Project Cars--You Get to Vote on "Hold 'em or Fold 'em"

xwesx

isellhondas said:

Oh I used to go to Fairbanks on business trips and I totally agree with you. If you walk through a row of cars in a parking lot, at least half of them will have busted windshields. At LEAST half!

Yep. When vehicles are posted for sale here, they typically have the statement "Alaskan windshield." LOL

omarman

Seller doesn't offer a pic of his $60k "Black Widow" project car. SEDCO gets dropped a couple times in the ad copy but I guess the seller forgot to sprinkle "tribute" in the mix.

omarman

Little less than 7 hours to go on this 1974 Camaro Z-28 TYPE LT. Just over $21k bid and reserve not met. I wanted this when I was 15. Still do. Seller wants $35,500. Wow.

stickguy

I love that Camaro. Would actually prefer it in hunter green. But not at that price!

qbrozen

Eh, I'll just get a new 4-cyl Accord for $10k less and run circles around the Camaro

tjc78

Lol... but certainly wouldn’t look as cool.

stickguy

this coming from the guy who's minivan will run circles around his 67 Coronet.

omarman

Not sure what commercial this is from.

Mr_Shiftright

omarman said:

Little less than 7 hours to go on this 1974 Camaro Z-28 TYPE LT. Just over $21k bid and reserve not met. I wanted this when I was 15. Still do. Seller wants $35,500. Wow.

Looks like a nice piece, but you know...it's a '74 Camaro, not a '71 Camaro. He might get closer to that number at Barrett Jackson. eBay seems like the wrong place.

sda

fintail said:

Had the old dear out in the warmth yesterday, no issues as usual:



This time, I had two random people come up and talk about the car, one who has an old MB 170 I have seen locally, the other a young Korean (I think) guy who had never seen one as old out on the road, and was fascinated by it, wanted a pic of the engine (of course I obliged).

Next time I drive it will be to the garage that maintains it, for its yearly service and checkup.

How often, what kind of wax do you use to maintain the shine? Some cars age well and are classic, your fintail definitely qualifies!

stickguy

I also had a soft spot for the reboot Z28. It went away for a few years (I think after 74) and came back in IIRC 1977. I remember the ads for it. 350, and freer exhaust (I think they took the rear resonator off). Usual stripes and stuff, and upgraded suspension. Probably slower than dirt by today's standards, but still cool to a HS kid at the time!

Edit: Gotta love the internet. a quick google, and turns out I even remembered the years correctly. Good luck finding a truly rust free example though. In the NE, a 77 probably had rust through by the end of that decade!

https://www.hemmings.com/magazine/mus/2010/05/1977-Chevrolet-Camaro-Z28/3186321.html

qbrozen

stickguy said:

this coming from the guy who's minivan will run circles around his 67 Coronet.

Only because the Coronet is in pieces right now! ;b

omarman

Only because the Coronet is in pieces right now!

okay now that is a project car

omarman

Mr_Shiftright said:

omarman said:

Little less than 7 hours to go on this 1974 Camaro Z-28 TYPE LT. Just over $21k bid and reserve not met. I wanted this when I was 15. Still do. Seller wants $35,500. Wow.

Looks like a nice piece, but you know...it's a '74 Camaro, not a '71 Camaro. He might get closer to that number at Barrett Jackson. eBay seems like the wrong place.

Looks like it did not make reserve. High bid was $24,100.00.
Maybe it's not really for sale or maybe seller set the reserve so high just to see what offers would come?

fintail

I give the car a normal waxing yearly, with a liquid Meguiars hybrid natural/synthetic wax. Along with that, every time I drive the car, I give it a quick wipe with a spray detailer or gentle spray wax - 5 minute detail. The paint on the car is sound, but has some patina - the camera can hide some flaws, and I think the color wears it well. The shine on the car is a lot more subdued than on a new car, or even when the old paint was new.

And thanks, fintails were disregarded and discarded for a long time, but I think more are being saved now. They are a lot of style for the money, and a maintained one is fairly reliable.

sda said:

How often, what kind of wax do you use to maintain the shine? Some cars age well and are classic, your fintail definitely qualifies!

stickguy

so, what is being done to the Coronet? Last I recall it was running hot, and you put a new rad in it. Is this a case of once you started digging in, just kept going until you hit bottom?

at least when it is all done and back together, and fully sorted, should be an easier sell!

Mr_Shiftright

omarman said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

omarman said:

Little less than 7 hours to go on this 1974 Camaro Z-28 TYPE LT. Just over $21k bid and reserve not met. I wanted this when I was 15. Still do. Seller wants $35,500. Wow.

Looks like a nice piece, but you know...it's a '74 Camaro, not a '71 Camaro. He might get closer to that number at Barrett Jackson. eBay seems like the wrong place.

Looks like it did not make reserve. High bid was $24,100.00.
Maybe it's not really for sale or maybe seller set the reserve so high just to see what offers would come?

Possibly--it's a way to get a free appraisal--set the reserve really high, and then when the auction fails, contact the last few high bidders and try to strike a deal off-line. He should have taken $24K or tried to bump the bidder up just a little.

qbrozen

stickguy said:

so, what is being done to the Coronet? Last I recall it was running hot, and you put a new rad in it. Is this a case of once you started digging in, just kept going until you hit bottom?

at least when it is all done and back together, and fully sorted, should be an easier sell!

I still have a pile of parts to put in, such as cams, headers, timing chain set, power brake booster, etc. So I'm pulling it all apart. Just taking forever since, between all other responsibilities and chores and the sweltering weather, my time for the car is very very limited.

Mr_Shiftright

My advice is don't do the work unless you are enjoying it at the time you are doing it.

qbrozen

oh, i really do enjoy it. just can't get to it. I got to spend like 30 mins one day and another 30 mins a week later. I may get some time later this week. Today was new bed delivery day (in addition to the daily tasks watching the kids, watching the new pup, and putting in freelance hours as needed).

qbrozen

BTW, don't tell doc, but the Rover threw a CEL 2 weeks ago and I "took my chances and threw a part at the problem". I read the code and it came up with the ole Gross Fuel Evap Leak. Tightened the gas cap, cleared the code, and it came back on a couple of days later. Ordered a new gas cap online, installed, cleared the code, and all has been good since.

Mr_Shiftright

Well take your time. You don't want to have to do an engine twice. My motto is "Have the tool and have the time".

gsemike

A few from Long Island Craigs

https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/2009-jaguar-xf/6619705634.html Look like a million bucks for less than 10 grand

https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/1991-mercedes-benz-500sl-2dr/6638932875.html Pt 2 of that

https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/1998-volvo-s70/6624338052.html S70 'slicktop' Not sure what that means

https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/1997-bmw-540i-automatic-121k/6638234819.html 77 540. Looks cleaner than most

https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/super-sport-2007-chevy-impala/6644964403.html Yep, they hung a V8 sideways in front of the front axles

https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/classic-72-lincoln/6620991456.html Look up land yatch in the dictionary...

stickguy

Slick top means no moonroof. So IMO a bad idea!

qbrozen

Car is glued to his driveway at that price. I sold my running driving base s70 with less than 100k miles for $1200

stickguy

I actually really like the 500 SL. Seems clean, and love the color.

fintail

Slick top = no sunroof, I think.

R129 looks nicer than many, I don't know about his claim that they are appreciating.

xwesx

gsemike said:

https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/classic-72-lincoln/6620991456.html Look up land yatch in the dictionary...

Love that thing! I don't know why, but it just draws my eyes.

texases

I prefer 'slicktops' (hadn't heard that before) because I need lots of headroom. But in most luxury cars, it only used to come on the least-optioned versions. Now they ALL have sunroofs...grrrrr....

ab348

stickguy said:

I actually really like the 500 SL. Seems clean, and love the color.

Yeah, out of that group the Benz was the one that caught my eye as well. But it seems like a huge gamble even for a sunny-day car.

The SS has a reputation for eating transmissions for lunch. 61K miles on one might be a record.

Back in 2010 there was a dealer in Ottawa, ON who had a new 2009 Buick Lacrosse Super (same setup as the SS but nicer inside) as a leftover. I seem to recall it was something like $45K Cdn sticker, they said the usual "let's talk" when I contacted them. Wonder what it eventually sold for.

Mr_Shiftright

fintail said:

Slick top = no sunroof, I think.

R129 looks nicer than many, I don't know about his claim that they are appreciating.

Sports Car Market says depreciating @ 2% per year, which isn't anything really--maybe 2X inflation.

qbrozen

540 is relatively cheap if it checks out

fintail

A nice Sunday boulevard cruiser for half the price of a 560SL, budget for maintenance.

I'd like a SL73 AMG (just like this with the pano option and two piece wheels) , these still have some value:

Mr_Shiftright said:

Sports Car Market says depreciating @ 2% per year, which isn't anything really--maybe 2X inflation.

tjc78

Slick top also can refer to lack of a vinyl top on 70s and 80s land yachts.  

imidazol97

fintail said:

I give the car a normal waxing yearly, with a liquid Meguiars hybrid natural/synthetic wax. Along with that, every time I drive the car, I give it a quick wipe with a spray detailer or gentle spray wax - 5 minute detail. The paint on the car is sound, but has some patina - the camera can hide some flaws, and I think the color wears it well. The shine on the car is a lot more subdued than on a new car, or even when the old paint was new.

And thanks, fintails were disregarded and discarded for a long time, but I think more are being saved now. They are a lot of style for the money, and a maintained one is fairly reliable.

sda said:

How often, what kind of wax do you use to maintain the shine? Some cars age well and are classic, your fintail definitely qualifies!

The finish on Fintail's Fintail is better than that on a dark red-brown Fintail I saw at a Main Strasse car show near Kyfdx in Northern Kentucky a couple years back. I'll look for a picture in my files.

fintail

That color might be "tobacco brown", or an older name "Havana brown" - a color notorious on mid 60s-late 70s models. But maybe not, it is a somewhat dark brown:

imidazol97 said:

The finish on Fintail's Fintail is better than that on a dark red-brown Fintail I saw at a Main Strasse car show near Kyfdx in Northern Kentucky a couple years back. I'll look for a picture in my files.

Mr_Shiftright

We had another name for that color but propriety forbids me to mention it.

omarman

Mr_Shiftright said:

We had another name for that color but propriety forbids me to mention it.

Hudson?

Mr_Shiftright

LOOK RICH FOR CHEAP:

It bears a glorious model name, but it's not the same thing

One Owner, but miled up

And probably only .50 cents a pound!

Free would be better, but this isn't bad

Hey, it runs

fintail

I love the cars in the background of the XJS - speaks volumes.

The SLs don't seem like terrible deals. The 107 is really an early car with that steering wheel, pretty cool. The 450SEL would cost a fortune to repaint properly.

Mr_Shiftright

Yeah, I thought the early 107 might pan out for someone. The XJS is just....well....hopeless.

fintail

I suspect there's more than one XJS owner who also has a Silver Shadow in the driveway.

Mr_Shiftright

Right now I'm doing a big appraisal job---80 cars---and there are 4 XJS in the inventory. 3 of the 4 don't run at all, the 4th needs a jump to start but isn't currently registered.

texases

So it's an XJS hobby set? One for driving, 3 for parts?

omarman

At least the 3 XJS don't leak as much gas as the 1 which runs.

Mr_Shiftright

I do actually think that if you own one XJS that through some mystical force in the universe you attract all the other broken-down ones within a 50 mile radius of the back yard where you are running a rather deluxe chain of rodent motels.

XJSs, like many older Mercedes, seem to follow a pattern. These cars are experienced by observers as either on the way up or on the way down. They appear to be incapable of existing in a state of balance, but more like what happens to a bicycle if you stop pedaling.

ab348

Mr_Shiftright said:

XJSs, like many older Mercedes, seem to follow a pattern. These cars are experienced by observers as either on the way up or on the way down. They appear to be incapable of existing in a state of balance, but more like what happens to a bicycle if you stop pedaling.

Amazing analogy!

qbrozen

A kit, yes, but pretty cool.

I just died a little inside (re: transmission)

Mr_Shiftright

Doesn't much look like a real P1 though.

Many, many Alfa 164s came with automatics---they are about a 30K miles transmission.

xwesx

Mr_Shiftright said:

Doesn't much look like a real P1 though.

Many, many Alfa 164s came with automatics---they are about a 30K miles transmission.

Man, that's sad. So, it really isn't good for much other than as a museum piece!