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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    fintail said:



    I have a Dinky Sunbeam Talbot, one I found maybe 20 years ago from an antique dealer friend of the family, who sold it to me for about $5, I think:

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    Looks just like my old one!

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    Try this one then...


  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited August 2016
    Definite 60s GM-ness on that one and Wrong Hand Drive sez Vauxhall.... Cresta? Victor?

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    edited August 2016
    You're on the right lines but it isn't a Vauxhall...
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Holden!

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    Yes it is a Holden - this one is an EH from 1966.

    I think Dinky made a model of this car ( it was gold and had a white roof in the catalogue) which was one I wanted as a kid but I never saw one - probably most of them were exported to Australia where the real car was a best seller...
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    This one might be a bit easier


  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    This one isn't and in fairness it is possibly a little too rare for our criteria as they built about ten not twelve or more, apparently....


  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,598
    magnette said:

    This one might be a bit easier


    Oh good. I get to redeem myself for missing the Holden. This is a P1900, Volvo's first (and unsuccessful) sports car.

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  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,399
    edited August 2016
    magnette said:

    This one isn't and in fairness it is possibly a little too rare for our criteria as they built about ten not twelve or more, apparently....


    magnette said:

    This one isn't and in fairness it is possibly a little too rare for our criteria as they built about ten not twelve or more, apparently....


    Have not a clue, but it looks like a 55-56 Tbird front end on a 52-53 Ford body, so maybe some kinda Ford?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    magnette said:

    This one isn't and in fairness it is possibly a little too rare for our criteria as they built about ten not twelve or more, apparently....


    Definitely Fordish, probably French, Vedettes and their ilk were not that rare, perhaps an interim Simca version
    that was part of the transition from Ford ownership.

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    edited August 2016
    bhill2 said:

    magnette said:

    This one might be a bit easier

    Oh good. I get to redeem myself for missing the Holden. This is a P1900, Volvo's first (and unsuccessful) sports car.





    Yes - its a P1900 from 1956
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    It does look like a Ford - especially a European one - but it is much rarer and not from a country which even made cars then... There is no connection to Ford although they may have copied one I suppose.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    magnette said:

    It does look like a Ford - especially a European one - but it is much rarer and not from a country which even made cars then... There is no connection to Ford although they may have copied one I suppose.

    We're gonna need more help than that.

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,109
    magnette said:

    It does look like a Ford - especially a European one - but it is much rarer and not from a country which even made cars then... There is no connection to Ford although they may have copied one I suppose.

    Now you're just messin' with us!
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,393
    The front end looks like a copy of the tri 5 Chevy nose.

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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Maybe it is photo-shopped - just kidding!
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    This car is from the far east....
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,109
    A Proto-Proton?
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    No - bigger country
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Iran? Turkey?

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    magnette said:

    It does look like a Ford - especially a European one - but it is much rarer and not from a country which even made cars then... There is no connection to Ford although they may have copied one I suppose.

    Not from a country which even made cars then? So they unmade this car? ya lost me.

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    Sorry -I must have been ambiguous. Now this country makes cars - loads of cars. When this one was made they didn't really have any car industry in the modern sense at all.

    I did say it was only in very limited numbers - what I mean is that this was effectively a sort of preproduction run but this particular model didn't get any further - but subsequently they built lots of other cars eventually.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    edited September 2016
    Sorry - this one isn't going anywhere. It is from China and was launched in 1959/60 - it is a Dong Feng and was one of the first attempts at making a passenger car in the Peoples Republic of China (they made lorries and buses etc but apart from a few limos they hadn't tried much with normal sized saloon / sedan models).

    Only made about ten so not a success.

  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    Streamliner...


  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,598
    Well, it's a Tatra, but my knowledge does not extend to model or year.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,431
    Tatra T603, likely an early run car.
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Dong Feng

    That's not an Asian airline pilot clipping the fence at SFO is it B)
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    berri said:

    Dong Feng

    That's not an Asian airline pilot clipping the fence at SFO is it B)



    ha ha
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    fintail said:

    Tatra T603, likely an early run car.


    yes, a 603 - this one is apparently 1960
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,431
    I'll pick off the W110 fintail. By the presence of a couple other cars, I'll wager this is in the Netherlands.
    andys120 said:


  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    The car with its brake lights on is an NSU - probably a Prinz4. The small sports car is a Spitfire... And the car in the right foreground almost obscured by the pedestrian is a Renault 16/
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,393
    is that a '67 barracuda in the back row?

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    stickguy said:

    is that a '67 barracuda in the back row?

    It looks a bit like a 'Cuda but I think it's a late 60s Opel Commodore>


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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,012
    My first thought from the picture was an Opel Manta.

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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I think Buick dealers used to sell Opel Mantra's in the Chicago area for awhile?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    kyfdx said:

    My first thought from the picture was an Opel Manta.

    It's too big for a Manta, and yes those were sold in the USA by Buick-Opel dealers.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,393
    I had a 75 Manta. was a great driving car. when it ran.

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    No less than three DAF's - all appear to be 33s. Also I can now see another Renault 16 - lady just getting out of it parked in front of the fintail ...
    The small coupe next to her as she does so is another Opel coupe - this one is a Kadett A Coupe which was made from 1962-5.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Sandwiched between a DAF and the Fintail is a Euro-Ford, probably a Taunus but could be a British Granada.
    To the left by it's lonesome, an Alfa-Romeo Sprint Giulia 1600/1300 or one of the variants of the beautiful Bertone coupe.

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    Yes - it's a Taunus.

    Also in the far background is a Hillman Imp.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,431
    Fintail might be the oldest car there, or almost the oldest at the very least.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    edited September 2016
    Yes, you are probably right although the Fiat 600 between the Spitfire and the Imp could potentially be older.

  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    edited September 2016
    Just sweeping up a couple of others - in the back row is a Simca 1000 - it looks like it has slats on the rear window. Also a Peugeot 204 on the left in the distance with what I think is a Renault 6 just beyond it.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    Well that grille could be any time after the late 70's but the Renault 4 was manufactured to the end of 1992 - in fact I think it may have scraped into 1993. This one is registered in Italy although the plate isn't complete. They did make these under licence in a few other countries - notably Yugoslavia (the part now Slovenia) from the 70's to about 1992 as well. In Italy Alfa Romeo made them under licence for a year or two but that was in the 60's and this car appears to be later.
    I think the present Pope was given one (an old one) at some stage, too.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Yup, that is an early 90s, Italian-spec Renault 4TL.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    its a Euro Ford Granada - some of the lower spec models were sold as Consuls in Britain but I think in Germany where this one is registered (Berlin) they were all Granadas.

    It is the Mk 1 and I think the one after the first facelift so abut 1974/5 I would imagine.
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