That's really not tickling me in the right spots. It has NOT been restored, it has merely been repaired and painted. And 12 years ago, at that!
So we have an old rebuild, a non-working odometer, which makes it TMU, nonmatching living room carpet stuffed around the floorboards. Ummmm... let's see ... am I missing anything?
I'm "feeling" $5500, personally. Maybe up to $6500 if its not as bad as it looks and I'm overemphasizing the bad stuff.
Its a '72, not a '62. And its just a driver, not a showcar.
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Ok, to give you a better idea, check out this from last year's Barrett Jackson. No pics, but the description says it all. Its a '60s MGB, which makes a BIG difference compared to the '70s. And its a complete $30k buildup. Sold for a mere $14k. http://www.barrett-jackson.com/auctionresults/common/cardetail.asp?id=180256
Edsel Pacer. Who are these appraisers that give such high values? Are they giving market values, agreed insurance values, top of the market pie in the sky values or what? If the car is really worth $6,500, why take much less? If it is not worth $6,500, why did the appraiser assign that value.
"We assume (the cars are in) strong #2 condition, with no stories attached. In other words, it has the original or near-original drivetrain, and is in very good physical condition in and out with no glaring faults."
The high and low ranges are supposed to be "hope to buy for" and "hope to sell for" ranges.
I haven't seen the car yet, but I think with a $100 or so spent on eBay and a few hours of detail work it should easily be a 3+ car.
I'm with gbrozen on the MGB--there are some troubling things about this car that justify a $6,500 price.
The fact that the crank was not addressed in the rebuild means that we have a crankshaft with over 100K on it, and on an MGB that should mean a rebuild coming up soon enough, or at least new main bearings and a polishing of the crankshaft.
It is most unfortunate that a Weber has been put on the car. I really do not believe for one minute that this car gets 30 MPG with a Weber, unless it has been jetted so lean as to be risky. The SUs are wonderful carburettors, and the car's originality has been compromised as well.
The master cylinder is a devil of a job and costly.
The broken odometer is no biggie but again, you have to pull the head out and have it rebuilt because the little gears have stripped out.
It's a nice car but it's not a fresh restoration and it needs a quick $2,000 bucks probably. We have new tires to buy + master cylinder + odometer + something with the oil pressure gauge + we have the old crankshaft to sweat with a new top end to pound on it.
I'd also have the car lifted before buying it, most definitely.
So yeah, $6,500 --$7,500 seems like plenty generous. For $10K-12K, you should be getting a no excuses car. After all, this is an MGB. They made ONE HALF MILLION of them and most of them ended up here, so really now, this is nothing rare.
And let's step back here for minute. Here's a guy who spent all this time on an ad, told you his family history, and he's trying to sell a car for top dollar with brakes that go to the floor when you drive it. What does that tell you?
APPRAISALS: Well sometimes an appraiser will be generous for insurance purposes. Appraisals aren't meant to be used as sales tools, they are meant to protect the owner. The appraiser (if he's any good) states right there in his appraisal that his appraisal is no guarantee whatsoever that the car will realize this price if sold.
I always ask people why they want an appraisal and if it's to know real world value I have another product that is cheaper and more sober.
All cars have a range of value....there's no "one number", and if for insurance the appraiser places the car on the high end of the value (without getting silly about it), I have no issue with that.
Real value of that Edsel? Geez, looks like $3,000 is all the money.
It was probably "appraised" by some shady antique dealer who doesn't understand how to grade a car, and who also cons old widows and mourning families out of their estates. I think a lot of this stuff exists out there. It looks OK, so it must be a #2 at least, right?
why do i feel so proud of myself when shifty agrees with me?
anyway, lemmer, check this out this '72 MGB. I wonder what the reserve is. The BIN is still too high. But I could see this one being a $9k car (would be $10k-$11k if the resto wasn't 8 years old).
Florida isn't too far of a drive for you, right?
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This car is interesting...the bench seat is very rare, I've seen it only twice. They were mainly used on universals and commercial vehicles. Special order maybe. And the wheel arch trims are unusual too, I've never seen that style. Period aftermarket accessory maybe...they are not like the trim on a 300SE.
You can see immediately how much more a car this '72 is than the last one. First of all, the GOODIES that have been added; then the overdrive transmission, which REALLY REALLY transforms the roadster into a car capable of driving on modern highways. And of course the original SU carbs, the electronic ignition, etc. There is a lot of value packed into this car.
Still, $14K seems too much by maybe 10-15%. I'd have to see these "blemishes" to price it more accurately.
GT Coupe-- actually a much better car to drive than the roadster, although a bit slower due to extra weight. The coupe windshield is taller, giving you a less claustrophobic feeling than the roadster with the top up. And the GT has a handy hatchback (world's first!!) where you can stuff a lotta things into that little car....more than you'd imagine. Also most GTs came with overdrive, a must on an MGB if you don't want to be droned into delirium on a long trip with top up. And much cheaper than a roaster to buy! What's not to like?
My understanding is that the Chrysler Enforcer was a cop car offered from 1961-64 with a 383 V-8. Dodge started going more after Plymouth, Chevy, and Ford in 1960, as opposed to the larger cars like Mercury, Olds, and Buick, and as a result their longer wheelbase cars started to trickle up.
The CHP had a minimum wheelbase requirement back then of something like 121 inches. Plymouths only had a 118" wheelbase, although I think the wagons were 122". The 1960-61 Dart was also on a 118" wheelbase.
For 1962, Chrysler shrunk all the Dodges to a 116" wheelbase, along with the Plymouths, and suddenly none of their cars were anywhere near the needed wheelbase for a CHP car. So that year, only the Chrysler, on its 122" wheelbase, would qualify. In mid-year though, Dodge did come out with the 880, basically a Newport with a 1961 Dodge front clip.
A '62 Enforcer should have a 383 though, not a 361. The 361 pretty much became a dog-motor after 1960, being offered mainly just as a 2-bbl carb model with 265 hp in the Newport, Dodge 880, the final DeSotos, and optional in some of the Plymouths and other Dodges.
I like it, of course, but unfortunately it's likely a parts car, esp if the rust is anything but insignificant. A full brake job including rotors and lines on that car would cost a pretty penny. And they can rust as good as any car. Fintails still don't have much upside. Maybe a good donor car for a car with a shot powertrain but is cosmetically excellent, if you could get it for a few hundred bucks. Or break it for spares.
Nope, ditched the 928 when we did an overall assessment of the car. We had a leaking waterpump, blown rear shocks and four bad tires...and of course if you do the waterpump you'd be crazy not to do the timing belt and idler bearings. So there's maybe $4,000 quick dollars, about the value of the entire car.
Next toy might be a black 914 targa punched out to 2.2 liters. It's got a super clean, rust-free freshly painted body, good upholstery and tires, and the engine and clutch will have been thoroughly and professionally rebuilt. Trying to close the deal for $8,500. I've had 914s before and they can be fun. They are great handling cars.
Decent looking old car but not worth too much. They drive nicely but are hard on gas and parts could be an issue. Still, this one looks to be in good shape. The AC could be $150 or $1,500...who can say?
I don't think you'd want this car with a stick. This is a big heavy coupe and very clunky to drive as a manual transmission car--especially an old BMW like this. It's a real GT car, it should be an automatic and probably worth more that way. Largest BMW I would tolerate with a stickshift would be a modern 5 series.
Might be a decent buy here up to $3,500 or so. A later 635Csi would bring more money and is more desirable.
Man, those are rough. I'm new to this forum, but that Mercedes reminds me of a story.
I was in college in Maryland and a guy I knew named Tim came back from a break with an older mercedes 4 door, I think it was one of those that didn't change styles for a long time, a boxy sort of sedan from the 70's. It wasn't too much later he stuffed 4-5 rugby players in it and was coming back from a game when the left front wheel suddenly ended up shoved up inside the wheel well and the ride came to a halt. They got it towed to a rural shop and the mechanic put her up on the lift and came out shaking his head, "yep...that's what frame rust will do to ya!" Seems the unit-body, altough flawless on the exterior was pretty rough on the underside and the car was a complete write-off because there was nothing solid to attach the suspension to.
Well, I have a project car/beater, but its not as rough as what folks are looking at here. Being cheap and handy at fixing, I like buying used - esp models that are not in demand very much and you can get for a song.
I got an Ebay 2000 Olds Intrigue GLS (loaded) with 90k for $5k. Major features - 3.5 northstar-derrived DOHC v6 aluminum block motor, flawless 4 speed auto, leather, seat heat, s roof, rockin' bose with 12 cd changer, dual climate, abs/stability control, chrome factory wheels, special nitrogen shocks.
Issues - three hail looking dents, hood/trunklid. Scratched trunklid from antenna. AC condenser blew two weeks after I got it home ($800 total). Had a bad steering clunk, lubed up the ISS myself, PITA but $0. Now, after commuting in it for a while its starting to leak quite a bit of powersteering fluid. Didn't look like it coming from the rack, but we'll see. For now just adding fluid.
I got a paint estimate for clear coat repairs of $600 here in Texas, which is pretty cheap.
Also, although the car is pretty nice inside, I got some of that sound-deadener stuff on-line and was thinking of seeing how quiet I could make it, but has not been a priority like the other repairs.
Not bad for $5k, but some issues and a dead brand, limited resale, but when I finish with my cars, they are well used.
$5K sounds decent for a late model car with the luxury stuff especially if you compare it to an Accord V6 or some similar of the same vintage. Usually on these cars people don't keep up with the little things, and they become worthless pretty quickly.
My MGB friend has decided that he is going to try to get the $14K Florida car. We are still going to look at the local car on Saturday.
Does anyone remember my friend with the high-mileage '96 Mustang GT Convertible? I guess it has been a month or so. He hasn't advertised it, just made discrete inquiries in his Mustang circles. No real interest in the car from anyone, so what has he done? - raised the price another $1,500 to $10,000. His Mustang buddies tell him it is worth that easy.
Another friend has an early '90s Intrepid, completely ragged inside and out, well north of 100K miles. He is asking $2800. I told him to take off the 2, but he did not seem to understand me. He seemed a little offended.
>>$5K sounds decent for a late model car with the luxury stuff especially if you compare it to an Accord V6 or some similar of the same vintage. Usually on these cars people don't keep up with the little things, and they become worthless pretty quickly. >> Yes, you can find those types, driven hard and put away wet and they have lots of "deferred maintenance". My Intrigue was a one-owner car, and had all receipts and religiously had fuilds changed. What he didn't do was clean the engine compartment at all - it was so disgusting I nearly didn't buy the car after traveling to get it (that and a few other surprises), but an adjustment to the price helped a lot. Some serious cleaning got it ship-shape now.
This car is amazing, is solid, rides firm and handles well, much like an import like Mercedes, and the DOHC motor revs freely to redline, a rarity for a GM motor, 4 wheel disks, etc.
On the drive home from buying it I got 33, 31, 30, 29 mpg (speed enforcement decreased as temperature increased and I started running the AC). It doesn't need to kick down for hills, the style still looks reasonably up to date (my neighbor thought it was an Acura or something).
I'm pretty happy, but we'll see how the Power Steering repair goes. If I have to replace the rack, so be it. Keeps me out of trouble. Wife says "how come you don't like Maxima? Wait, I know, you don't get to work on the Maxima as it doesn't have any problems!" (Wife is smart cookie LOL)
I don't think I've ever seen a x33 model before. I wonder how reliable they are. If the guy had any feedback, i might be showing it to the wife right now. Oh well.
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tell your buddy good luck on that florida mg. looks real nice. Has he found out the reserve yet?
Your mustang buddy, on the other hand, is living in a grand world of lollipops and rainbows. Can I get driving directions to this place?
I love people that give advice like "oh yeah, that car is worth 1 million bucks!!" Yet they don't buy it from you for the "bargain" price you are asking and resell it for a huge profit. Hmmmmm....
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I'm up in the air on this one. I think its not a bad starting price, if its as nice as claimed.
This worries me, though: more rust-free than any Mini I've previously owned
That kind of reminds me of someone giving you driving directions and saying "you wanna turn 1 mile before the minimallmarketjamboree." HUH? How do I know I'm 1 mile BEFORE a place I've never been to?! Obviously, this man is using a frame of reference only HE is capable of understanding. Does me NO good!
Also, I think I'm still more intrigued by that Mini importer who installs a Honda drivetrain. Anyone know the place I'm talking about? I read it in one of the car mags, but that's all I know and can remember. I thought it was a neat idea ... although I believe they were about $15k. You do get an all-new car for that price, though.
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That ad is just full of great contradictions and daydreams.
After driving the Rover I found that the steering is wonderfully tight and drives excellent on the highway ..... I replaced both front drive shaft u-joints, front and rear springs and rear shocks.
Yeah, cause when a car drives tight, straight, and "wonderfully," I always replace the suspension.
An exterior paint job could put this Rover in beautiful condition.
Ummm... Dude ... have you LOOKED at the pictures you took of the interior??!
Hey, I'm not saying the Rover is in horrible shape, but this guy is trying to sell the diamond when it's still a piece of coal.
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After driving the Rover I found that the steering is wonderfully tight and drives excellent on the highway.
Hmhhh that is a serious euphanism right there. No old Rover drives tight like that and none of them drive great on the highway. Anything over 45 mph is just freaking scary in one of them.
I like the line about referring to it as "buried treasure". Now that inspires confidence....also about the tree falling on it. I wonder how all the mechanical internals enjoyed being buried?
It's a fun old vehicle but I don't see $8,000 here. I see maybe half that. I've seen totally spiffed ones inside and out for $12K--$15K and how you gonna get from what he has to "spiff" for $4,000--$7,000?
well... i'm not going to post a link for obvious reasons. Besides, i'm sure it will be deleted soon, but a young lady has posted a picture of herself on my local craigslist and has asked for a car in exchange for something other than money.
I think Myspace has ruined the web. ;(
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It's an old police car. It's been beaten to death therefore. Go watch a few episodes of "COPS" and maybe even $5K will sound like too much.
I bought an old police car once and I have to tell you---and this sounds silly---there's a kind of karma about the car that always gave me the creeps.
Funny part about the car though. It was from Marin County, and in the cage in the back was a sticker "Thank you for not smoking".
True story!!!
RE: Trading car for XXXXXXX: Maybe she's just being honest--this type of thing is not unheard of in even respectable circles. I mean, people have been known to kill for cars, so why not this? Gee, I hope she doesn't settle for a Metro or something...
We did the normal service on the state police vehicles in my area of VA and what the normal person considers a standard service and what the VA state government considers normal service is very different.
Oil changed with the cheapest stuff they could get that was supposebly less then 25 cents a quart. No real set change interval although as long as 10,000 miles was not unusual. Also cop cars so a lot of idling which is very hard on the oil.
Air filters were rarely ever changed and neither was tranny or rear end fluid.
I know the pics don't say much, and the description is even worse, but I can tell you that Rumson is one of the swankiest areas in the state. Kinda like the Beverly Hills of NJ.
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So we have an old rebuild, a non-working odometer, which makes it TMU, nonmatching living room carpet stuffed around the floorboards. Ummmm... let's see ... am I missing anything?
I'm "feeling" $5500, personally. Maybe up to $6500 if its not as bad as it looks and I'm overemphasizing the bad stuff.
Its a '72, not a '62. And its just a driver, not a showcar.
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http://www.barrett-jackson.com/auctionresults/common/cardetail.asp?id=180256
they also show a '74 from last year that sold for $7700, and its a fresh rebuild with new paint, etc. But it is a rubber bumper model.
http://www.barrett-jackson.com/auctionresults/common/cardetail.asp?id=181053
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The SCM price guide has the following values for the MGBs in #2 condition, so those sales look spot on.
1962-1967: $12,000-$17,000
1968-1974: $10,000-$15,000
1975-1980: $ 5,000-$10,000
I get the feel this is probably a #3 car, so I am going to stick with the $8K number until Shifty sends me down in flames.
The seller is motivated as he is retiring downsizing, and moving out of state, but I doubt he would be sufficiently motivated by $5,500-$6,500.
What are the descriptions of cars that meet these levels? (i've never looked at SCM)
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The high and low ranges are supposed to be "hope to buy for" and "hope to sell for" ranges.
I haven't seen the car yet, but I think with a $100 or so spent on eBay and a few hours of detail work it should easily be a 3+ car.
The fact that the crank was not addressed in the rebuild means that we have a crankshaft with over 100K on it, and on an MGB that should mean a rebuild coming up soon enough, or at least new main bearings and a polishing of the crankshaft.
It is most unfortunate that a Weber has been put on the car. I really do not believe for one minute that this car gets 30 MPG with a Weber, unless it has been jetted so lean as to be risky. The SUs are wonderful carburettors, and the car's originality has been compromised as well.
The master cylinder is a devil of a job and costly.
The broken odometer is no biggie but again, you have to pull the head out and have it rebuilt because the little gears have stripped out.
It's a nice car but it's not a fresh restoration and it needs a quick $2,000 bucks probably. We have new tires to buy + master cylinder + odometer + something with the oil pressure gauge + we have the old crankshaft to sweat with a new top end to pound on it.
I'd also have the car lifted before buying it, most definitely.
So yeah, $6,500 --$7,500 seems like plenty generous. For $10K-12K, you should be getting a no excuses car. After all, this is an MGB. They made ONE HALF MILLION of them and most of them ended up here, so really now, this is nothing rare.
And let's step back here for minute. Here's a guy who spent all this time on an ad, told you his family history, and he's trying to sell a car for top dollar with brakes that go to the floor when you drive it. What does that tell you?
APPRAISALS: Well sometimes an appraiser will be generous for insurance purposes. Appraisals aren't meant to be used as sales tools, they are meant to protect the owner. The appraiser (if he's any good) states right there in his appraisal that his appraisal is no guarantee whatsoever that the car will realize this price if sold.
I always ask people why they want an appraisal and if it's to know real world value I have another product that is cheaper and more sober.
All cars have a range of value....there's no "one number", and if for insurance the appraiser places the car on the high end of the value (without getting silly about it), I have no issue with that.
Real value of that Edsel? Geez, looks like $3,000 is all the money.
Saturday, I am going to look at the car with my friend and I will adjust the offer based upon the fine advice I have received from you and QB.
anyway, lemmer, check this out this
'72 MGB. I wonder what the reserve is. The BIN is still too high. But I could see this one being a $9k car (would be $10k-$11k if the resto wasn't 8 years old).
Florida isn't too far of a drive for you, right?
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'68 MG GT
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I've never heard of an "Enforcer", but this looks nice...good color
This car is interesting...the bench seat is very rare, I've seen it only twice. They were mainly used on universals and commercial vehicles. Special order maybe. And the wheel arch trims are unusual too, I've never seen that style. Period aftermarket accessory maybe...they are not like the trim on a 300SE.
Still, $14K seems too much by maybe 10-15%. I'd have to see these "blemishes" to price it more accurately.
GT Coupe-- actually a much better car to drive than the roadster, although a bit slower due to extra weight. The coupe windshield is taller, giving you a less claustrophobic feeling than the roadster with the top up. And the GT has a handy hatchback (world's first!!) where you can stuff a lotta things into that little car....more than you'd imagine. Also most GTs came with overdrive, a must on an MGB if you don't want to be droned into delirium on a long trip with top up. And much cheaper than a roaster to buy! What's not to like?
The CHP had a minimum wheelbase requirement back then of something like 121 inches. Plymouths only had a 118" wheelbase, although I think the wagons were 122". The 1960-61 Dart was also on a 118" wheelbase.
For 1962, Chrysler shrunk all the Dodges to a 116" wheelbase, along with the Plymouths, and suddenly none of their cars were anywhere near the needed wheelbase for a CHP car. So that year, only the Chrysler, on its 122" wheelbase, would qualify. In mid-year though, Dodge did come out with the 880, basically a Newport with a 1961 Dodge front clip.
A '62 Enforcer should have a 383 though, not a 361. The 361 pretty much became a dog-motor after 1960, being offered mainly just as a 2-bbl carb model with 265 hp in the Newport, Dodge 880, the final DeSotos, and optional in some of the Plymouths and other Dodges.
LT1 Caprice
And the crappiest pics award goes to the owner of this Jag
While optimist of the year goes to this hopeless romantic
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This could be cool, but please clean the whitewalls
The big local high end used lot has this modified C43. All that work for maybe 7K over retail, and their prices are always inflated. I looked at this car...some of it is cool (I've been thinking about one of those avantgarde grilles), but those wheels are ridiculous and the paint is not up to MB quality
You still have that 928 as your toy now that you have a new daily driver?
Next toy might be a black 914 targa punched out to 2.2 liters. It's got a super clean, rust-free freshly painted body, good upholstery and tires, and the engine and clutch will have been thoroughly and professionally rebuilt. Trying to close the deal for $8,500. I've had 914s before and they can be fun. They are great handling cars.
I bet this is a bad 944.
I don't know anything about Mercs but I bet this is totally worthless.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-6-Series-1978-BMW-633csi_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQca- tegoryZ6129QQihZ005QQitemZ150002704407QQrdZ1
If nothing else, I'm guessing the AC problem could be expensive I certainly would like to "know why" it doesn't work.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I don't think you'd want this car with a stick. This is a big heavy coupe and very clunky to drive as a manual transmission car--especially an old BMW like this. It's a real GT car, it should be an automatic and probably worth more that way. Largest BMW I would tolerate with a stickshift would be a modern 5 series.
Might be a decent buy here up to $3,500 or so. A later 635Csi would bring more money and is more desirable.
Odd duck in a way....
I was in college in Maryland and a guy I knew named Tim came back from a break with an older mercedes 4 door, I think it was one of those that didn't change styles for a long time, a boxy sort of sedan from the 70's. It wasn't too much later he stuffed 4-5 rugby players in it and was coming back from a game when the left front wheel suddenly ended up shoved up inside the wheel well and the ride came to a halt. They got it towed to a rural shop and the mechanic put her up on the lift and came out shaking his head, "yep...that's what frame rust will do to ya!" Seems the unit-body, altough flawless on the exterior was pretty rough on the underside and the car was a complete write-off because there was nothing solid to attach the suspension to.
I got an Ebay 2000 Olds Intrigue GLS (loaded) with 90k for $5k. Major features - 3.5 northstar-derrived DOHC v6 aluminum block motor, flawless 4 speed auto, leather, seat heat, s roof, rockin' bose with 12 cd changer, dual climate, abs/stability control, chrome factory wheels, special nitrogen shocks.
Issues - three hail looking dents, hood/trunklid. Scratched trunklid from antenna. AC condenser blew two weeks after I got it home ($800 total). Had a bad steering clunk, lubed up the ISS myself, PITA but $0. Now, after commuting in it for a while its starting to leak quite a bit of powersteering fluid. Didn't look like it coming from the rack, but we'll see. For now just adding fluid.
I got a paint estimate for clear coat repairs of $600 here in Texas, which is pretty cheap.
Also, although the car is pretty nice inside, I got some of that sound-deadener stuff on-line and was thinking of seeing how quiet I could make it, but has not been a priority like the other repairs.
Not bad for $5k, but some issues and a dead brand, limited resale, but when I finish with my cars, they are well used.
Dirk
Does anyone remember my friend with the high-mileage '96 Mustang GT Convertible? I guess it has been a month or so. He hasn't advertised it, just made discrete inquiries in his Mustang circles. No real interest in the car from anyone, so what has he done? - raised the price another $1,500 to $10,000. His Mustang buddies tell him it is worth that easy.
Another friend has an early '90s Intrepid, completely ragged inside and out, well north of 100K miles. He is asking $2800. I told him to take off the 2, but he did not seem to understand me. He seemed a little offended.
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Yes, you can find those types, driven hard and put away wet and they have lots of "deferred maintenance". My Intrigue was a one-owner car, and had all receipts and religiously had fuilds changed. What he didn't do was clean the engine compartment at all - it was so disgusting I nearly didn't buy the car after traveling to get it (that and a few other surprises), but an adjustment to the price helped a lot. Some serious cleaning got it ship-shape now.
This car is amazing, is solid, rides firm and handles well, much like an import like Mercedes, and the DOHC motor revs freely to redline, a rarity for a GM motor, 4 wheel disks, etc.
On the drive home from buying it I got 33, 31, 30, 29 mpg (speed enforcement decreased as temperature increased and I started running the AC). It doesn't need to kick down for hills, the style still looks reasonably up to date (my neighbor thought it was an Acura or something).
I'm pretty happy, but we'll see how the Power Steering repair goes. If I have to replace the rack, so be it. Keeps me out of trouble. Wife says "how come you don't like Maxima? Wait, I know, you don't get to work on the Maxima as it doesn't have any problems!" (Wife is smart cookie LOL)
Dirk
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I don't think I've ever seen a x33 model before. I wonder how reliable they are. If the guy had any feedback, i might be showing it to the wife right now. Oh well.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Your mustang buddy, on the other hand, is living in a grand world of lollipops and rainbows. Can I get driving directions to this place?
I love people that give advice like "oh yeah, that car is worth 1 million bucks!!" Yet they don't buy it from you for the "bargain" price you are asking and resell it for a huge profit. Hmmmmm....
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Local Grand Wagoneer. I like it, but I get annoyed with cars that are supposedly 'no expense spared' cars and something major needs fixing.
Old Rover for Rover guy.
This worries me, though: more rust-free than any Mini I've previously owned
That kind of reminds me of someone giving you driving directions and saying "you wanna turn 1 mile before the minimallmarketjamboree." HUH? How do I know I'm 1 mile BEFORE a place I've never been to?! Obviously, this man is using a frame of reference only HE is capable of understanding. Does me NO good!
Also, I think I'm still more intrigued by that Mini importer who installs a Honda drivetrain. Anyone know the place I'm talking about? I read it in one of the car mags, but that's all I know and can remember. I thought it was a neat idea ... although I believe they were about $15k. You do get an all-new car for that price, though.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
After driving the Rover I found that the steering is wonderfully tight and drives excellent on the highway .....
I replaced both front drive shaft u-joints, front and rear springs and rear shocks.
Yeah, cause when a car drives tight, straight, and "wonderfully," I always replace the suspension.
An exterior paint job could put this Rover in beautiful condition.
Ummm... Dude ... have you LOOKED at the pictures you took of the interior??!
Hey, I'm not saying the Rover is in horrible shape, but this guy is trying to sell the diamond when it's still a piece of coal.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Hmhhh that is a serious euphanism right there. No old Rover drives tight like that and none of them drive great on the highway. Anything over 45 mph is just freaking scary in one of them.
It's a fun old vehicle but I don't see $8,000 here. I see maybe half that. I've seen totally spiffed ones inside and out for $12K--$15K and how you gonna get from what he has to "spiff" for $4,000--$7,000?
http://newjersey.craigslist.org/car/176348161.html
Does that seem too cheap to anyone else? I mean, yeah, its got over 100k miles, but its only 3 years old.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I think Myspace has ruined the web. ;(
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I bought an old police car once and I have to tell you---and this sounds silly---there's a kind of karma about the car that always gave me the creeps.
Funny part about the car though. It was from Marin County, and in the cage in the back was a sticker "Thank you for not smoking".
True story!!!
RE: Trading car for XXXXXXX: Maybe she's just being honest--this type of thing is not unheard of in even respectable circles. I mean, people have been known to kill for cars, so why not this?
We did the normal service on the state police vehicles in my area of VA and what the normal person considers a standard service and what the VA state government considers normal service is very different.
Oil changed with the cheapest stuff they could get that was supposebly less then 25 cents a quart. No real set change interval although as long as 10,000 miles was not unusual. Also cop cars so a lot of idling which is very hard on the oil.
Air filters were rarely ever changed and neither was tranny or rear end fluid.
http://newjersey.craigslist.org/car/176288729.html
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
http://newjersey.craigslist.org/car/176281195.html
put the heart pills down, shifty, i'm just kidding ... sort of.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
http://www.kimini.com/
http://newjersey.craigslist.org/car/176195032.html
I know the pics don't say much, and the description is even worse, but I can tell you that Rumson is one of the swankiest areas in the state. Kinda like the Beverly Hills of NJ.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S