Mystery car pix

imidazol97

>that I also feel like an idiot as I didn't scroll down the first few times I came to the site and thought the whole thing was down

Same here. Welcome to the club.

I was so used to various problems with Edmunds--Bless their hearts--that I just assumed the whole page didn't load.

magnette

I didn't scroll down the first few times either- glad I'm not the only one - wonder how many others aren't going on as a result ?

lostwrench1

54 Chrysler Newport.

andys120

Yup, it's a 1968 Datsun 1600 Roadster with non-stock wheels on, they're probably look alikes by Panasport rather than real (expensive magnesium alloy) Minilites.

AFAIK there's no easy way to tell the 2000 from the 1600 Roadsters.

lemko

Yep. That's it! This one was the winner of the Carrera Panamericana that year.

tjc78

texases

1956 Aeorcar? Folks always want 'flying cars', not realizing how difficult it is to be a pilot! They're really better called 'driveable planes'.

andys120

This one was the winner of the Carrera Panamericana that year.

The 1954 Carrera was won by Umberto Maglioli in a Ferrari 375, followed by Americans Phil Hill and Richie Ginther in another 375. The Touring Class for sedans was won by Ray Crawford and Enrique Inglesias in a factory-entered
Lincoln Capri for Lincoln's second straight class win.

Excuse my pedantry, I am a bit of a nut on racing history.

andys120

Folks always want 'flying cars', no realizing how difficult it is to be a pilot! They're really better called 'driveable planes'.

It was said of the Amphicar that it was a lousy car and a worse boat. I imagine the Aerocar was similar, a lousy car and a worse plane.

tjc78

1956 Aeorcar

1954 Interesting to say the least. I don't think I'd care to drive it or have enough "guts" to fly it!

stever

I don't think I'd want to be under the flight path. Speaking of, Terrafugia Transition Flying Car Ready for Road Testing (Inside Line)

fintail

A lot of people can barely handle being in a plane as a passenger (go to any large airport to see the clueless idiots), I shudder at the thought of these people having flying versions of their Corollas.

imidazol97

>flying versions of their Corollas.

Especially with the unexplained acceleration and other problems toyota has had! Can't you see the Corolla SE turning into a jet at full throttle!

tjc78

The only flying car should be this...

lemko

fintail

I can't see a 61-64 Ford sedan without thinking of that show. End of an era.

fintail

What about one of Goldie Wilson's hoverconversions? Only 39,999.95 :shades:



And they made at least one, too!

fintail

Brussels, 1958. A little something for everyone:



LARGER version here

andys120

'63 Ford, probably a Custom or Crestliner.

RIP Andy.

berri

That 63 was my favorite Mayberry cop car followed by the 64. It was a good show because it didn't just focus on Andy.

lostwrench1

Over the years, there were only three episodes in which JL 327 was not the license plate.

fintail

I don't believe Corollas have acceleration, intended or otherwise :shades:

I like the "S" model - sporty, body cladding = more ground hugging weight.

bhill2

All right here's my favorite challenge, made trickier by the fact that European cars did not make arbitrary year to year changes. Can anyone see a reason that this picture had to be taken later than 1958? Why can't it have been taken before (by more than a few months, at least?)

fintail

The photo, per the photographer, is part of a set taken at Expo 58, which was in Brussels. Can't be before, as there's a 58 Chevy parked somewhere, and a non-oval VW which I believe debuted in 58.

For the cars, I will take the lovely wide-whitewalled highline MB ponton in the leftmost row, sitting between a Citroen Traction and a likely 46-48 Mopar sedan.

texases

Speaking of Expo '58:

bhill2

Looks to me like a Tatra, but that's a guess.

magnette

I'll take the two cars coming in at the far end of the car park - a Peugeot 403 leading what I think is an Alfa Romeo 1900.

The most interesting cars would seem to be the large convertible -probably Amreican - in the foreground obscured by the hedge, and the tail end of the small car at the far end of the middle row just below the BP petrol sign, which looks familiar but I can't think what it is...

The tram looks like its from a flatpack furniture company.

tmart

I'll take the 53 Ford in the center.

texases

Yep, '58 Tatra 603, I think.

andys120

qbrozen

hmmm... looks a helluva lot like an MP4-12C. New version of it?

stever

Obviously not here though.

magnette

Everyone else seems to have gone quiet on Brussels '58, but I thought I'd fill a few of the gaps

Left row in car park - the tail of a DKW I think, then an Opel Kapitan P - that would be brand new in 1958. I know they built some Opels in Belgium under licence but I believe that was just the smaller ones, and I'm not sure about the dates either. At first I thought it was an American car, but its not large enough. Then the Citroen Traction and the MB but the Mopar is more difficult - Plymouth or Dodge, because of the chrome strip ?
Beyond that a 2CV tucked out of sight, then I think a Renault 750/4CV, but then I'm looking at another, two tone Opel, and that appears to be a Rekord P1, again brand new.
I'm not sure what the old curved car beyond is unless it's a Peugeot 203, but I'm also unclear about the large two tone sedan beyond- is this American? Beyond that is one I don't see well, and then another more basic 2CV.
Middle row - the Jaguar is of course a MkI but they wouldn't have called it that then and it is most likely a 2.4 because it's too early to be a 3.4. Then I'm confused again - is this a German Ford Taunus 17M P2? Beyond that is a Wolseley, from the chrome I would say a 4/44 but it might easily be a 15/50. Beyond that another mystery - its Amrican by the size, but I don't know (my first thought was Studebaker but I doubt that). Then we have a VW, a Morris Oxford (MkII or III) a Borgward Isabella, Peugeot 403 and a mystery at the end.
The short row starts with the big convertible, then a British Ford Consul II and a Renault Dauphine.
Next row in the middle starts with the 53 Ford, a Citroen DS, another Dauphine then I think another Opel Rekord, but then comes the weird little coupe. I'm going to say its an Autobleu - because they were made 1956/7 and the only picture I have found in a book is of the rear of one that looks like this - but its difficult. The two cars in the foreground belonging in that row are the easy VW and a dark car I can't identify.
The far row starts with a Ford Zodiac II then a 58 Chevy, M_B Ponton, another american (unless its another of those big Opels but I think this one is too big, then off we go with GM followed by a 2CV van (I think that was known as a Furgonette? Or was that only when the shed bit at the back had side windows?) Beyond that over to you, then two smaller Euro cars which are a bit vague - (Opel Kadett?) Finally another GM.
All I can see outside is a large Citroen Traction Avant to the right of the tram and another Opel Kapitan on this side of it.

I've tried to blow the picture up to see the white car over the road to the left of the BP sign but it becomes a Pixel Special so thats not much use.

Cheers

andys120

looks a helluva lot like an MP4-12C. New version of it?

Yup, it's the McLaren MP-4-12C Spider.

andys120

BIGGER

magnette

I've just had a closer look at that dark car three to three right of the BP station, and it looks like a Moskvitch 407 or 403. A firm called Scaldia imported CKD Moskvitchs and assembled them in Belgium from about 1958 onwards - is this likely to be one of those?

stickguy

Mercury on the billboard, and pointing at us making the turn.

blue Buick (55?) Century (?) in front of a tan Rambler station wagon.

'66ish mustang going away when you expand the picture.

imidazol97

The Mustang is a 67 coupe.

andys120

The car making the turn looks more like a (66ish) Lincoln to me. The Mustang is a '67 and the Rambler wagon is a ca. '65-'66.

There are plenty more to ID including the MY of the Merc on the billboard.

fintail

Hmm...there was a time when Mercury wasn't just a Ford for women? :shades:

andys120

Hmm...there was a time when Mercury wasn't just a Ford for women?

LOL, no it was a Lincoln for poor people.

That sign makes it look like a Pontiac.

bhill2

A small correction, the Rambler is a '63. Oh, and there's a '65 Chevy wagon behind the Lincoln. I can't identify the car between them.

fintail

I am sure it could be. I have no idea about many of the cars there, I just thought it was a cool shot with such a diverse lineup. Back in the day when American cars weren't so rare in Europe.

I too see a Taunus between the Jag and the Wolseley, and I think the car driving in just behind the far left row is a bullet nose Studebaker. The dark car in the foreground next to the VW could be another ~53 American Ford, rear window shape is the same.

The pic is from a flickr user with the name "allhails", who has endless amounts of interesting period pics, many street scenes, from UK and Europe in the late 50s-early 60s.

andys120

qbrozen

NOT a car worthy of jacking. :P

fintail

Those cars make me think of "Malcolm in the Middle"

lemko

Dodge Dynasty

tjc78

Yep another K-car varient. I'll tell you one thing, Chrysler got its money out of that platform.

I think only Ford can beat it with the Panther (except it didn't spawn as many models, just kept going and going...).

Mr_Shiftright

You wouldn't have to use a gun---I'm sure the driver would just GIVE it to you...

stevedebi

"I think only Ford can beat it with the Panther (except it didn't spawn as many models, just kept going and going...). "

Wouldn't it be the Ford Fox platform, of Fairmont, Mustang, LTD, and T-Bird fame? They used that one in a zillion cars.