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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    edited May 2015
    fintail said:

    Yep Kingdome, appears to be in the final stages of construction. I know it opened in the spring of 76.

    Not just a lack of foreign cars, but a lack of Japanese cars - I see a few Germans in the pic, but only one or two that could possibly be Japanese, and they are so far away it's hard to tell.


    Sorry - I didn't mean to post this - once you start a quote I don't know how to cancel it - it just stays there until you post it. I was trying to reply on the green British car to say I think I have a photo of that exact car taken at a similar damp field - typical British car show.

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,955
    magnette said:

    fintail said:

    Yep Kingdome, appears to be in the final stages of construction. I know it opened in the spring of 76.

    Not just a lack of foreign cars, but a lack of Japanese cars - I see a few Germans in the pic, but only one or two that could possibly be Japanese, and they are so far away it's hard to tell.


    Sorry - I didn't mean to post this - once you start a quote I don't know how to cancel it - it just stays there until you post it. I was trying to reply on the green British car to say I think I have a photo of that exact car taken at a similar damp field - typical British car show.

    If you quote something mistakenly, you can highlight and delete it, then go back up and quote a different post..

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    kyfdx said:

    magnette said:

    fintail said:

    Yep Kingdome, appears to be in the final stages of construction. I know it opened in the spring of 76.

    Not just a lack of foreign cars, but a lack of Japanese cars - I see a few Germans in the pic, but only one or two that could possibly be Japanese, and they are so far away it's hard to tell.


    Sorry - I didn't mean to post this - once you start a quote I don't know how to cancel it - it just stays there until you post it. I was trying to reply on the green British car to say I think I have a photo of that exact car taken at a similar damp field - typical British car show.

    If you quote something mistakenly, you can highlight and delete it, then go back up and quote a different post..


    Thanks - I seem to have got stuck when I tried earlier but it was probably me....
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    edited May 2015


    Well, the estate car to the left is a Ford Granada - built in Germany. Also you can see a white Morris 1000 Minor beyond it and the corner of a Triumph Stag to the right.

    I'll leave the actual subject car as it is known over here but probably unheard of abroad.

    Suffice it to say if you drove it you would probably be shaken but not stirred.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Augggh, my eyes!

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,430
    edited May 2015
    That gives it away - Bond Equipe, or some variant of it.

    The Ford wagon looks much like the one from the underrated "European Vacation"

    image

    "I've had that bump for ages, now I've got an excuse to get it fixed" :)
    magnette said:



    Well, the estate car to the left is a Ford Granada - built in Germany. Also you can see a white Morris 1000 Minor beyond it and the corner of a Triumph Stag to the right.

    I'll leave the actual subject car as it is known over here but probably unheard of abroad.

    Suffice it to say if you drove it you would probably be shaken but not stirred.

  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    edited May 2015
    fintail said:

    That gives it away - Bond Equipe, or some variant of it.

    The Ford wagon looks much like the one from the underrated "European Vacation"

    image

    "I've had that bump for ages, now I've got an excuse to get it fixed" :)











    That film was on TV here last night...

  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    edited May 2015
    Try this one




    Goodnight
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,430
    Alfa Romeo Arna, a puzzling car based on a Nissan Sunny, I think.
    magnette said:

    Try this one



    Goodnight

  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    edited May 2015



    G'day

    I think this one may have appeared on these pages in the past. Spearmint is not an attractive colour on any car, and certainly not here. The windscreen frame and the bonnet catches on the forward opening bonnet, give it away as Triumph Herald derived.

    This is a Bond Equipe GT4S from mid 1960's. Bond are more famous for a very peculiar thing called the Bond Bug, although this was actually made by Reliant, which had acquired the Bond name in the late 1960's.

    Cheers

    GRaham
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    First posted in 2005 (image link is unfortunately dead). Other posts in most odd numbered years (appropriately enough?).
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    fintail said:

    Alfa Romeo Arna, a puzzling car based on a Nissan Sunny, I think.

    magnette said:

    Try this one



    Goodnight

    Yes, the Arna was a strange beast but it was based on what we had as a Nissan Cherry (in some markets it would have been a Nissan Pulsar I believe) - there was also a Nissan Cherry Europa which was the Nissan car but with an Alfa engine.

    I think I read somewhere that there are no Arnas left on the road in Britain and there will be few elsewhere in Europe and I hardly saw any when they were on sale. As for the Nissan Cherry Europa I imagine that went years ago too - I can only remember seeing a few when they were new - all that differed externally was the badges. .
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    Another one



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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,430
    In NA, we only had 2 versions of the Pulsar. First, this thing:

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    Which I kind of liked when I was a kid - although unpretty, the pop up lights and sharp angles made it unique. A mainstay in high school parking lots here into the 90s.

    And then this one, which was also kind of cool:

    image

    As it had modular rear sections:

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    These are extremely rare today.
    magnette said:


    Yes, the Arna was a strange beast but it was based on what we had as a Nissan Cherry (in some markets it would have been a Nissan Pulsar I believe) - there was also a Nissan Cherry Europa which was the Nissan car but with an Alfa engine.

    I think I read somewhere that there are no Arnas left on the road in Britain and there will be few elsewhere in Europe and I hardly saw any when they were on sale. As for the Nissan Cherry Europa I imagine that went years ago too - I can only remember seeing a few when they were new - all that differed externally was the badges. .

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,430
    Based on the mirrors, I will guess Isuzu Gemini.

    Sold in the US as an Isuzu I-Mark and a Buick-Opel, maybe.
    magnette said:

    Another one



  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    fintail said:

    Based on the mirrors, I will guess Isuzu Gemini.

    Sold in the US as an Isuzu I-Mark and a Buick-Opel, maybe.

    magnette said:

    Another one



    That didn't take long - Isuzu Bellett Gemini - I think this one is JDM
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    This one is postwar despite appearances to the contrary...


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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,430
    Renault Juvaquatre, kind of like the Ford Pop or similar of France, I think in production for 20+ years
    magnette said:

    This one is postwar despite appearances to the contrary...


  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,731
    I thought Magnette was referring to the Porsche. :)
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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670


    It's obviously a racer but it raced in Production Sport classes (AP). Not many saw steet use but a few did.



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  • stewardrobbinsstewardrobbins Member Posts: 41
    It's a Cheetah!
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670


    Steward is correct, that is a mid-60s Thomas Cheetah using Corvette Stingray mechanicals and an Aluminum body/chassis.
    It was designed by a guy named Bill Thomas to try and beat the Shelby Cobra-Fords which it did on several occasions but not consistently due to various design problems including tendencies to overheat both drivers and motors

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    fintail said:

    Renault Juvaquatre, kind of like the Ford Pop or similar of France, I think in production for 20+ years


    magnette said:

    This one is postwar despite appearances to the contrary...



    Sorry - I have been away from the computer for days.

    This is indeed a Renault Juvaquatre - this estate version was known as the Dauphinoise (or something similar) and outlived the saloon by a number of years. I think that it lasted so long because the equivalent Renault saloons - initially the 4CV / 750 and later the Dauphine were rear engined with a vertical block and hence had problems with providing a suitable layout for a van or commercial. So the pre-war Juvaquatre, which had bee based on a copy of an Opel Kadett or something, soldiered on for years.

    It went by about 1960, but its true successor would have been the Renault 4 which provided similar accommodation but with far better performance.

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    andys120 said:



    Steward is correct, that is a mid-60s Thomas Cheetah using Corvette Stingray mechanicals and an Aluminum body/chassis.
    It was designed by a guy named Bill Thomas to try and beat the Shelby Cobra-Fords which it did on several occasions but not consistently due to various design problems including tendencies to overheat both drivers and motors

    If I remember correctly, the Cheetah was unique in that there was no driveshaft. The transmission was hooked up directly to the differential. Seems plausible, when you look at the thing. It has Death Wish written all over it, doesn't it?
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,108
    And folks thought a Shelby Cobra had squirrely handling!
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,108
    Saw one last week in Pittsburgh-
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    Ahh - a visitor from Canadia. That's a Chevy Orlando.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited May 2015
    @Mr_Shiftright, Wiki said the "driveshaft" was so short, it was essentially a universal joint.

    Looks a bit scary with the gas filler behind the driver and having to contort yourself to get out of the cockpit (shoot, you had to straddle the engine to drive it). Doesn't look like a Nomex kind of suit that the driver is wearing either.

    @texases, let me guess - that's a Dawn shot?
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,108
    I was going to ask if 'Tony' owned one, but no need for a clue, obviously! I never new the Orlando existed until I saw it...
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    texases said:

    I was going to ask if 'Tony' owned one, but no need for a clue, obviously! I never new the Orlando existed until I saw it...



    We get the Orlando here too...
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    This one appears obvious but it is a bit different


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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,430
    Hillman Minx with maybe a Japanese connection?
    magnette said:

    This one appears obvious but it is a bit different


  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    edited May 2015
    fintail said:

    Hillman Minx with maybe a Japanese connection?

    magnette said:

    This one appears obvious but it is a bit different


    Yes - but which company was the connection?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    magnette said:

    This one appears obvious but it is a bit different


    It's gotta be an early 60s Hillman Minx; I can make out the word Minx on the flank. This particular iteration of the Minx was sold as a Sunbeam Minx and a Humber 60 outside the USA. a

    Rootes Group cars enjoyed a short-lived spate of popularity during the heyday of Euro imports (late 60s-mid 60s). The Minx was fairly popular where I grew up, usually as a second car to back up the big wagon or sedan..


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  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    Rootes Audax body but the setting looks wrong, so I am guessing Japan. Raymond Loewy had some influence on the design which has hints of Studebaker to it.

    Somewhere I have read a book about the Japanese concept of copying, which in later years cascaded into Korea and China. I assume that the Rootes Audax body style was licensed.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    You are onto something Graham. I'd never noticed the resemblance to Studes before but now I can see it and I checked the Wikipedia entry which says that Raymond Loewy influenced the design. Wikipedia also notes that Japan was one of the several countries where the Minx was assermbled.

    The tennis players look vaguely Asian and the car is wrong-hand drive

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Shifty's station wagon is a Skoda Octavia Combi. These were made from 1959-71 according to Wikipedia.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,108
    edited May 2015
    A very hotted-up 1967 Ranchero. A roll cage and BIG rear tires - I'd like to see what's under the hood!
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,731
    @Texases, Good powers of observation.
    I find it kind of funny it has Oregon plates.
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  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    The Hillman Minx in the wrong setting is explained by the following 1953 article in The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA) Tuesday 12 May 1953

    Japan Assembly
    Of Hillmans
    Britain's car concern, the
    Rootes Group, has signed a
    technical tie-up with the
    Isuzu Motor Co. for thfi
    issembly and eventual ?
    manufacture in Japan of,1
    Hillman Minx cars, says
    Richard Hughes in Tokio.
    Under the agreement, ap
    proved by the Japanese Gov
    ernment, Isuzu will import i
    the cars completely knocked
    down and assemble them at
    the big Omori works.
    Arrangements have been
    made for Isuzu to manufac
    ture component parts and for
    Isuzu engineers to go to
    England to study at Rootes
    Group plants, schools and
    service stations. Rootes and
    Isuzu have also entered into
    partnership for sales, distri
    bution and servicing of the
    cars assembled by Isuzu.
    Rootes thus becomes the
    second major British auto
    mobile firm to announce the
    assembly of cars in Japan:
    Austins are being assembled
    already by the Nissan Motor
    Co.

    The end of the relationship is described in an article in The Canberra Times Previous of Wednesday 18 November 1964


    Japanese
    end Rootes
    link
    TOKYO, Tuesday (A.A.
    P.-Rcutcr). — The Isiizii
    Motor Company Lid.,
    Japanese manufacturers
    of lhe ItcIIcK car, plans lo
    (crminalc its tie-up with
    I lie Rootes Group of
    Britain, it Announced to
    day.
    The move, to be taken
    next March when the pre
    sent contract for technical
    assistance from Rootes ends,
    represents the final step in
    the Japanese automobile
    industry's movement to
    wards technical indepen
    dence of foreign firms.
    An Isuzu spokesman said
    his firm had assembled
    about 60,000 Millman cars
    since 1953 under a liccncc
    from the Rootes Company,
    at a cost of about £618,750
    in royalties.
    The technical tie-up was
    no longer required, he said,
    as his firm had learned
    most of the British tech
    niques and was now making
    passenger cars with its own
    methods. |i

    The Isuzu Bellett was introduced (in Australia) in 1964. They were a radically better car than the Rootes Audax.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    A lot of Yank styling influence on this little car>

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,389
    That's a nice looking car.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    That reminds me of the Renault Floride. I don't see too much Yankee about it...more Italian to my eye in design, but probably a Peugeot or Simca.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited May 2015

    That reminds me of the Renault Floride. I don't see too much Yankee about it...more Italian to my eye in design, but probably a Peugeot or Simca.

    White wall tires, chromed full wheel covers and tailfins; that says "50s Yank" to me but is indeed a Simca. Anyone want to say which model?

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    where are the tailfins? Maybe we need a rear view. The only "yank" thing I see immediately is the windshield but yeah, I think you're right----wide whites are definitely an American invention---pretty much extinct here by the early 60s however. White walls go way back in time, probably 100 years.
  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,399

    where are the tailfins? Maybe we need a rear view. The only "yank" thing I see immediately is the windshield but yeah, I think you're right----wide whites are definitely an American invention---pretty much extinct here by the early 60s however. White walls go way back in time, probably 100 years.

    The front end screams 57 Tbird as does the windshield!
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

    where are the tailfins? Maybe we need a rear view.

    It's no '59 Caddy but it's as "finny" as Eurocars get.>


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  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,598
    tmart said:

    where are the tailfins? Maybe we need a rear view. The only "yank" thing I see immediately is the windshield but yeah, I think you're right----wide whites are definitely an American invention---pretty much extinct here by the early 60s however. White walls go way back in time, probably 100 years.

    The front end screams 57 Tbird as does the windshield!
    In these somewhat aged eyes, the front end looks enough like a '56 Chrysler to trigger a law suit. Specifically a New Yorker. Just my $0.02 worth.

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