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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,654
    Pagoda was W113. Started off as 230SL, related to the engine in my fintail. Modified in a short run to 250SL, then the popular 280SL, which seems to be a bit of a different animal on the road - significantly more power, but not as revvy and sporty feeling.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,654
    The orangey car is an US spec Austin Marina, a lovely BL car sold on this side of the pond for a couple years in the early-mid 70s (maybe not making it past the catalytic converter) I doubt many made it past the mid 80s.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    fintail said:

    The orangey car is an US spec Austin Marina, a lovely BL car sold on this side of the pond for a couple years in the early-mid 70s (maybe not making it past the catalytic converter) I doubt many made it past the mid 80s.

    You're correct. It's a '75 Marina originally sold in Canada then exported to the US. I'm not sue I've ever actually seen one.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,827
    1970ish AMC javelin. With the big engine (401). AMX model. Not the same with a back seat.

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  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    Looks like a '72 with Go Pack if that's a stripe on the hood instead of some reflection in the pic.
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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    omarman said:

    Looks like a '72 with Go Pack if that's a stripe on the hood instead of some reflection in the pic.

    It's a '72 AMC Javelin AMX that came originally w a 361 CID V8 and was converted to 401 CID. That is a stripe but the ad says nothing about a Pack option.

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-amc-javelin/LINK

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    andys120 said:

    omarman said:

    Looks like a '72 with Go Pack if that's a stripe on the hood instead of some reflection in the pic.

    It's a '72 AMC Javelin AMX that came originally w a 361 CID V8 and was converted to 401 CID. That is a stripe but the ad says nothing about a Pack option.

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-amc-javelin/LINK
    Current bid is just about market correct. The mods probably don't matter one way or the other.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,827
    I love it. Would even more if they hadn’t trashed a 4 speed car putting in the slushbix!

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675

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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Some version of a 60's Ferrari is about as far as i can guess
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    IIRC, the Alabama state police bought some of those second gen Javelin's instead of Mustangs, but soon found out that fender hump over the front wheels provided more than a little drag and could make handling a little tricky. I liked the look at the time though.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,654
    I think the Ferrari is a 330, unsure of the Suffix - GT/GTC/America etc
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    fintail said:

    I think the Ferrari is a 330, unsure of the Suffix - GT/GTC/America etc

    Nope, it's not a Ferrari 330 of any kind.
    berri said:

    Some version of a 60's Ferrari is about as far as i can guess

    Yes it is a 1960s Ferrari. Around 1000 of this four seat model were made from 1959-63 which made an important contribution to the financial well-being of Ferrari Sp.a

    Who wants to nail it down?


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  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702

    Survyvor. See what I did there?
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,654
    The date must mean it is a 250 GTE? I have seen the greenhouse on 330 cars, which is why I guessed, and I am used to hood scoops on 250 cars, although I am sure it wasn't required.
    andys120 said:



    Yes it is a 1960s Ferrari. Around 1000 of this four seat model were made from 1959-63 which made an important contribution to the financial well-being of Ferrari Sp.a

    Who wants to nail it down?


  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    edited February 2018
    fintail said:

    The date must mean it is a 250 GTE? I have seen the greenhouse on 330 cars, which is why I guessed, and I am used to hood scoops on 250 cars, although I am sure it wasn't required.


    Yes, it's the Ferrari that was known back in the day as the 250GT 2+2.
    It was Ferrari's first real attempt at a four seat Gran Turismo and succeeded nicely with a production run of around 1000.

    This car has been a favorite of mine since I first saw one on a used car lot in the mid-60s at the astronomical price of $14,000 :o It has gotten little love from collectors and a number were bought up and stripped of their bodies to create replica GTOs and California Spiders.
    Rising values have put a stop to that thankfully because I think it's a smashing looking car from all angles but particularly from the front and in dark colors.

    You're correct in noting that the roofline reappeared on subsequent Ferrari 2+2s (330/365) but then Pininfarina often recapitulated successful themes.

    For some reason the 250GT 2+2 is now known as the 250GTE, a terminology I never encountered back in the day.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 269,281
    omarman said:


    Survyvor. See what I did there?

    Chevy Monza. I'll go with '77

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  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,414
    omarman said:


    Survyvor. See what I did there?

    80 Monza Spyder.
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  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,414

    Olds, 68 Chevy, Stube, 57 Ford Fairlane 500, Olds.
  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    tmart said:

    omarman said:


    Survyvor. See what I did there?

    80 Monza Spyder.
    Correct. 1980 MONZA SYPDER SURVIVOR 4 SPD with Iron Duke 4 cyl.
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 269,281
    omarman said:

    tmart said:

    omarman said:


    Survyvor. See what I did there?

    80 Monza Spyder.
    Correct. 1980 MONZA SYPDER SURVIVOR 4 SPD with Iron Duke 4 cyl.
    You could get the Monza with a 305 V-8, at one point

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Not sure if it was on the Monza V-6 or V-8, but on one (or both) of those engines you had to lift the engine a few inches with a hoist in order to change one of the spark plugs.
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I think the identified Olds in picture may be Pontiacs
  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    berri said:

    I think the identified Olds in picture may be Pontiacs

    berri said:

    I think the identified Olds in picture may be Pontiacs

    Good eye!
    On the left - 1956 Pontiac
    On the right - 1955 Pontiac
  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,414
    Mr_Shiftright said:

    Not sure if it was on the Monza V-6 or V-8, but on one (or both) of those engines you had to lift the engine a few inches with a hoist in order to change one of the spark plugs.

    I think that was on the Vega, but could be wrong.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I don't think so, since the Vega was only a 4 cylinder.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,827
    It was the V8 Monza. I looked at a mid 70s one once, in HS or college. Cool for the day, a bright silver hatch. With a 4 speed of course. I think was a bit out of budget. But I remember the family mechanic who looked at it for me said don’t bring it there for service for that reason. Had to jack up engine to get to rear plugs. Not sure about any other components.

    Given what I drove in those days, a v6 stick would have been more than fine too.

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  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    kyfdx said:

    omarman said:

    tmart said:

    omarman said:


    Survyvor. See what I did there?

    80 Monza Spyder.
    Correct. 1980 MONZA SYPDER SURVIVOR 4 SPD with Iron Duke 4 cyl.
    You could get the Monza with a 305 V-8, at one point
    And a california-spec 350 at one point. Maybe 125 hp in the Monza?
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  • jpp75jpp75 Member Posts: 1,535
    Some of these are difficult because of the snow but a few I was able to pick out.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    omarman said:

    kyfdx said:

    omarman said:

    tmart said:

    omarman said:


    Survyvor. See what I did there?

    80 Monza Spyder.
    Correct. 1980 MONZA SYPDER SURVIVOR 4 SPD with Iron Duke 4 cyl.
    You could get the Monza with a 305 V-8, at one point
    And a california-spec 350 at one point. Maybe 125 hp in the Monza?
    Yes, and it was the least powerful Chevy 350 ever put into a production car.
  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    Only thing I can pick out is: Blizzard of 1978! I was driving home from a friends apartment that night and the weather was pretty mild. Just wet and cold. But by the time I got back to my house about 25 miles away the snow storm was moving in quickly and the roads turned awful. Didn't help that I was driving my '68 Torino GT.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,827
    white Toyota Corona front right. Dark Volvo wagon 3 back, and off it's left flank, an AMC Concorde. Possibly an eagle, but hard to tell from this angle in the snow. Behind the AMC, I think the white 4 door is a Fairmont.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 269,281
    Mr_Shiftright said:

    omarman said:

    kyfdx said:

    omarman said:

    tmart said:

    omarman said:


    Survyvor. See what I did there?

    80 Monza Spyder.
    Correct. 1980 MONZA SYPDER SURVIVOR 4 SPD with Iron Duke 4 cyl.
    You could get the Monza with a 305 V-8, at one point
    And a california-spec 350 at one point. Maybe 125 hp in the Monza?
    Yes, and it was the least powerful Chevy 350 ever put into a production car.
    My ‘77 Mustang II with a 302 V-8 had a whopping 135 HP.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    edited February 2018
    tmart said:


    Olds, 68 Chevy, Stube, 57 Ford Fairlane 500, Olds.

    Here's the picture again...



    The car on the left is a '56 Pontiac, probably a Chieftan, The Chevy is '58 low ender (210 or Biscayne). The Studebaker is early 50s from the coming/going era of Studebaker styling. You're right about the '57 Ford and I think the two-tone passing by is a '55 or '56 Poncho

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  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    omarman said:

    Only thing I can pick out is: Blizzard of 1978! I was driving home from a friends apartment that night and the weather was pretty mild. Just wet and cold. But by the time I got back to my house about 25 miles away the snow storm was moving in quickly and the roads turned awful. Didn't help that I was driving my '68 Torino GT.

    It was the greatest snowstorm of my lifetime.
    After the snowfall ended, 30 hours passed before the first plow truck went by my house.
    I had a '68 LeMans 350, 4 on the floor.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,728
    The 57 Ford is a Town Sedan. It's not the hardtop 4-door.
    The Studebaker looks like a 1950. The 1951 models had a bulbous protrusion in the top half of the taillight lens. I blew this up and the taillight looks planar. We had a 1950 2-door Champion.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    kyfdx said:

    Mr_Shiftright said:

    omarman said:

    kyfdx said:

    omarman said:

    tmart said:

    omarman said:


    Survyvor. See what I did there?

    80 Monza Spyder.
    Correct. 1980 MONZA SYPDER SURVIVOR 4 SPD with Iron Duke 4 cyl.
    You could get the Monza with a 305 V-8, at one point
    And a california-spec 350 at one point. Maybe 125 hp in the Monza?
    Yes, and it was the least powerful Chevy 350 ever put into a production car.
    My ‘77 Mustang II with a 302 V-8 had a whopping 135 HP.
    I think that reports of the day said the Mustang was a bit faster and much more gas-hungry. The Monza 350 was built for MPG.
  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    imidazol97 said:

    The 57 Ford is a Town Sedan. It's not the hardtop 4-door.
    The Studebaker looks like a 1950. The 1951 models had a bulbous protrusion in the top half of the taillight lens. I blew this up and the taillight looks planar. We had a 1950 2-door Champion.

    My parents had a '51 Champion.
    I still have its jack and use that scissor jack for various tasks.
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I knew a guy who owned one of those Monza hatchbacks. Decent looking for the time (if you could fit in it). He claimed they had to partially pull the engine, or some such, to change out the back plugs. I kind of liked the Olds Firenza and Buick Skyhawk versions.
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    It wasn't all that long ago that something similar stranded a lot of drivers on Chicago' Lake Shore Drive. Nasty stuff! It was so cold that I don't think any of those affected even got robbed B)
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 269,281
    Mr_Shiftright said:

    kyfdx said:

    Mr_Shiftright said:

    omarman said:

    kyfdx said:

    omarman said:

    tmart said:

    omarman said:


    Survyvor. See what I did there?

    80 Monza Spyder.
    Correct. 1980 MONZA SYPDER SURVIVOR 4 SPD with Iron Duke 4 cyl.
    You could get the Monza with a 305 V-8, at one point
    And a california-spec 350 at one point. Maybe 125 hp in the Monza?
    Yes, and it was the least powerful Chevy 350 ever put into a production car.
    My ‘77 Mustang II with a 302 V-8 had a whopping 135 HP.
    I think that reports of the day said the Mustang was a bit faster and much more gas-hungry. The Monza 350 was built for MPG.
    I can tell you with authority that a Mustang II with V-8 and 4-speed could out-pull a 305 Camaro of the same vintage.... to about 50 mph.. After that, it was all over for the Ford. ;)

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    edited February 2018


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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    Is this thing on? Surely someone can ID the little sportster. If it hadn't been successful there
    might never have been a Thunderbird...or Corvette.

    Here's another one>

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,654
    MGTF, or, how to keep the 30s living into the mid 50s.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    fintail said:

    MGTF, or, how to keep the 30s living into the mid 50s.

    Lol, right you are Fin. 1954MY

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    My favorite of the postwar T Midget series. Sturdier and faster than the TC, and way prettier than the homely TD imo.

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    Mr_Shiftright said:

    My favorite of the postwar T Midget series. Sturdier and faster than the TC, and way prettier than the homely TD imo.

    Oh yeah way prettier, despite having similar styling features





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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    Needs work>


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