Project Cars--You Get to Vote on "Hold 'em or Fold 'em"

tjc78

@kyfdx said:
I guess I'm too old to be a Mark V fan.. Only III and IV for me..

I love the III, the IV is my least favorite of the three.

fintail

I like the V and over time the VI, but the latter has kind of a malaise kitsch component that helps.

stickguy

I can't even conceive of getting one of those. and it's not like I am not the age that is supposed to be wanting one!

I'd rather have a Mustang II

fintail

I'd never get one either, too big for me. I'd rather have a pristine 77-78 hard loaded Versailles or a 1980-81 Seville Elegante if those were my period domestic lux choices.

qbrozen

@tjc78 said:

@qbrozen said:

@tjc78 said:
I’d love to have this beast. 0 to 60 in 2 days but who cares.

https://www.facebook.com/share/19eS9esMeN/?mibextid=wwXIfr

I dig it, but $15k is nuts.

I thought it was pretty fair for the condition and if it checks out. The 23k miles could be accurate. Steering wheel (woodgrain at the edges) is usually beat on these with high miles. This one looks good.

It’s not the condition I scoff at but the desirability. You can still get a halfway decent and far more desirable muscle car for $15k. I can’t fathom how even the best mk could be so much.

tjc78

@qbrozen said:

@tjc78 said:

@qbrozen said:

@tjc78 said:
I’d love to have this beast. 0 to 60 in 2 days but who cares.

https://www.facebook.com/share/19eS9esMeN/?mibextid=wwXIfr

I dig it, but $15k is nuts.

I thought it was pretty fair for the condition and if it checks out. The 23k miles could be accurate. Steering wheel (woodgrain at the edges) is usually beat on these with high miles. This one looks good.

It’s not the condition I scoff at but the desirability. You can still get a halfway decent and far more desirable muscle car for $15k. I can’t fathom how even the best mk could be so much.

Collector’s Series and Diamond Jubilee editions can get well in the 30s for very low mileage examples. I get your point, but there is a fair amount of love for these old yachts.

When I feel it’s the right time, one of these or something similar will find its way to my garage. I’ve always loved the big cushy cars and nothing new today will ever come close.

tjc78

@fintail said:
I like the V and over time the VI, but the latter has kind of a malaise kitsch component that helps.

A two door VI in the right trim and colors I can get behind… but the four door ones no. Just get a Town Car at that point.

My Grandfather had an 81 Givenchy

ab348

oldfarmer50 said:

kyfdx said:

I guess I'm too old to be a Mark V fan.. Only III and IV for me..

Me too and I lean toward the Mark III. A 1970 with a big block would be nice.

Since the '69-'71 models only came with a 460 that is nicely covered off. The IV was nice enough but the III had a much higher-quality interior and to my eye looks better on the exterior.

fintail

tjc78 said:

@fintail said:

I like the V and over time the VI, but the latter has kind of a malaise kitsch component that helps.

A two door VI in the right trim and colors I can get behind… but the four door ones no. Just get a Town Car at that point.

My Grandfather had an 81 Givenchy

Now that's malaise, on nice wheels. 302 putting out a cool 115 hp and a stalk mounted horn? I can deal with the sedans and the Town Coupe too, as funny period pieces.

tjc78

@fintail said:

Yep! With an 8-track and a premium sound knob too! His didn’t have digital dash though. I believe that was actually a delete option on the Givenchy trim.

fintail

tjc78 said:

@fintail said:

Yep! With an 8-track and a premium sound knob too! His didn’t have digital dash though. I believe that was actually a delete option on the Givenchy trim.

Nice, a cassette type that was effectively obsolete when the car was new. CB as well?

Digital dash is something I would like if I had a period car that offered it. MB never had more than a trip computer during the era, I think the Germans weren't so into it, other than I know the Audi UR-Quattro had the option.

tjc78

No CB

Yeah if digital was available it’s a must have. Unfortunately it was one of the only options my 89 Town Car didn’t have.

The 04 Marquis had it and it looked just like the 80s.

explorerx4

The V for sale on BAT is up to 14K with just under 24 hours left.

tjc78

explorerx4 said:

The V for sale on BAT is up to 14K with just under 24 hours left.

I think the one on FB Marketplace is nicer. I'm inclined to believe the miles on that one. The one on BAT has some steering wheel wear, was repainted and the sunroof trim and glass is a mess. I think that one has flipped. Center console armrest and the driver's switches look worn too.. not indicative of 36K miles.

IMO that one was repainted, highly detailed and someone spent a few bucks on repro double stripe whitewalls. I can never remember which is which... Caddy and Lincoln had the same tires but the pinstripe whitewall was on the outer edge on one and the inner on the other. Have to assume they put the correct ones on the V

tjc78

Edit - I looked it up. The Lincoln version on the Mark V on BAT is correct. The Caddy version has the thinner WW near the wheel.

tjc78

A video on the Mark VI just popped up on my social media and it made me realize.... Pop's Mark VI was not an 81 as I said. It's a 1980. The 81 Givenchy was charcoal grey. HMM.. I always thought it was an 81.

explorerx4

The V on BAT is @15K with 45 minutes left.
Edit.
Sold for $22,200.

tjc78

I was just checking. BAT tax for sure... would have been better buying the cleaner one w/o moonroof I posted.

explorerx4

I thought that V was prettied up with a lot of lipstick.

explorerx4

Can't imagine what is being asked for this Mark V.
They are popping up on my YT feed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueMJGpPPe0

benjaminh

A 2011 BMM 535i for $10k. Original msrp c. $55k. What could go wrong? 100k miles. Seems to be in good condition in and out. No accidents on the carfax, but also not much maintenance history. Surely they at least got oil changes? But apparently not at a place that reports to carfax?

https://www.acuraatoxmoor.com/auto/used-2011-bmw-5-series-535i-xdrive-near-louisville-ky/108404656/

tjc78

explorerx4 said:

Can't imagine what is being asked for this Mark V.
They are popping up on my YT feed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueMJGpPPe0

Nice example. I am not a fan of those cast wheels, these cars look best with turbines (at least to me)

fintail

I think those cast wheels are the same that were on a Versailles owned by a young relative around 1988. I know I have mentioned that car before, it was hard loaded, and at age 12 I thought it was seriously nice, I am certain that car is why those are a guilty pleasure for me now, specifically the 77-78s. The car I remember had rich interior materials and seemed special - it had leather, moonroof, stereo, etc.

tjc78

Yep most of the Versailles had those wheels or wire wheel hubcaps

xwesx

benjaminh said:

A 2011 BMM 535i for $10k. Original msrp c. $55k. What could go wrong? 100k miles. Seems to be in good condition in and out. No accidents on the carfax, but also not much maintenance history. Surely they at least got oil changes? But apparently not at a place that reports to carfax?

https://www.acuraatoxmoor.com/auto/used-2011-bmw-5-series-535i-xdrive-near-louisville-ky/108404656/

I could go for something like that if it weren't white. Seems like a decent way to enjoy one of the last decent-looking BMWs without suffering too much risk to the wallet.

oldfarmer50

None of my indie shops ever reported to CarFax but I keep all oil change receipts.

qbrozen

@benjaminh said:
A 2011 BMM 535i for $10k. Original msrp c. $55k. What could go wrong? 100k miles. Seems to be in good condition in and out. No accidents on the carfax, but also not much maintenance history. Surely they at least got oil changes? But apparently not at a place that reports to carfax?

https://www.acuraatoxmoor.com/auto/used-2011-bmw-5-series-535i-xdrive-near-louisville-ky/108404656/

I trust my Quattroporte more.

explorerx4

The Covorado, someone's vision. I kind of like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmy1sHFOvIE

explorerx4

This does float my boat if I was ever going to buy a vintage sedan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKVSOIxsddE

stickguy

a car that came out when my son could already drive is vintage?

You trying to make me feel older than I already do?

fintail

Heck calling that vintage makes me feel old!

I know there's an "04 rich" movement with young people buying and at least sometimes enjoying fully depreciated early 00s luxury cars.

andres3

My 11 year old daughter successfully makes me feel not just old, but ancient. One hot tip; watch a Generation Z and Millennial lingo video, so you can work on your Rizz low-key, and then you can talk to the youth successfully.

xwesx

Or, better yet, refuse to speak their lingo so that they still have some knowledge of what proper (or, at least, more proper) speech sounds like. That way, you can surprise them when you do dabble in their nonsense, and they will have a leg up in interfacing in the real world, too!