Mystery car pix

karsick

Lancia Dedra. :confuse:

If so, what a winner of a name :sick:

andys120

Yep, a. 1990 Lancia Dedra, the name is in keeping w the Lancia tradition of Greek names.

andys120

stever

Is that the white on white Maybach that was at SEMA? (If it wasn't at SEMA, it should have been - along with a trunk full of Spray N Wash and Scotchgard).

texases

Could be, just seems that Torino's got that extra line in the fender:

imidazol97

Does this match the shape for the Torino bumper and fender?
The top of the fender edge above the bumper doesn't look like the same shape, to me at least. And the car on the right at the dealership looks like a Camaro greenhouse.

andys120

I'm with you on the shape of the F-body greenhouse. The missing crease on the car next might mean it's not a Torino
but I'm not so sure all Torinos had that prominent crease shown in the phot of the yellow one. :confuse:

andys120

I dunno what was shown @ SEMA but that is a 2008 Maybach 62
Laundulet which Daimler AG thinks will sell to Middle Eastern potentates. I suspect armored 7-series will be more popular with that market.

andys120

Check out those tail pipes.

Mr_Shiftright

HUH...looks like a Packard Carib all right, 53 or 54 but I don't recall it had a metal tonneau to hide the top. Is this some custom car?

andys120

HUH...looks like a Packard Carib all right, 53 or 54 but I don't recall it had a metal tonneau to hide the top. Is this some custom car?

It's a concept car, the Packard PanAmerican was shown at the 1952 NY Auto Show. It would have cost $19,000 a copy if put into production so they decontented and sold it as the Carribean.

andys120

imidazol97

Ooops. Not so quick.

What's the black car behind the Pan Am? the one with the removable hardtop look?

guss

Fiat Dino Coupe, from the late 60's

stickguy

AM DB4?
Early Porsche 911 Targe
Older Porsche 356 something
E Type Jag
Benz SL roadster
A Bently coupe
A really old balck convertible
and the slice of Blue car? I guess a TR-6

andys120

AM DB4?
Early Porsche 911 Targe
Older Porsche 356 something
E Type Jag
Benz SL roadster
A Bently coupe
A really old balck convertible
and the slice of Blue car? I guess a TR-6

Grade B... Your answers are all correct but some are
incomplete:

Targa is spelled wrong, the Jag is a Series II (post 1968) with the larger grill and open headlights. The SL is a 300SL Roadster (1958-62) and the Bentley is likely a Continental Type R, the pre-war convertible is likely a Bentley as well possibly a Speed Six or Blower Bentley.

The slice of blue car could be anything. I'd give you a solid B which is a lot better than Guss gets, I give him a D+ because the red car is in fact Fiat based and does use virtually the same nose as the Dino Spider but it isn't a Dino coupe and wasn't sold as a Fiat despite the Fiat badge that can be seen in the grille.

With those clues, who wants to try the red coupe?

magnette

Wild guess time

The main car looks like an OSI, but I didn't think they did a Fiat type nose, so it could be anything from one of the "etceterini" the small Italian firms that work out of sheds building beautiful coupes out of any box of Fiat bits they can find.
Other cars;
M-B 300SL
Porsche 911 Targa - either a 2.4 or 2.7, can't see the badge clearly
Porsche 356 Cabriolet - it looks like a late one so I'll guess a 356C
Bentley S2 Continental (Park Ward ? )
Aston Martin DB4
Jaguar E-Type, it's a Mark 3, ie the V12 (they did make a very few mk3 sixes, but I've never seen one.
The black car is way out of our period, and the bloke is standing exactly in front of the radiator but I think this is a Lagonda from the early 30's as the headlights look too close together for a Bentley somehow. It might be an Alvis.

That leaves the blue thing, and it looks pretty slab-sided. Based on the fact that all the other cars are quite desirable I wonder if it is something like an ISO or a Monteverdi ?

stickguy

If my posts are being graded on spelling now, I'm surprised I am not pulling an F.

I can spell BTW, I just can't type, and am too lazy to actually spell check this stuff.

For the SL, can you tell from that angle if it is a 190 or a 300?

kyfdx

That looks like a Buick badge on the grill.. :surprise:

Or.. maybe that's just my monitor..

texases

Not that it would be in this group, but the fender on the blue thing looks surprisingly like a '68 Valiant!

fintail

It's a 300SL - the side vents

magnette

I think it's a 300SL because of the vents on the front wing, and because it looks too large to be a 190. My spelling goes awry too, somehow things don't look wrong until after I've posted them - hence the number of times I have to edit !

andys120

I think it's a 300SL because of the vents on the front wing, and because it looks too large to be a 190.

What he said!

I might've give Stickguy a B+ if his spelling was better.

I think any guesses to the identity of the slice of blue car are just a stab in the dark. As to the red coupe, no one has yet identified it. It has to be pretty obscure if Magnette or Fintail didn't get it. Going...going...

Mr_Shiftright

I was just looking in my fridge to make a shopping list and marked off that I need some more beer, and what do you know....I drink MORETTI, an Italian beer, and I know they did a lot of Fiat work, so that's my guess. I think a friend of mine had a Moretti when I was in the Army but that was I believe Fiat 850 based.

stickguy

Well, knock a point off your grade for grammer.

I might've give Stickguy a B+ if his spelling was better

Mr_Shiftright

and yer grandpa, too!

hudsonthedog

Well, knock a point off your grade for grammer.

And another for spelling ("grammar").

texases

Let's try this one

stever

Not Italian and not showing up for me, unless I go to the link, and even that isn't working in IE. Seems ok in Firefox. (ok, your editing worked fine, but I liked the color on the other one better ).

I guess I ain't gonna menshun the Grammar and the Peeves that Pet It discussion.

imidazol97

"M" for Mercury. Looks like a Turnpike Cruiser. In Pink and Black, a very daring color combo in the Midwest in those years. And those were the 1957 years. Is it a Monterey model?

texases

Bingo, 1957 Turnpike Cruiser, but I don't know if it is a Monterey...

urnews

Stunning 1958 Mercury, maybe a Montclair?

imidazol97

The didn't all have four headlights at that time. What was the difference in who had them and who didn't.

texases

The writeup I saw had this (the Turnpike Cruiser) as a high-end model, all with quad headlights. In '58 it was demoted to a trim level. The '57 had lots of interesting features, like memory power seats and the ventilation you can see at the top of the windshield (tended to leak, though).

andys120

No offense Shifty but Moretti is awful beer IMO, the Italians should stick to wine and the Germans should stick to beer.

Moretti did make some nice cars, most were Fiat-based. The car shown was sold as a Moretti 1600GS Sportiva or a Fiat 125 GS Special, it was 125-based as you can imagine. My previous statement that the car wasn't sold as a Fiat is..uh..inoperative.

If you look closely, the red coupe has both Fiat badging in the grille and a Moretti badge below the side vents. :confuse:

Moretti used the nose and/or front fender styling of the Dino Spider on several different models of the era.

Mr_Shiftright

An American calling some other country's beer "awful"? Well I never!

Moretti is a very light beer, so some find it wimpy that's true. I like the taste, but it's not the best beer by any means. Beats that yuppie swill though.

ateixeira

Why is Toyota creating these huge blind spots?

First the FJ, then the xB, now the Matrix? Isn't seeing out of the car a factor in their design at all?

I bet the backup cam is a popular option, you pretty much have to get it! :sick:

imidazol97

>ventilation you can see at the top of the windshield

I'd forgotten those two spaceage things in the chrome were air intakes. Thanks for mentioning it.

this is a car I haven't seen at a car show this (last) summer.

texases

And it's hard to see in this picture, but those two openings have fake antennas sticking out of them...wierd.

andys120

karsick

.... with those skinny tires & jacked-up tail, it had to be a Citroen derivative!
Is it a Namco Pony Citroen (built in Greece) :confuse:

andys120

Namco Pony Citroen (built in Greece)

That's a new one on me but it's probably related to the Citroen Mehari shown. The Mehari looks like a French VW Thing but unlike the Thing it has real off-road capability, IIRC there is a military version.

andys120

imidazol97

andys120

Top row: '56 Oldsmobile, '58 Edsel, 54 Chrsler (or Imperial)

Bottom row: '57 Mercury, '59 Mercury, '60 Chevy.

I could be off by a year on any of these, except the last two.

imidazol97

The Olds is a 57 instead of 56. The 58 Edsel is right on.
The top right is off in years and off in car model!

The 57 Merc is right. The 59 is a ??? Look again. Did you mean to say Mercury or was that because you just typed Mercury...?

The 60 Chev is right on.

fintail

Top right - '51 Ford. Bottom middle - '59 Ford.

imidazol97

Right. Right.

oregonboy

These are being ignored, so I will say that they are the all-new 2008 Subaru Imprezas. Judging by the wheels and hood scoop, the silver one is an STi, (or WRX). The black one, with lesser wheels must then be a WRX, (or 2.5i)

I hope that they have finally settled on a front facia "look". It seems they were changing it every year for about 4 years.

james

andys120

Yep, the silver car is the new 2008 Subaru Impreza WRX STI. I'm not sure if the black one is also an STI with different wheels or the "plain" WRX.