# A diesel engine for the United States in 2008 that will meet emissions regulations in all 50 states. The engine will be offered in the R-class wagon, and ML- and GL-class SUVs.
# A hybrid version of the ML-class SUV in 2009. The powertrain mates at 4.6-liter V-6 engine with the Two Mode rear-drive hybrid system that DaimlerChrysler has developed in conjunction with BMW and General Motors.
# A hybrid version of the S-class sedan will also be introduced in 2009. This S 400 hybrid will mate a V-6 gasoline engine with an integrated starter-generator. The starter-generator provides stop-start function, and can power the car on only electricity for short distances. It also adds an electric boost to the gasoline engine under heavy loads.
# Mercedes says the hybrid powertrain is rated at 299 hp, can accelerate the large sedan from 0 to 100 kph (62 mph) in 7.3 seconds, yet burns only 7.9 liters of fuel per 100 kilometers (20.9 miles per gallon).
# A fuel cell version of the B-class small wagon will go into limited production in 2010. Mercedes said the car will be powered by a new generation of its fuel cell stack that is smaller, yet puts out more power.
# Versions of the E-class and S-class sedans powered by Bluetec diesel hybrid powertrains are due in 2010. The powertrains will include a four-cylinder diesel engine and seven-speed automatic transmission. The E-class hybrid will burn 5.1 liters (1.3 gallons) of fuel per 100 kilometers, or about 47.6 miles per gallon.
# A version of the C class with the Bluetec diesel hybrid is due after 2010, Mercedes said.
Mercedes is on the right track. They will have a good hold on the clean engine market, however the market is the upper class. I can't imagine being able to get any of those vehicles for under $40k.
Too bad they dumped Chrysler, or maybe we could have expected some of those engines in cheap Dodge or Jeep vehicles.
Yes, the Dodge Sprinter (MB diesel engine) a good example.
Another is Jeep Liberty diesel engine (NON MB). Cummins of course has had a long term relationship with Dodge for the 2500 on up applications. I understand there is a Cummins diesel engine in development for the 1500 series. These three are independent of MB as I understand it. I do not know the new physical specifications of the 1500 motor but if it can fit into a Chrysler 300 series... another killer application. This would especially be true with a 30-35 mpg rating! Cummins has been one of the premier diesel power plant builders in the WORLD.
Given the American perchance for BIGGER vehicles (Toyota Camry/Avalons are considered good taxicab products due to their "oversized "specifications. (from the European perspective) this makes forward coming diesels almost a slam dunk.
quote Bob- from Autonews “We’re hedging our bets for the U.S. market,” said Bob Lutz, GM’s vice chairman of global product development, here at the Frankfurt auto show today.
“We have the gravest of doubts that diesels are the solution. But we’re forging ahead anyway just in case they become easily fathomable or the cost of the hardware drops or with the fuel economy some of the extreme emissions regulations get lowered.”
GM will borrow from its lineup of small diesel engines used in its European brands for U.S. cars, but Lutz would not give a time frame for their introduction.
“We have to have a family of vehicles that are capable and ready to go,” Lutz said. He added that diesel will continue to be widely used in trucks.-end
There is an outside chance he is playing the regulatory crowd over here, especially with the comment on 'extreme emissions' but Lutz has previously made it clear that he doesn't understand how a 30% improvement in mileage is a 'solution'. It's a shame because I would personally love the GMC Sierra with a light-duty diesel.
I'm afraid Bob is going to let GM fall behind in this area.
I would have no problem driving a -30% less fuel efficient say Chevrolet Suburban with Lutz authorizing me only paying for say 35 mpg!?
Perhaps he can sell the carbon and consumption credits!! Opps I would have to win a seat in Congress or State legislature for the real benefits!! :)Shoot even our City Council and Mayor gets 400 a month to conpensate for POV use.
They just haven't forged the right partnerships to afford the clean diesels in their vehicles. The BluTech that MB is utilizing in their diesels comes from the SAME technology the Inians (GreenTech) are putting in their vehicles headed for the US - Bosch and AVL. And the Mahindra's are coming in at a much lower cost than MB.
I just don't believe that GM doesn't have the connections to make it happen. Or Ford for that matter. It's a lack of motivation or vision, and that starts from the top.
... The most significant change to the "long life" Diesel oil is that the additive package has been extensively changed to keep the extra soot caused by EGR in suspension and not clinging to engine innards. The term "long life" has nothing (almost) to do with the life of your engine but rather is a response to fleets that want to keep trucks on the road, generating income, rather than bringing them in for PM service at say 20,000 (more sensible) miles. I am sure you will not run a private vehicle anywhere near that long, even with a soot filter.
GM has been making and selling diesel vehicles in Europe for years. They don't need to partner with anyone. They will have to be compliant withe the Euro regs when they come into force also. Lutz has some deep held conviction that US buyers won't go for it.
Well actually the bottom line is LESS soot loading with ULTRA LOW SULFUR diesel. This is easy to confirm/deny on bobistheoilguy. Just compare the virgin oil analysis of new VW 507.00, i.e. ELF vs Delvac One 5w40. While this might be subtle, the fact that TBN numbers stay high much longer is the real clue to LESS soot loading (in suspension). Indeed there is less soot to load!? (500 ppm vs 15 ppm!!)
I do run 25,000 miles on so called (older) specification oil (Delvac One 5w40, aka Mobil One Truck & Suv 5w40). I have already reported (msg# 4019) NO soot build up over 100,000 miles, with the majority of the miles run on LSD. So I look forward to almost no build up over the NEXT 100,000 miles. I will of course take a look at the 200,000 miles mark.
... The direct relationship of low or no sulphur to soot production is not real clear to me. I think it is more to reduce acidic atmosphere. Things that make less soot (actually incomplete combustion particles): higher combustion temps, better and higher pressure spray patterns, crisp timing, increased combustion pressure, more turbo boost. Unfortunately all of the above, with the exception of the common rail achievable spray, increases NOx. Do you use any extra lube oil filtration ?
Actually that is not so uncommon. Few folks follow diesel emissions and even fewer folks drive passenger diesels. Indeed many folks who drive gassers really do not understand gasser emissions. There are many many web sites that cover either in much more detail than I could ever hope to explain. My take is to try to be an (constantly) informed consumer. So without a real glaze over inducing technical explanations, all those things mentioned create LESS (diesel) NOx, not more.
The truth is more like even to 23% of the passenger vehicle populations being diesel with current regulations and standards the so called differences between gasoline and diesel will be not even measurable (statistically) let alone statistically correlated. This fact is truly the "smoke screen".
Do I use a bypass oil filter system? No, not currently.
... Those procedures I listed reduce unburned HC's; however it is almost diabolical that all but the Modern Marvel, ultra high pressure injection, increase NOx. Why do you think the combustion process is contaminated with EGR? I'll answer my own question. The supposedly inert exhaust gas reduces critical combustion temps to a point that creates less NOx.
Given some of my posts, I am truly not sure where lies your discomfort. Measure the emissions of the burnt fuels, LSD and "ULSD: less NOx with ULSD !! Measure the internal products (soot paste) LSD vs ULSD, again, predictable results, less soot paste with ULSD!
Do I like the EGR system that the TDI incorporates? Well no! So...if one does not, think adjustable!? But I am sure that is NOT what concerns you!?
"Exhaust gas recirculation" From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
..."Since EGR increases the amount of PM that must be dealt with and reduces the exhaust gas temperatures and available oxygen these filters need to function properly to burn off soot, automakers have had to consider injecting fuel and air directly into the exhaust system to keep these filters from plugging up." ...
"Brief exposure to dilute diesel exhaust promotes myocardial ischemia [reduces blood supply to the heart] and inhibits endogenous fibrinolytic capacity [clot busting] in men with stable coronary heart disease."
They said that:
"Our findings point to ischemic and thrombotic mechanisms that may explain in part the observation that exposure to combustion-derived air pollution is associated with adverse cardiovascular events."
Other studies have linked the fine particles in air pollution, and from road traffic fumes in particular, to heart problems.
Diesel engines generate between 10 and 100 times more fine particles than petrol engines and their numbers are rising throughout the world.
Hybrid technology showcased at West Coast conference
By: Steven Macleod SEATTLE, Wash. -- Kenworth and Mack will both have the latest in hybrid technology on display during the 7th annual Hybrid Truck Users Forum (HTUF) Sept. 20 to 21 in Seattle at the Qwest Field Event Center.
Kenworth will showcase four medium-duty diesel-electric hybrid trucks. The featured medium-duty conventional hybrids will include a pickup and delivery truck, utility service truck, municipal aerial truck, and straight chassis.
All four vehicles are equipped with a PACCAR PX-6 engine rated at 240 hp and 560 ft-lb of torque. The primary components of Kenworth’s medium-duty hybrids include an automated transmission with an integral motor/generator unit; frame-mounted, 340-volt battery pack; and a dedicated power management system.
“Hybrid technology looks very promising in the commercial vehicle market,” said Bob Christensen, Kenworth general manager and PACCAR vice-president. “Kenworth recently started deliveries of its medium-duty diesel-electric truck, which is targeted for pickup and delivery operations, municipal fleets and utilities. The hybrid will go into full production in 2008.”
Kenworth’s goal for its new medium duty hybrid is to enhance fuel economy by up to 30% in start-and-stop applications.
Here is what your article says. You can spin it anyway you like. It is meaningless. Gist of the article. Quit having BBQ and if your neighbor is smoking shoot him. Give us a break :sick:
Benzo[a]pyrene is found in gasoline and diesel exhaust, cigarette smoke, grilled foods, coal tar and coal tar pitch, soot and smoke, petroleum asphalt, creosote oil, shale oil, and commercial solvents (NTP 11th ROC). Exposure occurs primarily through the smoking of tobacco, inhalation of polluted air, and ingestion of charred foods.
This month Im going to smoke 20 humpies (salmon). 7 to 9 hours smoking for each batch, 7 batches total. Guess Im going to totally destroy lower Puget Sound, but darn it's good eating.
Do the humpies come into the Puget Sound? They should be pretty solid nice meat if you catch them in salt water. My favorites are reds out of Prince William Sound. Smoked salmon and a margarita. Oh, I forgot the Mexicans cut down the Agave to grow corn for ethanol. If the environmentalists get their way we will all be eating a corn gruel byproduct. There won't be any fish because we will be dumping so much fertilizer into the waterways. But we cut back 2 grams per year on NoX, whoopie....
... Some of these studies are not using the latest engines with particulate traps. Not to mention that the CRD systems produce much less soot to begin with. Also there is very little end result comparison between gasoline and Diesel.
1st news quote- Nissan Motor Co is preparing a diesel-powered version of its Titan full-sized pickup truck by 2009 for the United States, with engines built by local truck and engine maker Navistar International Corp, industrial daily Nikkan Kogyo Shimbun reported on Friday.
Japan's third-biggest automaker, held 44 per cent by Renault SA, offers no diesel vehicle now in the United States, where the fuel-efficient powertrain is used mostly on commercial vehicles including large pickup trucks. -end
2nd news quote- the Japanese press is now reporting that Nissan is looking at building the new V-6 diesel at its Dechard, Tenessee plant. Nissan though, has dismissed these reports as “total speculation.”
& Looking further ahead, the paper also says that Nissan will drop a clean 2.0-liter four-cylinder diesel into the Altima and assorted SUVs. But again that’s “to be confirmed.” -end
Yes, humpies run every odd year (none on even years) and this year is a huge run, 2.6 million expected to return. The run is almost over and silvers are next.
Please forgive us. We have been so over-run by kooks and freaks that have not got a clue as to what is environmentally sound. They are solely responsible for many homes lost to forest fires. The most recent in Lake Tahoe where they somehow managed to keep people from clearing brush that was close to their homes. CARB is a culmination of bad legislation started many years ago. They would like to take credit for cleaning CA air. When in fact they have done little or nothing. The fact that the EPA got the lead out of gasoline was the biggest factor in cleaning the air. I have just moved further from San Diego metropolis and can look down from my 2000 ft mountain top at the brown haze. They cannot blame it on diesel cars as they can be counted on one hand. They do allow any kind of diesel truck or black smoke blowing gas truck cross into San Diego County. The Mexican truckers fill their tanks with 80 cents a gallon high sulfur diesel and can now go anywhere in the USA spewing nasty soot. What is CARB doing about it? NOTHING, business as usual.
27.9778 (28) mpg US is the rating for highway mpg for the Jeep Wrangler with diesel after conversion from imperial to US. The Wrangler is rated 33.6 mpg imperial for highway (Extra Urban).
Wrangler V6 auto for US is rated at 15 mpg city, 19 mpg highway and 17 mpg combined.
An "S" size Mercedes with that kind of mileage would put Lexus in the hot seat to compete with their luxo hybrid barges. It is about the same size as the top-of-the-line Mercedes-Benz S-Class sedan, but it is powered by just a 1.8-liter 4-cylinder engine — about half the size of the current S-Class base motor. Called the DiesOtto, this 238-horsepower engine uses turbocharging, direct fuel injection and extremely precise control of the combustion process to achieve V-6 levels of power with 4-cylinder economy — about 44 miles per gallon.
The German manufacturers emphasized that the diesel models they were introducing here would be clean enough to be legal in all 50 states by 2008.
... The brake regeneration would be great for city cabs and police.The hybrid, engine off mode, would help plenty. Modern Diesel would be excellent everywhere else.
If you read the article it also states: "They found that inhaling diesel fumes while exercising changes the electrical behaviour of the heart, implying that air pollution reduces the amount of oxygen reaching the heart during exercise." and they were exercising for an hour inside a chamber.
I don't know about you but if I had a diesel or was near one....I surely would not be in a confined room with it doing cardiovascular exercises.
There are always choices. I cannot understand anyone wanting to live in NYC. Yet many folks cannot understand living in the country. We all make choices that appeal to our sense of well being. I would say any city that has a pollution problem should do as London. Make it costly to drive in the city. Charge $20 per day to exit the Interstate going into the cities. I drove all the way from San Diego to Boerne, TX on the outskirts of San Antonia without entering one stinking city. That is the way I like it. I have driven an extra couple hundred miles to avoid big cities like Los Angeles. You want to live in a city you have to accept the crime and pollution. Don't try to blame it on diesel cars. They are a rarity in your part of the World. Most of the pollution you get comes from the ships in the harbors. Modern diesel cars burning ULSD are no worse than 99% of the gas burning cars. And they put out a lot less GHG per mile.
The "myth of choice" is one that persists as part of a complex human denial mechanism. No one experiencing real life, as the vast majority do, believes past age 20 that the myth has significance. The city entry fees as well as blanket driving restrictions are a part of what will be increasingly faced - they in no way represent a choice.
Imagining that living in the country is anything more than a fantasy, or that six billion people migrating to the country is anything less than a nightmare, is a part of the denial mechanism that underlies the myth of the "automobile".
None of that denial or fantasy removes the additional health hazards experienced by real people, men, women, and children, posed by increased diesel use.
Since you have been following and contributing to this thread for a while now, your opinion STILL flies in the face of the realities of the situation/s. We all, I am sure, respect the fact that you are entitled to your opinion/s, but it is not based on relative scientific, objective or realistic factors; nor intergration of counterpoints made here.
Indeed you are advocating folks living in the MOST polluted situations (cities). Most passenger vehicle transportation in cities is still and has been; upwards of 97% GASSER and NOT diesel. Indeed if you are saying that the less than 3% of the diesel passenger vehicle fleet is the cause of and/or is causing most of the problems you are saying; that is an extreme minority view. Indeed it can be classified as extreme bias.
I am posting from Vancouver, BC, where the price of #2 diesel is app 4 dollars US per gal (128 oz. ) Of course it is sold by imperial gal (.8326 conversion). Or liter (3.785). The Loonie is almost at par (to US dollar) as I write. I think I will fuel in WA or OR on the return trip.
The "myth of choice" is one that persists as part of a complex human denial mechanism
Just so that I understand, you do not believe that you can move out of the 'city' to another place? Do you mean that you CHOOSE not to move away from your job, family, friends etc to a less congested/polluted place, thereby running the risk of lower income, less social life?
If we are going to continue this discussion, I think we need to focus it. The debate is about the effect of increasing the light diesel fleet. However, the report is about the effects of particulates and other pollutants traditionally associated with diesel. Therefore, what is important is whether putting more modern diesel vehicles (cars and SUVs for the most part) on the road will create a higher health hazard than a similar number of gassers. I don't believe that a modern diesel burning USLD and/or biodiesel emits a high enough amount of particulates or other pollutants for the report to apply to it.
2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])
There is lot air polution cause by cars waiting in line at McDonald's to cause a great deal of polution, and then there are the diesel pickup drivers that like to leave theirs running at the pumps.
All I want is a diesel car/van like large enough to carry four adults and one tha gets good MPG. The hybrid might be ok, but I haven't forgot who bombed us on a Sunday morning.
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Among its plans:
# A diesel engine for the United States in 2008 that will meet emissions regulations in all 50 states. The engine will be offered in the R-class wagon, and ML- and GL-class SUVs.
# A hybrid version of the ML-class SUV in 2009. The powertrain mates at 4.6-liter V-6 engine with the Two Mode rear-drive hybrid system that DaimlerChrysler has developed in conjunction with BMW and General Motors.
# A hybrid version of the S-class sedan will also be introduced in 2009. This S 400 hybrid will mate a V-6 gasoline engine with an integrated starter-generator. The starter-generator provides stop-start function, and can power the car on only electricity for short distances. It also adds an electric boost to the gasoline engine under heavy loads.
# Mercedes says the hybrid powertrain is rated at 299 hp, can accelerate the large sedan from 0 to 100 kph (62 mph) in 7.3 seconds, yet burns only 7.9 liters of fuel per 100 kilometers (20.9 miles per gallon).
# A fuel cell version of the B-class small wagon will go into limited production in 2010. Mercedes said the car will be powered by a new generation of its fuel cell stack that is smaller, yet puts out more power.
# Versions of the E-class and S-class sedans powered by Bluetec diesel hybrid powertrains are due in 2010. The powertrains will include a four-cylinder diesel engine and seven-speed automatic transmission. The E-class hybrid will burn 5.1 liters (1.3 gallons) of fuel per 100 kilometers, or about 47.6 miles per gallon.
# A version of the C class with the Bluetec diesel hybrid is due after 2010, Mercedes said.
Too bad they dumped Chrysler, or maybe we could have expected some of those engines in cheap Dodge or Jeep vehicles.
Another is Jeep Liberty diesel engine (NON MB). Cummins of course has had a long term relationship with Dodge for the 2500 on up applications. I understand there is a Cummins diesel engine in development for the 1500 series. These three are independent of MB as I understand it. I do not know the new physical specifications of the 1500 motor but if it can fit into a Chrysler 300 series... another killer application. This would especially be true with a 30-35 mpg rating! Cummins has been one of the premier diesel power plant builders in the WORLD.
Given the American perchance for BIGGER vehicles (Toyota Camry/Avalons are considered good taxicab products due to their "oversized "specifications. (from the European perspective) this makes forward coming diesels almost a slam dunk.
“We’re hedging our bets for the U.S. market,” said Bob Lutz, GM’s vice chairman of global product development, here at the Frankfurt auto show today.
“We have the gravest of doubts that diesels are the solution. But we’re forging ahead anyway just in case they become easily fathomable or the cost of the hardware drops or with the fuel economy some of the extreme emissions regulations get lowered.”
GM will borrow from its lineup of small diesel engines used in its European brands for U.S. cars, but Lutz would not give a time frame for their introduction.
“We have to have a family of vehicles that are capable and ready to go,” Lutz said. He added that diesel will continue to be widely used in trucks.-end
I'm afraid Bob is going to let GM fall behind in this area.
Perhaps he can sell the carbon and consumption credits!! Opps I would have to win a seat in Congress or State legislature for the real benefits!! :)Shoot even our City Council and Mayor gets 400 a month to conpensate for POV use.
I just don't believe that GM doesn't have the connections to make it happen. Or Ford for that matter. It's a lack of motivation or vision, and that starts from the top.
Lutz has some deep held conviction that US buyers won't go for it.
I do run 25,000 miles on so called (older) specification oil (Delvac One 5w40, aka Mobil One Truck & Suv 5w40). I have already reported (msg# 4019) NO soot build up over 100,000 miles, with the majority of the miles run on LSD. So I look forward to almost no build up over the NEXT 100,000 miles. I will of course take a look at the 200,000 miles mark.
"Radio Frequencies Help Burn Salt Water"
By David Templeton, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Tue, 11 Sep 2007, 11:41AM
http://green.yahoo.com/index.php?q=node/1570
More on topic, bugs on bio fuel!
"Bug-Based Bio Fuel"
By John Barrie
Fri, 13 Jul 2007, 03:17PM
http://green.yahoo.com/index.php?q=node/438
The truth is more like even to 23% of the passenger vehicle populations being diesel with current regulations and standards the so called differences between gasoline and diesel will be not even measurable (statistically) let alone statistically correlated. This fact is truly the "smoke screen".
Do I use a bypass oil filter system? No, not currently.
Do I like the EGR system that the TDI incorporates? Well no! So...if one does not, think adjustable!? But I am sure that is NOT what concerns you!?
"Exhaust gas recirculation"
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhaust_gas_recirculation
..."Since EGR increases the amount of PM that must be dealt with and reduces the exhaust gas temperatures and available oxygen these filters need to function properly to burn off soot, automakers have had to consider injecting fuel and air directly into the exhaust system to keep these filters from plugging up." ...
Diesel exhaust not good for the ticker
The researchers concluded that:
"Brief exposure to dilute diesel exhaust promotes myocardial ischemia [reduces blood supply to the heart] and inhibits endogenous fibrinolytic capacity [clot busting] in men with stable coronary heart disease."
They said that:
"Our findings point to ischemic and thrombotic mechanisms that may explain in part the observation that exposure to combustion-derived air pollution is associated with adverse cardiovascular events."
Other studies have linked the fine particles in air pollution, and from road traffic fumes in particular, to heart problems.
Diesel engines generate between 10 and 100 times more fine particles than petrol engines and their numbers are rising throughout the world.
Hybrid technology showcased at West Coast conference
By: Steven Macleod
SEATTLE, Wash. -- Kenworth and Mack will both have the latest in hybrid technology on display during the 7th annual Hybrid Truck Users Forum (HTUF) Sept. 20 to 21 in Seattle at the Qwest Field Event Center.
Kenworth will showcase four medium-duty diesel-electric hybrid trucks. The featured medium-duty conventional hybrids will include a pickup and delivery truck, utility service truck, municipal aerial truck, and straight chassis.
All four vehicles are equipped with a PACCAR PX-6 engine rated at 240 hp and 560 ft-lb of torque. The primary components of Kenworth’s medium-duty hybrids include an automated transmission with an integral motor/generator unit; frame-mounted, 340-volt battery pack; and a dedicated power management system.
“Hybrid technology looks very promising in the commercial vehicle market,” said Bob Christensen, Kenworth general manager and PACCAR vice-president. “Kenworth recently started deliveries of its medium-duty diesel-electric truck, which is targeted for pickup and delivery operations, municipal fleets and utilities. The hybrid will go into full production in 2008.”
Kenworth’s goal for its new medium duty hybrid is to enhance fuel economy by up to 30% in start-and-stop applications.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
http://sciencereview.silentspring.org/mamm_detail.cfm?cid=50-32-8
Benzo[a]pyrene is found in gasoline and diesel exhaust, cigarette smoke, grilled foods, coal tar and coal tar pitch, soot and smoke, petroleum asphalt, creosote oil, shale oil, and commercial solvents (NTP 11th ROC). Exposure occurs primarily through the smoking of tobacco, inhalation of polluted air, and ingestion of charred foods.
Nissan Motor Co is preparing a diesel-powered version of its Titan full-sized pickup truck by 2009 for the United States, with engines built by local truck and engine maker Navistar International Corp, industrial daily Nikkan Kogyo Shimbun reported on Friday.
Japan's third-biggest automaker, held 44 per cent by Renault SA, offers no diesel vehicle now in the United States, where the fuel-efficient powertrain is used mostly on commercial vehicles including large pickup trucks.
-end
2nd news quote-
the Japanese press is now reporting that Nissan is looking at building the new V-6 diesel at its Dechard, Tenessee plant. Nissan though, has dismissed these reports as “total speculation.”
&
Looking further ahead, the paper also says that Nissan will drop a clean 2.0-liter four-cylinder diesel into the Altima and assorted SUVs. But again that’s “to be confirmed.”
-end
We will see....
http://www.thefishingoddess.com/ALL%20ABOUT%20HUMPIES.htm
It is denied to us due to emissions laws that do not match up to anyone else in the world. Thank you CA!
4x4 & MPV Driver magazine in England reports the combined city/highway mpg for the Wrangler Unlimited CRD is an astonishing 28.2 mpg!
Caution - The link below is to a 9 page PDF-
The Jeep Wrangler Unlimited 2.8 CRD Sahara is the resounding winner in this test. We thought is would be a much closer contest between this pair of iconic off-roaders. But it's clear that Jeep have done far more to make their new 4x4 appeal to a broader ranger of buyers, while retaining its core strengths of off-road ability and functional good looks.
Please forgive us. We have been so over-run by kooks and freaks that have not got a clue as to what is environmentally sound. They are solely responsible for many homes lost to forest fires. The most recent in Lake Tahoe where they somehow managed to keep people from clearing brush that was close to their homes. CARB is a culmination of bad legislation started many years ago. They would like to take credit for cleaning CA air. When in fact they have done little or nothing. The fact that the EPA got the lead out of gasoline was the biggest factor in cleaning the air. I have just moved further from San Diego metropolis and can look down from my 2000 ft mountain top at the brown haze. They cannot blame it on diesel cars as they can be counted on one hand. They do allow any kind of diesel truck or black smoke blowing gas truck cross into San Diego County. The Mexican truckers fill their tanks with 80 cents a gallon high sulfur diesel and can now go anywhere in the USA spewing nasty soot. What is CARB doing about it? NOTHING, business as usual.
Conversions here: http://www.onlineconversion.com/fuel_consumption.htm
Wrangler V6 auto for US is rated at 15 mpg city, 19 mpg highway and 17 mpg combined.
A 38% increase in mpg is stellar IMO.
Tick tock!
ENVIRONMENTAL ANOMIE
PS
I blew my TV along with John Prine, long time ago. Nothing worth the electricity comes through the tube or LCD.
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Diesel engines that are better for the environment a key focus of the Frankfurt motor show.
It is about the same size as the top-of-the-line Mercedes-Benz S-Class sedan, but it is powered by just a 1.8-liter 4-cylinder engine — about half the size of the current S-Class base motor. Called the DiesOtto, this 238-horsepower engine uses turbocharging, direct fuel injection and extremely precise control of the combustion process to achieve V-6 levels of power with 4-cylinder economy — about 44 miles per gallon.
The German manufacturers emphasized that the diesel models they were introducing here would be clean enough to be legal in all 50 states by 2008.
I'm ready for that. Saving my pennies.
Police vehicles considered for diesel engines
Seems like a good idea to me. And while this is a diesel topic, it seems to me that police vehicles would be an ideal application for hybrids.
I don't know about you but if I had a diesel or was near one....I surely would not be in a confined room with it doing cardiovascular exercises.
Adding more diesel to the transportation mix means more people would be affected by its health hazards.
Its effect on breast cancer rates is also a strong argument against increasing the use of diesel.
There are always choices. I cannot understand anyone wanting to live in NYC. Yet many folks cannot understand living in the country. We all make choices that appeal to our sense of well being. I would say any city that has a pollution problem should do as London. Make it costly to drive in the city. Charge $20 per day to exit the Interstate going into the cities. I drove all the way from San Diego to Boerne, TX on the outskirts of San Antonia without entering one stinking city. That is the way I like it. I have driven an extra couple hundred miles to avoid big cities like Los Angeles. You want to live in a city you have to accept the crime and pollution. Don't try to blame it on diesel cars. They are a rarity in your part of the World. Most of the pollution you get comes from the ships in the harbors. Modern diesel cars burning ULSD are no worse than 99% of the gas burning cars. And they put out a lot less GHG per mile.
Hope you enjoyed Boerne!
I would guarantee that Boerne has a far higher % of diesel drivers to non-diesel drivers with all 2500's, F-2/350's etc and yet...no pollution.
Imagining that living in the country is anything more than a fantasy, or that six billion people migrating to the country is anything less than a nightmare, is a part of the denial mechanism that underlies the myth of the "automobile".
None of that denial or fantasy removes the additional health hazards experienced by real people, men, women, and children, posed by increased diesel use.
Tick tock
Indeed you are advocating folks living in the MOST polluted situations (cities). Most passenger vehicle transportation in cities is still and has been; upwards of 97% GASSER and NOT diesel. Indeed if you are saying that the less than 3% of the diesel passenger vehicle fleet is the cause of and/or is causing most of the problems you are saying; that is an extreme minority view. Indeed it can be classified as extreme bias.
Just so that I understand, you do not believe that you can move out of the 'city' to another place?
Do you mean that you CHOOSE not to move away from your job, family, friends etc to a less congested/polluted place, thereby running the risk of lower income, less social life?
2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])
There is lot air polution cause by cars waiting in line at McDonald's to cause a great deal of polution, and then there are the diesel pickup drivers that like to leave theirs running at the pumps.
All I want is a diesel car/van like large enough to carry four adults and one tha gets good MPG. The hybrid might be ok, but I haven't forgot who bombed us on a Sunday morning.