heck, i think the dash is the least of its worries.
They pulled parts from old junkers to put it together! A '76 caddy engine? Rear drum brakes? good grief. Even high-end resto rods with brand new custom crate engines and all new modern suspension, brakes, electronics, etc, don't go for $100k. Many don't even go for $50k.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
The new euro spec range rovers are getting a 272 hp twin turbo v8 with 480 or so lb ft of torque. I doubt it would take much to bump it up to 300 hp and 550 lb ft of torque. Just a little tweak to the turbo software is all I hope.
I just pray that LRNA does the right thing and puts this motor in all three rovers currently coming to the US. Bump the output on the Range Rover version 10% over the LR3 and Range Rover sport but otherwise keep it unchanged.
On the european mileage test this turbo motor averages around 25 mpg city/highway combined. Imagine that a nearly 3 ton SUV that gets better then 25 mpg on the highway with no electrical assistance.
The 1941 Cadillac is perhaps one of Cadillac's greatest design and one of the best car designs of all time. I don't know about $100K, but $50K would be about right for an excellent original or precise, well-executed restoration on a 1941 Cadillac convertible. The convertible sedan would be even more desirable.
That idiot should be FINED $100K for ruining such a classic car! Oh gee, let me buy a Bugatti Royale and put in some '70s GM HVAC controls and a tacky aftermarket radio and a super-stupid steering wheel! First of all, the instrument panel should be woodgrained not body color.
my buddy who has the Mark V fetish just sent me this eBay link. I guess with only 17 miles on it, it's probably one of the nicest in the world. But jeez? What do you do with a car like that?! You almost couldn't even sit in it, let alone drive it, for fear of breaking something.
Did they put 17 miles on it driving around in a parking deck or a big warehouse as it has never been driven on a street?
Why won't the seller reveal the VIN? Isn't that a key piece of information for someone interested in such a car?
I can't imagine it is good for anything other than a museum, but I also can't imagine many people would want to look at it if it was in a museum.
I wonder how much money the owner would have now if he had invested the price of the car in the stock market in 1978. Not to mention insurance and storage costs paid in the last 28 years.
well, the trick will be meeting the new emissions standards. Lots of extra equipment is needed on the diesels. I hope the majority of manufacturers bring them out sooner than later.
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I have kind of a soft spot for these cars, but I'd have a hard time parting with $18K for one. I don't care if I have the nicest one in the world or not....heck I'd buy my buddy's "beater" Mark V for $3-4K and just have fun with it before I'd pay $18K for something that I'd be afraid to touch.
There were a couple of Mark V's for sale at the Ford Nationals, and a couple didn't seem too badly priced. The only thing is, for me to get a car like this, it would have to be very specific. I'd want the 460, a sunroof, and an attractive color. I could live without the sunroof I guess, but I'd think a 400 would REALLY be a dog in a car like this. And as for color, on something like this I think it's really make-it or break-it.
On some cars I wouldn't be nearly so picky about color. For instance, it would take a really grotesque color to make me thumb my nose at, say, a '76-77 LeMans, '61-62 Caddy, '79-81 Mopar R-body, '57-59 DeSoto, '72 Impala, etc. Guess I'm just weird like that!
Nice color combo, 402 big block, probably not too smoggy. According to a '72 standard-sized Chevy brochure I found online, the 402 had 210 hp standard, or 240 with dual exhaust, which this one appears to have.
I always wondered...how come they'd always call the 402 something else? Earlier versions were still called "396", while the '72 brochure lists the 402 as the "Turbo-Jet 400". The smallblock 400 was "Turbo-Fire 400".
What would be a "fair" price on something like this?
I kinda like it, actually. I like the contrast of seeing a plush, comfy car with big copcar wheels and dog-dish hubcaps.
Funny though, how he tries to "build value" into the faded silver paint. :P
These things came stock with a 2.56:1 rear end, and used the Chevy 305-4bbl with 165 hp. Would changing the rear to a 3.42:1 really do much for this car? On one hand, it would let it rev up a bit quicker, but then on the other, wouldn't the tranny simply up-shift that much sooner?
changing out the rear would help quite a bit with acceleration, but he DESTROYED the gas mileage. Now it probably gets in the teens on the highway. ouch!
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
The '65 Lincoln Conti has been botched up with custom touches, so maybe $25,000?? I'm not sure what "blue crocodile upholstery" is and I'm not sure I want to know.
that '75 Dart looks horrible with the rear-end dropped like that! I used to have the back end of my '68 Dart jacked up with air shocks, and also have oversized 225/70/R14 tires on the back, with 205/07/R14's on the front. Darts look good jacked up, but lowered like that, it just makes it look like the leaf springs are shot!
If that Chevy truck is solid, I think that's a great price for a fantastic starting point on a hot rod truck. Drop in a crate motor and trans, send it off to the paint shop, do up the interior real nice, and you have yourself a real sweet ride.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
The 63 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint 1600 is beautiful. I don't have a sense of what it should cost and it would be way beyond me to get that thing together again, but man, those 50s-60s Italian cars were just beautiful. Just for kicks, here is something that is already over its worth and I'm not gonna touch it: Audi Quattro
Something's funky with the grille on that '65 Cadillac. The center in intact, but it looks like the left and right portions have sheet metal substituted. Maybe the photography's bad?
The Alfa Sprint's value disassembled would be determined by the condition of the engine and transmission, which isn't mentioned. If it's also been rebuilt/restored like the rest of the car, then it's a good price. It should be worth $25,000 when done.
....that Skylark convertible looks like a rat, even at $5500. I've never been fond of the lines on the '68-69 models so maybe I'm biased. Note the particularly bad bodywork on the LR fender, hate the color and quality of the paint and the '70s Keystone mags. Again, not expecting perfection for $5500, but I'd rather have a clean-slate restorable vehicle than one done badly at that price.
Speaking of Buicks, am I missing something on the price of this heap?:
I especially like the phrase "won't last!" in the ad copy. Well duh, if the tranny is broken and you're selling it as a parts car, obviously it DIDN'T last! :P
Or maybe it won't last because rust is starting to set in, or it has a water leak starting, etc...
You may have actually found a car worth LESS than nothing!!
Without a title, you can't even JUNK a car...so you'd need to have it cut up to get rid of it, or put up a bond to get another title, and THEN junk it...
to get a replacement title for a car? I guess it varies from state to state? My buddy had to get a replacement title when he traded his '98 Tracker for his '06 Xterra. He had the original title, which showed a lien on it, and also had a paper stating it was paid off, but didn't have a lien-free title. I don't think it took too much effort to get a new one, at least in this case.
I've always liked those big 10-wheeler military trucks. Didn't Diamond-T used to build one too, back in the day? I guess since they're military-spec, a variety of low-cost bidders probably built these things over the ages?
I thought you would like them. They are big and ugly.
The JP magazine I have talked about fuel mileage I will look it up when I get home.
If you had a big bit of property I think this would probably be the best vehicle for it. Tough as nails could pull trees right out of the ground and would never get stuck.
Would also be great if you had a military spec jeep to match it. Use the M38 to tow it shows and such.
I had better not send that deuce-and-a-half link to my friend, Pete. He would probably snap it up in a heartbeat were it not for being on the other side of the country! Then again, that might not stop him! He has a pair of M37s, an M38, and a 55 Willys wagon. His "new" vehicle is a '67 El Camino. *shakes his head*
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
One of my Dad's first cars (I always get it mixed up as to whether it was this or a '64 Ford Galaxie 500 2-door hardtop, which he also had) was a 1963 Impala SS with a 409 and 4-speed. IIRC, there were a couple different 409's available then, and he ended up getting the top one, which I believe was 425 hp.
But then he got drafted, and sold it!
BTW, what was that other listing? It's deleted now.
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They pulled parts from old junkers to put it together! A '76 caddy engine? Rear drum brakes? good grief. Even high-end resto rods with brand new custom crate engines and all new modern suspension, brakes, electronics, etc, don't go for $100k. Many don't even go for $50k.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Should be here within the next two years I hope.
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Sounds like there's a Johnny Cash song in the making there!
I just pray that LRNA does the right thing and puts this motor in all three rovers currently coming to the US. Bump the output on the Range Rover version 10% over the LR3 and Range Rover sport but otherwise keep it unchanged.
On the european mileage test this turbo motor averages around 25 mpg city/highway combined. Imagine that a nearly 3 ton SUV that gets better then 25 mpg on the highway with no electrical assistance.
That idiot should be FINED $100K for ruining such a classic car! Oh gee, let me buy a Bugatti Royale and put in some '70s GM HVAC controls and a tacky aftermarket radio and a super-stupid steering wheel! First of all, the instrument panel should be woodgrained not body color.
Why won't the seller reveal the VIN? Isn't that a key piece of information for someone interested in such a car?
I can't imagine it is good for anything other than a museum, but I also can't imagine many people would want to look at it if it was in a museum.
I wonder how much money the owner would have now if he had invested the price of the car in the stock market in 1978. Not to mention insurance and storage costs paid in the last 28 years.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Just another example of how there is a buyer for every car, I suppose.
It could very well BE the best example in the world ... but I, for one, would not pay anywhere NEAR that price for it!
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
There were a couple of Mark V's for sale at the Ford Nationals, and a couple didn't seem too badly priced. The only thing is, for me to get a car like this, it would have to be very specific. I'd want the 460, a sunroof, and an attractive color. I could live without the sunroof I guess, but I'd think a 400 would REALLY be a dog in a car like this. And as for color, on something like this I think it's really make-it or break-it.
On some cars I wouldn't be nearly so picky about color. For instance, it would take a really grotesque color to make me thumb my nose at, say, a '76-77 LeMans, '61-62 Caddy, '79-81 Mopar R-body, '57-59 DeSoto, '72 Impala, etc. Guess I'm just weird like that!
I can't believe he calls this "near mint". I'm thinking "fair" on its best day.
This year is much prettier. Too bad its not a 'vert.
What is a fully restored '65 worth?
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Nice color combo, 402 big block, probably not too smoggy. According to a '72 standard-sized Chevy brochure I found online, the 402 had 210 hp standard, or 240 with dual exhaust, which this one appears to have.
I always wondered...how come they'd always call the 402 something else? Earlier versions were still called "396", while the '72 brochure lists the 402 as the "Turbo-Jet 400". The smallblock 400 was "Turbo-Fire 400".
What would be a "fair" price on something like this?
I kinda like it, actually. I like the contrast of seeing a plush, comfy car with big copcar wheels and dog-dish hubcaps.
Funny though, how he tries to "build value" into the faded silver paint. :P
These things came stock with a 2.56:1 rear end, and used the Chevy 305-4bbl with 165 hp. Would changing the rear to a 3.42:1 really do much for this car? On one hand, it would let it rev up a bit quicker, but then on the other, wouldn't the tranny simply up-shift that much sooner?
I LOVE the wheels.
changing out the rear would help quite a bit with acceleration, but he DESTROYED the gas mileage. Now it probably gets in the teens on the highway. ouch!
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Could be a good driver if you can ignore the spelling
At least this Alfa is put together ... looks to be from the same seller as the car above
This might just satisfy my jones for a convertible
What the heck does "Tuxedo Park" have to do with this?
Overpriced?
Interesting vehicle to use to start a "rat rod"
Finally, someone who has a sane mind when it comes to price
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Just for kicks, here is something that is already over its worth and I'm not gonna touch it:
Audi Quattro
2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited Velvet Red over Wicker Beige
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
Speaking of Buicks, am I missing something on the price of this heap?:
http://chicago.craigslist.org/car/169284077.html
Lessee, fifteen year-old Buick, sitting in the weeds, needs a trans and the old no title. Sounds like fifteen hundred bucks to me, too. :P
Or maybe it won't last because rust is starting to set in, or it has a water leak starting, etc...
http://detroit.craigslist.org/car/169390671.html
http://detroit.craigslist.org/car/169415238.html
Without a title, you can't even JUNK a car...so you'd need to have it cut up to get rid of it, or put up a bond to get another title, and THEN junk it...
These haven't been seen so expensive since they were new
Project for british_rover
Doesn't seem to belong on craigs list but this is CT
100 bucks for a miata shell?
Another Classic range over priced by 1,500 dollars
RE: Miata Shell -- good for Spec Miata racer
JP magazine had an article on those old Duece and a halfs a couple of months ago. Kaiser made them for a few years and so those are technicaly Jeeps.
The army rated them at a 10,000 lbs for towing and about the same for hauling.
I am trying to find a link to the article because it talked about a company in Utah that refurbished and sold them.
http://www.fmtc.com/~imp/
http://www.clarktruck.com/trucks.cfm
Here are some more but still cannot find that one specific site. I will have to look up the magazine when I get home.
The JP magazine I have talked about fuel mileage I will look it up when I get home.
If you had a big bit of property I think this would probably be the best vehicle for it. Tough as nails could pull trees right out of the ground and would never get stuck.
Would also be great if you had a military spec jeep to match it. Use the M38 to tow it shows and such.
I would like a troop carrier please
Full ebay listing
Then again, that might not stop him! He has a pair of M37s, an M38, and a 55 Willys wagon. His "new" vehicle is a '67 El Camino. *shakes his head*
But then he got drafted, and sold it!
BTW, what was that other listing? It's deleted now.
The 2 and a half ton truck in the article had a published two rating of 10,000 lbs and a published load rating of 16,688 lbs.