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A/C is not limited to only cooling the car on hot days.
A/C should be run every few weeks year round anyway to keep it from seizing due to non-use.
Hope that helps.
Toyota web site does not have this color.
Is this something new ?
Overall, I feel about the rav the same way I always do about Toyota's: it will be a dependable, functional, quiet vehicle that we do not love because of interior comfort. The controls are laid out ok, but the interior is (imo) ugly. The armrests are fabric (the rough kind) for some reason. They give you audio controls on the limited's steering wheel but the controls look chintzy and unattractive, and there are only 4 of them as I recall. The Mariner's fit & finish and material quality inside is far better, but... it's a Ford and we know what that means. I was really hoping that with the advances that Honda has made in interior fit/finish, and even Hyundai (we are very impressed with the new Sonata!), that Toyota would get a clue, but alas... same old Toyota. They went partway but for a few hundred more could've gone much further.
The only real question is whether we spring for a dependable but completely unexciting RAV or wait for the new CRV...
Does anyone know when the 2006 RAVs crash test ratings will be available?
We have a barcolona red Limited and love it!! Very happy
Frank
Frank
I LOVE the new Rav4. I drove a base model on Friday and was pretty impressed. I am worried about a couple things, power being the first!!! I live in Pittsburgh- snow, hills, etc. I fly up hills in my RSX (which I like) will I be able to achieve the same results in the 4cylinder? I am not interested in the V6 I commute 50+ miles a day to and from work . so I am also concerned about mileage. I am not in a hurry, but I am excited about the possible purchase. I know I want the Sport 4, moon roof in pacific blue. Should I wait for more choices on dealer lots to get a better price? How long do you think that will take? :shades:
THE STD. TONNEAU COVER AND SUPPORT POLES ON THE LIMITED WON'T LAST TOO LONG THEY ARE JUNK.
BUT I THINK THAT MORE BUYERS ARE INTERESTED IN MORE CUP HOLDERS THAN PRACTICAL ITEMS LIKE SIDE AIR BAGS.
THIS FALL WHEN ALMOST ALL THE MAKES WILL HAVE A NEW REDESIGNED SUV THERE WILL BE MORE USEFUL CHOICES.
I COULD LIVE WITHOUT A MOON ROOF SUPER ALLOY WHEELS
OR 16 SPEAKERS.
Frank
Frank
They have Sports coming in at very good amounts off list. And Chambersburgh is not far from Pittsburgh I do not think.
In NY the local dealers a playing it coy and want
MSRP unless it is loaded Limited it seems. I image it will take a few months before that clears. I am going to wait to drive the V6 Sport. My guess on the highway, the V6 with 5 speed, which has a much lower rpm at highway speeds will do close to I4 with 4 speed on MPG.
I'd say that the reason Toy. has kept the 4 cyl in the lineup is to keep the entry price on the vehicle as low as possible. Also- I wouldn't be surprise if the actual fuel economy difference will be a bit more than the EPA estimates reveal. With all that extra power available, some drivers might want to use it.
RAV=Camry
Highlander=Avalon
In the new iteration of the Highlander they will likely drop the 4c model. The RAV has it all over the 4c Highlander. Now make the 4c Highlander the Hybrid model and then you have a good potential to increase volume.
Some paint protectants (not all, some) are substantially more than a coat of wax. I offer a product that guarantees the customer they won't have permanent bug splatters, acid rain, oxidation, or paint damage from bird droppings/tree sap for 5 years.
To demonstrate this product, I show people a piece of painted metal covered that has had the protectant applied and spraypaint the metal. After this dries, I take a cloth and simply wipe off the paint. You CANNOT do this on unprotected paint.
In regards to actual rustproofing, most manufactures will actually void your factory rust warranty by applying an aftermarket rustproof product. Be careful!
BTW, $700 is way too much for an environmental product.
Second, I, too, have heard favorable testimonials about some paint protectants, which can really act like teflon. They're not superhuman force fields, but can certainly be more than a coat of wax. Be sure to find out what the dealer's selling and investigate on your own.
Rustproofing is, I agree, a complete waste of money. You'd have to regularly park a modern car in the Dead Sea to see rust.
Fabric and leather protection is always way-overpriced, and equal to the same $10-20 bottle of the stuff you can buy and apply yourself. BUT, sometimes dealers will offer to clean any and all scuff marks and stains for life, so if you think of it as an insurance policy, then it's arguably worthwhile.
But for all these options, remember that you can shop around for better deals on these services.
Frank
rs
Next year all 4 might be on different platforms.
Waving a piece of painted metal around sounds like a parlor trick. All that mop and glow stuff is just an extra profit center for the dealer.
Steve, Host
How is the noise factor? I have been reading conflicting reviews about that subject.
BTW, I saw your Barcelona Red on the rav4world website. Very nice ride!
Ken
Back in the 80's the buzz at dealers was about "polyglycoat". IIRC it ran about $200. Big bucks for a wax type product you could buy at any auto parts store. If there was some magic formula out there you wouldn't be able to turn a page of Car & Driver without reading about it.
me: Do a $/hp analysis, and think about little extra you're paying for so much more!
I would think that if you're planning on keeping the RAV for a very long time, and can live with the moderate power do the 4cyl. If you're going to trade or private sell the Rav in 3 years i think it will be much easier to sell the 6cyl. and get a good price.
My personal opinion is that the 6cyl is what makes the Rav special. If I wanted a 4 cyl. SUV there are many other competitors out there with actual sale prices $5K+ less money. I'm looking at an ad right now fro an Xterra S auto/6-cyl 4x4 that's MSRP $25K and has $5,500 rebates and discounts. I'm not saying the Xterra is perfect or a direct competitor, but consider VALUE.
Do side-by-side comparisions and see where the Rav comes out, then look at real-world prices and see if you think 4 cyl. Ravs are still a good deal.
Compare the lease costs and see.
There is a process that a custom shop can do that involves removing all the carpeting and seats and then they lay down a lead-impregnated material over the entire floor of the vehicle. This will lower the noise about 75%. For my Olds van it is about $800.00; mostly labor.
As for paint sealant...The vehicle comes clear-coated. My neighbor just had his new Land Rover coated with some kind of clear-coat that has to be baked on. He's an off-roader and this is supposed to protect from rock chips and scratches. Pricey stuff.
Don't get caught up with dealer-offered extras. If it was worth consideration, the factory probably would offer it as an option. I hope this was helpful.
Larry
Actually the Rav4 is VERY quiet, I honestly have no idea where this comes from? We took a 160 mile trip last weekend and were amazed on how quiet at highway speeds (65-70 mph) it was..
Frank
There is no "parlor trick" in what I show the customer. Tell you what, take some black spray paint and put it on your personal car, then take a cloth and try to wipe it off. Then tell me it's a "parlor trick".
There was a short time ago when we had a vehicle Xziloned on the showroom floor and I would actually spraypaint the vehicle and then wipe off the dried paint.
Believe it or not, not all of our products are just extra profit centers. Everything I offer a customer has value and is a win-win. If it doesn't benefit the customer, I don't offer it (etch is a good example).
Clear-Coat is nothing but a coat of paint without pigment. It does next to nothing in protecting your paint from the elements.
I wonder if the V6 model can make things better.
Overall, I found the RAV (base model) to be far more noisier than my '03 Maxima SE. And I believe the Max is noisier than a typical Camry.
"Does anyone know anything about the "Xzilon" molecular Adhesion that the dealership offers at the table for about $400? I live in Georgia and just purchased the XC90 and was told we get a lot of acid rain in our area? Any opinions?"
The response:
"Its mop and glo, its not worth it.
Just wax your car."
The author of that response was a long time car salesman. :shades: Here's the link to the post:
volvomax, "Volvo XC90 SUV" #4489, 4 Jan 2006 10:19 am
Sounds like snake oil to me.
Steve, Host