I believe I see a side molding on the '63 Pontiac in the photo, but the flanks of the '63 Bonneville were plain. There was only a side molding along about the first 1/3 of the side of the car, up front, on a Bonneville. Catalinas and Star Chiefs had a full-length molding smack down the middle of the side of the body.
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King Soopers is a Colorado based grocery chain, now owned by Krogers. I guess I'm not surprised to see any foreign models in that picture. In the 1960's, most foreign brands were sold on the east and west coasts.
@uplanderguy said:
I believe I see a side molding on the '63 Pontiac in the photo, but the flanks of the '63 Bonneville were plain. There was only a side molding along about the first 1/3 of the side of the car, up front, on a Bonneville. Catalinas and Star Chiefs had a full-length molding smack down the middle of the side of the body.
It could be a side molding but it's just a bit higher than the middle, where it should be, so it might be just reflected sunlight.
Ah, a 1960 Falcon is a terrible thing to do to a young man....oh well, better than your friends seeing you ride a bicycle!
@bhill2 said:
Must have been tough. The car my parents owned when I became old enough to be sentient was a '55 VW. It was followed (briefly) by a '58 Chevy, then a '60 Falcon (oh the humanity) and a '64 Rambler (which was the car they had when I became old enough to drive. At least it was a V-8. However, they still had the Falcon and it got fobbed off on me. Did I mention 'oh the humanity'?).
I don't think so andys, but we can agree to disagree. The Bonneville has the big, ugly "Bonneville" emblem high on the rear quarter, that looks like a space ship.
A '64 Rambler V8 isn't a real common car. Until mid-way through the '63 model year, they only offered a V8 at all in the Ambassador; not even in the Classic line. In '64 it was available in the Classic and Ambassador lines.
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@explorerx4 said:
I'm pretty sure the 66 Chevy is a Caprice. I can't quite tell if the rear lights are segmented or have horizontal styling.
Caprices were actually pretty rare in 1966 but you might have something there. A '66 Impala should have each tailight segmented in three by vertical lines like this>
OTOH, the caprice t/ls were horizontally segemented>
I can just make out horizontal segments on the original b&w shot (the dividers on the Caprices t/ls are thinner and more subtle). It's definitely a Caprice, good eye!
@andys120
I remember the 66 Caprice because one time I went car shopping with my dad when I was a teen. One car we looked at, briefly, was a 66 maroon Caprice with black vinyl top.
I think it was the 396 that really caught my attention.
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@texases said:
So it had the 144 cid 6? With the auto? Ewww...
At least my '65 Mustang had the 170 and a 4-speed. Lots of fun, going nowhere fast...
If it had even had a 3-speed manual it would have been better. At that time the auto was a 2-speed Ford-o-matic. First was good for about 40 mph if you matted the accelerator, so up to that speed you could get it to downshift on a hill to keep it from slowing down. Above that speed you learned to enjoy the scenery. If it was a steep hill you wished for a good book.
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@uplanderguy said:
A '64 Rambler V8 isn't a real common car. Until mid-way through the '63 model year, they only offered a V8 at all in the Ambassador; not even in the Classic line. In '64 it was available in the Classic and Ambassador lines.
Yes. And the Ambassador came with a larger V8 (327 vs 287 cid). I tried to get Dad into one of those, but he said that it was too expensive. Which means either that he really felt that way or that he didn't want to cut his 16 year old son loose in the more powerful car (or both). Oh well, since it had a 3-speed automatic it could outgun a 327 Chevy with Powerglide in a stoplight drag, at least up to the speed limit (at which I suddenly became a good citizen). I also had another trick; the Drive position on the shift quadrant had a superscript '1' on one side and a superscript '2' on the other (the latter was for slippery surface and started the car in second gear). Someone who was riding with me once asked why I kept it in the '1' position all the time, so I told him that '2' was high range and I didn't bother with it unless I was going to be running for a while at 60 or above. I subsequently employed that story with other selected occupants.
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@andys120 said:
I can just make out horizontal segments on the original b&w shot (the dividers on the Caprices t/ls are thinner and more subtle). It's definitely a Caprice, good eye!
There was a girl in high school who had a drop-dead gorgeous maroon 1966 Chevrolet Caprice and she wrecked it! AAARRRGHHH!!! Same thing happened to another girl with a similarly nice gold 1969 Caprice!
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For its day probably the most revolutionary car imaginable. A Citroen Traction Avante. First front wheel drive monocoque car and remained in production from about 1934 to 1958. I see one used as a daily driver fairly regularly.
Holy smoke! Does the sign on that club say "The Dolphin?" There was a notorious strip club on South Broad Street in Philly a lot of servicemen from the Navy Yard patronized back in the day!
That car reminds me of a childhood friend's parents' 1965 Wildcat Deluxe 4-door hardtop (different bodystyle). The fuel filler in back was the coolest thing...the round Buick emblem was hinged but pulled out completely towards you. I always remember that.
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Yep, the big Buicks of the mid '60s had a mystique about them; they looked and drove great. I had occasion to drive a '62 Electra convertible and a '65 Wildcat 4 door ht.
1992-ish Honda Civic Wagon? I always thought that was one of the best room-for-the-size cars out there, I fit in the back seat after setting the front seat for my 6'5" size, plenty of headroom, too.
every time I drive my TL (a 2000) I am amazed by how low it is, particularly the trunk lid, and how large the glass area is. Feels like a real throwback. Even an Elantra towers over it.
but much nicer for backing up in a parking lot, without a backup cam. Changing lanes too is less of an adventure.
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I believe I see a side molding on the '63 Pontiac in the photo, but the flanks of the '63 Bonneville were plain. There was only a side molding along about the first 1/3 of the side of the car, up front, on a Bonneville. Catalinas and Star Chiefs had a full-length molding smack down the middle of the side of the body.
King Soopers is a Colorado based grocery chain, now owned by Krogers. I guess I'm not surprised to see any foreign models in that picture. In the 1960's, most foreign brands were sold on the east and west coasts.
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It could be a side molding but it's just a bit higher than the middle, where it should be, so it might be just reflected sunlight.
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Ah, a 1960 Falcon is a terrible thing to do to a young man....oh well, better than your friends seeing you ride a bicycle!
I don't think so andys, but we can agree to disagree. The Bonneville has the big, ugly "Bonneville" emblem high on the rear quarter, that looks like a space ship.
Here's a Catalina:
http://www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/CC-46-023-800.jpg
Bonneville:
http://images04.olx-st.com/ui/6/01/71/f_101630071-5791cd60.jpeg
On balance, yes. However, since the Falcon was an automatic, the bicycle would have been faster.
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So it had the 144 cid 6? With the auto? Ewww...
At least my '65 Mustang had the 170 and a 4-speed. Lots of fun, going nowhere fast...
A '64 Rambler V8 isn't a real common car. Until mid-way through the '63 model year, they only offered a V8 at all in the Ambassador; not even in the Classic line. In '64 it was available in the Classic and Ambassador lines.
I'm pretty sure the 66 Chevy is a Caprice. I can't quite tell if the rear lights are segmented or have horizontal styling.
Caprices were actually pretty rare in 1966 but you might have something there. A '66 Impala should have each tailight segmented in three by vertical lines like this>
OTOH, the caprice t/ls were horizontally segemented>
I can just make out horizontal segments on the original b&w shot (the dividers on the Caprices t/ls are thinner and more subtle). It's definitely a Caprice, good eye!
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@andys120
I remember the 66 Caprice because one time I went car shopping with my dad when I was a teen. One car we looked at, briefly, was a 66 maroon Caprice with black vinyl top.
I think it was the 396 that really caught my attention.
That is a Caprice, and I believe a 'Custom Coupe' model by the shape of the rear window in the original photo.
If it had even had a 3-speed manual it would have been better. At that time the auto was a 2-speed Ford-o-matic. First was good for about 40 mph if you matted the accelerator, so up to that speed you could get it to downshift on a hill to keep it from slowing down. Above that speed you learned to enjoy the scenery. If it was a steep hill you wished for a good book.
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But you had time to read a magazine while merging on the freeway, so you could catch up on your news.
Yes. And the Ambassador came with a larger V8 (327 vs 287 cid). I tried to get Dad into one of those, but he said that it was too expensive. Which means either that he really felt that way or that he didn't want to cut his 16 year old son loose in the more powerful car (or both). Oh well, since it had a 3-speed automatic it could outgun a 327 Chevy with Powerglide in a stoplight drag, at least up to the speed limit (at which I suddenly became a good citizen). I also had another trick; the Drive position on the shift quadrant had a superscript '1' on one side and a superscript '2' on the other (the latter was for slippery surface and started the car in second gear). Someone who was riding with me once asked why I kept it in the '1' position all the time, so I told him that '2' was high range and I didn't bother with it unless I was going to be running for a while at 60 or above. I subsequently employed that story with other selected occupants.
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There was a girl in high school who had a drop-dead gorgeous maroon 1966 Chevrolet Caprice and she wrecked it! AAARRRGHHH!!! Same thing happened to another girl with a similarly nice gold 1969 Caprice!
Yep, it's post war (1953 MY)>
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Citroen Traction Avant, which was in production with few exterior detail changes in some form from 1934-1957. I guess one from that year might be a 15CV.
G'day
For its day probably the most revolutionary car imaginable. A Citroen Traction Avante. First front wheel drive monocoque car and remained in production from about 1934 to 1958. I see one used as a daily driver fairly regularly.
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I like those Traction Avantes. Here in the USA, a popular conversion was to put a Ford flathead V8 in them. Transmissions are delicate.
TV still>
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1965 Dodge Dart GT. And is that a brand-new Valiant, '67 or later, at the curb, with its Monroney sticker still showing?
Is that Sgt. Carter driving with PFC Gomer Pyle in the passenger seat?
You're off by a year, it's a '66.
Sure looks it but it could be a Dart too.
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Holy smoke! Does the sign on that club say "The Dolphin?" There was a notorious strip club on South Broad Street in Philly a lot of servicemen from the Navy Yard patronized back in the day!
That's a '65 Dart. The '66 had new front fenders with a more rounded wheel opening.
Golee...it sho is.
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Shazam!
JDM special>
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Looks like an early 80s Toyota Scarlett?
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G'day
Looks like a 1980s Toyota Starlet. Wheels are definitely not original!
Cheers
Graham
JDM mirrors, anyway - looks like US lights and bumpers.
A starlet in the states.
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I'll never make fun of mirrors out on the fenders of Avantis or '63 Pontiacs again.
That's because it's a 1981 Toyota Starlet (JDM version). IIRC the Starlet was the last RWD Toyota subcompact sold in the US.
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That's what I meant, Starlet.
Toyota did sell the Corolla coupe in RWD trim in the early 80s as well, but I guess that was classified as a compact.
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1964 Buick Wildcat. Needs whitewalls to look Period Correct. nice cars!
That car reminds me of a childhood friend's parents' 1965 Wildcat Deluxe 4-door hardtop (different bodystyle). The fuel filler in back was the coolest thing...the round Buick emblem was hinged but pulled out completely towards you. I always remember that.
Nice. Man want.
That Buick is gorgeous!
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I saw a '64 Wildcat convertible at a car show a couple of years ago and it was just stunning!
Yellow with black interior.
It had the 425 engine with 2 4bbls and a factory 4 speed. Every option they offered that year I believe.
Yep, the big Buicks of the mid '60s had a mystique about them; they looked and drove great. I had occasion to drive a '62 Electra convertible and a '65 Wildcat 4 door ht.
Very cool.
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Andys, do you remember the gas filler on the '65 Wildcat? As a kid I thought that seemed so...deluxe.
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1992-ish Honda Civic Wagon? I always thought that was one of the best room-for-the-size cars out there, I fit in the back seat after setting the front seat for my 6'5" size, plenty of headroom, too.
Yup it's a 1989 Honda Civic Wagon, as fitted with "Real Time 4WD" a system similar to the Haldex system now in widespread use on AWD vehicles.
yup, that's
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Man wants. Y'all can have the Buick.
Another example of a car with great visibility.
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every time I drive my TL (a 2000) I am amazed by how low it is, particularly the trunk lid, and how large the glass area is. Feels like a real throwback. Even an Elantra towers over it.
but much nicer for backing up in a parking lot, without a backup cam. Changing lanes too is less of an adventure.
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