Project Cars--You Get to Vote on "Hold 'em or Fold 'em"

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  • gsemikegsemike Member Posts: 2,420
    That car is pretty underwhelming for a grand:

    - It's an automatic
    - The custom wheels are chrome mods which are about the cheapest wheels on Earth
    - It's got 167k and the vague notation that it needs "some shop work". I hate when these guys aren't more specific about these things. If it needs something, put it out there so that buyers will have an inkling of what they're getting in to. I would think that it would save alot of the seller's time.

    By 76, the Capris had gotten bloated and Americanized. The earlier models had alot more European charm.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,038
    when I was a kid too. Just something about them that seemed exotic, compared to the typical small car you saw driving around at the time. When I was a kid I had a Matchbox Capri. Dunno if I still have it packed away somewhere or if it was one of the ones that met the vise when I decided to play junkyard one day. :cry:
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,478
    add me to the list of fans from when I was young. But, I really had a soft spot for the earlier ones too.

    This is just not a nice example of the breed. Find a clean 5 speed, in red, then we can talk.

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  • lemmerlemmer Member Posts: 2,689
    Fulvia

    Oh yeah, that car (if in very good shape) should be worth $12,000--$15,000. It's a steal at $5K if it's a straight car. You could double your money.

    Wouldn't call it "rare" though--they made about 7,000 of them....


    Turns out you were exactly right. It was a steal... of someone's eBay account. I bid on the car. eBay cancelled the auction because of fraud/illegal use of an account or something.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Wow I wonder how often that happens.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,492
    I had that same Matchbox Capri...I think it was a pinkish red metallic. I too remember sending cars to the 'crusher' - for me it was an old foot operated/sewing machine with the cast iron bottom...I would get that thing going fast and it would smash a car. I remember a Majorette Saab 99 ended up there...I wish I had that car now. Probably no more than a $5-10 item today.

    And yeah, the earlier Capris were better. I wonder how many bloated ones are still left.

    Someone has a sense of humor

    Here's a nice looking old yacht
  • lemmerlemmer Member Posts: 2,689
    Pretty often, I think.

    About a week before the Fulvia I put in a lowball bid on a nice local 240SX. eBay took away the listing and sent me a similar email.

    It has happened to me a couple of times before that also. I have always just been a lowball bidder in all the instances. I doubt I would even send a deposit to most individuals. I would just go look at the car almost immediately, and pay for it if was as represented.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Yeah that worries me about ebay buying. Finding good local cars can be hard and I wouldn't want to bid on a car that I couldn't go take a look at first.
  • oregonboyoregonboy Member Posts: 1,650
    It seems like a disproportionate number of them are located in Florida. :confuse:

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,478
    I'll take the Shelby, and with my change, buy the Z-28 Camaro he also has listed, BIN 8Kish.

    There is actually a decent project car in his listings. an older Chevy PU (a '64?). Must be cheap, if you can get a Shelby for 9 grand!

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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,038
    I'd love an old GMC pickup like that! Well, perhaps a little more complete.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,478
    Well, if you want one, probably won't be finding a cleaner one than that!

    Not even that far from me. Good thing I'm not interested!

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  • lemmerlemmer Member Posts: 2,689
    I bid a quarter, just so I could get a scam notice to show you guys. This stuff is rampant on eBay.

    The following is a notice from eBay Trust & Safety regarding:

    Item Number - 4617239613

    Item Title - Ford : Mustang

    Our records show that you placed a bid on this item. We removed this item from the Site and cancelled your bid because it appears that the seller's account has been compromised and used by an unauthorized third party. The seller's privileges to trade on eBay may be temporarily suspended while we investigate this matter further. Due to privacy concerns we will not be able to share further details related to this seller.

    If the seller asks you to complete this transaction outside of eBay, we strongly recommend that you do not proceed with the transaction and do not respond to the seller. Transactions for items listed on eBay but then completed off of the eBay platform are not covered by buyer protection programs offered by eBay and can be highly indicative of fraud.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,690
    I'm probably going to wish I hadn't asked..., but why does the Camero need a new paint job as soon as you buy it. It looks good.

    It looks better than the retro Camaro I saw on Motor Trend at my doctor's office Friday!!!

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,492
    Think about it...why would a really nice looking 69 Camaro be going for a mere $1600? Legit ones go for like 15-20K and can go a lot higher.

    I'll put it this way...it probably has no legit title nor legit plates...

    The ad is a joke, I think.
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Member Posts: 4,116
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-944-Great-Project-car_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQc- ategoryZ6434QQitemZ4615887744QQrdZ1

    Gotta stay away from 80s German cars. So this car needs serious motor work (bent valve) which means one of the pistons is probably fubar, being an interference design, which would put me instantly upside down as far as repair costs vs car value. The motor should probably be gone through anyway, the front seals are pretty notorious in early cars for leaking...oh and I heard something about the steering system but can't remember what.
    All for a car no quicker than my 10 year old Honda. :confuse:
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,492
    Parts car

    It must be the same as with older MB - the cheapest will be the most expensive.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,690
    I was afraid of that.

    I recall driving a 69 on a test drive. I hit 80 in 2nd gear on the turbohydromatic. That thing would move--350 IIRC.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,492
    Now the 69 Camaro was a Chevy to be proud of....esp relative to most anything since I was born...

    It's a freakshow alright...maybe a parts car at half the price

    Not a project, not the best spec, but cool

    That famous Jag resale value
  • bumpybumpy Member Posts: 4,425
    An unmolested MkIV Supra? That's a rare find... too bad it's a slushbox.
  • gsemikegsemike Member Posts: 2,420
    The ad is a goof. The car is a 68, not a 69, and even if it had a straight 6, it would be worth 10 grand if it looks close to that good in person.

    By saying that it will need new paint, I think he is implying that you need to hide the car from somebody, most likely the police.

    Aaahhh... the joys of a free forum
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,038
    I wonder how many buffoons will think it has a big-block under the hood, though? One mistake Chrysler made was giving cars trim level names that were the same as engine displacements.

    I remember a few years back, someone wanted to buy my '68 Dart. Now I told him that I honestly didn't know what V-8 it had. The guy I bought it from told me it was a 318, rebuilt around the 242,000 mile mark, and it definitely has some kick to it, but years later when I did a VIN decode, I found out it originally only had a 273. I don't think you can tell the difference between a 318 and 273 just from looking at them. It's stamped on the block, but on my car it's hard to access, and covered with years of gunk. Anyway, after I told the guy that, he said "Oh, it's a 270". What?! I told him that a 270 was an old Dodge engine from the 50's. I think it was offered both as a Hemi and a Poly-head. "No, it's a 270. Says so right on the car." Now that one I couldn't figure out. My car says "V-8" on the fenders and "Dodge" on the hood, and that's it. I pulled off the trim that said "Dart" when I repainted it, and never bothered to put it back on. Then, it finally hit me. On the glovebox door, it says "Dart 270". This buffoon, a self-proclaimed Dart expert, mistook the trim level for the engine displacement! :blush:

    Hmmm, I think I'm gonna go track down one of those old AMC Ambassador 990's. Bet those would be a real stump puller! :shades:
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Wow! Those '60s Coronets were awesome man! They came with big block 440 V-8s and even had a 500 like my Cadillac! But they were nothing compared to the AMC Ambassadors that had monstrously huge 770 and 990 cid V-8s!!! Come to think of it, didn't my girlfriends 1966 Ford Galaxie have a huge 500 engine? It says so on the fender?
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Darn! You stole my joke!!!
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    ...must've been pretty weak as they only had 88 and 98 cid displacement engines! Of course the real hotrod was the Pontiac 6000! How did they cram such a huge block in there?
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    And AWD on the later models. :P
  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,715
    used to drive me crazy when someone would insist that the Shelby GT350 Mustangs had a 350 cu in motor!!

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    BMW 850----major money pit.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,038
    these old first-gen Legend coupes Anything scary about these that can rear its ugly head as they age? This one sounds like it has some generic old-age issues (a/c not working, power windows getting old, interior parts breaking) but I wonder if it would make a good beater?

    I think the only thing that would worry me is the tranny being slow to engage overdrive...is that a sign of impending doom? Or is it just one of those little things like how my '79 NYer does its torque convertor shudder-dance around 45 mph, for years now, but will never seem to get any worse?
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,492
    Yeah those are known to puke up trannys. I'd just spend a few grand more and get a totally good one.

    Odd that it is cloth.
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Member Posts: 4,116
    Find a Legend 5spd. They are great cars, a true sports sedan. Early Acuras still had the Honda lightness, but that had a 2.6 or 2.7l V6. It felt much like the Accords of that era (in a good way) but considerably more powerful.
    One of my roommates had a couple and they were always a nice drive. Now that I think about it, I can't remember either of them failing.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,697
    For the price, I like #1 the best (definitely the best project), but I'd be sorely tempted on #2 (manual and 4wd)were it not for the seller's excessive asking $ (1000 has not met reserve?). There's something about an auto tranny in these old workhorses that strikes me as odd/incompatible....
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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,697
    Gorgeous..... but $9,900? No thanks.
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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,038
    I think this big bruiser would be really cool! I always thought it would be cool to buy an old school bus and convert it into a motorhome.

    Here's a description of it: "1956 GMC Bus/Motorhome - 1.5 ton, short wheelbase, 396, 4spd, typical amenities, nostalgic interior, motorhome conversion done by Novelty Carriage Works of Spokane, WA. $1,500."

    The guy's got a lot of neat looking old GM stuff on his website, but unfortunately I imagine most of it is better off looked at and reminisced over, but not touched. :sick:
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,697
    1949 Chevy 1 1/2 ton flatbed - Newer 235, runs good, 5 window cab, brakes rebuilt but still needs work. $800

    That is a project I would undertake were it not for a cost-prohibitive tow and three projects ahead of it...... :cry:
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  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Well, you could also paint it blue and cover it with colored squares and rectangles like the "Partridge Family."
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,038
    I was actually thinking of that! I also wonder if an old bus would be a sturdier platform than an old motorhome. I always liked the old Travcos of the 70's, but they were fiberglass, and I'm sure would be a pain to maintain once that stuff starts to go. And old bus, which is all metal, just seems like it would hold up longer.
  • ghuletghulet Member Posts: 2,564
    Anyone want a roach 600SL?:

    http://chicago.craigslist.org/car/137799344.html

    Let's try to figure out the 'per mile' cost on this vehicle, hmmm?
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,492
    Or how much it would take to get that sad 600SL into decent condition, compared to what you could buy a decent one for with no work needed...roach indeed.

    Now here's a deal on a SLOW beater of sorts

    A great pretender
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,697
    "A great pretender"

    At least it has the fin on it..... those camaros/firebirds looked so hideous without them! :surprise: Do you suppose that 6 could really pull off 30 mpg?
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  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Maybe going down hill with a tail wind in neutral.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,492
    LOL you beat me to it

    I was going to suggest maybe with the engine off, too.
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