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The EPA protects Americans from dangerous air and water. There is no Conservative or Liberal way to accomplish that.
Modern diesels still produce some PM, even when they use ULSD or biodiesel, thus the filters on the exhaust systems. If the refiners were required to remove more of the aromatic compounds found in diesel fuel, then particulate levels would drop significantly.
Maybe where you shop. Ours went from $1.29 per lb to $2.99 over that time frame. I guess you do not consider destroying $250 million worth of tomatoes a big deal. The FDA screwed up. It must be nice to only have good thoughts about the waste of tax dollars. I am just not of that ilk.
Just listen Lou Dobbs...
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/presidentbush/2008/07/should-bush-be.html
Clinton was owned by the same special interest groups.
I'm disappointed, I thought for sure you would be camped out at the dealer waiting for the first TDI to get delivered.
Here's a smathering of indicators why.
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But the history will indicate I got the last year of the A-4 model/platform year- 03. I also got the second to the last year- 04 of the Gen-7 Honda Civic (gasser). :shades:
The thing for me that puts the woo in the woo hoo is the 50 mpg with 34% more # ft of torque!!! (155# ft vs 236# ft). Hp is up @ 140 from 90 hp (36%)
And that's bad... why?
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... I think if this technology and Green Diesel Corp's injector can be brought to market, and a properly built and tuned engine, we are looking at 75 MPG in a small sedal. Hybrids will not even be a factor; however a huge amount of money is going to be wasted on the soon to be hyped hybrids by the PR gangs.
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While this might be, I do not know how current this is.
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But while it's here:
Gary, were you head of the FDA when the salmonella outbreak started, what would you have done differently?
(regardless of your answer, there is no GOOD answer. They went on the evidence they had at the time and made a decision in the best interest of SAFETY. My kids' life is worth more than $250 million of tomatoes. Your grandkids' lives are too I'd bet. The good of the many matters more than the good of the few.)
I was VERY close last week (just saying "yes") to buying a solar water heater system for $6200 with tax credits and utility rebates making the net cost to me $2250 but instead I opted for a "lifetime warranty" Marathon water tank and a heat pump add-on which will reduce my hot water cost by even more than the solar would have and costs about $200 less than solar. Payback 4 years versus about 8 for the solar system. Solar water heaters are great but are not perfect for EVERY situation.
On the "Diesels in the News" front:
GMC to use a urea tank in future clean diesels? Maybe.....
(as we are often on opposite sides of the discussion)
but you made a good decision! ....
back to regular programming
So like I have said, there is REALLY no energy crisis.
But for developers, the study may be a fast track to the slow lane. While the Bureau of Land Management, which controls 67 percent of Nevada land, including many rural areas where solar arrays would be located, completes a lengthy study, the agency will impose a moratorium on new applications to put solar panels on federal land. Developers will have to wait at least 22 months — until at least spring 2010 — for the results of the study.
Brooks and other solar energy insiders said the moratorium, especially coupled with uncertainty in Congress over long-term tax credits for solar development, would discourage solar manufacturers from locating in the Southwest.
“If you delay the process much ... industry might go to another nation,” Brooks said. “If you’re going to make the process more cumbersome in all six states where solar is most viable, there is absolutely no sense in locating manufacturing” in Nevada.
The BLM has received 125 applications — including 23 in Nevada — to use federal land for solar plants.
The oldest of the 125 was filed more than three years ago, according to Katherine Gensler, manager of regulatory and legislative affairs with the Solar Energy Industries Association.
Of course we know that the Federal Government does all things good for US.. So 5 years to decide if a solar farm should go in the desert is a good thing. I can almost guarantee their is a 3 toed lizard lover blocking the progress. Many environmental groups WANT ZERO progress. We see it in every government agency.
YES!! We have (NO) bananas today!!
"Yes! We Have No Bananas" is the title of a novelty song by Frank Silver and Irving Cohn that was a major hit in 1923, and one of the top songs of the 20th century. The song was recorded by Billy Jones, Arthur Hall, Irving Kaufman and others that year, and covered later by Benny Goodman and his Orchestra, Spike Jones & His City Slickers and many more. It also inspired a follow-up, "I've Got the Yes! We Have No Bananas Blues", recorded by Jones and others in 1923.
Were there diesel passenger cars in 1923? Just to stay on topic.
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Good point with qualifications - the rights of the minority need always to be protected. Same point goes for diesel particulates and those with compromised, or even healthy respiratory systems.
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On the flat planet nothing more complex than that statement can be grasped.
Here on the round planet world events have a staggering range of complexity. The real and complex problem of auto dependence, not oil dependence which is just a symptom, is not yet broadly discussed.
Beats the heck out of the alternative. BUS DEPENDENCE. :P
We here on the flat planet want to go as far as we can on a gallon of diesel in our OWN private vehicle. With whomever we choose to share our PRIVATE vehicle with. Those that like to travel on a bus, go for it. Just do not try to push your brand of Communism off on the rest of US. If you read the news you will see that most of the world would love to have the same lifestyle we have built in this country. They are sneaking in by the millions to share in our success as a country. In fact tomorrow we celebrate getting out from under the tyranny that would have taxed US unmercifully then shoved us all in a bus to go make a few shillings more for the King's treasury. Long live the United States of America and the individual, along with our right to the pursuit of the American dream car. And it ain't a Prius.
http://www.vw.com/jettasportwagen/tdi/en/us/
I suppose you haven't even started making home brewed biodiesel yet either. :sick:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/30/AR2008063002280.- html
While it is important to monitor what is burned in auto engines, (this was an issue) the biggest issue the State had was the fact that they were being cheated out of “road tax revenue”, i.e. the money.
While I would love to continue on with this debate, I don’t have the energy and I’m rapidly losing interest. I will also do my best in the future to provide more detailed information so the literalist among us can better understand what I’m saying.
I might camp out if they were giving one away to the first 100 in line. I HATE waiting in any line for anything.
Have a great 4th of JULY. Hope the Sportwagon TDI turns out to be what you are wanting in a new vehicle.
Stay low and keep out of the flood light.
When you find gold the last thing you want to do is yell "Gold". Keep your head down and keep digging.
The Sportwagon is what I'm looking for, it's up to VW and the dealers as to weather I buy one. We will se what kind of games they play.
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That disturbed and distorted idea is essentially what killed the nation, and now denigrates the memories of those people who died for it, people who would no longer recognize what it has become.
TICK TOCK
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You are already there, with more "in line" time coming at you fast. Stamping one's feet has never altered the outcome of anything. Maybe if you click your heels and say "Auntie Em"?
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Now that is truly funny! When you are through there you can listen to my three year old Granddaughter for a counter point
Think I'll go get some air.
No religions for me, I'm a freethinker, but I figured you would be one of the first down at the local VW dealer to test drive a TDI. My closest VW dealer is 200 miles away. Next year when Honda and Subaru introduce their diesel engines I will give them a whirl.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought
Diesel will be just one of many options down the road. When the time comes to get a new vehicle I'll be looking at just about everything available.
I am curious to see how the diesel prices will go in the future. The EIA is still reporting that the refining cost for diesel is twice that of gasoline. That would suggest that diesel is going to continue to be more expensive than RUG by a good 30 to 40 cents.
And then, I keeping reading stories about how diesel demand is going to be high - see below. High demand means high prices.
"Distillates (jet fuel, kerosene, diesel and other gasoil) will remain the main growth drivers of world oil demand,...."
"With 48% of global product demand growth over the next five years concentrated in middle distillate fuels, generating sufficient product to meet demand will continue to be a challenge, according to the report."
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2008/07/study-finds-fue.html#more
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2008/07/iea-despite-som.html#more
http://bioage.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/07/01/mt- omr2.png
Been there done that. Bought solar power for my home in Lake Havasu, AZ about 1983. System quit after 3 or 4 years, dealer gone out of business, I was out $10,000. Now the systems are $50k with a lousy tax incentive. NO THANKS
Latest BUS nightmare.
Wife's aunt gets on Greyhound BUS in Tucson, AZ for trip to Temecula, CA Last Friday. Cousin waiting at the Greyhound bus stop from 6:00 PM till after 9:30 PM for her 87 year old mother. Calls Greyhound and cannot find anyone with a clue about the bus. They go home and wait. 2AM the sheriff pulls into their driveway with lights flashing. Your mother is in the Bus station in San Diego. All she had was her daughter's address. They drive the 75 miles to San Diego and find her sleeping on the floor of the ladies room. She is fine NO THANKS TO MASS TRANSIT. The bus broke down and she was put on a direct to San Diego bus.
You ride the stinking buses, I'll drive my SUV that smells like french fries if the EPA don't try to throw us all in jail for using a waste product to power our vehicles. That is if I can even buy a biodiesel burning SUV here in the land of the Free... :sick:
Utopian waste of our tax dollars is getting old and not doing much good. Cut off all public funding of mass transit. Let the systems support themselves. Why should I pay for you to ride the bus or trolley. You want to ride you pay...The people need to rise up and stop this waste. For those that want a cheap ride get a bicycle.
I read the article on gas hybrid buses in Long Beach. Some one posted here that CA was rid of all their diesel buses. I guess Long Beach did not get the word. As of 2007 they are still using mostly diesel. San Diego has converted to CNG which does not get nearly as good a mileage. So that is an added expense. The article claims that the hybrids are more economical to run. Yet LBT says different in their report. They also do not mention that the hybrid buses are at least twice as expensive. While Long Beach has horrible pollution. Most is due to ocean transport. I guess if the LB taxpayers are willing to pony up for overpriced buses that is their money.
http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy08osti/42226.pdf
The growth in demand for distillates is understandable. IT IS THE SUPERIOR fuel. How far would a 747 get on RUG? The increased demand for diesel will help those driving gas cars. It is as always the trash product from the refinery. The only way to get decent mileage with gas is to add a lot of expensive complexity in the form of a hybrid.
The car would probably work for a person doing a long one hour plus commute even with a price north of $30k. I'll let someone else do the math.
I wonder how well the carbon monocoque will do in our winters. It will also be interesting to see how the windshield wipers do when we get snow and ice.