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Audi A3 Prices Paid and Buying Experiences

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  • ccd1ccd1 Posts: 140
    I park out in the open as well before getting on the Metro. But this is DC and it usually warms up during the day, even during the Winter. Can't remember a time in 3 years when heated mirror would have come in handy.

    But misterjj has the perfect solution. I've heard great things about European style split mirrors anyway and was thinking of installing them along with tinting the windows to make it a little more difficult to see into the car.
  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Posts: 1,798
    FYI A co-worker gave me several drives in his AWD Subaru WTX. My impressions was it was ok response wise (but you needed to get the revs up for the turbo to do anything), rode well (firm, not harsh), and cornered flatly with good control. But the interior is bargain basement (acres cheap gray plastic) and the rear seat is pretty cramped.

    I too am on the fence regarding the A3, which has great interior and superb drivetrain, but lack of dealer service and reliability are concerns. But, am hoping for 2007 model year (not far off) that A3 options will be simplified, reliability will be proven, and (fingers x'ed) the Quattro will get a direct injection engine and a touring suspension option.

    The only other car I know of that __might__ be an alternative is the SRT-4 version of the Dodge Caliber. Its interior will probably be Subaru class, but handling and ride may be competitive. We shall see! ;)
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    "The only other car I know of that __might__ be an alternative is the SRT-4 version of the Dodge Caliber. Its interior will probably be Subaru class, but handling and ride may be competitive."

    That's not a bet that I'd take. The Caliber SRT4 has 225/45 R19 tires wrapped around 19" wheels, here's betting that not only would it be really rough on less than perfect pavement, the driver of a Caliber would be watching the taillights of an A3 pulling away on a tight road course.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • moto99moto99 Posts: 4
    I was wondering if a Audi A3 2.0T Manual with the sport pkg, cold weather pkg, sound pkg, and Bi-Xenon headlights for a total of $31,470 out of the dealer is a good price. Can someone let me know. Thanks.

    Moto99
  • misterjjmisterjj Posts: 32
    I was wondering if a Audi A3 2.0T Manual with the sport pkg, cold weather pkg, sound pkg, and Bi-Xenon headlights for a total of $31,470 out of the dealer is a good price. Can someone let me know. Thanks.

    Are you kidding? MSRP is $29,510. Did you forget to mention NAV system? My deal was $1000 over invoice with absolutely NO additional fees. No prep or marketing or any other add-on fees. I think I got a good and fair deal. You probably should be able to do a little better or a little worse depending on the dealer competition in your area. Use the TMV invoice pricing here on edmunds as a base and negotiate from there.
  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Posts: 1,798
    does that include the taxes and licensing fees?

    Wrt Caliber SRT-4 .vs. Audi A3, if Dodge is stupid enough to put 19" ultra-lo pro tires on that Caliber, on any rough road the Audi 2.0 will definitely be showing its tailights to it.
  • moto99moto99 Posts: 4
    this price is including tax and handling fees. the car itself is priced at $29049. How does this sound now?
  • ccd1ccd1 Posts: 140
    In the DC Metro area, the aggressive dealers seem to be pricing the 3.2 on the internet for a little over $700 under MSRP. Looks like they are taking the $720 delivery charge off.

    What are people seeing in other areas?
  • There is no Subaru WTX model in the USA. I believe you are thinking of the Impreza WRX that comes in sedan and wagon models. Also, do you know what model year your friend's car was? For 2006 Subaru changed engines, placing the 2.5 230 hp engine in the WRX which has no turbo lag.

    You can also get leather and a moonroof in the WRX, nad even with those options, It's still less than a similar A3, plus you get AWD. Granted, the interior is more spartan, byut that is another area that they upgraded for 2006.
  • Thanks to all who post here.

    I just agreed to purchase a 2.0T MT, basically stripped, which is just about right for me. Prices, before tax, license, etc.:

    MSRP (Base, Paint, Destination) = 25,910.

    Invoice = 24,128.

    I just agreed to 24,800, which is 1,110 under MSRP and 672 over invoice.

    Purchased from Tucson Audi (Arizona). They did not have the combo I wanted (silver with with black interior), but there is one on its way in 3-4 weeks.

    I first tried the Subaru WRX wagon, which I liked quite a bit (esp. the seats), but it seemed to be somewhat of a step down in overall quality compared to the A3, especially the interior materials. Nice though.

    I tried the normally aspirated Outback and it was nice too, but I found it boring.

    Finally, I tried the new VW GTI given it's common platform and motor with the A3. Liked it, esp. the $3,000 less, and their willingness to sell just above invoice. It has some useful stuff standard than the A3 doesn't have or is an option (mp3 6-disk CD player, standard trip computer); I like the typical sunroof too. In the end, it's just a bit too much "boy racer" for this 41 year-old.

    So I sprung for the A3. First new car in 15 years!

    :)
  • misterjjmisterjj Posts: 32
    this price is including tax and handling fees. the car itself is priced at $29049. How does this sound now?

    That's less than $500 below MSRP. You should be able to do better. My experience:

    First dealer wanted MSRP and eventually gave me $500 below MSRP and made it sound like some huge favor. I mentioned the Costco discount and they said they didn't participate in the Costco program because it wasn't "fair". :confuse:

    The second dealer would do Costco price ($750 over invoice) but there would be added fees and I would have to go through the fleet manager who seemed way to busy to spend much time with me. The regular salesman had treated me well so I agreed to buy from him at $1000 over invoice with no additional fees (about $1000 below MSRP). Try to negotiate from invoice price and watch out for a low price but with added dealer prep and other fees.
  • ccd1ccd1 Posts: 140
    I've been curious about the Costco program since it seems to be one of the best no hassle buying programs around. Was the price under the program $750 over invoice for the base car and MSRP for all options or $750 over invoice for the car and the options?
  • ccd1ccd1 Posts: 140
    I along with everyone else have had reservations about the pricing of the A3 3.2. Happened to be looking at the 3.2 inventory and asking prices for a local dealer and noticed a 2004 S4 Avant that was priced the same as a loaded 3.2.

    It seemed like a 2 yr old S4 Avant with low miles could be a real alternative to the 3.2. Yes, it is used and I have questions how anyone owning a S4 drove the car. However, you avoid the big depreciation hits of the first 2 years of ownership, the car is bigger and has more utility, and it is one heck of a lot more powerful. The only downside besides finding one that hadn't been abused is that you are kissing any semblance of good gas mileage goodbye.

    Any thoughts???
  • moto99moto99 Posts: 4
    Thanks for the help. Unfortunately there are only two dealerships in Denver to work with and only one has the car that I am looking for. They don't have a hugh stock of A3. However, I did get them to throw in the HP Solar Gard window tint for free and that they would get me 5 A/S tire at cost when my performance tires are worned out. Installation included. I guess small markets has its restrictions. Thanks again.
  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Posts: 1,798
    The 3.2 's engine doesn't seem to have direct injection. If so it'll be less efficient than the 2.0 's (the latter has excellent lo rev torque for a "small" motor).

    I remember you mentioning you didn't like the 3.2's ride on rough roads. How does the S4 do in comparison?

    (both of above and high cost's why I gave up on A3 3.2)

    Does/Will the S4 run on regular without any problem? The A3 2.0 apparently will, but I doubt the 3.2s' older engine would handle this as well (am I wrong here? :confuse: ).
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    "Does/Will the S4 run on regular without any problem? The A3 2.0 apparently will..."

    Why would you even want to? :confuse:

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • ccd1ccd1 Posts: 140
    I have to agree with Shipo. If you are worried about gas mileage or type of gas used, get a Prius. The A3 2.0 gets better gas mileage than the 3.2 and you can get the regular suspension on the 2.0 and it costs less money. If those are your concerns, the 2.0 becomes a no-brainer.

    The S4 Avant gets MUCH worse gas mileage than the 3.2. That car has a V-8 in it and a 2 yr old S4 will cost as much as a brand new loaded 3.2. There is a good review of both the 3.2 and the S4 Avant at thetruthaboutcars.com

    Here you are complaining about the cost of the 3.2, but in another thread here you are talking about how Audi could sell S3s and RS3s in the US. Cost is an issue with the A3 and is the major reason why people just don't run out and get the car.
  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Posts: 1,798
    Sometimes Gas prices skyrocket, or you can't get the gas you want (70's oil embargo? I went thru it in both my German cars). It's good the A3 series can tolerate regular for short times - some cars cannot.

    The Edmunds audi town hall transcript here was a good read!
    Fingers x'ed on the 2.0 T AWD!

    Also, Boomers are becomming a dominant market. A lot of them grew up with VW and by association, Audi. They want fast, powerful, luxo cars, but not necessarrly huge ones. That RS3 market may be here!
  • ccd1ccd1 Posts: 140
    Money is not the issue, image and comfort is. You've been complaining about the suspension in the S-line. The S3 is firmer and the RS3 is even more firm. How many boomers will fit into the A3s narrow seats and how many boomers will tolerate a suspension that firm. Very, very few.
  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Posts: 1,798
    At the LA auto show, it seemed boomers were the primary A3 observers (Gen Y was crowding 'round Scion).
    MSN had an article suggesting Boomers were a huge market for the very kinds of cars Audi and BMW are marketing, especially high power cars enthusasists love.

    Didn't Shipo comment how desirable the S3 and GS3 would be? I'll bet they're others out there feeling the same. One way Audi would know is to offer the GS3 engine as an option and build very few of them to keep cost down and demand high.

    As for my complaining, it's mainly because Audi has decided AWD only belongs on an S line. Your roads, ccd1, mirror mine! The AUDI dealer I visited also felt the S didn't work well in town (the open road's whole notha story!).

    April/May, another poster mentioned, is switchover time for Audi and VW, so maybe '07 will offer more choices!
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