Mystery car pix

andys120

They say those Lines were the biggest passenger cars ever made. I guess they don't count stretch Limos.

texases

Not much to look at for all that $$ and ##...

lostwrench1

As to the Cadillac, the combination of the grille, the hood badge, the parking lights, and the color Maize, made me go for its being a 1962 De Ville. However, I now know that the '62 Fleetwood also used the color Maize.

As to the Chrysler, the A pillar, the location of the side script, and the "side white" sloping downward at its top front end, indicate 1957 Chrysler Saratoga.

Omarman was correct as to the tail lights of the Lincoln Continental.

omarman

Michaell

omarman said:

The late, unlamented Ford EXP.

kyfdx

That looks like a Mustang, to me

texases

Yeah, they restyled it after the original frog-eyed version flopped. 

omarman

That was quick. I think 1985 was last model year for the frog-eye EXP.

fintail

That's right, 1986 was the first year of the flush front end on the EXP. 1986 was a facelift or new model year for most Fords - Taurus and Aerostar were new, Tempo got a significant facelift, Escort had a facelift similar to EXP (also called 1985.5). Full sized trucks would have a big facelift for MY 1987, with Ranger/Bronco II not getting flush lights until 1989.

Here's one you see even less (yes, those are stock wheels, not from a 928):

andys120

ab348

Ha! I remember in the early/mid-'80s seeing the EXP/LN7 surprisingly often around town here. I was always surprised because I found the front end really unattractive, and the bubble back window of the LN7 seemed just goofy to me, but people seemed to buy them. They always looked awkward and unappealing to me. They seemed to disappear very quickly, can't remember the last time I saw one.

stickguy

A trabant?

andys120

stickguy said:

A trabant?

Yup, the Sachsenring Trabant 601 was made in East Germany for over 25 years. It sold mainly in Iron Curtain countries.

fintail

When I was in high school in the early/mid 90s, the EXP still wasn't an uncommon sight in the parking lot. But by the late 90s, they all vanished in a short period, the same time that 70s Japanese cars suddenly vanished around here.

andys120

omarman

Escort had a facelift similar to EXP (also called 1985.5).

All 3 cars sold new in 1970 U.S. market, one as a 1970 1/2, all based on the same car line and sold under different model names. 2 of the model names were dropped in the U.S. market by 1971.
Can you tell which is which?

ab348

One is a Falcon, next is a Fairlane, and the last is a Torino, which was the only model name left standing.

tmart

They all look like Torinos to me!

omarman

ab348 said:

One is a Falcon, next is a Fairlane, and the last is a Torino, which was the only model name left standing.

Winner! The top one is the 1970 1/2 Falcon, the 1970 Fairlane 500 has the trim on the front fenders, and the bottom pic is the 1970 Torino which was the only model of the 3 to carry on in the U.S. market. The '71 Torino had a split grill instead of the round emblem on the '70.

ab348

I remember seeing a fair number of 1970 1/2 Falcons on the roads here when they were new. Proving again how much people here liked cheap cars, at least back then. 

Michaell

andys120 said:

That's an Alpine. Can't remember the model name, though.

andys120

Yes that's the current model Alpine A110, made by the Alpine subsidiary of Renault. Like it's rival the 911, the Alpine has used the same name since the 1960s.

andys120

stickguy

looks like a TVR to me. Not that I can ever remember model names. Taisman?

andys120

stickguy said:

looks like a TVR to me. Not that I can ever remember model names. Taisman?

TVRs of that era were all similar. That's a 1971 TVR 2500, those had the Triumph 2.5l six under the hood. It's the same motor that powered the TR-250/5 and the TR-6.

I drove my cousin's once and it was a beautifully balanced, great handling car and pretty fast since it was much lighter than the TRs.

andys120

You probably know make/model but can you tell one year from another?

kyfdx

The side scoop is the tell?

iluvmysephia1

The white Mustang fastback is a 1964 1/2. The very first run of Stang's.

iluvmysephia1

The green one has an unidentified cowling of sorts on the side and is much harder to identify. I'll guess and say it's a '66.

omarman

The Hertz at the top has to be a rare '66 model in green. The one with USA racing colors is a '65.

Mr_Shiftright

That's definitely a '65, and it's a cool 1/2 million bucks worth of Mustang. Only 521 made.

andys120

Yes, it's actually fairly easy tp tell a '65 from a '66 as long as you can seen the sides. The '65 GT-350 has no brake scoop or small window behind the door whereas the '66 has both those things.

There's no such thing as a 64 1/2 'Stang. All that were produced and sold in the 1964 calendar year were titled as 1965 cars

andys120

berri

I've heard that some refer to the 64 1/2 Mustang to denote it has the original 26-? (forget the exact size) V8 instead of the 289 that was put in a bit later. Don't know the validity, but do know they upsized the V8.

stickguy

didn't the initial batch also have a generator instead of an alternator?

Mr_Shiftright

Yep, the early cars had a generator and a 260 V-8--but they are still 1965 cars.

iluvmysephia1

Nope. The white fastback is a 1964 1/2 Mustang. It's got no slant angle metal piece. The solid metal piece at a slant angle with no horizontal slats represents 1965 Mustang's. The metal slant angle pieces that have horizontal slats are from 1966 Mustang's.

https://classicmustang.com/1964-mustang-information/

Mr_Shiftright

Well better tell the dealer who is selling it. He thinks it's a '65.

http://www.legendarymotorcar.com/inventory/1965-ford-mustang-shelby-gt350-1260.aspx

lostwrench1

The GT 350 Blue Dot tires! Forgot about them.
All the '65s came with them. Only the 1st 200 of the '66s came with them. I would guess leftovers.

stickguy

Legendary. That's Peter Klug's place.

iluv, every 1st year Mustang was officially (and titled) as a 1965. the 64.5 shorthand was just something the collector market came up with to distinguish the early cars, before the running changes were implemented.

iluvmysephia1

Nope. They're 1964 1/2 Stang's.

texases

I see the 64.5 as just shorthand for 'early edition, generator and smaller engines'. Nothing official about it.

iluvmysephia1

Hey, the ones with no slant angle pieces have always been 1964 1/2 Ford Mustang's. Why did Ford send a whole slew of Mustang's down the line if they didn't intend on them being a distinct model year?

Of course: they are 64 1/2 Mustang's.

texases

Well, they're not a 'distinct model year' as far as all paperwork is concerned.

omarman

iluvmysephia1 said:

Nope. The white fastback is a 1964 1/2 Mustang. It's got no slant angle metal piece. The solid metal piece at a slant angle with no horizontal slats represents 1965 Mustang's. The metal slant angle pieces that have horizontal slats are from 1966 Mustang's.

https://classicmustang.com/1964-mustang-information/

I clicked on your link and found a set of 1965 Mustang ads under the heading of, "1964 1/2 Mustang Ads" posted at the bottom of the page. Here's the first pic I clicked on:

The quarter panel trim is easily seen on the above1965 Mustang. Again, this ad was listed under the heading of "1964 1/2 Mustang Ads." And in the text of the advertisement, an offer is made to sell scale models of the new Mustang for $1 with the disclaimer that the offer ends July 31, 1964.

stickguy

they were still all sold and titled as 1965's. the 64.5 was coined later. could just as easily call them early and late 65s, or pre/post updates.

texases

Love that ad - Wimbledon White, just like my "64.5"...no rear quarter trim, 170 CID, generator.

andys120

iluvmysephia1 said:

Nope. The white fastback is a 1964 1/2 Mustang. It's got no slant angle metal piece. The solid metal piece at a slant angle with no horizontal slats represents 1965 Mustang's. The metal slant angle pieces that have horizontal slats are from 1966 Mustang's.

https://classicmustang.com/1964-mustang-information/

I don't where this"slant angle metal piece" is on the car. Do you mean the decorative trim over the hockey stick shaped curve on the side? IIRC that piece didn't appear on all versions of the Mustang and was never on a GT-350.

andys120

berri said:

I've heard that some refer to the 64 1/2 Mustang to denote it has the original 26-? (forget the exact size) V8 instead of the 289 that was put in a bit later. Don't know the validity, but do know they upsized the V8.

The V8 in the early Mustangs was the 260CID version of the V8 originally designed to power the Ford Fairlane. The first examples in the Fairlane were 221CID. The 260 was also the first engine used in the Falcon Sprint and the Shelby Cobra. 260 Cobras had no air vents in the side, those were added with the 289 version but there may have been some early 289 cars that didn't get the side vent.

stickguy

apparently, based on one of the articles linked above, both V8s were available in "64.5". The coupe got the 260, convertible the 289.