Wow that Positano Yellow is a real looker. :P I had a 1980 in that cream color that 90 % of all Spiders came in. With a little wax it would almost become a beautiful shade of dull.
I remember the HF model had 62hp and the middle model (I forget the model designation, was it just called the "base"?) had 92hp.
At the time, the HF was $300 cheaper, but 30hp for $300 sounds like a bargain at $10/horse.
I considered the Civic Si, the Swift GT, but ended up with a 91 Ford Escort GT. It had 127hp, which was a lot for a cheap hatch at the time, and more torque than my other choices. The powertrain held up well but the interior had pieces falling off and the motorized mice seatbelts drove my passengers nuts.
Did they have a model between the 210 and the 510/Maxima?
They had the 310, but maybe that was the FWD model? I get them all mixed up, because I know they had a ton of 'em back in those days...
F10 (early FWD attempt, and I think only offered as a 2-door/3-door) 210 (pretty much a full-range RWD subcompact) 310 (IIRC another FWD model...had a clunky 4-door hatchback, but also had the Pulsar) 510 (4 door sedan/hatchback and wagon models, but were they still offering 2-doors by this time?) 610 (I think this one was just a coupe offering?) 810/Maxima (4-door sedan and wagon by 1981, although earlier models offered a hardtop coupe)
And then the 200SX and 280Z thrown in for good measure.
Did they ever have a 710? I seem to recall the 610 was just offered as a coupe. Wonder if there was a 410 or a 910?
Wasn't the B210 the earlier model? I seem to recall it being offered as a 2 or 4-door, and having single round headlights and a honeycomb grille. And tended to be offered only in those typical economy car colors like orange and yellow. I think it was offered up through '78, and then the more conventional 210 was a 1979-82 model with rectangular headlights, followed by the FWD Sentra in '83?
Your recollection is pretty good. All "Datsun" products were RWD except for the F10/310 (Cherry in Japan).
The B210 became the 210 which was replaced by the Nissan Sentra in 1982.
The F10 (the first US-market FWD Datsun) was offered in two 2-door body styles: hatchback and wagon. It was replaced by the less bizarre looking 310 (the US only had the two 2-door hatchback body styles) and was eventually replaced by the Nissan Pulsar.
The 510 was the mid-sized model in five body styles as I recall including 2-door coupe, 2-door hatchback, 4-door sedan, 4-door hatchback, and 4-door wagon. It ran until replaced by the Nissan Stanza in 1983.
There were 610 and 710 models, but I don't recall them being very popular.
The 810 became the 810 Maxima and then evenutally just Maxima.
Hmm, this is pretty interesting...looks like the Datsun 710 was slotted below the 610! I found this old ad for the '74 Datsun 710...
I always thought that as you went up through the numbers, the cars were supposed to be more upscale!
I also found an ad for the 610, but it won't open online. Rather, it downloads to your desktop. But it was offered as a hardtop coupe, 4-door pillared sedan, and a wagon. Maybe the 610 came first, and then the 810 replaced it? And the 710 just might not have ever gone anywhere, because they already had the 510?
My dad bought a late (1976) 610 with 80K on it out of an estate for $100. The bodywork is shameless tin can quality, but the engine is an amusing little sewing machine.
Is it the logo for the Frazer automobile? The story told by Joe Frazer is that he caught heck from his relatives back in Scotland for using the family crest on his cars.
I can't recall ever seeing a 610 coupe on the road...before my time. When I was in high school in the mid 90s, I knew a girl who had a 710 coupe, but it was a beater...although it was usually reliable.
What sticks in my mind about my dad's Datsun is that it is scary at 60mph...paper-thin sheetmetal, lack of power, and a somewhat floaty ride had me somewhat worried.
There was a coupe version of that '59 in the family for a few years. My older brother got stuck with it for a while and hated it because it had no power. When I drove it, I took a special route from home through the neighborhood. If I ran the stop sign, I knew I had to scrub over to the curb and add some brake fluid to it.
but I don't remember! Did we ever get a consensus on what that little Datsun-looking wagon was a few posts back? WAS it an '81 210?
As for that Johnny Cash "One Piece at a Time" inspired '57/58/59 Chevy-looking Corvette, considering what they had to work with, I don't think it's half-bad looking.
I'm impressed with how well the '58 portion of the car and the '59 portion blend together. The '59 Chevy was an all-new design, but from seeing that conversion above, it looks like, if Chevy had really wanted to, they could have made the '59 rear-end work on the '58 body shell. Although from what I've read, before the all-new '59 Chevy was green-lighted, some of the stuff they had planned for an update of the '58 body was pretty grotesque. They were actually working towards a "central" theme, along the lines of the Edsel, or the third headlight on the Tucker. I shudder to think what could have been! :surprise:
The little Datsun is an '80 210, it was featured in the 'Down on the Street' segment of Jalopnik...I won't link to it as I suspect the censors would object, but google it...I think you would enjoy the material.
I don't understand your comment. People link to Jalopnik all the time around here, both in editorial and in the forums. This vehicle was written about in the last ten days, using photos from them:
If you're just here to promote something, then we'll clean it out (aka keeping the world free of spam, one discussion at a time). I didn't think they had forums anyway, just blogs.
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I think it is an Alfa ('63 Giulia TI?) and sorry Fin but those are Fiat 124 sedans, not 125s, .;)
The Spider wears a Turin plate (TO=Torino) and the white Fiat berlina wears a Roman Plate (ROma=Rome).
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
It's kinda funny, how with that era of 210, the other bodystyles seem like diminutive little things, but the wagon actually seems a bit large-ish.
I remember the HF model had 62hp and the middle model (I forget the model designation, was it just called the "base"?) had 92hp.
At the time, the HF was $300 cheaper, but 30hp for $300 sounds like a bargain at $10/horse.
I considered the Civic Si, the Swift GT, but ended up with a 91 Ford Escort GT. It had 127hp, which was a lot for a cheap hatch at the time, and more torque than my other choices. The powertrain held up well but the interior had pieces falling off and the motorized mice seatbelts drove my passengers nuts.
Did they have a model between the 210 and the 510/Maxima?
They had the 310, but maybe that was the FWD model? I get them all mixed up, because I know they had a ton of 'em back in those days...
F10 (early FWD attempt, and I think only offered as a 2-door/3-door)
210 (pretty much a full-range RWD subcompact)
310 (IIRC another FWD model...had a clunky 4-door hatchback, but also had the Pulsar)
510 (4 door sedan/hatchback and wagon models, but were they still offering 2-doors by this time?)
610 (I think this one was just a coupe offering?)
810/Maxima (4-door sedan and wagon by 1981, although earlier models offered a hardtop coupe)
And then the 200SX and 280Z thrown in for good measure.
Did they ever have a 710? I seem to recall the 610 was just offered as a coupe. Wonder if there was a 410 or a 910?
I do remember that the 210 coupe looked a LOT different than the B210, which a friend of mine owned. The B stood for Bizarre, I think.
My 210 was very conventional looking.
Too bad it didn't make enough power to let you enjoy the RWD.
The B210 became the 210 which was replaced by the Nissan Sentra in 1982.
The F10 (the first US-market FWD Datsun) was offered in two 2-door body styles: hatchback and wagon. It was replaced by the less bizarre looking 310 (the US only had the two 2-door hatchback body styles) and was eventually replaced by the Nissan Pulsar.
The 510 was the mid-sized model in five body styles as I recall including 2-door coupe, 2-door hatchback, 4-door sedan, 4-door hatchback, and 4-door wagon. It ran until replaced by the Nissan Stanza in 1983.
There were 610 and 710 models, but I don't recall them being very popular.
The 810 became the 810 Maxima and then evenutally just Maxima.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
I always thought that as you went up through the numbers, the cars were supposed to be more upscale!
I also found an ad for the 610, but it won't open online. Rather, it downloads to your desktop. But it was offered as a hardtop coupe, 4-door pillared sedan, and a wagon. Maybe the 610 came first, and then the 810 replaced it? And the 710 just might not have ever gone anywhere, because they already had the 510?
It is indeed, our family's first car was a 1947 Frazer 4-door.
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The 610 retained an independent rear (like the original 510), whereas the 710 had to make do with a live axle on leafs.
The knock on the late-70's 510 was that they again cheaped out on the suspension (tarnishing the original Five & Dime's rep).
IMO The coolest of the mid-70's Datsuns (other than a Z) would be a 610 Coupe.
What sticks in my mind about my dad's Datsun is that it is scary at 60mph...paper-thin sheetmetal, lack of power, and a somewhat floaty ride had me somewhat worried.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
It's a 1953-1954 Arnolt-MG.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
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See: http://www.n2amotors.com/cars-789.html Also available as a coupe.
As for that Johnny Cash "One Piece at a Time" inspired '57/58/59 Chevy-looking Corvette, considering what they had to work with, I don't think it's half-bad looking.
I'm impressed with how well the '58 portion of the car and the '59 portion blend together. The '59 Chevy was an all-new design, but from seeing that conversion above, it looks like, if Chevy had really wanted to, they could have made the '59 rear-end work on the '58 body shell. Although from what I've read, before the all-new '59 Chevy was green-lighted, some of the stuff they had planned for an update of the '58 body was pretty grotesque. They were actually working towards a "central" theme, along the lines of the Edsel, or the third headlight on the Tucker. I shudder to think what could have been! :surprise:
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No guesses on the not quite in production rig?
The future car is a CTS wagon...maybe higher gas prices will make wagons come back.
They are back(and raised the a few inches) , we just call them crossovers now because no one wants to be seen in a station wagon.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
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Gas will get expensive enough so crossovers become unappealing too. Then we'll be back to real wagons.
Yeah, like Charles Ingall's buckboard.