard of the headlight, the Firesweep just used a single headlight in that space, which IMO gave it a bit of an owl-eyed look.
The Firesweep was also a bit cheap inside. A Dodge Royal was probably a better deal overall. I believe they were a bit lower-priced, but had the same engine and a nicer interior.
DeSoto kept the Firesweep/Firedome/Fireflite/Adventurer lineup from 1957-59. Sales were strong in 1957, at around 117,500. But they plummeted to around 49K for 1958 and 45K for 1959. For 1959, the Firesweep posted modest gains and, interestingly, so did the high-priced Adventurer. But the Firedome/Fireflite, which had been DeSoto's main market in the past, posted a loss.
For 1960, the hierarchy was scrapped, and a two-series lineup was offered, both on the shorter 122" wheelbase that was shared with the Chrysler Windsor and the Dodge Matador/Polara. The cheap model was called Fireflite, but it was priced about midway between the 1959 Firesweep and Firedome. The top model was called Adventurer, and it was slotted price-wise, about midway between the 1959 Firedome and Fireflite. The true high-performance Adventurer was gone, but they did offer a cross-ram 383 setup for the 1960 Adventurer that had 330 hp.
For 1961, just two body styles were offered, a hardtop coupe and hardtop sedan. They were just called "DeSotos", with no model names. That same year, Chrysler introduced the Newport, which was about $100-150 less, and at the point, DeSoto was pretty much made obsolete. For 1962, Chrysler introduced the non-letter 300 series, which was priced around where the Firedome had been, and the New Yorker was coming down in price a bit as well, to distance it from Imperial.
Nice, but a couple things bother me about it. First of all, I'd lose those stupid wheel skirts. Second, the tires don't look right. They look more appropriate to say a big mid-70s to early '80s car, not a 1950s car. The leather/vinyl portion in the middle of the front seat looks like it might be slightly dry-rotted.
I agree too. Andre is a walking talking Chrysler encyclopedia.
If the Internet ever shuts down, and all Chrysler history books get lost, auto historians will flock to Andre to tap onto his wealth of knowledge about Chrysler.
Andre, I bet you have a ton of automotive books at home.
Hmmm....I dunno, unless you do your own work and do some serious scrounging---if you take it in to have alternator, exhaust system, new AC compressor, etc., you're going to put an easy $1500 into it and the car isn't worth much more than that. Maybe $3250 all shined up and running nice?
That is a funny ad. It starts out describing what great condition the car is in, then the further you read, the worse it gets. Exhaust system, alternator, compressor, audio, etc.
If he had started with that, he wouldn't have needed to explain why it was listed as a "parts car". It needs a lot of parts!
Oh, you know me. No "taking it in." AC not necessary, especially if I'm using it strictly for autoX. So alternator and exhaust and my own blood and sweat? Maybe $500. And, yeah, the current bid is close to right. No more than $1k for that car, methinks.
I saw a couple of those when I was looking for a Miata and ended up in the Celica. I'd have bought one like that but wanted something with a big enough trunk to throw a guitar in. The next generation fit the bill on that but was just hanging out of my price range.
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I've been looking at and driving a lot of Miatas. Kinda fun but they feel like little Tonka toys. I like a little more heft and a little more steel on my roadsters or sport coupes.
'53 Vette -- strong money for that car. I loved this sentence:
"numbers matching car with the exception of having a 54 block"
Uh.....since "matching numbers" means the block # matches the VIN #, then this is another way of saying NOT matching numbers....
Good car for someone who has a Vette collection and needs that year to complete the set, but as a "car", it's not much to drive. I'm thinkin' the seller has to look at his 2009 calendar as well as read the Wall Street Journal tomorrow. Probably about half his asking price is where it's at right now, maybe $175K.
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66 Rambler coupe -- nobody cares. Donate it.
51 Ply Cranbrook convertible -- a "street rod project"?!! Philistine!! They only made roughly 4,000 of these throughout 1951 & 1952. Rare car, don't butcher it.
Well, I'm going to try to check out that Z tomorrow. I'm not sure if its what I'm looking for, but only an inspection/drive will tell. May be too slow and/or too miled up for my intented purpose. I see it falls in G stock in the solo rulebook, which pits it against common attendees such as the Civic Si and GTI. I'm not sure it could run with those.
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Maybe more than $5K too high. I'd rather have this one and you could probably get it for under $10K.
These cars are hard to value. Prices in autotrader range from $4,999 to $19,999 for '95 models.
Seriously, my '05 Hyundai Elantra could only do that if you used extreme measures and kept the speed under 60. Are there BMW drivers out there who would actually believe this kind of baloney?
Roll cage. Sparco seats. 5 pt harness. Many performance mods. Includes 4 Fikse wheels with Toyo RA-1 tires. Safety: - Roll cage with side bars (t c kline) - Race seats on sliders (Sparco Evo 2) - 5 pt harness (TRS) Performance: - Brake Cooling kit (Bimmerworld) - Euro Floating Rotors - Stainless Steel Brake Lines - Lightweight Flywheel (VAC) - Clutch (VAC) - Short shift kit (UUC) - Transmission Mounts (UUC) - Cold Air Intake (Dinan) - Throttle Body (Dinan) - Sway Bars, Adjustable (UUC) - Exhaust, stainless steel (Rogue Engineering) - Suspension, adjustable (Ground Control, Eibach, Koni) - Wheels, lightweight (Fikse) - Strut Brace - X Brace (Turner Motorsports)
This GTV went for $18,100 - about what Mr. Shiftright was forecasting.
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This one has stalled at $6500 - below the reserve. Sure, it's not as nice as the one that sold for $18K, but I'd think it would do better than 1/3 and stalled. :confuse:
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$6,500.00
the $18K car had more photos, low miles, rare factory AC, very clean, obviously well-cared for, well-loved car.
"god is in the details"
Hey, I resemble that remark! Honestly, DFWs not a big Alfa area, flat, straight roads, lots of traffic...not much payback.
I now kind of regret buying that spider in 74 when I coulda had a GTV. It was the right thing to do at the time, but now..... I'm sort of looking for a hobby car.
Even at 7K, I'm not going to buy this one, but I'm doing the "Parm Process".... sometime in the next 5 years I'm going to buy one
Assuming that the dreaded "some rust" isn't in all the wrong places, is this one a viable candidate? What's the real number for an Alfa that takes a camel-train to recover and bring to
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This is why a good salesman can make good money.
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Areas of concern are rust under both windshields (get a magnet), leaking head gaskets (oil dripping out of back of head), transmission synchros (inevitable but hopefully still shift-able) electrical bugaboos (bad grounds mostly, fixable) finicky SPICA injection (once set up right, it's okay), water leaks into the interior (latex caulk and a wet finger does wonders) broken door handles (so big deal).
Joy to drive, beautiful to look at, not too hard to fix, parts readily available. Still undervalued at $10K-$15K considering the pleasure you get from it.
These are not Fiats!
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Nice looking car!
Was that the original color? Ad says that there is $2K worth of paint and supplies, so I'm guessing it's been repainted as part of the restoration.
I believe that the same green is on the roof and spear of the car in this ad:
Damn I wish I had an extra $15,000 lying around right now! :sick: Of course, I'd definitely want to see the thing in person. That paint might look good in digital pictures, but might not look near as good in real life.
But then, I am not an expert on Desotos.
Our car did have the "Fireflite" script on the rear fender as in the ad you posted.
I noticed that the Ebay car says "Firedome" on the rear fender.
My old car encyclopedia mentions that for 1958, the 4-bbl was an option on the Firedome, but I take what that book says with a grain of salt. But I remember the quote as something like "The Firedome, with the optional 305 hp TurboFlash V-8, could do 0-60 in 7.7 seconds and hit 115 mph with little strain". In 1958, the 305 hp was the 361-4bbl, while the Firedome's standard engine was a 295 hp 361-2bbl.
For 1959, my auto encyclopedia doesn't say anything about a 4-bbl setup in the Firedome, but has the Adventurer's hot 383 dual-quad shown as being offered across the board. I don't know if that's true or not. But if it was, I imagine the Dodge-based Firesweep must've been a hot little number with 350 hp under the hood!
The eBay car is definitely a Firedome. I think when they say "With Fireflite option", they just mean they found a 4-bbl, intake manifold, and air cleaner off of a Fireflite and bolted it on the Firedome. I hope they did some internal mods with the engine too though, because wouldn't the 2-bbl and 4-bbl use a different cam?
in another picture, you can see a partially disassembled dodge challenger near the garage.
So no, it's not a factory Fireflite, but hey, it's got a hemi.
Just wondering, I may have seen this same car! It was a 4-door sedan, green and white, and IIRC, it had Maryland plates that read "JET AGE." This was in the late 80s at the Sully (Plantation) Car Show in Chantilly, VA. I don't have any photos of it unfortunately.
I never could keep the DeSoto model names straight, but those '57 and '58s were great looking cars, as were the Chryslers. My aunt had a '57 Plymouth Savoy 6, nice looking also, but it gave her so much trouble that she traded it for a '59 Chevy.
You know what, I think that is the same car! Once you mentioned the license plate, it clicked in my brain! I think I saw the car twice, at Allens Pond in Bowie Maryland, in 1991 and 1992. There's also a show in August at the race track in Laurel, so I might have seen it there, too. I probably have a picture of it stashed away somewhere. I think the car also appeared in a writeup in the auto section of the Washington Post, or it might've been a smaller paper, like the Prince George's County Journal.
I wonder what ever became of that car?
I never could keep the DeSoto model names straight, but those '57 and '58s were great looking cars, as were the Chryslers.
DeSoto switched their names around a lot back then, and it probably confused a lot of buyers. In 1953-54, the lineup was PowerMaster/Firedome. PowerMaster was the flathead-6 model, and Firedome was the 276.1 Hemi. I don't know if the Firedome had a nicer interior or other extra amenites, as the PowerMasters I've seen have been pretty nice inside.
For 1955-56, the lineup was Firedome/Fireflite, with the high-performance Adventurer being added in mid-year. The name change gave the illusion that DeSoto was reaching into higher-priced territory, but in reality, the Fireflite was priced about where the Firedome had been in '53-54 (adjusting for inflation), while the Firedome was priced about where the PowerMaster had been. The Firedome by this time had a cheaper interior and a 2-bbl V-8, while the Fireflite had a 4-bbl. So the cars were offering some new features compared to the older models, but really didn't move upscale compared to other brands.
1956 was a very good year for DeSoto. While the industry in general cooled off a bit compared to 1955, DeSoto sold almost as many 1956 models. In calendar year sales, which include part of model year 1957, DeSoto actually outsold Chrysler by a small margin, something it had never done before, and would never do again.
For 1957, the DeSoto lineup was expanded by adding the cheap Firesweep series. It was priced around $175-200 less than a comparable Firedome, and was fairly popular, although I imagine it cannibalized some sales from the Firedome. IMO, it was a bit grubby looking. It was on the shorter Dodge frame, which had a 122" wheelbase, compared to 126" for the "real" DeSotos and Chryslers. They used a DeSoto body mated to Dodge fenders and hood, and then stuck the DeSoto grille on. The result was a bit awkward up front, as the DeSoto grille didn't fit too well, and jutted out too far. Also, while the Dodges had a headlight setup that gave the illusion of quad headlights, with a big turn signal mounted inboard of the headlight, the Firesweep just used a single headlight in that space, which IMO gave it a bit of an owl-eyed look.
The Firesweep was also a bit cheap inside. A Dodge Royal was probably a better deal overall. I believe they were a bit lower-priced, but had the same engine and a nicer interior.
DeSoto kept the Firesweep/Firedome/Fireflite/Adventurer lineup from 1957-59. Sales were strong in 1957, at around 117,500. But they plummeted to around 49K for 1958 and 45K for 1959. For 1959, the Firesweep posted modest gains and, interestingly, so did the high-priced Adventurer. But the Firedome/Fireflite, which had been DeSoto's main market in the past, posted a loss.
For 1960, the hierarchy was scrapped, and a two-series lineup was offered, both on the shorter 122" wheelbase that was shared with the Chrysler Windsor and the Dodge Matador/Polara. The cheap model was called Fireflite, but it was priced about midway between the 1959 Firesweep and Firedome. The top model was called Adventurer, and it was slotted price-wise, about midway between the 1959 Firedome and Fireflite. The true high-performance Adventurer was gone, but they did offer a cross-ram 383 setup for the 1960 Adventurer that had 330 hp.
For 1961, just two body styles were offered, a hardtop coupe and hardtop sedan. They were just called "DeSotos", with no model names. That same year, Chrysler introduced the Newport, which was about $100-150 less, and at the point, DeSoto was pretty much made obsolete. For 1962, Chrysler introduced the non-letter 300 series, which was priced around where the Firedome had been, and the New Yorker was coming down in price a bit as well, to distance it from Imperial.
If the Internet ever shuts down, and all Chrysler history books get lost, auto historians will flock to Andre to tap onto his wealth of knowledge about Chrysler.
Andre, I bet you have a ton of automotive books at home.
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If he had started with that, he wouldn't have needed to explain why it was listed as a "parts car". It needs a lot of parts!
I could also toss a coin between that Z and this Supra. BUTTT... I think I lean towards the Z. The Supra is in nicer shape, and has 40 more hp, but it is also a whopping 500 lbs heavier, according to wiki.
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I saw a couple of those when I was looking for a Miata and ended up in the Celica. I'd have bought one like that but wanted something with a big enough trunk to throw a guitar in. The next generation fit the bill on that but was just hanging out of my price range.
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69 el camino
cross breed the bullitt mustang and charger
chevy phone booth
cranbrook convertible
i like the color
toooo many 9's
seems older than a '72
87 carrera
66 rambler coupe
a deal by the pound
more like a weapons target
liberal use of 'classic'
nicer as a convertible
the double deuce m&m big finish!
Is that an early car phone in the dash of the Monte? Looks funny.
The "classic" Grand Marquis has really uglu window vents. Otherwise it's in nice shape.
M&M Donk, that's funny. I still don't get the trend.
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The Rambler got duplicated.
The Beetle looks to be a 72 body with early 60s fenders - those headlights and tailights are certainly not from 72.
Mercury = not a classic, more like the end of malaise.
The wannabe donk is hilarious...80s MB aftermarket style steering wheel and all.
"numbers matching car with the exception of having a 54 block"
Uh.....since "matching numbers" means the block # matches the VIN #, then this is another way of saying NOT matching numbers....
Good car for someone who has a Vette collection and needs that year to complete the set, but as a "car", it's not much to drive. I'm thinkin' the seller has to look at his 2009 calendar as well as read the Wall Street Journal tomorrow. Probably about half his asking price is where it's at right now, maybe $175K.
1991 Mercury Marquis -- oh, these are "classics" now? Excuse me while I go somewhere and shoot myself.
66 Rambler coupe -- nobody cares. Donate it.
51 Ply Cranbrook convertible -- a "street rod project"?!! Philistine!! They only made roughly 4,000 of these throughout 1951 & 1952. Rare car, don't butcher it.
grasshopper(me), is not ready to take the challenge.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S