Mystery car pix

fintail

I think the neat Corolla woody at right is no older than 1975.

tmart

A Honda CVCC

kyfdx

2nd Gen Civic... 1981+

fintail

I think that's a pre-80 Civic.

A couple cars behind it, behind one I will leave for someone else, looks like a Dodge Aspen, so again no older than 75.

tmart

fintail said:

I think that's a pre-80 Civic.

A couple cars behind it, behind one I will leave for someone else, looks like a Dodge Aspen, so again no older than 75.

Why do you think no older than 75? The Aspen was produced until 1980 MY. I had a 77 Aspen wagon with a floor shifter.

texases

? A '77 is "no older" than a '75.

fintail

First Aspen/Volare was in 75, right? Unless the car has the rare flux capacitor option, it probably won't be on the road before that general time

tmart

Can’t speak for others, but I got well over 100k miles on the speedo. From my experience, my Aspen was a great car. Was my first car with A/C!

kyfdx

tmart said:

Can’t speak for others, but I got well over 100k miles on the speedo. From my experience, my Aspen was a great car. Was my first car with A/C!

Started driving in 1974. Didn't get my first car with A/C until 1990 ('84 model).

sda

fintail said:

First Aspen/Volare was in 75, right? Unless the car has the rare flux capacitor option, it probably won't be on the road before that general time

Aspen/Volare came out as a 76 model I believe in late 75. A friends dad had a 76 Volare Premier dr, silver, red half vinyl top and body side moldings, red interior, 225 slant 6. It was a pretty nice car. Of course soon after it started to rust.

tmart

kyfdx said:

tmart said:

Can’t speak for others, but I got well over 100k miles on the speedo. From my experience, my Aspen was a great car. Was my first car with A/C!

Started driving in 1974. Didn't get my first car with A/C until 1990 ('84 model).

Got my license at 14 (in S.C.). First car was a two tone blue 56 Ford Fairlane from my grandmother in 67. Had the 312 Thunderbird engine and would still cherp the tires going into second in 1977!

bhill2

Thunderbird 312, eh? Any interesting stories about Grandma?

andys120

ab348 said:

Are you asking us what it used to be, or what it is now? :laughing:

Well I really shouldn't have posted it because it's a one-off, forbidden by the topic ground rules but it's really a kinda cool modification IMHO. I've never seen it before.

Officially it's being auctioned as a 1959 Imperial Speedster.

tmart

bhill2 said:

Thunderbird 312, eh? Any interesting stories about Grandma?

Back in day my Dad had a Ford dealership and sold it to her. No earthly idea why he sold it to her with that engine. She was the stereotypical grandma. She drove it to the beauty parlor, liquor store and grocery store, at no more than 45MPH, averaging 3k miles per year. It had the ORIGINAL wide white wall spare tire and it still held air! The body was real metal, not the tinfoil of today. My father-in-law was to restore it, but it disappeared when he sold his body shop.

tmart

Interesting update on the Ford. In 70, I got a 57 Thunderbird with the same 312 engine. At approximately 55k miles, the Ford need a new water pump. When the Bird reached the same mileage, it needed a new water pump. Talk about planned obsolescence! Sold the Bird to buy the Aspen. Hard to justify a two seater with a growing family and moving to hot Houston.

tjc78

fintail said:

Looks like a G5 maybe with a "GT" or similar package.

2006 Pontiac Pursuit. Canadian rebadged Cobalt. Never heard of it before. Was on a detailing video.

ab348

tjc78 said:

fintail said:

Looks like a G5 maybe with a "GT" or similar package.

2006 Pontiac Pursuit. Canadian rebadged Cobalt. Never heard of it before. Was on a detailing video.

GM Canada introduced the Pursuit at the same time as the Chevy Cobalt appeared to once again give Canadian Pontiac dealers a Chevy twin to sell. You may recall that the G5 was not introduced in parallel with the Cobalt in the US and it took a year or so for that to occur. When it did, the Pursuit name was dropped here and they became G5s.

The renaming practice up here finally stopped in the fall of '09. When Buick introduced the 2nd-gen 2010 Lacrosse, the Canadian version was still called Allure. I saw one badged as such on a dealer lot here prior to official introduction. It was the only one I ever saw as GM dropped that name in time for the intro.

ab348

fintail said:

I think that's a pre-80 Civic.

A couple cars behind it, behind one I will leave for someone else, looks like a Dodge Aspen, so again no older than 75.

I think you are referring to the Peugeot 504. I always liked those, but sadly were let down by a very thin dealer network here.

ab348

Here's another Wiley pic from that same era with a few oddballs captured in the wild. No, I'm not talking about the "Hot Cashews" pushcarts. Those of you with encyclopedic knowledge should have no problem with it. This expands in the usual manner::

stickguy

Nissan up front. I hope it’s a 200SX.

stickguy

And yellow TR7 on the far curb.

kyfdx

stickguy said:

Nissan up front. I hope it’s a 200SX.

Looks like it

imidazol97

tmart said:

Interesting update on the Ford. In 70, I got a 57 Thunderbird with the same 312 engine. At approximately 55k miles, the Ford need a new water pump. When the Bird reached the same mileage, it needed a new water pump. Talk about planned obsolescence! Sold the Bird to buy the Aspen. Hard to justify a two seater with a growing family and moving to hot Houston.

I beat a 56 Ford 312 with my 57 Ford 292. Four-barrel vs two-barrel.

magnette

The estate car being pursued by the Pinto is a Renault 12 wagon, although the grille looks different or possibly missing unless it was different in your market.
The red coupe is a Datsun ? Nissan 200SX - that isn't a model I would recognise in our market. Was this a version only sold over there?
EDIT - what I mean is we had a Nissan 200SX but it was not this car - we had a later looking coupe
Further EDIT - I think the difference with the Renault 12 is this car has round double headlights, and we got single square ones generally

texases

@ab348 - what street intersection is near that pic? I'm curious if the old building and church are still there.

ab348

It is the corner of Bloor St W and Queens Park. Both are still there although the area around them is largely unrecognizable. It is an Anglican Church of the Redeemer, and the larger old building is the Lillian Massey Building of the University of Toronto. More it at this link: https://tayloronhistory.com/category/lillian-massey-domestic-sciences-building/

Current Streetview look:
https://goo.gl/maps/v3fQchRpmubcn1dTA

fintail

Taxi just behind the Pinto (79-80) looks like an LTD II, which will always stick in my mind as Brian Dennehy's police car in the original Rambo.

That Renault wagon is insanely rare, quite a sighting. I was thinking maybe it could be a Canadian market Dacia 1310, but I think those had a black plastic front end.

The 200SX was sold in most other markets as the Silvia, I've always kind of liked those for their weirdness, I bet that one aged quickly in that climate.

magnette

We didn't get that Silvia (200SX), but we did get the subsequent 200SX shape which was longer.
The shape of the rear side windows in the car shown is distinctive

The Renault 12 as an estate car was quite successful in Britain and we have seen Dacia 1300 salons and estates as that model was sold (possibly still is ) in Romania and a fair number of people from there and neighbouring countries came to UK but only a few remain I think. I saw a Renault 12 saloon a year or two back in a side street in London but nothing more recent.

magnette

Unusually saw a Ferrari Testarossa - like the one from Miami Vice but a red one - in our street two days ago as it was at our local garage for its annual MOT test - it was really dusty and apparently hadn't been out for a while according to the chap at the garage - we chat when I go to the shops by shouting across the road (social distancing) as there is really less traffic than we are used to...
I am aware there are replica Testarossas built on various chassis but the garage chap said it was the real thing.

tmart

I touched Quote accidentally. How do I delete it so it doesn’t come back when the page refreshes? I’ve tried backspacing it. The comment box goes from yellow back to white, but if refreshed, the whole erroneous quote returns!

Michaell

tmart said:

I touched Quote accidentally. How do I delete it so it doesn’t come back when the page refreshes? I’ve tried backspacing it. The comment box goes from yellow back to white, but if refreshed, the whole erroneous quote returns!

On the right, you should see an option for "Draft" - click that, then hover over the draft quote and a small x should appear in the top right. Click on that, and your mistake should go away, permanently.

fintail

Maybe delete the text and "save draft"?

Speaking of Silvia, this was the next generation, available as a notchback and fastback (here in USDM spec):





My uncle had a hatch for a couple years when I was a kid, I think it might have been the car that met an unfortunate end on an icy day.

Michaell

fintail said:

Maybe delete the text and "save draft"?

Speaking of Silvia, this was the next generation, available as a notchback and fastback (here in USDM spec):





My uncle had a hatch for a couple years when I was a kid, I think it might have been the car that met an unfortunate end on an icy day.

My uncle had a white coupe version of that car, when he and his family moved to CA in the late 70's. 5-speed, blue interior. Used as a commuter for his job about 20-25 miles away.

When I graduated college, I found the '85 Accord I would ultimately buy. My dad questioned the idea of a stick, but my uncle (bless his heart) advocated that I should get the manual.

tmart

Michaell said:

tmart said:

I touched Quote accidentally. How do I delete it so it doesn’t come back when the page refreshes? I’ve tried backspacing it. The comment box goes from yellow back to white, but if refreshed, the whole erroneous quote returns!

On the right, you should see an option for "Draft" - click that, then hover over the draft quote and a small x should appear in the top right. Click on that, and your mistake should go away, permanently.

Clicked on save draft but can’t get the small x. Tried Fintail’s suggestion to no avail. Using safari if that makes a difference.

omarman

It does work as described but it's not easy to explain mouse click navigation into a text explanation. But maybe try these steps after saving the draft.

After you click on Save Draft, refresh the page and at the top right of the page there is a box labeled QUICK LINKS. Under the link My Bookmarks there will be a link labeled My Drafts.

Click on My Drafts link and your saved draft post will be shown on the left side of the page. When you move your cursor over the draft there will be a small X on the right side of the draft post. Clicking on that X will remove the draft.

stickguy

or just go into drafts, click to open it, type over whatever is there (can just say Hi!) and save it. It will post and draft disappears.

tjc78

Safari on what? iPhone/IPad? If so just long tap(hold) at the message box until until “select all” appears. Click it, then backspace. Wait ten seconds or so to auto Save the draft.

ab348

With Vanilla software (not just here but everywhere it seems), Drafts are like grudges. They never really go away.

ab348

Today's Wiley pic from early-'70s Toronto isn't one with challenging cars to ID, but offers a look at something you no longer see very much of. Might want to expand this one even a bit beyond its native resolution to get my drift.

fintail

Player's Please? Phonebooths? Basic model 2 door full sized cars?

ab348

No, you're ice cold.

fintail

Ice cold - something to do with beer?

I wonder what that Challenger has under the hood - rally wheels at front, large wheels at back, rear stripe, hood scoop, etc.

ab348

fintail said:

Ice cold - something to do with beer?

I wonder what that Challenger has under the hood - rally wheels at front, large wheels at back, rear stripe, hood scoop, etc.

OK, you're close enough that I'll put you out of your misery. I guess my hints were too subtle.

When was the last time you saw a Challenger with a hood blister and engine callout on it, with a R/T stripe, running steelies with snow treads on the rear wheels only? Common thing to do with daily drivers back then in the days before the tire cabal went to 4 snowtires or none at all being required. But today that car would never be seen in anything but salt-free weather.

If you blow up the pic you can actually see the lug treads on the rear.

@uplanderguy will be cross with us for not mentioning the Studie in the pic either.

fintail

I was leaving the Stude for him

That winter tire mention brings back memories of my mom's T-Bird. I recall by late fall, my dad would switch the car over to winter tires at rear only - my mom was paranoid about winter driving. If there was any significant snow on the ground, she also wanted chains, and I remember sometimes it seemed like they were on the car for weeks. She never really got over this - when I was of driving age, I'd drive her to work if it snowed, and my brother kept that up until she retired, she avoided snow whenever possible. Today, if it snows, she just stays home.

Speaking of snow, I spot at least one here that is never seen anymore (click zoom etc) - January 1989:

tmart

Do you mean the Thunderbird?

fintail

Nope, much less common even then.

stickguy

the BMW? Or the black car with the roof rack next to the silver Tempo 2 door?

ab348

Being in the salt belt, virtually none of those are ever seen these days, so I will have to lay out of this one.

fintail

Maybe nobody will see it, I'll give it away now. In the 2nd row between a Rabbit and an early 70s Dart Swinger/Scamp coupe appears to be a ~1980 Dodge Colt (Mitsubishi captive import) wagon. Haven't seen one of those in eons.

E21 is an exotic in the group, too. Black car with roof rack appears to be an 87+ Celebrity wagon.

magnette

That didn't look like our 200SX either. I would post a picture but haven't managed to do so for a while now.