Mystery car pix

stumack1

1960 Monarch Lucerne.

andys120

Drat, I've been having great fun dropping the occasional Canadian Mickey into this topic but along comes a Maple Leaf waver and blows the whole deal :mad:.

Yep it's a '60 Monarch Lucerne, known to us South of the Border types as the Mercury Monterey. Hideous isn't it ? :sick:

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kyfdx

Trans Am.. but, I'm having trouble nailing down the year.. Definitely '74-'79... If only an old Rockford Files was on right now...

My best guess is '77

negative

I will see kyfdx and raise him one. I think the '77 still had the more traditional Pontiac split grille, and that this uglification occurred in '78.

andys120

It's a '79. '78s still had a split grille.>>

imidazol97

Did that open-end hood actually get used on US versions? I don't remember it (guess the mind memory is the 2nd thing to go, they say).

imidazol97

We're these called Bluebirds?

andys120

Did that open-end hood actually get used on US versions?

If you're referring to the slot above the grille of the Monarch, no, I don't recall those on US Mercuries but then again '60 Mercuries were so bad looking I could have repressed that memory. :surprise:

I don't know of any automotive "Bluebirds" other than those made by Nissan/Datsun.

turboshadow

Lancia Zagato.

kyfdx

If you are referring to the blue Firebird in #5310, that is the "Formula 400" hood... That isn't a Trans Am..

They did have a special edition one year that had some sort of logo on the C-pillar... I don't remember if it was a "bluebird", but it was something goofy like that..

imidazol97

Skybird... 1978.

kyfdx

There ya go!!

It had a bird (dove-like), and some swirly curlicues around it... Really feminine.. (not that there is anything wrong with that..)

bumpy

This is a Bluebird:

andys120

negative

Looks like a DeSoto (or Chrysler) Airflow, c. 1938. I didn't know they came in a wagon.

fintail

I think its a DKW from ca. 1955, I am unsure of the model (something numeric or alphanumeric)

magnette

Although this looks like a DKW, I think its the East German IFA F9, which used the same body as the DKW Sonderklasse. This would be 1952-6, and they made them until they developed the Wartburg.

magnette

I know this is just a local varient of the Mercury (Montclair?) but doesn't the bonnet look more like a Chevy - or is that just me?

andys120

Magnette is right on the money, it's an IFA F9, made by Sachsenring, the same folks who built thew Trabant and the Wartburgs.

Try another?
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imidazol97

1951 Cadillac

magnette

1951 Cadillac 62 - they only offered the convertible on the 62 series at that time, I believe....

andys120

Thas right.

Try another?>>

imidazol97

So that's where the Lucerne name for Buick's newest luxury car comes from... it's not really from a milk company like some people try to joke.

firemanjack

Okay...'72 chevelle ...396? Jack

navigator89

Actually, I'm pretty sure they got the name from Lake Lucerne, near Geneva IIRC in Switzerland.

negative

Well, I guess I was just a bit off with the Airflow. But those eastern bloc cars were behind the times, anyway.

This is a probably a '73 or '74 Chevelle, but I'd need to see the back to be sure of which year.

andys120

Yep, it's a '73 Chevelle SS, a 350 Jack.

andys120

andys120

I din't think it'd be that hard :confuse: but since no one has so much as ventured a guess in over 12 hours I'll tell ya what it is--a 1950 Olds Holiday Club Coupe. For those of you who don't know the emblem of Olds during the 40s and 50s was a ringed planet Earth>>

andys120

stickguy

don't come like that anymore.

1950's vintage Vette?

andys120

It's from a '56 but it's pretty close to any '53-'57 'Vette inside.

andys120

negative

Just to get things moving, I will say I thought it was an Alfa. But now I know I was wrong.

stickguy

I assumed it was an Alfa too. The shape looks vaguely correct, and I thought it was an Alfa badge on the grill.

Is it an NSU?

andys120

Nope it's not an NSU. The Alfa guesses were wrong too but a little closer (hint).

fintail

Lancia Fulvia ca. 1970

andys120

Now you're talking, it's a '68 Fulvia 1.3, the Lancia Fulvia was an early effort at FWD power from the mid-60s on and a proven rally winner.

andys120

stickguy

Polo? In any case, something we don't get here, but I kinda like.

navigator89

Some Volkswagen, dont know the name.

negative

VW Polo? (Is it still made?)

ateixeira

That's a Brazilian model, in fact it does *not* share even a platform with the Polo.

VW do Brasil felt the smaller euro VWs were too "dorky" for its buyers, so they begged and pleaded for VW to let them build their own chassis, and won. Probably the last time they'll be allowed to build a non-world car, though.

There are other body styles, basically:

Gol = 3 door hatch
Voyage = 2/4 door sedan
Parati = 3/5 door wagon

The VW Fox, sold here about a decade ago, was actually made in Brazil, so basically the Fox coupe was a VW Voyage, and the Fox wagon was a VW Parati.

More useless trivia: these cars come with flex/fuel engines now, so they can run on Ethanol or Gas. Even more interesting, the best selling engine is under 1000cc!

-juice

andys120

Thank you for that treatise on the Gol. I always assumed (from the similarity of the name) that it was perhaps a stripped down version of the Golf.

The Gol is the basis for the VW Pointer sold by VW de Mexico, occasionally seen in the states.

Was the Voyage/Fox sedan a version of the Polo or totally unique to Brazilian production?

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fintail

Kind of reminds me of a chopped Ford Anglia 100E, but I see that it is German so that can't be it...

magnette

Ford Taunus 12M 1952 - about 1960 (I'm unsure on dates), and I can't recall ever seeing a convertible, so I don't know how long they made that version for. The early 15M had the same body for the saloon, from about 1955 - perhaps the convertible was only with the larger engine?

andys120

Yep, it's a '52 Taunus 12M Cabrio. Can't say I know much about it, but here's it's sedan equivalent>>

'55 Taunus 12M-

andys120

American-made! :P

magnette

1949 Crosley - a euro sized car!