Mystery car pix

magnette

No -still not posting pictures but this is what we had as a 200SX - not the little car you had

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1994_Nissan_200SX_(S13)_coupe_(22644060403).jpg

stickguy

we got that model too. I think it was the 3rd series. I liked those!

kyfdx

magnette said:

No -still not posting pictures but this is what we had as a 200SX - not the little car you had

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1994_Nissan_200SX_(S13)_coupe_(22644060403).jpg

That was a 240SX, here.

My wife had a '90 model, when we got married.

magnette

ok - presumably we got that one same as you but not the earlier ones

ab348

I have a couple more Toronto pictures for next week but for today I'll post this rather charming pic from what is apparently 1959, courtesy of the Americar page on FB.



Interesting picture posting note: I had to look up where I had saved this pic using File Explorer, and when I found it I had this posting box open. I right-clicked the image in Explorer and dragged it here. The software generated the Vanilla code for it automatically. Must try that on my other PC which never allows posting of pictures.

magnette

We did get the (Mitsubishi) Colt as a Colt in it's own right - ie Colt Lancer, Colt Sigma etc from the mid 70's right through to the Colt Mirage in the early 80's - but with less flamboyant bumpers.
Mitsubishi didn't want the name for the British market as it was too reminiscent of the Zero etc at the time (didn't stop Messerschmitt nor initially Heinkel selling their little cars here a decade or more earlier though - the Heinkel was later sold here as a Trojan when assembled in Brighton)

Those Colts were well received but are - like most early Japanese cars - now virtually extinct here - not just the salt on our roads but the fact that while they were totally reliable when new the more advanced electrical components - effectively electronics- were not easily replaced off the shelf.

Our awful BL Lucas electrical components were not much good but they did sell replacements because they never updated them so an alternator could be sourced from a Sherpa van or an MGB and it was also simple kit with British Fords - but the Japanese cars were dead reliable and basically died when simple things like brake light sensors or switches were needed - same with other imports too although Fiat VW etc tended to have the older stuff in stock as it was common across the range I think. Of course it was rust that got the Fiats... until they became better when they went plastic

stickguy

lots of chrome in that picture. and really shows how radically styling and design changed from about 57-59/60.

andys120

I noticed the '59 Pontiac in your Tronna street scene. I don't notice the wheels being more inset than on its American cousin, in fact the track appears wider than on the '59 Buick ahead of it, From that angle it should show, shouldn't it.

magnette

I see two 59 Buicks - the gold one facing us and on the opposite side the black or grey one just beyond the lamp post
Also two 55 Bel-Airs - one passing the other unloading.
Is the furthest car on this side of the road a 59 Mercury?

magnette

Forget that - I couldn't get that photo across either

fintail

Is that pic from Detroit or something? So many new/late model cars.

I see 50s Seattle pics with prewar cars still hanging around here and there - the climate was gentle then, too.

fintail

We got them thanks to the Chrysler link. Many were sold as Dodge/Plymouth, but the Mitsu brand existed too although I don't think it sold as well - maybe too soon for bad memories. I suspect they are rare now here for the same reasons as there. The brand coasted through the 80s without much change on this side of the pond, maybe receiving a bit of a revival with the rebadged Hyundai Precis, the modern 89 Galant, and finally the 3000GT.

magnette said:

We did get the (Mitsubishi) Colt as a Colt in it's own right - ie Colt Lancer, Colt Sigma etc from the mid 70's right through to the Colt Mirage in the early 80's - but with less flamboyant bumpers.
Mitsubishi didn't want the name for the British market as it was too reminiscent of the Zero etc at the time (didn't stop Messerschmitt nor initially Heinkel selling their little cars here a decade or more earlier though - the Heinkel was later sold here as a Trojan when assembled in Brighton)

Those Colts were well received but are - like most early Japanese cars - now virtually extinct here - not just the salt on our roads but the fact that while they were totally reliable when new the more advanced electrical components - effectively electronics- were not easily replaced off the shelf.

Our awful BL Lucas electrical components were not much good but they did sell replacements because they never updated them so an alternator could be sourced from a Sherpa van or an MGB and it was also simple kit with British Fords - but the Japanese cars were dead reliable and basically died when simple things like brake light sensors or switches were needed - same with other imports too although Fiat VW etc tended to have the older stuff in stock as it was common across the range I think. Of course it was rust that got the Fiats... until they became better when they went plastic

ab348

andys120 said:

I noticed the '59 Pontiac in your Tronna street scene. I don't notice the wheels being more inset than on its American cousin, in fact the track appears wider than on the '59 Buick ahead of it, From that angle it should show, shouldn't it.

It's not a Toronto pic. It is from "This is (or was, not sure the exact title these days) Americar" on FB. It is an American shot from an unstated US city.

Lostwrench3

I'll grab the 1953 Buick Super Riviera.

tmart

ab348 said:

I have a couple more Toronto pictures for next week but for today I'll post this rather charming pic from what is apparently 1959, courtesy of the Americar page on FB.



Interesting picture posting note: I had to look up where I had saved this pic using File Explorer, and when I found it I had this posting box open. I right-clicked the image in Explorer and dragged it here. The software generated the Vanilla code for it automatically. Must try that on my other PC which never allows posting of pictures.

I’ll take the two 57 Fords, and what looks to be a 59, but might not be.

magnette

As it looks like I can post pictures from Safari tonight here are a few to ponder...

Last Fare



One family owner from new



Rare as Hens teeth here



Call Frank Drebbin - He's robbed the Wicker store - he's getting away

magnette

Names live on

magnette

Unknown here- but why is this so rare there?

magnette

Not quite what it looks like

stickguy

wagons were not all that popular here at that point, so I doubt that model was a very high % to start with. and they likely have mostly fell apart by now!

tjc78

fintail said:

I was leaving the Stude for him

That winter tire mention brings back memories of my mom's T-Bird. I recall by late fall, my dad would switch the car over to winter tires at rear only - my mom was paranoid about winter driving. If there was any significant snow on the ground, she also wanted chains, and I remember sometimes it seemed like they were on the car for weeks. She never really got over this - when I was of driving age, I'd drive her to work if it snowed, and my brother kept that up until she retired, she avoided snow whenever possible. Today, if it snows, she just stays home.

Speaking of snow, I spot at least one here that is never seen anymore (click zoom etc) - January 1989:

The burgundy Grand Marquis between the Thunderbird and Daytona is a twin of my first car.

ab348

magnette said:

Names live on

I remember reading that Desoto models were being made by some firm in Turkey? Surely not Chrysler but who knows...

Enjoyed the Frank Drebin line about the wicker store.

stickguy

that Desoto is homely, but looks like it can handle crappy roads!

fintail

The white two door is an Anadol, Turkish car. I had a "World Cars" book when I was a kid that mentioned the brand, and for some reason it stuck with me. By the background house and car, the Anadol is in Blighty, a bit of a drive from Turkey.

The basket car appears to be a ZAZ Zaporozets. I assume a Hungarian registration by the H.

Saturn wagons are uncommon here, but maybe not rare yet. The first Saturn wagon was fairly attractive IMO.

magnette said:

Not quite what it looks like

fintail

Looks like a 59 Ford parked at far left behind a 55 Chevy.

tmart said:

I’ll take the two 57 Fords, and what looks to be a 59, but might not be.

bhill2

I'm with Fin. It's a '59 Ford.

andys120

magnette

This is the Kaiser Manhattan - and a late one from 1953/4 when they had introduced a wrap around window and also those lights which are different from the usual ones

They did build it in after ceasing in the US - IKA made it in Argentina for a few years

Lostwrench3

It is a 1954 or 1955 Kaiser.
I would need to see the hood ornament to determine which of those years it is.

magnette

The DeSoto was built by a firm called Askam in Turkey - they made various trucks from about 1964 and they were part owned by Chrysler - they sold trucks and vans under the brands DeSoto Fargo and Dodge in Turkey - and probably in surrounding nations too. The early trucks used various cabs from Chrysler group concerns and I think that included Dodge lorry cabs from UK

When Chrysler sold its share in 1978 at about the time of the Chrysler / Daimler Benz merger the name changed to Askam Kamyon and made more light vehicles and these 4x4 trucks with more local involvement but the firm closed in 2015

There is a bit about Askam on Wikipedia

magnette

Sticking with Turkey - as Fin says the white car is an Anadol A1 a model developed in Britain by Reliant for local assembly in Turkey from fibreglass. This one is registered ion Turkey which is not that unusual in Britain for modern cars or trucks but pretty unusual for old ones like this.

It is related to the Reliant Scimitar Coupe - Reliant also had a similar role with Israel building the Sabra sports car - sold in the US at some stage in the early sixties - and that model was a relative of the Reliant sabre Six. Sabra also had involvement with Rom Carmel cars and Autocar both of which were made using British power units (ie Triumph in some cases) and Reliant moulds for the bodywork although it was a complicated saga due to the turmoil in the middle east and the problems of embargoes etc I suppose

magnette

I put the Rolls Royce i as it was the Queens official birthday on Saturday - it coincides with the anniversary of the coronation when she became Queen rather than her actual birthday which is I think is in February.

The car is not the usual Phantom V but something rarer - its a Phantom IV which was powered by a 5.6 litre straight eight - nothing like anything else RR had made then or now.

Only about 18 of these cars were made - 9 with this coachwork - by Mulliners - and the others with different bodies.

Apart from our royals a couple of cars were sold to the Emir of Kuwait and two to the King of Iraq (Faisal or Idris, I don't know which) - the one who got killed in the early fifties. Also General Franco had three - one of which was a convertible I believe

This actual car is still in the Royal fleet and in use - I've seen it parked at the side of Westminster Abbey once - but tends to be used for minor royals now I think.

magnette

The Austin based hearse is of course on an FX4 type chassis although there was also an FH3 which was a non London Taxi for hire car use ( you rent the car and driver ) and some others were used for van bodies - generally delivering in central London - either garments to the west end shops or newspaper deliveries.

The hearses were bodied by Carbodies Ltd who did most of the taxis, and I have heard of deceased taxi drivers in London having one of these for their funeral ...

magnette

The AMC Pacer is registered in UK and rare here - I've only seen one or two. There was an attempt to import them with RHD in the 70's but the road test at the time said the steering linkage - which involved a chain link of some sort - was terrible

This one probably got left behind by a departing serviceman or whoever

magnette

The Saturn wagon is very unusual as it is RHD and was a special model sold mainly to the postal service in the US or for what I think are private postal delivery services - Saturn sold some RHD units to Japan but these parcel ones have asymmetrical doors - one door on your offside and two - with no central pillar - on the RHD driver side... for mail deliveries

Its known as a Saturn SWP and is pretty unusual I would imagine.

magnette

And yes Fin - the wicker store robber is in a ZAZ Zaprozhets from Hungary - note the Lada 1200 ahead of it

(As that car is a Lada perhaps they robbed the food store)

Apologies for that - I think lockdown is to blame..

ab348

magnette said:

I put the Rolls Royce i as it was the Queens official birthday on Saturday - it coincides with the anniversary of the coronation when she became Queen rather than her actual birthday which is I think is in February.

The car is not the usual Phantom V but something rarer - its a Phantom IV which was powered by a 5.6 litre straight eight - nothing like anything else RR had made then or now.

Only about 18 of these cars were made - 9 with this coachwork - by Mulliners - and the others with different bodies.

Apart from our royals a couple of cars were sold to the Emir of Kuwait and two to the King of Iraq (Faisal or Idris, I don't know which) - the one who got killed in the early fifties. Also General Franco had three - one of which was a convertible I believe

This actual car is still in the Royal fleet and in use - I've seen it parked at the side of Westminster Abbey once - but tends to be used for minor royals now I think.

Nice to see HRH exercising all due economy in maintaining a veteran car fleet instead of buying the latest and greatest thing from RR, Jaguar or Bentley for her use.

Actually it is hard to imagine her using the latest RR offerings - aside from price they are so ostentatious it would likely cause considerable negative reaction.

ab348

Time for today's Toronto archives pic. I wonder if the fur coats gave the car on the right thoughts of the motherland.

stickguy

Pontiac version of the chevette, followed by an Audi (100? Not the rounded 5000 I don’t think but hard for me to get the detail on the little screen)

tjc78

85 Town Car, I think the K car is a Reliant.

magnette

HM does have a 2002 Bentley limo - Like the subtle hood ornament

magnette

tjc78 said:

85 Town Car, I think the K car is a Reliant.

But it's got four wheels unlike most of our Reliants

magnette

That yellow Lada from the Toronto shot looks different on the side trim - it could be the 1600 that we had as the Riva

ab348

Yes, that is how they looked here. A better pic, I don't think the wheels are factory spec:

magnette

Newcastle upon Tyne 1965

fintail

Indeed a 5000, 1986 or later.

stickguy said:

Pontiac version of the chevette, followed by an Audi (100? Not the rounded 5000 I don’t think but hard for me to get the detail on the little screen)

fintail

It's like a bunch of period Corgi and Dinky cars became life-sized.

I will pick off the Jag Mark X behind the truck at left, next to a parking meter.

magnette said:

Newcastle upon Tyne 1965

ab348

Newcastle is one of the cities in England I would enjoy visiting based upon television programs I have seen regarding the area. That picture looks positively lovely.

I see what I think is a Triumph Herald and either a Wolseley Hornet or Riley Elf immediately ahead of it. Is that an Austin Cambridge by Pininfarina on the other curb?

fintail

Given the year and those cars, I can hear something like Herman's Hermits or Gerry and the Pacemakers in the background.

omarman

Looking at the girl on the bench maybe she hears Freddie and the Dreamers?

Freddie had one of the best pop voices in the 60s. Humor and dance moves too.