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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited May 2012
    I always thought 1960 was like 1958, generally not a great year for automotive styling.

    Ya think?

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    :(:cry: :confuse: :sick: :lemon:

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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Ouch - too funny!
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    The white car? I think that's the Volvo P1900.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,467
    Must be something wrong with me...I kind of like full-size 60 Fords. 60 was also the first true model year for fintails in Europe.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited May 2012
    The 60 Fords were a lot less hideous than most of the 1960s to come out of Detroit's Big Three. As a matter of fact they were better looking than the '59 Chevys they were patterned after. They just didn't look anything like the Fords that came before or after.

    Europe was another story. American influences were taking hold as in the Fintails sometimes to good effect and sometimes the opposite.

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    There were a couple of Detroiters that stood out in a good way, the first generation of compacts were attractively styled and one GM division hit the bull's eye with their full-sizers..

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,467
    1960 models are really oddballs, either still over the top like Mopars and most GMs, or a weird intermediary between the 50s and 60s (like the 60 Ford, or that Pontiac with a 60s looking front combined with late 50s sides). It's amazing how much almost everything modernized by 62.

    I don't mind the DKW, as it is such a shameless T-Bird derivative.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    The small white estate car in the far distance beyond the two[tone Ford Zodiac MkII is I think Standard Companion - although you may have had that as some sort of Triumph.
    Also, beyond the Volvos (and I think that is a 1900) is a Renault Dauphine and a 750.
    What really amazes me is the two Berkeleys just beyond the Jags... At least, I think they are - with those raised headlights they look different from the domestic ones.
    The DKW Munga, next to the Aston Martins is a bit of a contrast.
    That would be a great show to go to...
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,766
    Now we know where BMW got 'The Kink' from. :)
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,467
    edited May 2012
    French president Hollande's new Citroen DS5 - I was kind of hoping he'd end up in a German car, probably should :shades:

    I'll be here in a few weeks...I doubt the vehicles will be as interesting:

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited May 2012
    Been there, did that back in '66. That's a '57 Ford Sunliner at the center (I guess it could be a Skyliner but those were pretty rare) with a Blavk 50-ish Plymouth or Dodge behind it. I'll leave the rest for others.

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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    The 60 Fords were a lot less hideous than most of the 1960s

    I think they would have looked better if they had stuck closer to the original Joe Oros protoype. I learned to drive in a stripped 3 on the tree '60 Fairlane. Very low seating and bad rocker panel tinworm. But the 6 banger meant a manual choke and it would be one of the few cars out in the lot to start right up on those 20+ below zero Chicagoland winter nights.
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    1960 models are really oddballs, either still over the top like Mopars

    A lot of the Mopars were over the top that year, but ironically I think the large Chrysler and DeSoto models came out as some of the better looking 1960 models. I'll admit though that I liked the original Valiant and thought the 60 Caddy was too toned down from the flamboyant '59!

    It's amazing how much almost everything modernized by 62

    Not only modernized, but very toned down (except for the downsized Plymouth and Dodge Polara).
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I'll take the 49 or 50 Chevy fastback on the left. I always liked that roofline in both 2 and 4 dr models, but the more formal alternative was more popular. I think the fastback was only available in some of the lower price lines. Incidently, some of those ladies' swimsuits might have actually been considerd a bit risque for that time period - Funny!
  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,602
    That's a '57 Ford Sunliner at the center

    Does anyone see anything later than that '57? I'm thinking that must be about the vintage of the picture.

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  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,402
    Two-tone green and white 56 Ford Fairlane. Black 56 Ford Sunliner. 56 or 55 two-tone blue and white Ford. 52 or 53 Ford at waters edge. 49/50 black and white Ford in front of the yellow Chevy.
  • wgraferwgrafer Member Posts: 592
    "that's a '57 Ford Sunliner at the center (I guess it could be a Skyliner but those were pretty rare) with a Blavk 50-ish Plymouth or Dodge behind it."

    I'm pretty darn sure that black one behind the '57 Ford convertible is a '49 Mercury instead of a Mopar.

    I don't see anything newer than the '57 either.

    And I do remember this Daytona Beach scene from back in the 60's - stayed at a very inexpensive hotel called The Tower just across and down from the bandshell (there's a high-rise Marriott there now). Ah memories.....
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,873
    I think my last trip to Daytona was in '77... We had a lot of fun.. :)

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,467
    Judging by the economic and industrial realities of the brave new world Europe, he should probably be in a S400 hybrid :shades: That being said, I do like the Citroen C6.

    What's the yellow and black car beside the black 56 Ford, with people sitting on the hood? Maybe a 54-55 Olds?
  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,602
    My take is that it is a Buick, probably 53-54.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited May 2012
    I'm pretty darn sure that black one behind the '57 Ford convertible is a '49 Mercury instead of a Mopar.

    I don't think so, the black car has the taller windshield and squared roofline characteristic of the '49-'52 MoPars. Mercs had shorter windshields and a distinctly rounded roofline.

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  • wgraferwgrafer Member Posts: 592
    edited May 2012
    I'm still pretty darn sure it's a '49 Merc. The pic you attached is a '50. The '49 on the beach has the small round turn signals under the headlights.

    I think the yellow & black one IS a Buick, but a '55.

    And nobody mentioned the 2-tone red&white '55 Mercury going North....
  • wgraferwgrafer Member Posts: 592
    edited May 2012
    Now here's a real '49 Merc....

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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I always liked the 4dr version of those Merc's with the suicide doors.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,467
    Hazardous driving conditions:

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,766
    That looks like something designed to make a perp confess before they got to the station.
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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Dug that one out for the 30th anniversary of Mt. St. Helens blowing eh?

    Doesn't look like a 1980 though so I'll guess it's a '79 Crown Vic.

    That's a lot of ash.
  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,602
    I think the yellow & black one IS a Buick, but a '55.

    I can't make the tail lights work for a '55. It looks like it has the two buttons per side of a 53 or 54. Good catch on the Merc.

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  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    I am a bit mystified. What are the hoses supposed to be doing, filtering inlet air or water circulation?

    Cheers

    Graham
  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,714
    me too, I was just afraid to admit it :P

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,125
    Only thing I can guess is that this was during the St. Helens eruption, and they were trying to plumb clean(er) air to the engine.
  • wgraferwgrafer Member Posts: 592
    At first I thought it some type of 'Ghostbusters' vehicle..but I guess it was just some improvised way of keeping the ash out of the carbs...

    The white state patrol is not a Ford - it's a '78 Dodge - maybe Monaco? Behind it is a '78 Malibu (with the same jerry-rigged hoses).
    The last one looks like a '78 Ford LTD II, and the 3rd one looks kind of like a a '74-'75 Malibu.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    That's what I thought when I first saw the pic, but it's hard to figure out what good the hoses do.

    My '82 Tercel got hit by a different ash cloud in '86 and ruined the windshield.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,873
    I think it's funneling cabin air to the air intake on the engine.... so, that the dust doesn't clog the engine...

    But, if you keep your HVAC on re-circulate, it's going to get awfully stale in there...

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,682
    Thank God for duct tape!

    The suction in the passenger compartment would draw air in through the escape valves normally used for venting the air through the trunk or rear door jambs and through the heater duct intake. I'm guessing the particulate would settle out mostly coming in that way. That keeps the air intake for the engine filter from getting dirty. Didn't they have a problem with the fine material stopping up the regular air intake filters quickly?

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited May 2012
    That's all I did - just replaced the air filter about three times. We got nothing like the amount in the photo though. Hm, guess that was '89.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,467
    edited May 2012
    Yep, I was browing youtube and saw some videos about it, dawned on me I had some pics.

    The hoses are for as imadizol describes - feed clean air into the engine, as the ash would clog the filters and carbs immediately. I remember seeing these images, and my dad explained to me what the hoses accomplished - pretty ingenious, I think. I spent much of my childhood in that part of the state - I am too young to remember the initial event, but my clear memories start a few years later, and I remember even then the ash was still a common sight, especially on country roads or just under the surface of a lawn. I remember I90 through the Columbia Basin was white on the shoulders from the ash, through the mid 80s. Areas from Yakima to Moses Lake received around 2-3" of ash, I think.

    The big mopar is a Washington State Patrol car of course, the Malibu is city of Moses Lake police (we lived there), the end car is a 77-79 T-Bird Heritage model.

    Here's the Malibu's apparatus:

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,030
    My LaCrosse's big brother! Caddy XTS. Looks really nice.

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Very handsome sedan. Inside and out - you guys seen the massive 12.3" screen in those? It's eye candy.
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,030
    Yes, very nice. I think the new GS has a pretty giant screen as well. I think the one in my LaCrosse is 8" and most people comment how big that is.

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I have a 7" aftermarket screen, so I'm spoiled. Some OEM displays are tiny.

    C'mon folks, if an iPad costs $399 now, and OEMs want $2 grand or more for these features, I don't see why there are so many 4-6"screens around.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I'll guess around a 64 or 65 Ford Falcon wagon.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Yup, it's a 1964 Ford Falcon Deluxe, originally equipped with the (Fairlane) 260 small block V8 but converted to Mustang 302 power.

    Kinda cool IMO.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,766
    Maybe it's the contrasting roof color, but for some reason it makes me think of a Flex.
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  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,602
    it's a 1964 Ford Falcon Deluxe, originally equipped with the (Fairlane) 260 small block V8 but converted to Mustang 302 power.

    Oohhh. They removed the V-8 badges. Nice touch. Make everyone think you are running the 144 ci six (or at most the romping, stomping 170 ci job.)

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,461
    there's a falcon of that vintage that lives near me. Street parks and everything. But it has woodgrain sides. Very classy.

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited May 2012
    Everyone loves a parade eh? And yeah, there's music, so if you need to adjust your sound, you've been warned.

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