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  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    I believe so. The Scotsman also had "blackout" trim such as painted hubcaps and cardboard door liners. There's cheap and then there's really cheap.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I think they had only one armrest, too, and maybe one sun visor.
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Here's Wikipedia's take on the Scotsman:

    Studebaker Scotsman
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Interesting. I didn't realize it sold as well as it did (for Studebaker I mean).

    In a way, a perfect marriage. Even today, Studebaker collectors have a reputation (deserved or not I don't know) of being the penny-pinchers of the old car hobby.

    I remember those overdrive transmissions---Borg Warners---you operated them by pushing on a cable to engage, and out, to disengage. You could downshift out of overdrive while moving, by flooring the gas pedal (triggering a switch) and then pulling on the cable really fast. You got good mileage, but you also free-wheeled in overdrive.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,233
    edited April 2010
    It is a Renault 12 - and yes to the Ford Corsair Crayford convertible. However the Cortina with the gold panel on it is actually a wood-trimmed estate - it seems to have been lowered which makes it look more sporty
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,233
    Yes to the Ford Galaxie and also to kyfdx with the TR3. And fintail is also right with that Lancia - its an Appia - I think the doors give it away.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,233
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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,233
    Yes, it's a cab - but what make is it?

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Armstrong-Siddeley Sapphire, ca. 1950s.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Looks like a Lada to me.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Not quite what it seems

    So it's not a Dolomite? :confuse:

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  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Well, it's not a Dolomite Sprint--sure looks like a plain ol' Triumph Dolomite though.
  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    I was thinking the grille looked like a Mk2 Cortina--but the rest of the vehicle is WAY off. . .
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,233
    Its an Armstrong Siddeley Star Sapphire - late 50's - last of the line, they stopped selling cars in 1960...
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,233
    Its not any type of Dolomite - mechanically this car is more advanced, but earlier...
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,233
    edited April 2010
    Despite the Cortina type grille, it isn't a Ford, though most of them had a Ford Transit type diesel engine. London has a very specific specification for its taxis, concerning dimensions, turning circle (25 feet) etc....For years before and especially after WW2 the market was dominated by Austin, with a succession of cabs, culminating in the FX4 - the typical London taxi (you can see one to the left of this shot). There were several other makers though - Beardmore in the pre and immediate post war era, and Nuffield (Morris) built something called the Oxford taxi, based on a Wolseley chassis, in the late 40's. Until the late 90's Austin pretty much had it to themselves, though - except this...
    It's a Winchester - they built two versions, the first was curvy and really old fashioned even by cab standards, but this Mk2 came along in about 1969, and they made at least a hundred or so by about 1972. I think the firm also made van conversions and hearses, at about the same time. Hardly any left now, but I can remember them running in everyday service in London when I first moved here in the late 70's.
  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Perhaps it's the FWD Triumph 1300 Mk2 then?
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,233
    Near enough - its a Triumph 1500. The 1300 was of course FWD and when that was replaced by the 1500 in 1970 it was also FWD. However, Triumph then brought out the Toledo which was visually the old 1300 size bodyshell, and that was RWD, and so was the Dolomite which came along in 1971.
    The 1500 was still FWD until 1973, when it was replaced by the RWD 1500TC, which looked exactly the same as this but for some badges. A few months after that the Toledo and 1500TC were subsumed into the Dolomite family, and all of them were RWD so the 1300 and original 1500 were the only FWD cars of this shape. It must be pretty rare for a mainstream small car in Europe at that time to revert to RWD from a well established FWD, which was by then the norm for such cars over here.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,233
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  • vchengvcheng Member Posts: 1,284
    Peugeot Convertible from the 60s?
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,467
    Is it some kind of big Fiat? Definitely looks like a Pininfarina design, photo is in Germany.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    I'm afraid Vcheng has been fooled by the resemblance between various Pininfarina cabriolet designs of the early 60s but that's a Fiat 1200/1500/1600Spider quite a few of which were made in that period but IIRC the only one we saw much of in the US was the 1200 Spider which was replaced in '68 by the 124 Spider (1300).

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,233
    Yes its a Fiat 1500 - and fintail is also right as it is in Frankfurt - I saw it when I was over there last Autumn for the Motor Show.
  • vchengvcheng Member Posts: 1,284
    Well, at least I tried! :) I was fooled into thinking that the logo on the grill was the prancing lion. Apparently my eyes are not as good as they used to be! :)
  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    Our first roadster was this Fiat's little brother, a 1200 Spider, Black, Black, Black with Red inserts. Bought it new Oct '63 for $2270 and sold it May '67 for $1350 incl the factory metal hardtop. Fun little car as long as you kept it off the track. Around town, 2nd was the go gear. Great little commuter car. Paint was outstanding & I kept it that way. :):)
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,462
    Is that enough?

    OK, I will say 1964 Falcon. Unless it is a mercury comet. Or something else.

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  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    '64 Falcon Futura hardtop.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    That's right Stephen.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    You can tell by the little fender tag down low on the left front fender.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,126
    Had one of those 'bring what you got' car shows this weekend. About 100 cars, from stock Model A to a donked '73 Olds '88 (parked next to an original Mini) to lots of new Camaros and Mustangs. This one I hadn't sees before:
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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    The red one is an Intermeccanica Italia (powered by Ford 302) ca. '71-'73.

    Blue '66 or '67 Chevelle or Malibu behind it.

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,126
    You got 'em. While the Italia I saw looked just like this one, I didn't get a photo.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    They made 411 coupes and convertible Italias. A really nice one (convertible) could pull down $50K.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    No answer yet on #25053?

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  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Siata 208S?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Siata 208S?

    Close but no cigar, it's a 1952 Siata Daina Sport which used a four cylinder 1500CC four from Fiat rather than the 2 liter Otto Vu (V8) in the larger 208S.
    It's often misspelled as "Diana". There was an open cabriolet version known as the Daina Gran Sport 1400 that used a slightly smaller motor. Bodies for both were usually done by Farina but Bertone did some of the late ones..

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  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I will guess that is the previous Hyundai Equus, from the hood ornament.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,467
    Heavy dose of early LS there...yeah, that amusing hood ornament has to be Equus.
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Both ateixeira and you are correct. I think it also looks a bit like mid-2000s Crown Vic. The rear of the car has taillights that remind me of 1989 Chrysler New Yorker.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    There's lot of Mercedes S-Class (W-126 1979-91) in that Equus, the same car that Toyota copied in the Lexus LS400.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Not a very good image but if it was you'd quickly figure it out>:P

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  • boomchekboomchek Member Posts: 5,516
    That's a 70s NSU Ro80

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,467
    A locally provided car, HN being the prefix for the area where NSU was located.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    NSU AG was located in Neckarsulm near Stuttgart. I wouldn't know about the license code.

    The RO80 was a Wankel-pioneer (Dr. Wankel worked at NSU) and also a tem0plate for the aero-styling adopted by Audi in the late 70s thru present.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,467
    HN = Heilbronn, the name of both a city and kind of the German equivalent of a county, where Neckarsulm is located (German license plate prefixes are some useless knowledge I have lately decided to learn :shades: )

    I am shocked to know the Ro80 was actually sold in the US for at least a few years. Must have been hellish for the few who bought them - temparamental car with pretty much no service network.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I knew a guy who bought one new. It was a disaster for him. Of course, he was something of a disaster himself, so in a way, a perfect marriage. :P
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