Project Cars--You Get to Vote on "Hold 'em or Fold 'em"

qbrozen

heck, i think the dash is the least of its worries.

They pulled parts from old junkers to put it together! A '76 caddy engine? Rear drum brakes? good grief. Even high-end resto rods with brand new custom crate engines and all new modern suspension, brakes, electronics, etc, don't go for $100k. Many don't even go for $50k.

british_rover

That is where my TDV8 bi-turbo LR3 comes in with about 300 horsepower and 550 lb ft of torque. I think that will make a perfect two vehicle/trail rig.

Should be here within the next two years I hope.

qbrozen

let me know when it arrives. We might lease one for my wife.

andre1969

They pulled parts from old junkers to put it together! A '76 caddy engine? Rear drum brakes? good grief.

Sounds like there's a Johnny Cash song in the making there!

british_rover

The new euro spec range rovers are getting a 272 hp twin turbo v8 with 480 or so lb ft of torque. I doubt it would take much to bump it up to 300 hp and 550 lb ft of torque. Just a little tweak to the turbo software is all I hope.

I just pray that LRNA does the right thing and puts this motor in all three rovers currently coming to the US. Bump the output on the Range Rover version 10% over the LR3 and Range Rover sport but otherwise keep it unchanged.

On the european mileage test this turbo motor averages around 25 mpg city/highway combined. Imagine that a nearly 3 ton SUV that gets better then 25 mpg on the highway with no electrical assistance.

lemko

The 1941 Cadillac is perhaps one of Cadillac's greatest design and one of the best car designs of all time. I don't know about $100K, but $50K would be about right for an excellent original or precise, well-executed restoration on a 1941 Cadillac convertible. The convertible sedan would be even more desirable.

That idiot should be FINED $100K for ruining such a classic car! Oh gee, let me buy a Bugatti Royale and put in some '70s GM HVAC controls and a tacky aftermarket radio and a super-stupid steering wheel! First of all, the instrument panel should be woodgrained not body color.

andre1969

my buddy who has the Mark V fetish just sent me this eBay link. I guess with only 17 miles on it, it's probably one of the nicest in the world. But jeez? What do you do with a car like that?! You almost couldn't even sit in it, let alone drive it, for fear of breaking something.

lemmer

Did they put 17 miles on it driving around in a parking deck or a big warehouse as it has never been driven on a street?

Why won't the seller reveal the VIN? Isn't that a key piece of information for someone interested in such a car?

I can't imagine it is good for anything other than a museum, but I also can't imagine many people would want to look at it if it was in a museum.

I wonder how much money the owner would have now if he had invested the price of the car in the stock market in 1978. Not to mention insurance and storage costs paid in the last 28 years.

qbrozen

well, the trick will be meeting the new emissions standards. Lots of extra equipment is needed on the diesels. I hope the majority of manufacturers bring them out sooner than later.

qbrozen

I'm speechless.

Just another example of how there is a buyer for every car, I suppose.

It could very well BE the best example in the world ... but I, for one, would not pay anywhere NEAR that price for it!

andre1969

I have kind of a soft spot for these cars, but I'd have a hard time parting with $18K for one. I don't care if I have the nicest one in the world or not....heck I'd buy my buddy's "beater" Mark V for $3-4K and just have fun with it before I'd pay $18K for something that I'd be afraid to touch.

There were a couple of Mark V's for sale at the Ford Nationals, and a couple didn't seem too badly priced. The only thing is, for me to get a car like this, it would have to be very specific. I'd want the 460, a sunroof, and an attractive color. I could live without the sunroof I guess, but I'd think a 400 would REALLY be a dog in a car like this. And as for color, on something like this I think it's really make-it or break-it.

On some cars I wouldn't be nearly so picky about color. For instance, it would take a really grotesque color to make me thumb my nose at, say, a '76-77 LeMans, '61-62 Caddy, '79-81 Mopar R-body, '57-59 DeSoto, '72 Impala, etc. Guess I'm just weird like that!

qbrozen

If I was ever going to get myself an American boat, I think it would be something like these Lincolns.

I can't believe he calls this "near mint". I'm thinking "fair" on its best day.

This year is much prettier. Too bad its not a 'vert.

What is a fully restored '65 worth?

andre1969

that I wouldn't mind having... 1972 Impala hardtop.

Nice color combo, 402 big block, probably not too smoggy. According to a '72 standard-sized Chevy brochure I found online, the 402 had 210 hp standard, or 240 with dual exhaust, which this one appears to have.

I always wondered...how come they'd always call the 402 something else? Earlier versions were still called "396", while the '72 brochure lists the 402 as the "Turbo-Jet 400". The smallblock 400 was "Turbo-Fire 400".

What would be a "fair" price on something like this?

lemmer

That 'near mint' car looks like the paint would come off with a strong blast from a garden hose.

andre1969

a "Smokey and the Bandit IV", this could have been passed off as Buford T. Justice's ride.

I kinda like it, actually. I like the contrast of seeing a plush, comfy car with big copcar wheels and dog-dish hubcaps.

Funny though, how he tries to "build value" into the faded silver paint. :P

These things came stock with a 2.56:1 rear end, and used the Chevy 305-4bbl with 165 hp. Would changing the rear to a 3.42:1 really do much for this car? On one hand, it would let it rev up a bit quicker, but then on the other, wouldn't the tranny simply up-shift that much sooner?

qbrozen

Oddly enough, I like that one, too.

I LOVE the wheels.

changing out the rear would help quite a bit with acceleration, but he DESTROYED the gas mileage. Now it probably gets in the teens on the highway. ouch!

Mr_Shiftright

The '65 Lincoln Conti has been botched up with custom touches, so maybe $25,000?? I'm not sure what "blue crocodile upholstery" is and I'm not sure I want to know.

fintail

Expensive scrap metal

Could be a good driver if you can ignore the spelling

michaellno

Seems like a lot for a bunch of parts ... and the car is in California?

At least this Alfa is put together ... looks to be from the same seller as the car above

This might just satisfy my jones for a convertible

What the heck does "Tuxedo Park" have to do with this?

Overpriced?

Interesting vehicle to use to start a "rat rod"

Finally, someone who has a sane mind when it comes to price

andre1969

that '75 Dart looks horrible with the rear-end dropped like that! I used to have the back end of my '68 Dart jacked up with air shocks, and also have oversized 225/70/R14 tires on the back, with 205/07/R14's on the front. Darts look good jacked up, but lowered like that, it just makes it look like the leaf springs are shot!

qbrozen

If that Chevy truck is solid, I think that's a great price for a fantastic starting point on a hot rod truck. Drop in a crate motor and trans, send it off to the paint shop, do up the interior real nice, and you have yourself a real sweet ride.

lilengineerboy

The 63 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint 1600 is beautiful. I don't have a sense of what it should cost and it would be way beyond me to get that thing together again, but man, those 50s-60s Italian cars were just beautiful.
Just for kicks, here is something that is already over its worth and I'm not gonna touch it:
Audi Quattro

au1994

If, IF, the new top is the most expensive item the Caddy needs, that might not be a bad buy at 4k.

lemko

Something's funky with the grille on that '65 Cadillac. The center in intact, but it looks like the left and right portions have sheet metal substituted. Maybe the photography's bad?

Mr_Shiftright

The Alfa Sprint's value disassembled would be determined by the condition of the engine and transmission, which isn't mentioned. If it's also been rebuilt/restored like the rest of the car, then it's a good price. It should be worth $25,000 when done.

ghulet

....that Skylark convertible looks like a rat, even at $5500. I've never been fond of the lines on the '68-69 models so maybe I'm biased. Note the particularly bad bodywork on the LR fender, hate the color and quality of the paint and the '70s Keystone mags. Again, not expecting perfection for $5500, but I'd rather have a clean-slate restorable vehicle than one done badly at that price.

Speaking of Buicks, am I missing something on the price of this heap?:

http://chicago.craigslist.org/car/169284077.html

Lessee, fifteen year-old Buick, sitting in the weeds, needs a trans and the old no title. Sounds like fifteen hundred bucks to me, too. :P

andre1969

I especially like the phrase "won't last!" in the ad copy. Well duh, if the tranny is broken and you're selling it as a parts car, obviously it DIDN'T last! :P

Or maybe it won't last because rust is starting to set in, or it has a water leak starting, etc...

lilengineerboy

It would seem the poor chap couldn't put the pictures in the same advertisement as the original listing.
http://detroit.craigslist.org/car/169390671.html
http://detroit.craigslist.org/car/169415238.html

british_rover

Hmhh it is a LWB if it ran straight and only appeared to need the exhuast gasket I would offer him 1000.

lemko

Also - Buick engine blocks were not yellow back in 1968, they were red-orange - more red than orange. I had a 1968 Buick Special Deluxe.

Mr_Shiftright

You may have actually found a car worth LESS than nothing!!

Without a title, you can't even JUNK a car...so you'd need to have it cut up to get rid of it, or put up a bond to get another title, and THEN junk it...

lilengineerboy

I thought you would especially like that one.

andre1969

to get a replacement title for a car? I guess it varies from state to state? My buddy had to get a replacement title when he traded his '98 Tracker for his '06 Xterra. He had the original title, which showed a lien on it, and also had a paper stating it was paid off, but didn't have a lien-free title. I don't think it took too much effort to get a new one, at least in this case.

fintail

Lemko is right about that Caddy...I wonder what's up with that

These haven't been seen so expensive since they were new

Project for british_rover

british_rover

I kind of like the dash don't like the non original color

Doesn't seem to belong on craigs list but this is CT

100 bucks for a miata shell?

british_rover

Ughhh no way only P38 era Range Rovers I would want would be a Holland & Holland or a Rhino Edition.

andre1969

Forgive them, Lord, for they know not what they do! This one almost makes me want to cry.

british_rover

When you just absolutely, positively show up your neighbors H1 and spent 90 percent less money.

Another Classic range over priced by 1,500 dollars

Mr_Shiftright

Oh man, wouldn't you just love to drive that Duece and a Half through a Starbuck's some night?

RE: Miata Shell -- good for Spec Miata racer

andre1969

I've always liked those big 10-wheeler military trucks. Didn't Diamond-T used to build one too, back in the day? I guess since they're military-spec, a variety of low-cost bidders probably built these things over the ages?

british_rover

With my current commute, about five minutes until I close on my house at the end of the month, I would drive that thing everyday.

JP magazine had an article on those old Duece and a halfs a couple of months ago. Kaiser made them for a few years and so those are technicaly Jeeps.

The army rated them at a 10,000 lbs for towing and about the same for hauling.

I am trying to find a link to the article because it talked about a company in Utah that refurbished and sold them.

british_rover

Well this is not the site I was looking for but they have similar stuff.

http://www.fmtc.com/~imp/

http://www.clarktruck.com/trucks.cfm

Here are some more but still cannot find that one specific site. I will have to look up the magazine when I get home.

andre1969

that website has got me wanting one! I like the shorter 6-wheeler variant. I wonder what kind of fuel economy something like that would get?

british_rover

I thought you would like them. They are big and ugly.

The JP magazine I have talked about fuel mileage I will look it up when I get home.

If you had a big bit of property I think this would probably be the best vehicle for it. Tough as nails could pull trees right out of the ground and would never get stuck.

Would also be great if you had a military spec jeep to match it. Use the M38 to tow it shows and such.

I would like a troop carrier please

Full ebay listing

british_rover

I will just tow it with this.

xwesx

I had better not send that deuce-and-a-half link to my friend, Pete. He would probably snap it up in a heartbeat were it not for being on the other side of the country!
Then again, that might not stop him! He has a pair of M37s, an M38, and a 55 Willys wagon. His "new" vehicle is a '67 El Camino. *shakes his head*

fintail

When I was 15 this is what I wanted for my first car

fintail

Insanity is fun

andre1969

One of my Dad's first cars (I always get it mixed up as to whether it was this or a '64 Ford Galaxie 500 2-door hardtop, which he also had) was a 1963 Impala SS with a 409 and 4-speed. IIRC, there were a couple different 409's available then, and he ended up getting the top one, which I believe was 425 hp.

But then he got drafted, and sold it!

BTW, what was that other listing? It's deleted now.

british_rover

http://www.boyceequipment.com/

The 2 and a half ton truck in the article had a published two rating of 10,000 lbs and a published load rating of 16,688 lbs.