That's an '86 Monte Carlo SS Aerocoupe. The '87 had the revised 'flush' taillights and only a pinstripe around the top of the wheel openings.
I put a deposit on an '85 burgundy SS (not Aerocoupe), then chickened out and got my deposit back and a few months later ordered a Celebrity Eurosport instead. I had had '81 and '82 Monte Carlos already and my '81 was stolen (never found) and someone broke into the '82 in an attempt to steal it, but didn't.
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I wonder if Chevy had added Chevelle/Malibu and Monte Carlo together, if Olds could have made that claim.
I'm sure there were a few years in there, where Malibu/Monte Carlo sales would have beaten out the Cutlass line. For instance, in 1978-79, while the Cutlass Supreme coupe was a hot seller, and the wagons sold fairly well, those clunky "aeroback" coupes and sedans pretty much flopped. Meanwhile, the Monte Carlo and Malibu both sold well.
In '80 though, I think the Cutlass might have still won out. The Malibu saw a pretty sharp drop that year, no doubt because of competition from the Citation. And the Monte Carlo fell off as well. The Cutlass Supreme coupe probably fell off a bit, but the sedan was given a new roofline reminiscent of the '75-79 Seville, and sales suddenly took off.
My wife actually likes the looks of these ... and, I find them, um, "unique".
I test drove one a few months back. FWD with 6-speed manual. It's actually quite a blast to drive; not sure how I'd feel about the AWD/CVT combo. The 188HP turbo 1.6L is a kick in the rear. Kinda like a GTI on stilts, though probably not as big, inside or out.
Most of the ones we see on the road are driven by 'mature' folks.
"But it's got AWD! And it's a convertible!" "So? Let's get a Jeep instead."
Having had a CJ-5back in the day and now driving a '99 Nissan, I'd take the Murano.
I like the PT Cruiser convertible touring setups too. Just enough room in these rigs to take them camping, but I'd rather have the ground clearance of the Murano for the forest service roads we like.
I looked at convertibles, and thought about a back seat for the kids. In terms of space, the PT was among the best, only the Sebring was roomier at the time.
But...cowl shake was pretty bad. The whole vehicle felt cheap, like it would break in half and last less than 3 years.
None of the roomy ones drove well (PT, Sebring, Solara), so I went with a 2 seater.
Sure it's another oddball, but the boxy shape is practical, at least.
Fun and practical, what more can you ask? At that point who cares what it looks like.
If there is one drawback to the Juke, it would be cargo capacity. My wife does some adult education, and the amount of stuff she has to take with her fills up the back of the CX-7 - and occasionally requires that half of the rear seat be folded down as well.
That stuff may fit in the Juke with both seats down - but just barely.
I can see the 65 Ford winning if you look at the rear end (and it isn't the stripped base model with small round tailights and cheap trim filling up the rest of the tailight area. But front end, rooflines, etc. move me over to the 66 overall. Impala, I'll go 65 hands down. Fury is a toss-up, I'd probably lean toward the 66. By and large though, most everything in 65/66 was pretty decent looking to my eyes, kind of like 57.
Never seen one but the nose is definitely Audi 100 from about 1970 so I went searching. I had wondered whether it was early enough for Auto Union but apparently a genuine Audi.
Apparently an Audi 100 Coupe S.
The rear looks very like a William Towns designed Aston Martin DBS from the same era or maybe a 67 Mustang fastback. I wonder who was the designer of the Audi Coupe?
"an excerable design not comparable to any Audi in any way. "
Excreble? Absolutely. My point, the Audi's fastback design is also unattractive to me. Not the engine, chassis, interior, front end, etc. Just the fastback styling.
The B210 helped make Datsun popular as a cheap, economical, fairly reliable car. The Audi 100 helped make Audis known for poor reliability and resale. They had to change the next generation's US name to the 5000 to try and cover their tracks.
I'm pretty sure the black car is an early 1950s Opel. It's got a very GM look about it like a 1948 Chevrolet Fleetline.The lavish trim suggests a Kapitan. The truck, I'm not sure. Is it a German Ford truck?
I think our version was called the 100LS, as well... Don't think the 5000 name got here until later...
Yep, I forgot about the original Audi 100LS, sold here as a two or four door sedan in the early 70s but not as a hatchback>
As mentioned it was replaced by the Giugiaro styled four door known in the US as the Audi 5000 (still called the Audi 100 in other markets.>
I am well aware that Audi had a poor reliability record in the USA during the 70s and 80s but my previous comparison with the awful looking B-210 was primarily about the styling. IMO the B210 was one of the ugliest mutts ever put out by Nissan/Datsun, an organization not exactly renowned for their styling prowess.
I'll daisy chain on your contribution. Just down from the Rambler (an American) is a brownish-red and white '58 Chevrolet. I note it for two reasons: 1. It looks to be a Bel Air 4-door hardtop, which I think was fairly rare 2. My dad had one of them (pea-green and white) and it was a total pig.
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I see a few newer than 62. The enlarged pic helps a lot.
A few things catch my eye: lowline 60 Ford wagon in the foreground - my dad had a 60 Country Sedan back in the 90s, insanely rare car. In what appears a case of one-upmanship, behind it (beside a Beetle) is a 61 Ford 2 door Ranch Wagon -I have never seen one of these in person before, can't be more than a few left today. And the weirdo award, in the far right row next to a Pontiac is a Fiat Multipla - it was even stranger then than today, no doubt. A deformed egg shaped van based on the Fiat 600.
Well, you must have a way better monitor than mine. I can spot only one definite newer than '62 -- the partial rear of a maroon '63 Impala is peeking out from the lower left corner. What else do you see????
I can see a couple more foreigners, other than the ubiquitous Beetles or the Multipla...No idea what they are though as too small... Find the left hand lamp post, next to a gold coloured 50's Oldsmobile(?) Anyway, where that cuts across the next pair of lines further away, there is a small white car in the row directly above that red VW. Looks odd to me, but too small to tell what it could be. Starting again from the red VW if you go along the row towards the right then after a couple of cars there are about three spaces on the far side of the row - and a red sports car which is really little.
That's an interesting story on your dad's 58 Chevy. I have a friend who, many years ago, drove his to a VW dealership, threw the car keys onto a salesman's desk, and while pointing to the Chevy said, "I don't know what you have on your lot but I'm not driving that thing home".
Second row from far right, sitting between a 60 Ford sedan (which is beside that Chevelle) and a 55 Chevy, is a blue 65 Impala. There's a lowline 64-65 Chevelle sedan to the right of the 55 Chevy too, red with a box on the roof.
A few cars down, to the right of a 58 Impala, is what looks like another 65 Impala, in red.
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Gives you an idea of how in demand those are.
Juke is an odd ball but it sells extremely well. They've sold more than 16,000 of those already in 2012.
That's more than double the entire MINI brand, with seemingly 84 model variations.
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I put a deposit on an '85 burgundy SS (not Aerocoupe), then chickened out and got my deposit back and a few months later ordered a Celebrity Eurosport instead. I had had '81 and '82 Monte Carlos already and my '81 was stolen (never found) and someone broke into the '82 in an attempt to steal it, but didn't.
Juke outsells the Cooper Hardtop 16k to about 12k.
Once you add all the other models, though, MINI totals 26k.
I stand corrected.
I'm sure there were a few years in there, where Malibu/Monte Carlo sales would have beaten out the Cutlass line. For instance, in 1978-79, while the Cutlass Supreme coupe was a hot seller, and the wagons sold fairly well, those clunky "aeroback" coupes and sedans pretty much flopped. Meanwhile, the Monte Carlo and Malibu both sold well.
In '80 though, I think the Cutlass might have still won out. The Malibu saw a pretty sharp drop that year, no doubt because of competition from the Citation. And the Monte Carlo fell off as well. The Cutlass Supreme coupe probably fell off a bit, but the sedan was given a new roofline reminiscent of the '75-79 Seville, and sales suddenly took off.
My wife actually likes the looks of these ... and, I find them, um, "unique".
I test drove one a few months back. FWD with 6-speed manual. It's actually quite a blast to drive; not sure how I'd feel about the AWD/CVT combo. The 188HP turbo 1.6L is a kick in the rear. Kinda like a GTI on stilts, though probably not as big, inside or out.
Most of the ones we see on the road are driven by 'mature' folks.
Fun and practical, what more can you ask? At that point who cares what it looks like.
Cube turbo would also be much cheaper.
"So? Let's get a Jeep instead."
Having had a CJ-5back in the day and now driving a '99 Nissan, I'd take the Murano.
I like the PT Cruiser convertible touring setups too. Just enough room in these rigs to take them camping, but I'd rather have the ground clearance of the Murano for the forest service roads we like.
Looks don't last - function does.
But...cowl shake was pretty bad. The whole vehicle felt cheap, like it would break in half and last less than 3 years.
None of the roomy ones drove well (PT, Sebring, Solara), so I went with a 2 seater.
Just the opposite for me. I think the '66 looks 'chubby' compared to the '65.
Fun and practical, what more can you ask? At that point who cares what it looks like.
If there is one drawback to the Juke, it would be cargo capacity. My wife does some adult education, and the amount of stuff she has to take with her fills up the back of the CX-7 - and occasionally requires that half of the rear seat be folded down as well.
That stuff may fit in the Juke with both seats down - but just barely.
Pathfinder should change that.
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Never seen one but the nose is definitely Audi 100 from about 1970 so I went searching. I had wondered whether it was early enough for Auto Union but apparently a genuine Audi.
Apparently an Audi 100 Coupe S.
The rear looks very like a William Towns designed Aston Martin DBS from the same era or maybe a 67 Mustang fastback. I wonder who was the designer of the Audi Coupe?
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Neighbor had a 100 when I was a kid and it was not a very good car. I only started liking Audis when the GT came out and they started rallying.
Excreble? Absolutely. My point, the Audi's fastback design is also unattractive to me. Not the engine, chassis, interior, front end, etc. Just the fastback styling.
The B210 helped make Datsun popular as a cheap, economical, fairly reliable car. The Audi 100 helped make Audis known for poor reliability and resale. They had to change the next generation's US name to the 5000 to try and cover their tracks.
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I think our version was called the 100LS, as well... Don't think the 5000 name got here until later...
I've never seen that hatchback version before... nice!
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Yep, I forgot about the original Audi 100LS, sold here as a two or four door sedan in the early 70s but not as a hatchback>
As mentioned it was replaced by the Giugiaro styled four door known in the US as the Audi 5000 (still called the Audi 100 in other markets.>
I am well aware that Audi had a poor reliability record in the USA during the 70s and 80s but my previous comparison with the awful looking B-210 was primarily about the styling. IMO the B210 was one of the ugliest mutts ever put out by Nissan/Datsun, an organization not exactly renowned for their styling prowess.
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(and, no, I'm not excited, the exclamation mark is part of the name, IIRC)
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2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
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and those are about the only furrin cars I see.
and only a couple domestic smaller ones. A white rambler in front, and a red corvair toward the back.
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1. It looks to be a Bel Air 4-door hardtop, which I think was fairly rare
2. My dad had one of them (pea-green and white) and it was a total pig.
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A few things catch my eye: lowline 60 Ford wagon in the foreground - my dad had a 60 Country Sedan back in the 90s, insanely rare car. In what appears a case of one-upmanship, behind it (beside a Beetle) is a 61 Ford 2 door Ranch Wagon -I have never seen one of these in person before, can't be more than a few left today. And the weirdo award, in the far right row next to a Pontiac is a Fiat Multipla - it was even stranger then than today, no doubt. A deformed egg shaped van based on the Fiat 600.
Well, you must have a way better monitor than mine. I can spot only one definite newer than '62 -- the partial rear of a maroon '63 Impala is peeking out from the lower left corner. What else do you see????
Find the left hand lamp post, next to a gold coloured 50's Oldsmobile(?) Anyway, where that cuts across the next pair of lines further away, there is a small white car in the row directly above that red VW. Looks odd to me, but too small to tell what it could be. Starting again from the red VW if you go along the row towards the right then after a couple of cars there are about three spaces on the far side of the row - and a red sports car which is really little.
I have a friend who, many years ago, drove his to a VW dealership, threw the car keys onto a salesman's desk, and while pointing to the Chevy said, "I don't know what you have on your lot but I'm not driving that thing home".
A few cars down, to the right of a 58 Impala, is what looks like another 65 Impala, in red.
I bet the small red car is an MG or Austin of some type.