Wow, no passenger side mirror on the Honda. I thought by 89 most cars had that standard.
RE: visibility, believe it or not my Grand Marquis is easier to park and backup (without sensors or cam) than my LaCrosse. That car is the poster child for poor site lines. Basically you are driving a bathtub (a powerful , great riding one at least!).
I remember looking at a wagon identical to that one, back around 1996. It was way above my means then, but it seemed pretty cool. No doubt they have a cult behind them, kind of like how mint 90-93 Accords can still bring respectable money.
Speaking of rear visibility, this is a very easy to park car. Low beltline, thin pillars, wraparound glass. It even has fender extensions to aid in parking...I mean, fins. MB used the parking aid angle in explaining the fins, as they didn't want to admit they fell for a fad (pic taken yesterday)
That's one of the things I love about my 93 Accord beater. Perfect size, not too chunky, and huge windows coupled with a low beltline makes it one of the best cars for visibility.
Yep, college parking lot battle scar. Hit and run, of course - I seem to remember finding pieces of reflector around it back when it happened in maybe 1999. Looks worse in pics than in reality, and as the chrome is nice otherwise, I just call it "patina" now
We have two CRVS both bought new. The 2003 that I drive is nimble and easy to see out of.
The 2013 feels clumsy and I hate the lack of visibility. The electric power steering is numb and the car just feels awkward. I really don't like driving it.
Yes, it's safer, quieter and more powerful. I still don't really like it.
Those 90-93 Accords are about as classic as a Honda sedan gets. I remember when they were new, they even seemed to have a little BMW design soundness to them. Very durable too, if maintained - maybe overbuilt just a little.
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That's one of the things I love about my 93 Accord beater. Perfect size, not too chunky, and huge windows coupled with a low beltline makes it one of the best cars for visibility.
Yeah mine has 200k miles on it and I use it as a daily commuter. Paid $700 for it. Not many other cars you can spend under $1k for and be comfortable driving every day. The only thing I had to do after getting it is front rotora and pads.
My aunt bought a new CRV just before Christmas - her 07 4-Runner was becoming too big for her, and she was hitting things when parking. I don't know if the CRV will end better - they seem a lot bigger now than the first ones.
An Accord of that era for under a grand would be pretty horrible looking here - you must have found a deal, boomchek. My brother's $800 1983 Toyota pickup with the new wave paint package is still going strong, and he loves it - has no desire to find something else. It's only had a few hiccups in the 5 years since he bought it - he doesn't have a 40 mile daily commute grind though. Eventually, the body will go before the engine ever fails.
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We have two CRVS both bought new. The 2003 that I drive is nimble and easy to see out
I do like your fintail!!
Surprisingly there are plenty of these Accords here for sale for around a thousand bucks. Mine has a few minor rust spots but the girl that sold it to me said her dad was a mechanic and maintained it. When i buy a beater to commute I calculate that if I get the equivalent life out of it what I'd spend in car payments I'm happy. So if I were to lease or buy a cheap commuter I'd be paying about $300/month. I'm into this one for about $1000 with the brakes I did, so that's about 3 months in car payments. I had it since december so it basically owes me nothing as i got 3+ months of driving out of it already. If I flip it for what I bought it for (like my last half a dozen commuters) then I basically had a free car to commute in.
Most cars in Seattle for that money seem to look like they were used as meth running vehicles for awhile. A really pristine 90-93 will set you back 5K easily.
You have a fun system for commuters, if only I could be so ambitious. I don't want to have to deal with issues on an everyday car - the old car has more than enough to keep me busy
Yes it's a fun way of driving a bunch of different cars without really having to spend money for doing so. Everything I ever wanted in the 90s is now available for dirt cheap.
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Most cars in Seattle for that money seem to look like they were used as meth running vehicles for awhile. A really pristine 90-93 will set you back 5K easily.
You have a fun system for commuters, if only I could be so ambitious. I don't want to have to deal with issues on an everyday car - the old car has more than enough to keep me busy
Yep, you nailed it!
Back around 1999, I took in the most pristine 1992 EX Accord.
It belonged to an old lady and it had a whopping 24,000 miles on it.
Of course, she had friends and neighbors who wanted it but we were able to come to terms by paying well over RETAIL book for it.
I don't recall what we ended up selling it for but I know it sold the next day after we detailed and ran it through our shop.
We did replace the timing belt, water pump and drive belts due to age.
A shopper going by what the books said would never have bought it.
1996-2000 Civic Hatchbacks busted the banks too. Especially automatics with A/C.
Looks like an Austin 1100 from the late 60s, paint and wheels updated of course.
Regarding that mint old Accord - the books are wrong on many cars. Anything with a cult behind it is never accounted for, as prices are hard to predict. You'll get more than retail book for a mint one owner low mile 30 year old MB diesel, too.
Late variation of the ADO16, initially sold as the Morris 1100. This looks like an Austin and something tells me it might have the 1275cc A4 engine. There were so many variations of the basic model, all badge engineered, that it can be hard to pick.
It's a ca. 1970 Austin but not a Marina. It's a 1972 Austin 1300GT, essentially the same car they sold here as the Austin America but without the automatic transmission. It's one of many variants of BMC's ADO16 platform which used the running gear and chassis architecture of the Mini on a larger platform. They were often referred to as "Maxis" and like the Mini, were designed by Sir Alex Issoginis.
These cars featured a huge amount of interior room on a smallish platform. Aside from the Austin America ADO16s were most commonly seen in the US (ca. mid '60s) as the MG 1100.
When my dad brought the Countryman from Sweden to Poland it was a rare sight amid all the communist era eastern block cars. I remember him working on it quite a bit too.
There's a Renault Dauphine on the right following a 1960 Chevrolet Impala "bubbletop" and a 1962 Ford which is behind a VW Bug and (I think) a '59 Plymouth. I can't ID the pickup or the car on front of it.
I see a white 60 Ford 4dr far left, like what I learned to drive in. I wonder if it's a 3 on the tree stripper too? Doesn't appear to have rusted rocker panels yet. Maybe a 56 Lincoln between the 59 Chevy sedan and the 58 Chevy wagon?
The 46 had 16 inch wheels painted the body color with contrasting stripes. The 47 wheels had white "beauty rings". The 48 had 7.50 x 15 low pressure tires.
If one clicks on the pic once or twice, they can view a much larger copy, with easier to identify cars.
An oddity I think I spot on the ramp is an early TR4, in front of what looks like a 61 Buick, which is in front of a 58-60 T-Bird with a continental kit. The pickup heading off to the right looks like a 61-62 Ford. And under the word "Seattle" at right, a darker colored car, appears to be a lower line fintail (maybe a 220b - base W111 with single bumpers and small tail lights).
You missed the one of the JC Penny wall that fell in Anchorage and crushed a row of cars. Seems like I posted that one umpteen years ago. I only remember seeing a couple of these before, nice collection.
Looks like a Jeepster in the first pic; no idea where the photo was taken.
Oddballs indeed, an Isetta sitting atop a '61 Ford (2nd pic down) and a TR-4 under a house. I'm not sure about the car sitting tail up with it's nose under a house (3rd from bottom), it could be a Lancia Appia or Aurelia berlina.
That 1964 Anchorage earthquake was massive, something like a 9 on the Richter scale if I remember right. Can you imagine the results if that has happened somewhere like Seattle or San Francisco? Painful to look at those lost cars, but more painful to think of the damage and personal losses that resulted.
That TR-4 under a house was in the Turnagain neighborhood of Anchorage, I'm pretty sure. About 15 years ago they changed the zoning and allowed home construction there again. It's near the water (great views) but the soil just liquefies like Jello when shaken. The quake was 9.2, second largest earthquake in recorded history per Wikipedia.
Looks like a Jeepster in the first pic; no idea where the photo was taken.
Definitely not a Jeepster, it's a Willys All-Steel wagon. Wikipedia says the "All-Steel" (introduced in 1946) really was the first passenger station wagon made completely of steel and the precursor of the truck-based SUV
I hope they can drive pilings to some sort of bedrock.
G'day
The difficulty of getting secure foundations into liquified ground is a big problem. In Christchurch, New Zealand, we are having to pile down 27m (about 90 ft) which is fine for a major buildiing. Does not make economic sense for a residence.
Liquified ground is a real problem. Wierdly, when the quake stops, it leaves waves in the bliquified ground. Driving from Christchurch towatd the coast is now l like driving over low dunes. I must however remember to take some photos there. The range of grey import cars in New Zealand is huge so they see many cars we do not see in Australia
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Wow, no passenger side mirror on the Honda. I thought by 89 most cars had that standard.
RE: visibility, believe it or not my Grand Marquis is easier to park and backup (without sensors or cam) than my LaCrosse. That car is the poster child for poor site lines. Basically you are driving a bathtub (a powerful , great riding one at least!).
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I had new '81 and '82 Chevys, and the '82 had a right-hand mirror standard.
That Civic Wagon is a car that will, literally break the bank money wise.
You can throw away the books on that one especially since it's a 4WD.
Add an automatic and air conditioning and as good as that one looks it could easily break the 8000.00 mark or maybe even more!
I remember looking at a wagon identical to that one, back around 1996. It was way above my means then, but it seemed pretty cool. No doubt they have a cult behind them, kind of like how mint 90-93 Accords can still bring respectable money.
Speaking of rear visibility, this is a very easy to park car. Low beltline, thin pillars, wraparound glass. It even has fender extensions to aid in parking...I mean, fins. MB used the parking aid angle in explaining the fins, as they didn't want to admit they fell for a fad (pic taken yesterday)
Is that a dent in the bumper?
That's one of the things I love about my 93 Accord beater. Perfect size, not too chunky, and huge windows coupled with a low beltline makes it one of the best cars for visibility.
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Yep, college parking lot battle scar. Hit and run, of course - I seem to remember finding pieces of reflector around it back when it happened in maybe 1999. Looks worse in pics than in reality, and as the chrome is nice otherwise, I just call it "patina" now
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We have two CRVS both bought new. The 2003 that I drive is nimble and easy to see out of.
The 2013 feels clumsy and I hate the lack of visibility. The electric power steering is numb and the car just feels awkward. I really don't like driving it.
Yes, it's safer, quieter and more powerful. I still don't really like it.
I do like your fintail!!
Those 90-93 Accords are about as classic as a Honda sedan gets. I remember when they were new, they even seemed to have a little BMW design soundness to them. Very durable too, if maintained - maybe overbuilt just a little.
Yeah mine has 200k miles on it and I use it as a daily commuter. Paid $700 for it. Not many other cars you can spend under $1k for and be comfortable driving every day. The only thing I had to do after getting it is front rotora and pads.
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Probably an Opel Rekord A wagon at far left.
My aunt bought a new CRV just before Christmas - her 07 4-Runner was becoming too big for her, and she was hitting things when parking. I don't know if the CRV will end better - they seem a lot bigger now than the first ones.
An Accord of that era for under a grand would be pretty horrible looking here - you must have found a deal, boomchek. My brother's $800 1983 Toyota pickup with the new wave paint package is still going strong, and he loves it - has no desire to find something else. It's only had a few hiccups in the 5 years since he bought it - he doesn't have a 40 mile daily commute grind though. Eventually, the body will go before the engine ever fails.
Surprisingly there are plenty of these Accords here for sale for around a thousand bucks. Mine has a few minor rust spots but the girl that sold it to me said her dad was a mechanic and maintained it. When i buy a beater to commute I calculate that if I get the equivalent life out of it what I'd spend in car payments I'm happy. So if I were to lease or buy a cheap commuter I'd be paying about $300/month. I'm into this one for about $1000 with the brakes I did, so that's about 3 months in car payments. I had it since december so it basically owes me nothing as i got 3+ months of driving out of it already. If I flip it for what I bought it for (like my last half a dozen commuters) then I basically had a free car to commute in.
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Most cars in Seattle for that money seem to look like they were used as meth running vehicles for awhile. A really pristine 90-93 will set you back 5K easily.
You have a fun system for commuters, if only I could be so ambitious. I don't want to have to deal with issues on an everyday car - the old car has more than enough to keep me busy
Yes it's a fun way of driving a bunch of different cars without really having to spend money for doing so. Everything I ever wanted in the 90s is now available for dirt cheap.
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Yep, you nailed it!
Back around 1999, I took in the most pristine 1992 EX Accord.
It belonged to an old lady and it had a whopping 24,000 miles on it.
Of course, she had friends and neighbors who wanted it but we were able to come to terms by paying well over RETAIL book for it.
I don't recall what we ended up selling it for but I know it sold the next day after we detailed and ran it through our shop.
We did replace the timing belt, water pump and drive belts due to age.
A shopper going by what the books said would never have bought it.
1996-2000 Civic Hatchbacks busted the banks too. Especially automatics with A/C.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
I'll take a guess at the shadow ... andys120?
Austin marina? About 1970
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Looks like an Austin 1100 from the late 60s, paint and wheels updated of course.
Regarding that mint old Accord - the books are wrong on many cars. Anything with a cult behind it is never accounted for, as prices are hard to predict. You'll get more than retail book for a mint one owner low mile 30 year old MB diesel, too.
G'day
Late variation of the ADO16, initially sold as the Morris 1100. This looks like an Austin and something tells me it might have the 1275cc A4 engine. There were so many variations of the basic model, all badge engineered, that it can be hard to pick.
The wheels could be correct for the period.
Cheers
Graham
We had the countryman version of it in the 70s. Austin 1300 Countryman. Here it is with my mom pregnant with me in '77.
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It's a ca. 1970 Austin but not a Marina. It's a 1972 Austin 1300GT, essentially the same car they sold here as the Austin America but without the automatic transmission. It's one of many variants of BMC's ADO16 platform which used the running gear and chassis architecture of the Mini on a larger platform. They were often referred to as "Maxis" and like the Mini, were designed by Sir Alex Issoginis.
These cars featured a huge amount of interior room on a smallish platform. Aside from the Austin America ADO16s were most commonly seen in the US (ca. mid '60s) as the MG 1100.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
When my dad brought the Countryman from Sweden to Poland it was a rare sight amid all the communist era eastern block cars. I remember him working on it quite a bit too.
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Portland, 1962 (apparently)
See two Bugs driving and one parked.
There's a Renault Dauphine on the right following a 1960 Chevrolet Impala "bubbletop" and a 1962 Ford which is behind a VW Bug and (I think) a '59 Plymouth. I can't ID the pickup or the car on front of it.
I'll leave the other lanes to youse
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
I see a white 60 Ford 4dr far left, like what I learned to drive in. I wonder if it's a 3 on the tree stripper too? Doesn't appear to have rusted rocker panels yet. Maybe a 56 Lincoln between the 59 Chevy sedan and the 58 Chevy wagon?
Depending on the wheels/tires, a 46 or 47 or 48 Plymouth.
Is that the only way to tell those 46-48 Plymouths apart?
I never could see any differences between them.
52-53 Ford at left. 59 Fordbehind the big truck.
The 46 had 16 inch wheels painted the body color with contrasting stripes. The 47 wheels had white "beauty rings". The 48 had 7.50 x 15 low pressure tires.
If one clicks on the pic once or twice, they can view a much larger copy, with easier to identify cars.
An oddity I think I spot on the ramp is an early TR4, in front of what looks like a 61 Buick, which is in front of a 58-60 T-Bird with a continental kit. The pickup heading off to the right looks like a 61-62 Ford. And under the word "Seattle" at right, a darker colored car, appears to be a lower line fintail (maybe a 220b - base W111 with single bumpers and small tail lights).
Couple of Corvairs.....Ah, I see that Plymouth has 7.50 X 15 tires, so it must be a '48
???
Mid 80's Toyota Crown
(it doesn't help that when you use the "quote" button, the URL of the image, with the model name, is displayed rather than the picture)
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Today is the 50th anniversary of the big Alaska Earthquake. Here are some cars, a few unexpected oddballs included:
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You missed the one of the JC Penny wall that fell in Anchorage and crushed a row of cars. Seems like I posted that one umpteen years ago. I only remember seeing a couple of these before, nice collection.
Looks like a Jeepster in the first pic; no idea where the photo was taken.
4 door isetta, mini, Volvo 544 are interesting. Is the sports car crushed under the house a TR4, because it almost looks like a DB instead
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Oddballs indeed, an Isetta sitting atop a '61 Ford (2nd pic down) and a TR-4 under a house. I'm not sure about the car sitting tail up with it's nose under a house (3rd from bottom), it could be a Lancia Appia or Aurelia berlina.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
That 1964 Anchorage earthquake was massive, something like a 9 on the Richter scale if I remember right. Can you imagine the results if that has happened somewhere like Seattle or San Francisco? Painful to look at those lost cars, but more painful to think of the damage and personal losses that resulted.
That TR-4 under a house was in the Turnagain neighborhood of Anchorage, I'm pretty sure. About 15 years ago they changed the zoning and allowed home construction there again. It's near the water (great views) but the soil just liquefies like Jello when shaken. The quake was 9.2, second largest earthquake in recorded history per Wikipedia.
I hope they can drive pilings to some sort of bedrock.
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Definitely not a Jeepster, it's a Willys All-Steel wagon. Wikipedia says the "All-Steel" (introduced in 1946) really was the first passenger station wagon made completely of steel and the precursor of the truck-based SUV
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I don't think so, the ground is sand/shale for more than a thousand feet in that area.
Liquified ground is @stickguy said:
G'day
The difficulty of getting secure foundations into liquified ground is a big problem. In Christchurch, New Zealand, we are having to pile down 27m (about 90 ft) which is fine for a major buildiing. Does not make economic sense for a residence.
Liquified ground is a real problem. Wierdly, when the quake stops, it leaves waves in the bliquified ground. Driving from Christchurch towatd the coast is now l like driving over low dunes. I must however remember to take some photos there. The range of grey import cars in New Zealand is huge so they see many cars we do not see in Australia
Cheers
Graham
Graham - I always thought you were in Oz, not NZ. Some good friends of my parents live in Christchurch.
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