Mystery car pix

andys120

I think the last good Rollies were from the early 60s. It was all downhill from there.

Haven't you criticized the Clouds for being too dowdy and lacking coachbuilt bodywork (or something like that)?

stephen987

If the Cloud merits such criticism, then the Dawn should as well, since it was the first Rolls to have a "standard" body style produced in-house.

Mr_Shiftright

Well those are just subjective judgements on my part---but lousy reliability and some goofy engineering would not be so subjective.

Actually, to be really fair about it, those lovely coachbuilt bodies were not very durable and they fell apart pretty quickly, succumbing to corrosion and metal fatigue. A standard steel saloon body from the factory was no doubt much more rugged.

stephen987

Agreed. The "Pressed Steel" bodies of the Dawn/R and Cloud/S are pretty stout, and more easily restored than the coachbuilt wonders--some of which depended heavily on wood framing, etc.

berri

For my money the '46-'47 Caddy was a handsomer car than the 1950 which looks a bit dowdy to me.

I think that 49 Caddy redesign didn't really look good until around 54 when they cleaned it up with a more upscale and delicate grill as well as other exterior and interior refinements. But then, Lincoln and Chrysler didn't really have much to compete, so GM probably put the money elsewhere.

Mr_Shiftright

I love the Cadillac fastback with the rear wiper---was that a '49? Gorgeous car. (not the one in the picture)

ghulet

the early '50s Cadillacs look more than a little elephantine, what with the smallish wheels and the almost fender-skirt quality of the front fender design, combined with the new 'fins' and the buldgy rear fenders. The '46-48s were very clean. The '49 was a ground-breaking design (and Coupe deVille the first two-door hardtop), though.

andys120

stephen987

Glas coupe--2600GT?

andys120

Glas coupe--2600GT?

Close, it's the larger engined version a 1969 Glas 3000GT which like the 2600 had a little jewel of a V8 engine and Frua bodywork. Because of the Frua bodywork which was similar to the Masertai Sebring and Mexico they were known as "Glaseratis". After 1966 Glas was a wholly owned subsidiary of BMW and they were badged as "BMW-Glas" in many markets and wore the roundel on the nose, tail and wheel convers>



IIRC Glas cars were never officially sold in the USA.

Mr_Shiftright

I saw the classic Frua "lip" on the grille but wasn't sure about the car. But now that I know it makes perfect sense in terms of styling and association.

Not a terribly attractive car from the windshield forward, but most Frua bodies are an acquired taste.

andys120

It's a shame that BMW stopped at adding a few roundels, that'd be a tasty looking car with a proper BMW kidney grille and round headlights instead of that hideous Glas front clip.

andys120

stephen987

Dodge Dynasty, ca. 1990? I used to sell them back in the day. . .

andys120

Dodge Dynasty, ca. 1990?

Yup, the K-Car masquarading as a Luxury car.

lemko

they called that the Sedanette.

stephen987

Sort of. It's a K-car only in the sense that all front-drive Chrysler products built before the Concorde/Intrepid/300M are K-cars.

This is an actual K-car masquerading as a luxury car.

lemko

Here's the ultimate K-car masquerading as a luxury car!

berri

Just goes to show you that it isn't just the Ford UAW workers that are dumb sometimes, consumers can be idiots too! Of course the consumer is just out a car, longer term Ford UAW voting down parity will probably be losing some more jobs.

andys120

Mr_Shiftright

Renault 5 Turbo -- zowie---this car can run like the wind. Hang on!

kyfdx

My head knows this.... but, my heart screams out, Le Car!!

I rented a Dynasty on a Florida trip around '88... not a bad car for that time period.. had a Mitsu V-6, I think..

Mr_Shiftright

Think of Renault as a powerhouse racing entity, not a carmaker, and you'll be fine with it!

andys120

stephen987

The lovely, carefully restrained BMW 3-series wagon, the E30 iteration to be specific. Probably a 316i or 318i Touring--I doubt the RHD markets other than Oz would've bought many of the six-cylinder versions.

stephen987

magnette

Standard Gazelle, which was the four door Triumph Herald made only in India. They made it until about 1980, and this is one of the later ones, because the bonnet was like the early Herald until the mid seventies, long after our Heralds had gone over to the slant-edge bonnet which looked more like the Vitesse.

That's a Mahindra Jeep behind it.

stephen987

Well played, sir. It's a Standard Gazel Mk2.

andys120

Probably a 316i or 318i Touring

Yup, an E30 BMW 318i Touring, a sweet little number never exported to the USA, ca. '80s-early '90s.

Mr_Shiftright

Can anyone name another automaker who used the model name of "Gazelle"?

stephen987

Two, at least.





I guess Standard of India used the variant spelling "Gazel" to avoid trademark issues under British Commonwealth regulations. Probably moot though--I think Singer as a brand was pretty much gone by 1970, and no one would've mistaken the Standard for the roadster from Fiberfab/CMC.

Mr_Shiftright

man, that's a hard thing to look at early in the morning :sick:

Mr_Shiftright

What were they thinking? They got the styling all wrong, mixing up different eras that are 30 years apart, utilizing bad proportions and exhibiting a pretty apparent ignorance of car design in general. It looks like a 60s Lincoln front end welded to a 40s Triumph 1800 roadster, with an 80s golf cart bumper and wheels from a 70s Pinto, and seating from an airport lounge.

texases

And don't forget the convertible top with all the integrity of a Coleman tent knock-off. Looks like something I could make in my garage over a weekend... :sick:

andys120

Emblems and moldings have been removed but the basic look is steill there>

bumpy

another gazelle:

bumpy

Early-mid '50s F-series. I'm too lazy to look up the grille.

michaellno

I don't know the exact year, either, but I do know my dad owned a '53 Ford when I was real young. Was black and in not that great of condition, IIRC (hey, I was only 6 when he got rid of it).

This was the truck he had before buying the '70 C-10 that he still owns.

imidazol97

>Emblems and moldings have been removed

They removed the springs too. I never like that look.

andys120

It's a '56 Ford F100

bumpy

No one wants to take a whack at the silver one? Maybe y'all need a hint.

vcheng

andys120

I'm pretty sure that's a scale model.

tom1sharon2

The wrap around windshield and vertical A-pillar would indicate it's a 1956 ford.

boomchek

They're both Nissans. The first one an early 200SX, the other one the same, but also called the Sylvia in some markets.

bumpy

First one is a S12 coupe, sold as a Silvia or Gazelle in Japan, a Gazelle in Australia, or a 200SX in Europe and North America.

Second one is the vastly-improved S13 coupe: Silvia in Japan, 200SX in Europe and (with a botched nose job) 240SX in North America.

Mr_Shiftright

Shoulda left the trim on. Taking it off makes the truck look like one big lump of something.

Never de-chrome a TALL vehicle---that's my motto. (don't get to use that motto, often, but hey...).

Mr_Shiftright

magnette

This looks like a Gatso, which was built in Holland in the late 40's, but the only onesof that model I've seen illustrated had a sort of bubble roof, of perspex or something, and clearly this is a roadster. And this is RHD...

Anyway, that's my guess.

EDIT - actually I think they also called it a Gatford?

andys120

Gatso Gatsonides/Gatso