Mystery car pix

Mr_Shiftright

stickguy said:

Man studebakers really stood out as unique back then.

Yes---they were known back then as the "Which Way Is It Going Car".

tmart

I’ll take the 49-50 Ford.

fintail

I think the 41 had more vertical tail lights, while the later ones had a more horizontal style. At least they look horizontal to me, not the highest resolution in a vintage pic.

lostwrench1 said:

I'll go with that Ford's being a 1941.

lostwrench1

fintail said:

I think the 41 had more vertical tail lights, while the later ones had a more horizontal style. At least they look horizontal to me, not the highest resolution in a vintage pic.

lostwrench1 said:

I'll go with that Ford's being a 1941.

Hmmm, yes, you are correct.
I'll go with your 1942.

andys120

There's lots of cars that could be either 1952 or 53MY, can anyone tell if any are '53s which would make them newest?.

andys120

kyfdx

andys120 said:

Coupes didn't get any prettier, as we moved into the '70s.

omarman

I don't know the exact year but that's an 80's Bitter SC. There was a 4-door variant that looked pretty nice.

andys120

omarman said:

I don't know the exact year but that's an 80's Bitter SC. There was a 4-door variant that looked pretty nice.

Yup, 1984MY. Only 5 of the sedans were made, i couldn't find a photo of one.

Mr_Shiftright

ab348

Not really a mystery car, but an interesting period shot of it sitting brand new in a showroom.

ab348

I have never seen one of these with these wheel covers, so that sort of makes it a mystery car. Another new-car shot:

tmart

ab348 said:

Not really a mystery car, but an interesting period shot of it sitting brand new in a showroom.

56 Continental Mark II

tjc78

What a great car 

Mr_Shiftright

Every one of them sold at a loss, I've read. Oddly enough, not all that much in demand today, but one of Pebble Beach quality can fetch a nice price. Most of the ones I come across are ratty. I think that's because they are so difficult to restore, and so expensive. These are complex cars.

fintail

I'll guess the Kent Chevrolet car is a 66 Caprice. I have never seen one with that wheel trim, either. Are these pics from old high school yearbooks?

lostwrench1

No Lincoln Continentals the previous 7 years!

ab348

fintail said:

I'll guess the Kent Chevrolet car is a 66 Caprice. I have never seen one with that wheel trim, either. Are these pics from old high school yearbooks?

Yep. Fascinating site called “Annualmobiles”.

bhill2

tmart said:

ab348 said:

Not really a mystery car, but an interesting period shot of it sitting brand new in a showroom.

56 Continental Mark II

The location somewhat surprises me. I lived near there for about 10 years (although that was not one of the years) and it didn't strike me as prime territory for Continental sales.

lostwrench1

fintail said:

I'll guess the Kent Chevrolet car is a 66 Caprice. I have never seen one with that wheel trim, either. Are these pics from old high school yearbooks?

There were two optional wheel covers for the '66 Caprice. The mag style as shown and the simulated wire wheel covers.

andys120

"Mag" style wheels were just catching on in the mid 60s but it was an aftermarket thing, almost no cars were delivered on them (Fuchs alloys had just become an option on the Porsche 911).

Those optional wheel covers on a big Chevy might have been an early attempt by Chevrolet
Division to offer a "trendy" look.

andys120

Michaell

andys120 said:

Jensen Interceptor.

It's got a Hemi!

imidazol97

tmart said:

ab348 said:

Not really a mystery car, but an interesting period shot of it sitting brand new in a showroom.

56 Continental Mark II

I saw one in cream on a car hauler a few months back. I enjoy being on I75 and I70 because I often see car haulers with unique, interesting vehicles on the back. Too often they're going the opposite direction so my time to analyze is fleetingly short.

ab348

andys120 said:

"Mag" style wheels were just catching on in the mid 60s but it was an aftermarket thing, almost no cars were delivered on them (Fuchs alloys had just become an option on the Porsche 911).

Those optional wheel covers on a big Chevy might have been an early attempt by Chevrolet
Division to offer a "trendy" look.

Called "simulated magnesium wheel covers".

imidazol97

bhill2 said:

1956 Mercury Customer Phaeton, 4-door hardtop
1955 Buick

andys120

Michaell said:

andys120 said:

Jensen Interceptor.

It's got a Hemi!

Yep,MY 1973 as driven by Mark Wahlberg's character in All The Money. In the background a Morris Minor pickup (no doubt the Brits have their own word for those.

Mr_Shiftright

Brits use the same term --pickup truck. Aussies might call them "utes" but that term is falling out of favor, since it relates to more car-based pickups than actual "trucks".

magnette

I think it was only ever the Morris Minor (or Morris 1000) pick up, although to satisfy Austin dealers they did make the van and pick up versions with a crinkly grille and an Austin badge for areas where there wasn't a Morris dealer. We never used the term utes in the UK - the long pickups out in Australia based on Ford Zephyrs, Austin Hampshires etc and the like were pretty much export only I think.

Some BMC and subsequently British Leyland dealers had different ranges as if they were originally signed up for Morris at the time of the merger of Austin with Morris in about 1952 to form BMC then the Morris people might have a range of MG, Wolseley and Riley as well while Austin just had those until the AustinHealey came along - and the Vanden Plas Princess which I believe came from the Austin side too. There were commercial vehicles in both ranges and as they began to be integrated the vans and light trucks would be available as an Austin or Morris.

When the Mini came along it was badged as an Austin Seven or a Morris Mini Minor (including the vans which were either Austin or Morris Minivan like the Mini Moke (saw one of those today) but there were of course Austin Cambridges and eventually Morris Oxfords where competing ranges were replaced with just badge engineering by the time the Farina models came along.

When the 1100 range was launched it was just a Morris and an MG 1100 at first, although Wolseley came along after that, but the Vanden Plas 1100 was in the Austin dealers range as well - thats probably why the Riley version wasn't developed until the late 60s.

The 1800 range was an Austin first in 1964 and the Morris about a year later although the Wolseley was fairly soon after that so not so bad for Morris dealers.

It all happened again later when BMC merged with Leyland as they had the Rover and Standard /Triumph ranges as well as a much wider range of commercials, so I suppose some towns had up to three dealers all with different bits of the BL empire to sell which must have been even less efficient. The effect must have helped the ones who got the raw deal to turn to foreign cars by then, although BL managed to encourage that pretty well for themselves...

magnette

Actually I think the Morris Minor / 1000 and presumably the Austin were sold as the Morris or Austin 5 or 6 cwt (cwt = hundred weight which was 112 pounds (eight stone in our archaic measures).

The biggest customer for the Minor van in all its guises - although I think only ever as a Morris - was our Post Office which including the GPO telephone company had a fleet of about 20,000 although not all at once. They knew that model as the Minor 60 cubic foot van for postal services and the Minor Utility van for the telephone engineers.



The above is an Austin badged version ....

magnette

It went the other way with the ex Austin Cambridge range of vans which were sold generally as the Austin half ton based on the mid 50s Cambridge where the van carried on for the whole of the sixties as an Austin (including pick ups) but it wasn't until the end of the 60s that they sold it as a Morris as well.

First the Austin



Now the Morris

andys120

kyfdx

andys120 said:

Ferrari FF?

fintail

Now called the GTC4 Lusso, I think. Part of the starter pack for the devilspawn of the higher end of newly arrived sketchy money in my area.

andys120

kyfdx said:

andys120 said:

Ferrari FF?

fintail said:

Now called the GTC4 Lusso, I think. Part of the starter pack for the devilspawn of the higher end of newly arrived sketchy money in my area.

The Ferrari GTC/4 Lusso is a further development of the FF and supposedly more sophisticated. IMO it looks terrific but then I've long been a fan of the
Shooting Brake.

Mr_Shiftright

Reminds me a little of this one. Anyone?

fintail

I believe that's a Harrington LeMans, based on a Sunbeam. I remember reading about them in Classic and Sportscar or Thoroughbred and Classic Cars when I was a kid.

texases

Gotta be a 2+2, right?

Mr_Shiftright

Well maybe 2+ 1.5. Only a few hundred made, and probably only 50 left in the world. The body modifications were made of (oh, this is so British) wood + fiberglass, mated to the lower steel body. I've seen a few of these, and the work was actually well done.

Mr_Shiftright

A bit tight in there:

Michaell

Mr_Shiftright said:

A bit tight in there:

No different than a current Camaro, I suspect.

magnette

fintail said:

I believe that's a Harrington LeMans, based on a Sunbeam. I remember reading about them in Classic and Sportscar or Thoroughbred and Classic Cars when I was a kid.

The lorry / truck in the background is an Albion....

andys120

boomchek

Looks like a Ferrari Dino 308, the 2nd gen Dino basically. I'd say early 70s?

Mr_Shiftright

That's a 308 GT4 2+2, so could be 1974-1979, They made a fair number of them, and it is one of the least expensive Ferraris. It is regarded as a second generation "Fiat Era" Ferrari, not an "Enzo Era". Yours for around $65K today in nice shape.

andys120

According to Wikipedia it first went on sale labeled a "Dino 308GT/4" with no mention of Ferrari. Then in 1974 it got Ferrari badging at the factory. It was Ferrari's first production car with a V8.'

boomchek

Mr_Shiftright said:

That's a 308 GT4 2+2, so could be 1974-1979, They made a fair number of them, and it is one of the least expensive Ferraris. It is regarded as a second generation "Fiat Era" Ferrari, not an "Enzo Era". Yours for around $65K today in nice shape.

Speaking of cheap Ferraris I'd take a Dino 308 over a Mondial. I personally never liked the Mondial's lines or proportions in coupe or convertible form.

boomchek

Any guesses?

Michaell

boomchek said:

Any guesses?

That's a Renault, though I don't know the model name.

You need to white out the wheel caps, too.

boomchek

Lol that was fast. When I first saw it I thought it was a Mazda CX7 knock off, or based on it but it is a Renault Kadjar.