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A lot of fun nights back in the day on rt 231 in Deer Park, Long Island and on the service road of the Belt Parkway around JFK airport. That's where dudes threw down real $$$
Who the hell needed a valve cover??
Could be great fun for the money
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Weird. The 6 looks like its on a lot and he doesn't have to time to put it together. Isn't that his job?
New York $4,000 challenge
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Definition of a money pit: 2000 Passat (or Audi)
Head (gasket) case: Pre-2011 Foresters
2000 Passat ---"just needs a cat" --well, if you played this right you might come out okay--you aren't in Calif for instance--you could buy the cat on eBay---but a miled up 2000 Passat doesn't cost that much to buy outright. You should be able to buy a nice clean one for around $3200. So I'm thinking there's not enough incentive in the asking price to justify the risk (as in...WHAT happened to the cat in the first place?)
A Subaru 2.5L engine with 150K that has never had head gaskets? NO WAY !!
2001 Dodge Ram 4X4 --that's a good deal there!
1992 Camry Wagon --- fair enough---does a broken speedo matter in NY?
2003 BMW 4.4 -- surely not worth the cost of engine replacement. This car should be about....well....free, actually.
My wife's nephew, who is clueless about cars, finally got himself one in the fall. A ratty in out and under the hood 1999 or 2000 passat. A V6 even. With about 190k on it and ran like it. We checked the oil and I think it was 2 quarts low and it did puff on start up.
That will likely cost him more than a cheap lease overall.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
wonder how many miles that Ram has. That is damned cheap for a 4x4 with what appears to be no rust.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
You could sell that Ram with a blown engine for $1000. Only iffy part is the transmission--if that goes, so goes the truck. If that truck were posted in my area, I would have gone out and bought it right here and now.
At the end of the video, I got a little excited, thinking "I'd drive that"...then I read the description. As my lease ends in under a year, I still don't know what I am going to do. Lease again, or buy a car - but I don't really want a "normal" car.
This guy is a very personable MB specialist I patronized when I lived in the area. He has a large amount of DIY videos, and has a successful business writing DIY books and selling part. I've seen the car before, and it's gorgeous, one of the better W116 diesels left, no doubt.
More 4 grand challenge
http://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/4336712066.html Says home made paint job but actually looks OK in the pics
http://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/4340440845.html Another Mazda. Looks like decent transportation
http://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/4309774893.html kind of like the edmunds car.... if the edmunds car was a POS
http://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/4340460239.html Cop engine, cop tranny, cop tires
http://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/4327336183.html Audi w scary miles
http://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/4336798613.html Forgotten Euro car
http://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/4303951133.html Another weird miss from GM. Why does the Aztec get killed while this gets a pass?
http://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/4335904441.html Shoot it in the snow with the window missing. I like it.,
http://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/4340359871.html See these with a lot more miles. This really might be pretty good
http://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/4326878135.html This is how you shot a car
http://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/4319554301.html Looks like a stormtrooper from the back
1994 Probe---a lot of miles but seems like he loved it.
mazda 626---cheap 'n cheerful--I'd check out that transmission though
1997 Lexus----woof! woof! Seller is pulling the rip cord on this one.
2004 Maxx ---GM's version of the Saab 900 5-door hatchback. Seems harmless enough
2001 Audi A4 --- just take your money and toss it in a furnace.
2000 Mystique --- good for pizza delivery?
97 Pathfinder ---seems fair enough
95 Honda --- a new window is only $130 but I'd rather sell it without one.
00 Cadillac --- Hello? Ace Wrecking?
2000 Ford Taurus Wagon --- you could always live in it if it breaks down.
on the mazda, the v6 auto trans was actually fine. It was the Ford auto trans (CD4E, IIRC) they coupled with the 4-cyl that was a problem.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Thanks for clearing that up---I wasn't sure. I knew there was some rather bad thing going on with the 626 trannies.
I actually kinda liked those Contours and Mystiques when they first came out, but it seems like they didn't age too well. They were also a bit behind the times with regards to size, I think. Essentially a compact car in a time when most of its competition was making the jump to borderline midsize. It was a replacement for the Tempo/Topaz, but at that time, cars like the Malibu and Stratus, replacements for the Corsica and the last vestiges of the K-cars, were really shaking off their compact roots. And, by that time, the likes of the Camry and Accord weren't exactly tiny things, either. The Altima was still a bit on the small side, at least IMO my Mom and stepdad's '99 seemed so. But it would soon be replaced by the much bigger 2002.
If legit that patchy is a screaming deal. I would take it for that money if no scary surprises on a test drive
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Would depend if the Pathy is a 2wd or 4wd. very little to go on in that ad. A 2wd XE really ain't worth much.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
yeah, gotta avoid those 4-cyl autos. I think the average lifespan was like 80k miles. Just awful.
I really liked my 626 (LX V6). I just messed up and got the wrong model. Should have gotten an ES V6 5-spd. That's the one to have.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
My sister had a 96 Contour. I drove it once, it did have kind of a "modern Tempo" feel to it. Hers was a weird kind of purple color - ah the 90s. It held together really well up to a point - when it hit about 150K, started to fall apart. By 155K it had a ton of issues, especially electrical. She got another car in 2004, and it needed a lot of work by then (of course, she might not have been the most careful owner).
I've read those cars look just like a Euro Ford Mondeo, but are actually different.
That car is not too far from me and it looks OK. Driving by, I assumed that it would be about 3 grand. I think that the front hubs suggest 4WD
was thinking the same thing about the hubs, but I'm not familiar enough with those to know for sure. Could just be caps for all I know.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
well, this was available when i bookmarked it this morning. That's not an original color, right? And those wheels are pretty awful, but I still like the car.
Pretty car
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Movie car - I was 16 when this came out, I remember it.
Nice 560SEC, what a price - seems to be sitting too high.
Am I wrong or is the best 1990 560SEC in the world worth about half what he's asking?
2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])
Contours and Mystiques--I always thought there was something odd about the cut of the rear door. Our friends had one for a long time, and when it needed a cat, it needed more than one. I wasn't aware of a car having more than one until that time. Theirs had a nice leather interior.
560SEC -- the man is out of his mind. The current bid of $8600 is market correct and then some.
Here's a nice clean one begging at $7200. Yeah the miles are higher (but not bad for the year--about 4K a year), so if anyone thinks the lower miles are worth an extra $29,000, well, good luck with that.
check out the condition of this car--the "signed" DB sticker in the windshield tells you that it is original glass that came with the car.
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/4334715752.html
Now that's one that I'd be proud to have in my driveway. Beautiful car, but would the maintenance and repair costs be more than twice that for, say, a Camry or Accord of the same year?
It's a crap shoot. On a car like that, you take it to a Benz specialist, have him go over it very carefully (even spend $300 to do an extra thorough job), and if it comes out clean, you buy it and cross your fingers. At least you've avoided obvious faults like bad tires, suspension issues, suspicious leaks, damage, rust, scored rotors, rotted exhaust system, etc. Those engines are pretty rugged. I guess the biggest sweat on an old German Luxo Barge is the transmission (which pretty much totals the car) and the HVAC system, which is very labor-intensive to repair.
I'd take a gamble on that $7200 car if it passed its physical at Hans and Dieter's Camp for Overweight Coupes.
That's what I did on my 2003 MINI, one of the worst rated cars in the history of mankind, and it turned out, averaged out over the years, to have been a good purchase. Since the MINI specialist KNEW all the factory defects, we were able to intercept them.
the collective wisdom of a marque specialist is a very valuable thing.
That linked car looks like a good deal - I'd want to go over it with a fine tooth comb, but if it checks out - might be the right car for someone out there. The low mileage car is amusingly overpriced by a good twice or more, but it's pretty anyway.
Those windshield stickers can be found for no more than $5. By the way that one is wrinkled, I want to say it has been replaced, or removed and carelessly re-applied.
Regarding maintenance, of course - it's about 10x more complex than an early 90s Camcord, and has a big thirsty V8 - it will cost more to run and maintain. If someone wants an economical car, a 20+ year old S-class isn't for them.
Really nice super low mileage models can pass 20-25K, in Europe. But those stars aren't aligned for this car. He's double or more what the market here will bear.
that's possible.
You mean overpriced by 400% don't you? You could buy yourself some pretty tasty Mercedes for $36,000 that are way more modern, fun and fuel efficient.
It's a 10-15K car to the most obsessed enthusiast buyer, for sure. For a 36K SEC, I'd want a pristine low mileage documented zero needs widebody AMG or Koenig Special.
I don't know if modern or fun or fuel efficient are on the minds of anyone who would want that car.
I'm not sure why anyone would want that car at a premium price. It's too new to be a "classic", it's too old for a daily driver, it's not sporty enough to track it or autocross it, it's on a downscale in depreciation, so you'll lose money on it, and it's far too common to stand out in a crowd.
Basically, it's a nice used car.
Exactly. Too old to be new, too new to be old. It would wow people at a MB show, but that's a steep price to pay for one day a year of fun.
Bids are pretty high now, although very weird bidding pattern. Do people really bid up in multiple $4,000 increments 4 days before the auction ends?
All it takes is a couple of overmonied people with hot tempers and more money than sense.
Yeah but if I bid $12K, do you really bid $16K 10 minutes later, and then someone else bids $20K a few minutes after that? Is the world really that coo-coo now?
Many people don't understand how auctions work. Also, money and competency often exist in inverse proportions. Ebay can be a bargain center, or Barrett-Jackson.
This listing confuses the hell out of me. He indicates up front that he did or had a ton of work done since he bought it in 2008... but then goes on to describe all the stuff that was done by the previous owner. Sounds to me like he did nearly nothing since purchasing.
Kinda odd paint scheme. Wonder how bad the rust really is. A bit rough around the edges. And where the hell are the interior shots? People suck at selling cars.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Rust looks bad. Has goop lathered all over the "doglegs" that attach body to frame. I wouldn't buy this car blind, that's for sure. Needs to be poked over.
oh, look at that, he posted way more pics than when I looked just a little while ago. Rust is definitely strange. Rockers and floor actually look pretty good, but those body mounts are in bad shape. Weird.
Anyhoo, this is cool. Feel like we've seen this one before. What's the real value here?
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I wonder if those '58-60 Lincolns hold any kind of record, like being the largest/heaviest unit-bodied car ever built? I know the '61+ models were really heavy too, even though they were a good deal smaller...heck, they might actually beat the '58-60 on a pound-per-linear-inch basis!
'69-73 Imperials and '74-78 Imperial/New Yorkers got pretty long and heavy too, but I think those '58-60 Lincolns may still have outweighed them. Definitely out-wheelbased them too, as the '69-73 Imperial was "only" on a 127" wb, while the '74-78 shrunk to 124". I think those '58-60 Lincolns were around 131" in wheelbase.
I never knew Lincoln went to unibodies for a while. Failed experiment?
I'm shocked that the R8 guy actually found a Renault mechanic.
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ha. yeah. I'm sure much better described as a "mechanic who saw a Renault once."
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R8-- these are neat little cars. Probably worth close to asking price if it's really nice. You can get fantastic MPG out of these things. 40 mpg is possible. Very comfy, good heaters, easy to fix---only downside of course is parts and leisurely performance. Much improved over the Dauphine. Probably trim pieces and auto glass are unobtanium.
Be the only one on your block. The only one at the car show. Maybe the only one in your state.
ya know, I bet we have looked at this Renault before. The video linked in the ad is from Sept 2012 and that led me to yet another video from May 2012 where one of the comments is about the car being listed on bringatrailer. And you can see in this video that the paint is in pretty bad shape.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMgdsXhVP5g
The engine bay has definitely been tidied up if the craigs pics are more recent. I would say maybe even the hood was repainted, but he says original paint, so more likely the poor res pic is just hiding what this video shows.
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Yup, same car all right.
Yeah, the '58-60 Lincolns were unit-body, as was the '61-69 style. They went back to body-on-frame for 1970. Ford Thunderbirds were also unit-body from 1958 through 1971. In 1972, they went to the Mark IV platform, which was body-on-frame.
I'm not sure if the 1969-71 Mark III was unit-body or body-on-frame.
Ford really went hot and heavy into unit-body cars, as the Falcon, Fairlane, and Mustang were also unit-body, leaving just the full-sized Fords and Mercurys to stay body-on-frame. But then in the 70's, Ford seemed to do a reversal, as the big lincolns, and then the Thunderbird, went to body-on-frame. In 1972, the midsized cars went from unit-body to body-on-frame, as well.
I think in those days, unit-body construction made less and less sense as you got into bigger cars. IIRC, it was harder to engineer a smooth, isolated ride into a unit-body car, than with a body-on-frame. And back then, most people wanted to be isolated from the road, not in tune with it.
I found out about unit-body the hard way with my 1969 Econoline. The only things that separate from that beast are the doors, grille, hood, and axles! Woe be unto you if there is any body damage or rot on one of those!