I'd like to see that franken-Caddy go against an Escalade.
I was thinking that re: the rough Landcruiser...just spend the money to get a good one, and save the headache. That way you will know it is right, too. That one you post is pretty nice looking.
Actually, the FJs have been collectible for quite a while in certain circles.
That ebay one scares me. I just get the feeling there are hidden problems. Most likely the mention of rust bubbles forming. Maybe the fact that diamondplate is often used to cover up rust. Maybe the fact that there isn't one pic of the engine. Maybe its that rusted firewall I can see in one of the pics. Or maybe all of the above.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
The FJ 40s are worth more than many '71 "collectible cars". Definitely collectible and worth fixing up (within reason). Probably worth about as much as a '71 Porsche 911, strange to say.
I got a call into the wholesaler who works for us so he should get back to me later on today hopefuly.
If you want to email me the VIN I can look it up on Land Rover Intranet and see when/where is retailed along with the last time it was taken to a rover franchise for service.
that Fury doesn't sound like a bad deal. What is a "tab" though?
As for that '59 Ford, the paint looks kinda like it's a light peach/salmon color to me. Still pretty clashy with that brown interior, but I guess they did weird stuff like that back then? What's that old song about the dude wearing tan shoes with pink shoelaces and a polka dot vest? And a panama hat with a purple headband? What was the dude, a colorblind pimp wanna-be Meterosexual?! :P
I don't think that 924 is quite a classic. Even with the turbo, it isn't any faster than a 944. They cost a ton to maintain, even in comparison with other Porsches. It would have to be free for me to take it, and I would junk it the first time anything broke.
That Maxima is RIDICULOUSLY priced. Its a 14-year-old used car. Nothing special. I'm thinking $2500-$3k should kill it. And its only that high because of the unusually low miles.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
"Tabs" = license tags...the seller must use a different term. I doubt they'd be hard to get here, as WA has no inspections or anything unless a car is brought in from out of state, I think. Because of that, we have some less than awesome looking cars on the road. I too thought it looked to be a good deal...what can you get for $600.
I was mocking the Porsche seller with his "classic" line...even as a turbo I am sure that is crap.
but I noticed that gauge font, too! Looks kind of old-fashioned and frumpy, and totally out of character with the sporty pretenses of the Maxima. It kinda makes me think of that font they started using in Chryslers in the late 90's/early 00's, to make them look more upscale I guess.
There is something either amiss with that Volvo or the owner really wants it gone. The fact that the license # is blacked out in the photo makes me wonder, though.
Funny how this "Project Cars" thread tends to read "stay away from projects 99% of the time and just go with something that is not a project." :P
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Weird. It almost looks to me like what the result might have been had there been a big retro movement in the late 50's. Like someone took a '58 Buick or something and tried to make it look like a '42 DeSoto.
I wonder what engine/drivetrain this sucker has? I'm guessing it's a Ford 302 hooked up to a 4-speed automatic?
with some real history and a real description, it may be. But, heck, I read the whole thing and still know NOTHING about the car.
"a Lincoln engine and automatic transmission" gee. That narrows it down, huh?
"standard instrumentation" standard for an aircraft? a boat? a speak n' spell? what the hell is standard???
only 500 miles? Who the heck spends 8 years building a car and then only drives it around 20 miles per year after that? That wouldn't even get me to work once a year.
I've seen better descriptions for a $2k Escort than for this one-of-a-kind $80k car.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I'm guessing that this thing has no trunk to speak of? At least, it doesn't appear to have a decklid. Also, the part about where the passenger-side door drops down like a ramp, while interesting, doesn't seem too practical. First off, wouldn't that scuff up the paint or dent it? Not to mention that the door panel material then becomes your ramp, and is subject to foot traffic. Can't be too good for the vinyl/leather/whatever. Also, you'd better make sure you're not parked too close to the car beside you, because with a door like that, there's no such thing as opening it just a little bit!
I also don't like the fact that the car has no top. That gives me a bad flashback to a 1975 Olds Cutlass sedan I saw at Carlisle years ago. I remember seeing this thing from a distance, with no roof, and thinking cool, they made a convertible out of it! Wrong! What they did was chop off the roof and the B- and C-pillars, and then put some kind of trim pieces over the holes. They also had to put a brace in the back seat, connecting the lower part of the B-pillars to brace them up for the rear doors. And since that brace had to accommodate the travel of the front seat, it really killed back seat legroom. And since the rear door windows didn't roll down all the way, they just took out the glass.
It was actually a sharp looking car from the outside, but totally useless unless you just wanted something to drive around in nice weather, put in a parade, etc. But there are better-suited cars than a chopped 70's sedan. This car just struck me as "incomplete". And that's how this top-less custom gray '42 DeSoto wanna-be thing strikes me. "not a complete car"
This same guy had previously tried to sell me a 944S (which turned out to be a plain 944) and a 911SC. He told me he was a Porsche collector who was downsizing.
I would be all over the Miata idea, but my friend has not yet had his taste of an old British car. Frankly I got a little tired of pushing mine. I am pushing him for a chrome bumpered car. A later model would have to come pretty cheap.
Anyone like Coronets? I could better places to put $8000.
Clean Dodge Raider. SUVs were actually utilitarian once upon a time.
the '65 Coronet, but not enough to plunk down $8K on a rustbucket. My favorite years for these would probably be '68-69. The 70 was similar, but had a Pontiac-looking double-loop grille that I didn't care for.
MGB 1980 -- I'm not sure why anyone would even want such a car, but if you MUST have the worst MG ever made, I'd say around $4,000 would be more than enough to bid on the blind. If it isn't trashed or screwed up and is clean enough, you should be able to dump it for that once you realize what a horrible mistake you have made.
VERDICT: Only if cheap but ask yourself why before you bid.
65 Dodge Coronet -- giddely overpriced by more than double. Rust of this dimension is an ENORMOUS and expensive hassle, and when you're done, you've got---a '65 Coronet....yippie/zowie.....
You could find a rusted Chevy SS Impala convertible for this money and at least when you're done, you have something.
My '77 MGB had been put back to pre-rubber bumper height by the prior owner, a friend of mine. He also did some minor upgrades to the suspension it was rebuilt. All told, all the suspension work cost around $2,300.
There was also some minor engine upgrade work done to it by the owner prior to my friend (including the notorious Webber carb). All the emissions stuff got lost in the process. I don't know how much this cost.
For the price of the upgrades and the car itself, there was likely more money in it than a decent chrome bumpered car would have cost.
I bought the car in 1992 for $2,000 (good friend deal, the car was worth probably another $1000 or more). I drove it for almost two years. In that time, the paint started spider webbing, the top developed 2" stress tears on either side, and I dislocated the front bumper trying to tow it with a my Dad's full-size Chevy truck. (why did those fine engineers attatch the tow hook to the bumper on the extreme right of the car?)
I sold it to the dean of the business school for $1,000 cash and his pristine '84 Jetta diesel that I sold for $1,700 a month later. After he had it for a year, he accused me of ripping him off and selling him a piece of junk (but he wasn't mad). He unloaded it in further decrepit condition to a graduate student for some unknown amount.
Actually if set up properly, a Maserati twin turbo is pretty darn quick...I doubt he'd gain much with his MaserVette 0-60 because he'd never be able to keep the power down on the ground.
I especially like the air cleaner through the hood. Nice, really swell...you get to ruin two cars...
The old "Corvette engine" claim is another one to watch out for...I can't tell you how many "Corvette engines" are in fact just plain ol' 327s.
Check your casting and ID #s before buying THAT story.
The Raider looks really good and it would be fun to go as an UN peace keeper on Halloween, but $3300 with 221,000 miles on it??? Whoa. With no mention of a rebuild, how long can you count on the Mitsubishi engine?
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heck no. no more than a viper is. just the top sportscar for their respective badges.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
http://detroit.craigslist.org/car/170976312.html
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FJ40-Incredible-Condition-Extremely-Unique-Upgrad- es_W0QQitemZ4648094495QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6443QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I was thinking that re: the rough Landcruiser...just spend the money to get a good one, and save the headache. That way you will know it is right, too. That one you post is pretty nice looking.
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That ebay one scares me. I just get the feeling there are hidden problems. Most likely the mention of rust bubbles forming. Maybe the fact that diamondplate is often used to cover up rust. Maybe the fact that there isn't one pic of the engine. Maybe its that rusted firewall I can see in one of the pics. Or maybe all of the above.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
If you want to email me the VIN I can look it up on Land Rover Intranet and see when/where is retailed along with the last time it was taken to a rover franchise for service.
Eeeww!!!
"Classic Sports Car"
Surely a 4 wheeled money pit
You can pretend you're a cop in Dukes of Hazzard
As for that '59 Ford, the paint looks kinda like it's a light peach/salmon color to me. Still pretty clashy with that brown interior, but I guess they did weird stuff like that back then? What's that old song about the dude wearing tan shoes with pink shoelaces and a polka dot vest? And a panama hat with a purple headband? What was the dude, a colorblind pimp wanna-be Meterosexual?! :P
2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited Velvet Red over Wicker Beige
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I was mocking the Porsche seller with his "classic" line...even as a turbo I am sure that is crap.
I don't like the gauge font on that Maxima.
This cannot be good.
Super cheal Volvo wagon how could go wrong.
Funny how this "Project Cars" thread tends to read "stay away from projects 99% of the time and just go with something that is not a project." :P
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I wonder what engine/drivetrain this sucker has? I'm guessing it's a Ford 302 hooked up to a 4-speed automatic?
with some real history and a real description, it may be. But, heck, I read the whole thing and still know NOTHING about the car.
"a Lincoln engine and automatic transmission"
gee. That narrows it down, huh?
"standard instrumentation"
standard for an aircraft? a boat? a speak n' spell? what the hell is standard???
only 500 miles? Who the heck spends 8 years building a car and then only drives it around 20 miles per year after that? That wouldn't even get me to work once a year.
I've seen better descriptions for a $2k Escort than for this one-of-a-kind $80k car.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I also don't like the fact that the car has no top. That gives me a bad flashback to a 1975 Olds Cutlass sedan I saw at Carlisle years ago. I remember seeing this thing from a distance, with no roof, and thinking cool, they made a convertible out of it! Wrong! What they did was chop off the roof and the B- and C-pillars, and then put some kind of trim pieces over the holes. They also had to put a brace in the back seat, connecting the lower part of the B-pillars to brace them up for the rear doors. And since that brace had to accommodate the travel of the front seat, it really killed back seat legroom. And since the rear door windows didn't roll down all the way, they just took out the glass.
It was actually a sharp looking car from the outside, but totally useless unless you just wanted something to drive around in nice weather, put in a parade, etc. But there are better-suited cars than a chopped 70's sedan. This car just struck me as "incomplete". And that's how this top-less custom gray '42 DeSoto wanna-be thing strikes me. "not a complete car"
Now the car is on Autotrader near me, and the price has gone up $1,500 while the mileage has gone down 100,000.
This same guy had previously tried to sell me a 944S (which turned out to be a plain 944) and a 911SC. He told me he was a Porsche collector who was downsizing.
Oh no. Gloria Estefan's MG kit car. Can celebrity ownership make a car worth less it would be other wise?
That, and it is a mediocre car to start with.
WOnder how hard it is to undo some of the "updates" and make it usable (engine mods, fix the suspension)?
Probably better to just buy an older one and be done with it. or an old Miata for the same money.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Anyone like Coronets? I could better places to put $8000.
Clean Dodge Raider. SUVs were actually utilitarian once upon a time.
VERDICT: Only if cheap but ask yourself why before you bid.
65 Dodge Coronet -- giddely overpriced by more than double. Rust of this dimension is an ENORMOUS and expensive hassle, and when you're done, you've got---a '65 Coronet....yippie/zowie.....
You could find a rusted Chevy SS Impala convertible for this money and at least when you're done, you have something.
VERDICT: No way
There was also some minor engine upgrade work done to it by the owner prior to my friend (including the notorious Webber carb). All the emissions stuff got lost in the process. I don't know how much this cost.
For the price of the upgrades and the car itself, there was likely more money in it than a decent chrome bumpered car would have cost.
I bought the car in 1992 for $2,000 (good friend deal, the car was worth probably another $1000 or more). I drove it for almost two years. In that time, the paint started spider webbing, the top developed 2" stress tears on either side, and I dislocated the front bumper trying to tow it with a my Dad's full-size Chevy truck. (why did those fine engineers attatch the tow hook to the bumper on the extreme right of the car?)
I sold it to the dean of the business school for $1,000 cash and his pristine '84 Jetta diesel that I sold for $1,700 a month later. After he had it for a year, he accused me of ripping him off and selling him a piece of junk (but he wasn't mad). He unloaded it in further decrepit condition to a graduate student for some unknown amount.
Shifty thinks he doesn't like Maserati Biturbos. He hasn't seen this tasteful restomod.
I especially like the air cleaner through the hood. Nice, really swell...you get to ruin two cars...
The old "Corvette engine" claim is another one to watch out for...I can't tell you how many "Corvette engines" are in fact just plain ol' 327s.
Check your casting and ID #s before buying THAT story.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4649710602&- sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT
The public has spoken.
Lifted LWB
Never saw a car with so many "just a fuse" problems that weren't fixed by the seller by "just putting in a fuse".