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Lemko, re.: '65 New Yorker--since a kid I always liked how those had clear taillight lenses with red bulbs. On newer vehicles, I dislike that though...maybe because the taillights are so high with no trim around them now, like then.
'65 and '66 Chryslers are some of my very favorites, styling-wise.
I remember the six-window sedans seeming elegant, although I know they are not 'hardtops'.
I always thought it was unusual that only the "C" pillars had vinyl "tops" on those Chryslers when so-equipped.
Well it might be worth it to someone for historical value but as a restoration project, it would be a poor choice. Nobody really wants limos because they are so hard to store and you can't really take them out and enjoy them. And being a relatively "modern" limo (basically I would guess a stretch of a stock car), I'm not sure many people care how rare it actually is. It would appeal to the crowd with the biggest enthusiasm and the smallest wallets.
What a shame. Looks OK up top, but its terminal underneath, as far as I'm concerned. Price is looney. Small I6, auto trans, and bad bones. Its only good for body and interior parts.
You sure about that engine? I've had bigger exhaust on 4-cyl cars.
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It's amusing, too, that some people think if it's not a convertible, it's a 'hardtop'.
Vin decodes as 318 1-2BBL 8 Cylinder "LA" engine.
That Falcon shouldn't even be allowed on the road with that frame rust. Scary, very scary.
I had to laugh at the question/answer posted on the ad..
Q: Just a FYI your charger is a rally model it's not a base and worth a lot more
A: MY INTERNET GIRL SUCKS
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The 318 instead of a 440 might offset that.
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Really? That's a "scary" amount of rust? You wouldn't want to see the frame on my plow truck, then! Hehehehe.
The only thing that concerns me about that Falcon is the rust is around the leaf spring, so it could let go fairly easily, I guess.
As for that Charger, I had a feeling it was something above a base model at least. The second letter in that VIN, "H", stands for "High Trim Level". Usually, it was a mid-level trim though. My '68 Dodge Dart 270 had the "H". If it was a GT it would have had "P" for "Premium Trim Level". Not sure what a GTS would've had. The cheap trim level was "L" for 'Low".
Chrysler carried those designations for awhile, too. My '79 Newport had the "H", while both New Yorkers have the "P". The 5th Ave Edition was a trim package and not a separate model, so as far as I know, it is not denoted anywhere in the VIN. Possibly in the fender tag, though?
Man, that frame looks very crispy around the leaf spring. I'm sure that's what's keeping the bidding so very low; other than that, the car looks nice if you like that era Falcon.
I give props to the seller for being honest enough to photograph that. When I bought my '64 Studebaker hardtop long-distance, the seller stopped just short of showing in photos what I consider bad holes on the driver's floor. He also said he'd not hesitate to drive it from upper Wisconsin to NE OH where I lived. When the car got here (I hired a trucking co. to ship it), the steering was so loose and braking made it dive to the right, I wouldn't have driven it ten miles that way!
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Yep. Fender tag and build sheet. Andre did you find any or all the build sheets in your car collection? In '79 My dad bought a new Monaco SW and about a year or so later I was cleaning out his car and found the "broadcast sheet" in the springs under the driver seat.
I ended up finding a couple of build sheets in my '69 Dart GT. One of them was under one of the front bucket seats in the springs, but I can't remember which. I forget where the other was. Supposedly, it was common to put several in per car. Never did find any in the other cars, though. But, I never really looked for them either.
That Falcon shouldn't be allowed on the road with that engine and transmission. It can't get out of its own way. Sheesh, I didn't know that they still offered that pathetic 144 c.i. wheezer in 1963. And the automatic was still a 2-speed. The very combination I had in the 1960 Falcon I drove in school. I still get flashbacks of being out-accelerated by garbage trucks.
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You know what they say: "It's not the rust you see, it's the rust you don't see that's scary".
Frame rust on spring perches, frame dog=legs (where frame attaches to body),and crossmembers is always serious. That body has to be lifted completely off and the frame cleaned and re-inforced.
It looks like they must have drilled some new holes to attach the rear spring shackles. The original mounting points with a bushing are a little further to the left in one of the pictures.
The fact that that Falcon sits higher than factory spec is a clue that your comment may also explain its higher ground clearance.
**First day of spring. Maybe there's some cars to be found Long Island edition. **
http://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/4385742239.html Interesting story. I assume nuts price
http://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/4385508029.html Why do you take a car this far and then not tend to the odds and ends?
http://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/4385458069.html Real curious about that stereo. What does an investment in a crazy stereo yield? 25 cents on the dollar?
http://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/4385370196.html One owner for 46 years
http://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/4365540881.html I don't really know much about the car... like how much it's worth
http://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/4370706723.html Short on details but 20 feet away pics look good
http://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/4384978713.html Great advertising, but not great enough to deal with how it drives
Oh, man. What a fantastic little beast! How it drives?! This guy wants a buyer; there's no way he could go into detail on that and get one!
These things are amongst the most annoying/difficult to drive vehicles on the road built in the last 60 years (and probably more). There's really no up-side there, but I sure like them. My 1969 is a beast to drive, and yet I'd call it refined compared to the prior generation (e.g., the van for sale in that ad). No power assist on anything, you sit on top of the front wheels (the steering is actually ahead of the wheels, which is an odd sensation), three on the tree.
I strongly suspect that the majority of drivers out there couldn't handle this little van (and not just because it has a manual transmission).
Wow..only six bucks!
there is a benz identical to that one that lives right outside my neighborhood. Even same color. Drives past my house occasionally, with a nice waft of hydrocarbons to go along with it. From back when cars smelled like they had engines.
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1972 Porsche 911T -- seller is suffering from delirium. As a "barn find" last run in 1989, or perhaps run briefly maybe by someone ten years ago, or so they say--essentially this car will need new brakes and calipers, an engine refresh or rebuilt, and heaven knows what else. '72 is a year for 911s which contains all kinds of traps. For one, the transmission seal must be replaced from INSIDE the transmission and if you don't, it ruins the clutch---given 25 years of sitting, what do you think?
this car is worth maybe...$5000 ??? to a very brave and generous person. The $40K price would bring you a "local show" car. I don't know what he things he owns, but this is just a "T" from 72, not an "S" from 69. And it needs body work and paint?
Paint-- $10,000
Engine -$15000
Calipers, brakes -- $4000
Tires--$800
Interior - ?? $4000 on up
Transmission reseal, clutch, pressure plate, etc $4000
So, in reality, the car is worthless except for parts, or maybe worth $5000 to someone with the DIY skills to do all the work.
280SE looks a little tatty inside for those miles - but they have 5 digit odometers. Probably a little steep, it would have to look nicer in person than in the pics to warrant the money.
Here's something seldom seen anymore - not the least prone vehicle to fall apart, period colors might be a detriment, weird description format is off-putting, cool 80s style license plates.
@fintail
I forgot VW even made that one, although I recognized it immediately.
The Dasher is "rare" because everyone junked them I think.
If you think back the past few decades, VW really has similar image and experience problems with D3. They sold a lot of crap in the US and had a lousy dealer network and attitude. Maybe that's why some of the new models are off to a slower than expected start from their new US factory?
My sister reminded me today that she had a first year Rabbit. You can imagine how that went, but she's pretty hard on cars anyway. Her 2000 New Beetle had lots of problems too and the dealer experience was pretty bad for the first five or six years. Not sure what happened to the management, but her local dealer did get better before she finally sold the VW.
VW still doesn't quite understand the U.S. market I think.
Those early Beetles were horrible. Every one I came across always had some electrical problems or tranny issues. And at that time I believe VW's warranty was a lousy 2 year/40km (at least here in Canada). Probably something equally poor in the US.
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Her check engine light was always on, and she had all kinds of trouble with the power windows. Pretty enjoyable car to drive and ride in though.
The Renault and Fiats were much better cars than the VW, in terms of just about everything....EXCEPT....no parts and no service! That's where VW excelled. Oh, and pretty easy car to fix when it broke, which was often enough.
well, most any idiot with a socket set could replace a VW engine in their driveway on a Saturday. Pretty sure you couldn't do that with a Renault.
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My cousin (after owning a few classic Beetles) had one of the first New Beetles ever sold here in NJ. He waited a good while for it. Within the first few hundred miles something went wrong and for lack of a better explanation nuked the entire wiring harness. VW bought it back on the spot and gave him a much better equipped model for the trouble. The second one was pretty flawless, although he modded the heck out of it so he was always working on it anyway.
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Maybe a nice alternative to a new diesel car
That's nice and I'm sure some diesel fan/mb fan will pay that kind of money for it. We just sold a 00 Golf TDi, cloth interior, auto, on the lot with 200kms (120k miles) for $7k.
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Went for a drive today - running fine, turn signals working. First good Sunday drive the car has had since the beginning of January. Started right up, too.
Looks better with age!
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My fintail was a great running car. I used it every weekday to commute from Manhattan to New Jersey, rain or shine for 2 years and it never broke down. Of course, I WAS working for the Mercedes factory office at the time
Even the AC worked. Creme color with tan upholstery.
The car is photogenic, all of the little flaws mysteriously disappear
Shifty, did your car get rusty? I have to imagine in that climate, they could age poorly, as MBs of that era can really rust. I think most fintails with AC had a dealer installed "kuhlmeister" unit with a York compressor - no factory AC until the final run 280SE 3.5 cars,I think.
I had just a little rust in the bottom of the rear quarters in the trunk area, but I patched that up easily enough--no rust anywhere else, no. The car had very good care from previous owners. It was once owned by an officer on the USS Nautilus. The 3.8 Jaguar MkII I had previous to that, though, looked like it DOVE with the USS Nautilus.
OK you fintail guys....here's one for ya!
http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/4389838010.html
I've seen that W110 on CL for months. It looks pretty nice, but the price is too high - if it has no rust and drives well, he's in the 4-5K range. It's a lower line car, and they just haven't zoomed up in price yet. Might be a candidate to ship to Europe, where it would bring twice the money if it has no mechanical or structural needs.
Regarding rust - my car has a little in the trunk, surface mostly, maybe the tiniest perforation. There was some good bubbling on the drivers side rear fender bottom - I patched this up with bondo when I was about 20, and did the quality of work one would expect from a 20 year old - looks awful up close, but from 10 feet is hard to spot. There's also a very small bubble in the drivers side front fender rocker area - I've had the car for nearly 20 years now, and it hasn't grown. Otherwise no real rust to speak of, the car was lucky to be sold new in CA, and then moved up to the PNW in the late 70s.
I suppose they don't rust hard compared to a 60s British car. I've seen some pretty rusty fintails though - one parts car I regret not buying had Flintstone floors - but a complete AC setup.
@Shifty
Did the seller of your Merc include a bottle of stop leak?
http://www.barsproducts.com/blog/bar-s-leaks-and-the-historic-1958-uss-nautilus-mission
Oh I think that WAS the guy's name---LOL! Andersen. No, my car was maintained by the guys at the Mercedes Technical School, so it's a fintail that died and went to heaven.
vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rch/cto/4373385590.html
This would be a cool project for someone towing a vintage Benz show car or race car. But it looks like a it needs a frame off restoration especially if it uses "beer kegs as gas tanks".
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For the Studebaker guys....
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cto/4386949093.html
I have always liked these cars... don't know how much I would want manual steering and brakes in one though... Supposedly going onto Ebay... any predictions on price?
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cto/4392028962.html
the MB truck was interesting. Waste of a bus maybe. Probably impossible to turn that into something safe and useful. But, if you happen to have a modern chassis and want to make the cab fit? That could work!
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That MB truck is something, as is shown in the pics, it is a cut down O319 microbus - which is a fairly rare vehicle in NA. I hope the donor car was already rotten. Beer kegs for gas tanks doesn't bode well - could be something with a 50K restoration. Maybe extend the wheelbase and make it into a vintage car hauler, would look good with a 190SL vintage racer on the back.
Speaking of Vancouver CL MBs, Here's a goodie, gotta love the 15 year import rules - a couple of these listed right now, lots of freakshow value.
Studebaker looks nice enough, other car is flagged as people spamming their ebay ads should be.
Wiring looks kinda scary. Bring a magnet and see if it'll stick.