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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    I am not aware of any official US imports, in fact I've never laid eyes on an actual
    Ro80. Perhaps Shifty's friend bought a grey market car, wittingly or unwittingly.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,469
    edited April 2010
    I have seen a few photos of Ro80s with US-spec headlight assemblies. They might have just sold in the dozens or less.

    There's one shown in this 'Project Car Hell' installment

    And the same car here
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I think you could buy them here. They were bought out by VW in 1969, so it's possible they were marketed that way. My friend bought his new, I know that, because he had the engine replaced under warranty.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,682
    edited April 2010
    1962 Ford Fairlane 500 Town Sedan
    260 cu in V8 145 horsepower

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    1962 Ford Fairlane 500 Town Sedan
    260 cu in V8 145 horsepowe


    Works for me.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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  • wgraferwgrafer Member Posts: 592
    Looks like a 1972 Mercury - maybe a Colony Park?? The wheel covers
    just don't seem right...
  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,402
    I agree. They look like Fords.
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    They are from a late '70s Ford truck, hence the centers. A similar wheel cover was used on 1971-72 full-sized Fords. My Dad's 1972 Ford LTD had them.
  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,602
    1962 Ford Fairlane 500 Town Sedan
    260 cu in V8 145 horsepower

    Works for me.


    Almost works for me. The V8 in this one is the 221 cu in one. I think that the 145 horsepower is right. IIRC, the 260 had 164 horses.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    The V8 in this one is the 221 cu in one.

    Right, the small block 221 was originally known as the "Fairlane engine". It was later enlarged to the 260/289/302 sizes used in everything from Falcons to trucks.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,682
    Was there a different emblem on the side for the 260 cu in engine? Both were offered during 1962.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited April 2010
    Was there a different emblem on the side for the 260 cu in engine? Both were offered during 1962.

    There was an emblem for the 260 which was an elongated Vee with checkers in the crook of the Vee and "260"above it but I don't know if it came out in '62. It was prevalent on Mustangs and Falcons so equipped as well as Fairlanes but I don't know when it first appeared. The same emblem was used with appropriate numerals for 289 V8s with the words "High-Performance" appearing on cars with the Hi-Po version (271 HP.) 302 cars got different emblems.

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  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    For '62 my book does not list the 260, but it does include the 352, 390, & 406 for the Galaxie models.

    For '63 the 260 IS listed for the Galaxie, but perhaps a very late '62 could of had one of the 260's.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    For '62 my book does not list the 260, but it does include the 352, 390, & 406 for the Galaxie models.

    For '63 the 260 IS listed for the Galaxie, but perhaps a very late '62 could of had one of the 260's.


    145nhp is not a lot of motor for a big tank like a '63 Galaxie but I s'pose it could have been the base motor for no frills cars. Cars equipped with 390/406 and later 427 motors got a stylized black Thunderbird fender badge with the appropos numbers on it.

    I can't seem to find a good source for these fender emblems that were common in the 60s to indicate which motor a car had but I do have a small personal collection.

    In those days you kept a sharp eye out for them because the most innocuous looking Dodge could be packing a 413 Hemi or the stripper Biscayne could have a 409 etc Fast car types back then were well aware that stripper sedans and coupes were considerably lighter than their fancy hardtop brethern and therefore faster off the line.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Did you know that all Mopar 426 Hemi coupes are actually convertible bodies with a roof welded on?

    The regular coupe bodies could not take the torque.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,682
    >In those days you kept a sharp eye out for them because the most innocuous looking Dodge

    Is there a web site that documents these badges? I had a 260 '62 Fairlane that we bought used.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,682
    >actually convertible bodies with a roof welded on

    Interesting fact. :)

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

    Is there a web site that documents these badges?


    If there is I couldn't find it.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,970
    '69 Ford Ranchero?

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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I'm going to guess 72 Ranchero because the front end looks like the one on the 72 fastback I really liked. Of course, I liked it so it was toast in a couple of years replaced by the Starsky & Hutch notchback design.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Sorry Kyfdx, Berri has the correct year, It's a 1972 Ford Ranchero GT-351

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,970
    edited April 2010
    '68 Mercedes 230 (250?).. (total guess on the year, but I think I'm in the right ballpark..)

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,469
    Yeah it's some kind of W114/115 - as it is a Euro spec car it's tough to guess a year as we can't use the DOT tacked-on crap to make a guess.
  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Mercedes-Benz W114/115, could be anywhere between 1968 and 1975. Could be a 200/220/230/250/280, though it appears to be low-spec (no fog lights or alloys), which somewhat increases the likelihood of a smaller engine and thus a smaller numeric designation.
  • wgraferwgrafer Member Posts: 592
    Kind of reminds me of a taxi in the Bahamas in the mid 70's. I remember being really impressed when I saw the very highly polished Mercedes Taxi pull up, but as we drove along it was a real let-down with the plainest interior I'd seen in a while. It got worse with no AC and the somewhat sticky 'leatherette' seats. Not a good combo in the Tropics :cry: But it's probably still in service...
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    It's a 1974 Mercedes 230/4. My Dad had a '72 Merc 240 that looked just like it. Nice looking car but slow, ponderous and ergonomically cockeyed. I think the A/C worked though.

    The example shown is from South Africa (I don't know if they have local plants.)

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Can you shrink your black limo? Thanks.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,126
    70-ish Maserati Ghibli Spyder?
  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Could be--definitely something from Frua--my guess is a Monteverdi.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Frua, like most Italian coachbuilders of the era tended to copy/repeat himself a lot.
    The Monteverdi 375 was very similar to the Ghibli, especially from the side but the giveaway that the car shown is a Maser comes from the wheels (Abarth Elecktron alloys?) and the relatively shot amount of bodywork forward of the front wheels.

    Monteverdi 375 Spider by Frua.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    AC ME3000
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    You nailed it Stephen, ca. 1979-'84.

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  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,602
    It looks to me like a 1960 Falcon stuffed a 1966 Dodge Coronet, pushing it into a 1964 Chevy (Impala?)

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Pretty close, the Falcon's a '61 and the Chevy's a Bel Air according to imcdb.com. ;)

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  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,402
    AMC AMX?
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,772
    AMC Javelin. i like those front half vinyl roofs better than the back half ones most cars had.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,464
    70-3 era. Could be an AMX since I think it was just a trim package mostly at that point.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    You guys have the right idea, it's a '72 AMC Javelin AMX.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,970
    It's an Alfa! :blush:

    No idea which model, though.. Is that one supposed to come here?

    Is it a 4-door hatch?

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  • wgraferwgrafer Member Posts: 592
    It's the new 2011 Alfa Romeo Giullieta 5-door hatchback. I hope it comes here as it looks pretty good! But how do you open the back doors????
  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    But how do you open the back doors????

    I'll bet the door handles are in the C-pillar - can't see them because they're black.
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