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  • fintailfintail Posts: 42,518
    I too prefer the facelift 95-97 TC over the 98+ whale-like model.

    Lincoln really has nothing in the current product line that comes close to the style of a 61 Continental (to be fair, few do), maybe they don't want to rub that in. Comparing current models to a Zephyr is enough of a stretch.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 58,048
    How can a car be too big for Australia? You have a lot of room in the middle there. :P

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  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 6,563
    I liked the 1995-1997 design with the slimmer headlamps

    Yes, they also had a better dashboard and more features showed up in 95.

    I never thought the 98-02 was ugly, just much different.

    IMO the 88-89 is the best looking TC ever.

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  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 6,563
    but there's a reason it got "torched in that Lincoln ad.

    Honestly the 90-97 style is more recognizable as a Town Car than the 98-02 which is most likely why they used it. I bet a huge percentage of the population (even non car people) would be able to identify a 90-97 LTC.

    I'm no fan of any of the Panther cars .

    Blasphemy!!!

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  • grahampetersgrahampeters AustraliaPosts: 1,783
    G'day

    You are correct about the space in the middle of Australia. We have just come back from a long trip to Alice Springs, Uluru (Ayers Rock) and the Oodnadatta Track. Lots of space, lots of dirt and very empty compared to the cities where most Australians live. If I can remember how to post photos, I will post details of some interesting vehicles.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 18,783

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  • bubba_txbubba_tx Posts: 2
    I'm trying to identify the make/model & year of this car to date it and try to identify the people. The Year of the car will help me rule In/Out certain people. The rounded front hood is unusual.">

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    Thanks for any help you can provide.
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 18,783
    edited July 2013
    Franklin cars made in Syracuse NY used air-cooled engines and did not always need the stand-up radiator seen on most cars of the time.

    The car in your picture resembles this 1918 Franklin Model 9B>

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    The shape of the fenders and top supports are the same. It's impossible to guess the exact year, they didn't have regular styling changes back then but it's likely late teens or early 20s.

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  • bhill2bhill2 Posts: 1,792
    One interesting thing is that this is the used car (presumably trade-in) lot of a Pontiac dealer and there is not one Pontiac visible. The front line goes '59 Ford, '62 Chevy, '63 Ford, '61 Chevy, '62 Ford, '61-'63 Tbird, W Beetle, and one at the end that I cannot identify (maybe that's the Pontiac).

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 42,518
    Doh, you beat me to it. :P

    It's definitely a Franklin, late teens. By 1921, the grille/front end had changed. Notice the car in the pic even has the same rear windows on the top.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Posts: 21,438
    Are the spokes on the wheel smaller on the 18 in the museum than on the car in the historical picture?

    Is that likely due to restoration?

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  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 18,783
    edited July 2013
    Are the spokes on the wheel smaller on the 18 in the museum than on the car in the historical picture?

    Is that likely due to restoration?


    The spokes on the car in the original photo do look a little thicker but I think that's because of the lighter color. It could be that the black spokes just look thinner, or it could be that the wheels came from a different supplier. Here's a Franklin 9B with much thicker spokes than either>

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    Here's one with metal wire spokers>

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Posts: 21,438
    Also in my mind was that the difference in spoke technology might have indicated a different year or year span for the original vehicle.

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  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 18,783
    edited July 2013
    Also in my mind was that the difference in spoke technology might have indicated a different year or year span for the original vehicle.

    Could be, but it would take a real expert to know. As recently as the 1950s and 60s some makers of limited production cars would make little changes to wheels bumpers or trim within a production year.

    Any Franklin experts out there?

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  • texasestexases Posts: 7,843
    Re: the wood spokes - not only could it be different suppliers, we could be looking at a replacement wheel on one or the other made to different specs. Hard driving on rough roads could require replacing wheels, I bet.

    It is almost amazing how similar the tops are, I guess by the late teens they were standardized and installed by the factory. Earlier, many cars were delivered without a top or windshield, to be fitted with ones from one of the many suppliers.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 11,966
    The car in the old picture has 12 spoke wheels and car in the museum picture has 10 spoke wheels. I think that was the 'save 20 pounds per wheel' upgrade. ;)
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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 58,048
    edited July 2013
    Spoke and stamped wheels rendered artillery wheels obsolete by the late 1920s. Artillery wheels made of wood are incredibly dangerous.

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  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Ct.Posts: 853
    Hmm, I count 12 + 12.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 11,966
    You are right, I counted wrong. :blush:
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  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 18,783
    Good job on those but you didn't mention the first gen
    ('60-'63) Falcon behind the '59 Ford or the VW Beetle behind that.

    The last car on the right could be a '59 Pontiac...or not.

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  • bhill2bhill2 Posts: 1,792
    Good job on those but you didn't mention the first gen
    ('60-'63) Falcon behind the '59 Ford or the VW Beetle behind that.


    Yeah, I just took the first row. But since we're here anyway, the Falcon is a wagon.

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  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 18,783
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  • fintailfintail Posts: 42,518
    edited July 2013
    Lada Niva/Cossack, this one apparently UK spec (unless image is reversed).

    These were sold in Canada for awhile, too. Still in production, I am pretty sure.
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 18,783
    Yup, it's a UK market Spec 1987 Lada Niva. I wasn't sure if they were still making them, surprisingly they are. The Niva is a Brezhnev Era vehicle based on ancient Fiat 124 mechanicals.

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  • magnettemagnette London UKPosts: 2,450
    edited July 2013
    Talking of Lada on Friday as I came home from work I was a few cars behind a Fiat 124 / Lada - couldn't tell which as no badges visible - it was partly in primer - and the registration, which was age related was either the first year of Lada sales or the end of Fiat 124's. Anyway, its ages since I saw one and it was running pretty well.

    We still see a Lada Niva from time to time - they have a following with enthusiasts - and there was a Samara in North London somewhere that I kept seeing until last winter - probably gone now but he might just have a different route to work or something.
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 18,783
    Talking of Lada on Friday as I came home from work I was a few cars behind a Fiat 124 / Lada

    You're referring to the Soviet built version known variously as the VAZ 2101 or the Lada 1200. The 124-based sedans and wagons comprise perhaps the most widely produced model of all-time (If you add the totals of Fiat, Lada/VAZ, Premier Autos [India] and Seat) not to mention versions produced in Turkey, Korea, Egypt and Bulgaria.

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  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 18,783
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  • magnettemagnette London UKPosts: 2,450
    Autobianchi A112 - not sure which version. It's registered in Paris. The white car approaching is a Fiat 128.
  • berriberri Posts: 7,918
    France, Italy; where's the tow truck - just kidding!
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 25,991
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