Mystery car pix

andys120

tmart

57 Ford wagon, bug, ???, bug, 60 Ford Falcon.

stickguy

I have no clue what that funny furrin car in between the 2 beetles is either. But man, parked out by a Mongtomery Wards. Long time since anyone saw one of those.

uplanderguy

I'm late to the party, but that New York photo shows a '68 Biscayne or Bel Air wagon, and the '68 Chevelle is either a 300 or 300 Deluxe as it sure looks to me like a pillared coupe and that bodystyle was not offered on a Malibu or Concours that year.

tmart

Are we talking about the same picture? I sure don't see any Chevys.

andys120

That Chevelle looks like a pillarless H/T to me, I don't see a B-post. There is a vertical line but it's flush with the windows and besides would someone order a low-line and order a vinyl top? Could you even do that?

andys120

We're still missing the ID of the little subcompact parked between the VWs. That's not surprising since few were imported but it was a big seller in Europe.

Here's a better look at one>



Also what's that mid-50s MoPar visible behind the umbrella?

magnette

on your supplementary photo of a white Renault 4CV /750 there is a pink Peugeot 403 convertible, of the sort Columbo used to drive, a Volvo Amazon, a Jag, which I think is a 420 rather than an S-type or a MkII, and a grey Citroen 2C which looks like a base version without the extra window behind the rear doors.
The Renault and I think the Volvo appear to have either Swedish or Finnish plates plates.

uplanderguy

I'll look again at the pic, but you could definitely get a vinyl top on the two-door sedan cheapo model. In fact, the rooflines are about the same, as is the cut of the rear quarter window; just that the one body style has frames around the glass and of course a "B" pillar.

Our older neighbor lady bought a new 1973 Chevelle Deluxe four-door sedan, white, full wheel covers. blackwalls, no radio and a black vinyl top. She ordered it.

andys120

Yup, that's it, the weird little car between the two VWs was a Renault 4CV which had an engine a little more than half the size of the Beetle's (750cc vs 1200). The 4CV was the first French car to sell a million units.

Although not many were sent to the US it was made in seven countries including Japan where they were built under license by Hino Motors.

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stickguy

It's an Alfa from the 60's. Other than that, no clue to the model.

fintail

And a late model Ferrari behind it :shades:

jlindh

Berlina.

magnette

Alfa Giulia Berlina 1600 - and I think its the 1600 Super rather than the 1600TI which had a chrome strip running from the middle of the bonnet towards the windscreen. It is earlier than the 1967 facelift as that introduced smaller spot/fog lights, that didn't reach the top or bottom chrome bar of the grille, I think, and it isn't likely to be a 1300 because they had a different grille,as did the later 1600.

No idea about the blazing wreck, although the most obvious thought - that it was a FIat, is unlikely as the boot lid is wrong for any Fiat I can think of. I thought either a Ford Cortina MkI a German Ford Taunus 12M (?) or possibly a Simca 1300 /1500.

Plate on the Alfa indicates Naples

andys120

You're obviously knowledgeable about these cars but FWIW at IMCDB they think it's a 1963 Alfa-Romeo Giulia TI link to imcdb.org

The Mechanic (1972) features Charles Bronson pushing that car or a similar one over a very steep cliff using a bucket loader.

The Giulias of that era are my favorite Alfa Berlinas, I like them better than contemporary BMWs.

I can't make out the blazing wreck, could be anything IMO.

magnette

The Guilia was available in 63, and pretty unchanged until 67. I always thought the TI was only available with the chrome strip down the bonnet but they may well be right. We never saw enough of them anyway - and I've just found a picture supposed to be of a Super that does have the chrome strip down the bonnet, in 1966, which would be proof I was wrong...

andys120

lemko

That's a circa 1984-85 Ford LTD based on the Fox platform versus the LTD Crown Victoria that was the Panther platform.

andys120

Eggzactly!

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robr2

1978+ Dodge Challenger. Also sold as the Plymouth Sapporo.

All Mitsubishi underneath though.

ateixeira

My roommate's sister had a Sapporo. We borrowed it once for a snow skiing trip.

Not bad, but not very memorable.

andys120

Yup it's an '84 Dodge Challenger by Mitsubishi.

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andre1969

I'm late to this game, but I think that's a '56 Plymouth 4-door parked over on the other side, partially hidden by the trash can. I'd guess a low-line model, like a Plaza or Savoy.

berri

Neat picture. I'll take a few guesses. 59 Plymouth wagon and 61 Impala bubbletop. Blue 47 or 48 Mopar of some kind. Falcon Ranchero. Some kind of 49 or early 50's GM fastback, maybe a Chevy? 55 Chevy wagon. 58 Ford. The next two are 49 or early 50's Mopars, maybe a Plymouth and a DeSoto? 55 Ford wagon.

andys120

fintail

Triumph Renown ~1950, probably in Oz guessing by the architecture

andys120

Yep, it's a Triumph Renown Saloon (R-R wannabee).

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ateixeira

Looks like Subaru took revenge on VW, and slapped one of their raised suspensions on an old Vanogon, since a lot VWs have taken donor engines from Subarus.

robr2

Looks like a Land Rover Defender frame. Did LR every make a van??

andys120

Sorry guys, there's no VW or Subaru in that one.

fintail

Something Soviet with a cryptic capital letter name

wgrafer

Well, you got most of them, but the white wagon on the extreme right is a '56 (not '55) Ford Wagon. This pic makes me want to arrange an immediate fun trip to Tijuana. I can almost smell the salsa.....

andre1969

This pic makes me want to arrange an immediate fun trip to Tijuana. I can almost smell the salsa.....

Just make sure you take your penicilin and your raincoats :P

andys120

Something Soviet with a cryptic capital letter name

You're getting warm Finnie. I may be wrong but I think it's related to this one ("Jeep" body replaced w van?)>



Don't you love the happy Soviets in the brochure art? :shades:

boomchek

Haha, I know what it is from an article earlier today elsewhere. I remember those Jeep type SUVs when I was young.

berri

Just make sure you take your penicilin and your raincoats

Sadly, the heat you need to pack down there these days is of the old fashioned metal variety.

robr2

Just make sure you take your penicilin and your raincoats

A raincoat?? Why would I bring a raincoat to sunny Tiajuana??

OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH. Now I get it.

:P

stever

andys120

2012 Ford Escape?

stever

No, a 2012 Honda CR-V.

Okay, that's a lie.

Pretty bad these days when not only do all sedans look alike, but all the crossovers are getting cloned too.

Hint - I have a forerunner of this type of rig, but I'm not excited about this style.

stickguy

hat the new Subaru thing a ma jiggy based on the impreza?

whatever it is, I like it.

stever

Yep, the Subaru Crosstrek.

2013 Subaru XV Crosstrek First Drive

Who knows, may be nice in person. But I wasn't wild about the latest generation CR-V we sat in while tire-kicking a Fit, and I really like boxier wagons. Guess this is more Fit sized, but it still has that shape to me, at least the side view. No worse than a Prius I guess.

The Crosstrek should be here next fall, and should retail around $18k. MPG is targeted around 40mpg for the 2.0l that we will likely get in the US. The orange may not be available.

magnette

UAZ of some sort - I can't remamber what the model name is, although they are usually things like 23455 or something equally unmemorable....

andys120

Right Magnette, it's a UAZ 2269, the Jeep version is the UAZ 469. The Beijing Jeep is basically a Chinese copy of the 469.

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ateixeira

...and once again we do not get the wonderful diesel version, which Autoblog absolutely loved. :sick: