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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited June 2012
    Lancia also introduced the first V-4 in a mass produced car.

    The Aprillia is a beautifully made "llittle" car. Never have seen an Ardea in the flesh.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    I forgot the Ardea.... Before the mid thirties I think the Italians drove on the left in towns and on the right in the countryside.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,458
    an Aston Martin DB that is going to cost a fortune to restore?

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    an Aston Martin DB that is going to cost a fortune to restore?

    Obviously it is an Aston DB, so was every postwar A-M, and it'll probably be worth every penny it takes to restore it. Who wants to help Stickguy out and tell us what DB this is?

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • jwilliams2jwilliams2 Member Posts: 910
    That's the 1957 Aston Martin DB 2/4 Mark II that sold recently at Bonhams for about $95k.......
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    And worth maybe $135K restored, so that guy's buried for life.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    worth maybe $135K restored, so that guy's buried for life.

    Only if yhou assume it'll never be worth more than $135K. I can see it worth twice that in say ten years.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    That's a risky bet. Many well-respected collector cars have been flat for years. Collector cars do not automatically go up in value. Look at the Jaguar E-Type as an example. As for the Aston DB2/4, this is not a particularly desirable car for investment purposes. DB4GTs and DB5s are 5X the car.

    I'd say that if this DB2/4 gained 4% a year in value, that'd be a lot. So yeah, in decades to come it'll be worth double.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • odie6lodie6l Member Posts: 1,173
    Here is the vehicle that is a little hard to see in the line-up. As you can see its not a Mustange... :D

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    Odie
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,458
    70ish Dodge Dart GTS (no Fiat underpinnings on this one!)

    From the hood, maybe one of the 383 CI models?

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Resembles the old Land Cruiser but that's not it...
  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    Nissan Patrol?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited June 2012
    Yep, it's a 1969 Nissan Patrol. It's a mystery to me why the Japanese no longer offer anything like the Patrol or the LC FJ. The FJ Cruiser is nothing like the original Land Cruiser, if it was I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    The new Patrol serves as the basis for the Infiniti QX56.

    Nothing like that original, though.

    http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2010/02/2011-nissan-patrol-suv-officially.html
  • wgraferwgrafer Member Posts: 592
    Well, now that I can see it I recognize it as a '68 Dodge Dart (thanks to the side marker lights). I believe this GTS model had a 440 engine (I know, hard to believe).
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I remember growing up in the Chicago area in the 60's. There was a Dealer called Mr. Norm's Grand Spaulding Dodge. They could put you together a Dodge in most any sort of manner and still keep it factory authorized for warranty. In fact, Mr. Norm worked with Mopar occasionally back then putting together some of these muscle packages that came from Detroit. I can still hear the radio spots on WLS! I also am pretty sure they could wedge (no pun intended) a 440 into most any Dodge.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,458
    like this one?

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  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    I am not sure if this is a con, but the base car is a Mitsubishi Galant 2 door (might be Colt in some markets), probably a GA or GB series from about 1973-75. That is a Chrysler Hemi V8 wedged in the engine bay, which must have been a challenge.

    I suspect that it is not street legal. There is certainly no way that any sane person could drive it.

    I owned a lime green GB Galant Wagon; cart sprung rear end and all. I managed to get it to 100mph on a long steep downhill once, but lived!

    Cheers

    Graham
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    Someone else already has it, but a late 60's Nissan Patrol which has been nicely restored.

    Odd thing to drive; it had a three speed column mount transmission but I cannot recall how the four wheel drive system operated. I know that you had to manually lock the front hubs because I can recall doing so in driving rain/sleet when it was already too late.

    The over-riding impression was the noise. As you accelerated there was a huge amount of transmission noise and then the off-road tyres on bitumen subsumed that

    The Toyota Landcruiser of similar era was much better. However the Patrol would go pretty much the same distance off road.

    The GQ Patrol from 1980 was a major leap forward. Many are still going strong here in Australia. Again, my over-riding impression is of the road noise.

    Toyota in Australia still sell the workhorse version of the Landcruiser (Series 70). In severe operating conditions (there is a lot of Australia where this applies) they are the dominant vehicle.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Monster Mitsubishi? :D

    For some reason that engine looks like a mock-up. I wonder if it ran.

    It does have smooth wheel covers, maybe it was a top speed car for the salt flats?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Must be heavily reinforced underneath. That engine would normally twist that car like a pretzel. It does have a mock-up quality about it though.
  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,602
    Since I can see no accommodations that would allow you to close the hood, I would guess that it is either a mock-up or not yet ready for the road (if it ever would be).

    2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Could be one of those "weld the steering wheel straight, stomp your foot on it and yell YEE-HAW!" kind of cars. :P
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    Wonder if that is some kind of outlaw Pro Stock tribute car project? But that hemi looks like a 392 with the rear mounted distributor, so maybe not.

    Don Carlton raced one of the hemi-powered Rod Shop Dodge Colts and was killed in an accident while testing his car at the Milan race track in Michigan in the summer of 1977. Billy Stepp from Dayton had one of those banned Pro Stock hemi Colts but it was wrecked during a match race. I think most of them wound up being totaled. Not too surprising though considering the recipe of 426 hemi + short wheelbase. Still amazing that some guys were actually willing to push these tiny things down the track all the way down to the low 8s! :surprise:
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,458
    here is a link to the write up about it where I found the picture. The Ebay link is no longer there though.

    http://www.streetlegaltv.com/news/ebay-find-of-the-day-392-hemi-powered-%E2%80%9- 971-dodge-colt/

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Looks like a Renault 4CV and.....maybe a Fiat 1100D?
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    I would have sworn it was Photoshopped.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    The yellow car is indeed a Renault 4CV. Wanna take another guess on the other, it's not a Millecento but it has close to the same displacement?

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,125
    Same here, but if you look at the hood, it has a cutout for the air cleaner, probably a big scoop on top, so the hood actually works!
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Heh, it needs a cutout for the top third of the engine.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Maybe it's a faux hood and he just drives around with no hood at all. :D
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Fiat 1300?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Sorry old boy, it's not a Fiat at all, in fact it's not Italian.

    Hint: the still is from a French movie.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,125
    Is that a running version of the Simca we saw for sale a few days ago?
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    Simca 1000
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    (1960)Simca 1000 it is. The 1100 version of the little French box was exported to the USA.

    A buddy of mine had one and for some reason it always smelled of brake fluid. With only 30HP you could stop by dragging your feet. :P

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Well it should have been a Fiat 1100---it would have run longer :P
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Any guesses on the "woody" in Post #33449?

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    Fiat but it looks to be too long to be a Giardiniera.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Yep, Imcdb sez it's a 1949 Fiat 1100 Giardineira.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Looks like a 1959 Plymouth Savoy police car up front with pehaps a 1954 Ford Country Sedan station wagon next to it and a 1958 Ford wagon travelling in the opposite direction.
  • wgraferwgrafer Member Posts: 592
    Good job-Looks right to me Lemko, but what about the car barely visible through the wagon's rear window?? How about another '58 Ford?????
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    a 1958 Ford wagon travelling in the opposite direction.

    I think that's a '59 Ford wagon. Note how the top of the windshield curves up into the roof like this '59>

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    The shape is a bit different on the '58, the top of the A-pillars do not curve back into the roof>

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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • wgraferwgrafer Member Posts: 592
    "I think that's a '59 Ford wagon."

    NO! The trim screams '58. I think the little curve at the top is an optical illusion, maybe because of the 2-tone colors.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    NO! The trim screams '58. I think the little curve at the top is an optical illusion, maybe because of the 2-tone colors.

    Here's a '59 similarly trimmed out>

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    It's true that the trim around the windows looks a little thinner than on the other photo but that could be just the difference between models (Ranch Wagon vs. Country Squire) rather than model years.

    There's a spot of sunlight glinting off the A-post just where it joins the roof so you could be right about the "optical illusion" but I still say it could be a '59

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

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