2009 Toyota Corolla

ever12

I wouldn't take a website called "pretty girl motorshow" seriously. The english is pretty terrible on that site as well: "Toyota Motor Corporation promises to give more powerful design and car parts like catalytic converter at par, if not comparable to a Renault Catalytic Converter."
wtf?

ever12

"No, there will be a 4 dr Corolla sedan and a 5 door Matrix."

Are you sure? I lot of reputable websites have said that we will get a 3 door. And what about all these spy photos of the 3 door Auris that have been spotted in Detriot. Look at the Michigan plates:

http://www.thecarconnection.com/Enthusiasts/Spy_Shots/Spy_Shots_Toyota_Hatchback- - _Coupe.S178.A10712.html

http://jalopnik.com/cars/spy-photos/spy-photos-2008-toyota-corolla-193579.php

ever12

"No. It would compete directly with the 3 door Yaris.
Mack "

The xB, xD, and the Matrix more or less compete with each other. More so than the Yaris and Auris would anyway. The xB and the Matrix sell well and the xD doesn't have much of a track record yet, but the xA sold pretty well.

mackabee

One thing is compete and the other is cannibalize. The Yaris and Auris are pretty much the same car. The Matrix does not cannibalize sales from Scion. Most Scion customers aren't even looking at a Toyota.
Mack

ever12

The Scion xB and xD are pretty similar in pricing and styling. Look at them next to each other and they are of a very similar shape. The only thing that's somewhat similar between the Auris and the Yaris is their frontal styling. The Auris uses the Corolla's E platform and is aimed at being a more upscale variant to the Afla Romeo 147 and Renault Megane. The Yaris is a more of a bare subcompact version of the Toyota ist/Scion xD.

mackabee

Interesting, but I don't see any similarities in styling between the xD and xB. The xB actually shares more components with the tC. You are correct about the ist and xD, it's the same car. Look at the Jdm version of the four door Yaris and it's virtually the same as the Auris.

Mackabee

mackabee

Here's one we never got.
http://www.carspace.com/mackabee/Albums/More%20pics%20from%20Frankfurt%20show/DS- C00411.JPG/page/photo.html#pic

eldaino

anyone notice that the new valvematic 2.0 was mentioned as being offered in the xd? wtf? misprint? or is this available in the ist?

kdhspyder

I'm sure. The specs have been issued internally and there is no change from the current configurations. Now down the road a couple of years...???

rv65

Toyota is confirming a SEMA debut for the new corolla. The car will be identical to the new Euro/Aussie Corolla sedan. Maybe with some tweaks here and there.

elemoncelli

I saw a car in the highway here in Orlando that looked suspiciously like the 5 door version of the new corolla we've all seen on the net. :surprise: Maybe the new Matrix? In the half second glance I got at it I liked what I saw.

rv65

I do expect a 4 disc cd changer equipped navigation system with bluetooth. The interior is identical to the Euro Sedan. Same with the style with some tweaks.

rv65

The grille will looks more like the currenty camry but still identical. The taillamps don't have amber signals they have red signals.

drfill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT7PIiwHomE&mode=related&search=

DrFill

rv65

That's pretty much the US version!

kenym

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/07/17/sema-preview-toyota-to-unveil-2009-corolla-he- avy-duty-tundra-a/

mackabee

That's old news around here.

Mackabee

mackabee

While we are waiting:

mackabee

mackabee

jaxs1

Since the RAV4, and all Scions still have 4-speed automatics, I wonder if Toyota would go ahead and take the chance of not upgrading to a 5-speed automatic for the 2009 Corolla.

backy

Really looks like a cross between the Yaris and Camry... which I guess it is. But I like the dash better than the Camry's.

nippononly

I do believe they will. How would it look for the new $18K Corolla to have a 5-speed auto when the $20-something RAV still has a 4-speed?

This will put Toyota at a disadvantage right out of the gate of course. Gives the Civic an edge.

drfill

You can make the argument that Corolla WILL get a 5-speed, based on market conditions, and Corolla's overall value to the Toyota lineup, which supercedes Rav4. Anything to make the car more efficient should be considered, and expected.

In 2009, the Rav4 is due for a facelift. Maybe it will get 5-speeds then?

You have to start somewhere. Why not #1?

DrFill

elemoncelli

That seems reasonable. Hope your right Dr. Fill.

jaxs1

The most direct competitor to the Corolla is the Civic and the Civic has a 5-speed automatic and would have had it for more than 2 years at the release of the 2009 Corolla. The next direct competitor is the Nissan Sentra that has a CVT.

If Toyota comes out with a 4-speed automatic on a 2009 model year newly redesigned vehicle touting a navigation system and leather seats, it will look really bad, but I can see it happening as some kind of cost cutting move.

drfill

It wouldn't really matter, unless the EPA numbers were lower than the competition.

With two different engines coming, the chances both will have 4-speeds is pretty slim.

DrFill

mackabee

The dash is nice, sort of the "waterfall" look.

Mackabee

elemoncelli

Two different engines? Did I miss something. We all know one wont be a diesel Apparently I'm clueless, can you please clue me in?

drfill

That would top the range, a la Mazda3, which was Corolla's rumored design benchmark.

DrFill

kdhspyder

Two different engines? Did I miss something. We all know one wont be a diesel Apparently I'm clueless, can you please clue me in?

The specs are published already for both the Corolla and Matrix. I listed some of them earlier in this thread. What is known is that there will be 4 trims and 7 models of the Corolla and 3 trims and 7 models of the Matrix ( the S Matrix will come both FWD and 4WD ).

The Base and LE models will have the 1.8L engine but the S and XRS will have something different...probably the 2.0L with ValveMatic. That is not confirmed at all though.

hs87

Does this engine even fit the Corolla platform, though?

mackabee

Why wouldn't it? They are only boring out the pistons .02 displacement.
Mackabee

mackabee

"In 2009, the Rav4 is due for a facelift. Maybe it will get 5-speeds then? "

You mean like this?


or this!



or maybe this!



Mackabee

eldaino

the interior looks great, and the general lines of the car are pleasant, very camryish, but i can still see the old model creeping up.

jaxs1

These photos are from non-US markets. The US Corolla may look different.
Same with those RAV4 "facelift" photos.

mackabee

True, true, but if you haven't noticed lately we are getting models from other markets as new. ex, Yaris.


This interior is identical to our RAV4 other than the Nav and the wheel is on the right.
Mack

jaxs1

The Corolla interior shows automatic temperature control, which is very unlikely to make it to the US even if the navigation does.

drfill

Good job, Mack.

I fully expect that to make it here. They'll even save money on the headlights, sharing them with the Camry!

DrFill

cubssoxs

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=122802

This was on insideline.com basically info that everyone here knows about.

cubssoxs

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9070927.001/2009-toyota-corolla-and-matrix-at-sema

Well, 09 corolla and 09 matrix will be revealed on October 31. The question now is will Toyota give us a trick or treat.

mackabee

Well let's see a comparison.

mackabee

The Yaris and Prius...;)

mackabee

Looks like this time they will be giving the Blade to Pontiac as a Vibe and we'll be getting stuck with another boring Matrix.
Mack

drfill

We may get something besides the Blade in a Matrix package.

The Matrix is larger than the Blade to begin with. :surprise:

DrFill

backy

It's hard to tell w/o seeing the rear, but from this angle I think there is a strong resemblence to the Kia C'eed and the Hyundai i30 (which I think are pretty much the same car). Headlamps are different, but otherwise the front end and side profile are very similar.

mackabee

Don't you hate the suspense!

cubssoxs

so is the new matrix still going to be called the matrix or is it going to be called the blade

kdhspyder

The corolla-based vehicle will still be the Matrix. We may get another 'wagon' type vehicle, more known this weekend, based on the Camry but the name is not known. Blade would be a cool name but probably not.

mackabee

That "wagon type" vehicle you speak of is based on the Mark X ZIO wagon. You can see it now on www.toyota.co.jp Why we need another wagon is beyond me but hey that's why I sell them and not make the decisions on who gets them.
Mackabee
You can see it here:
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