AMG GT Leasing Questions

iputty

I got this quote, it seems way off from Leasehackr calculator which gives me a monthly of $2555 with same numbers entered so I'm not sure where the extra money is going.

MSRP: $166,925
Discount: $3,500
Selling Price: $163,425
Lease Term: 36 months
Mileage allowance: 22,500
Registered in State of MD
Multiple Security Deposit: $31,500
Total at Signing including first month's payment: $34,434
Payment: $2,934
Includes Pre-Paid Maintenance + Wheel & Tire Protection ($4500)
Residual amount of 55% = $91,809
Money Factor: .00175

Thoughts?

kyfdx

iputty said:

I got this quote, it seems way off from Leasehackr calculator which gives me a monthly of $2555 with same numbers entered so I'm not sure where the extra money is going.

MSRP: $166,925
Discount: $3,500
Selling Price: $163,425
Lease Term: 36 months
Mileage allowance: 22,500
Registered in State of MD
Multiple Security Deposit: $31,500
Total at Signing including first month's payment: $34,434
Payment: $2,934
Includes Pre-Paid Maintenance + Wheel & Tire Protection ($4500)
Residual amount of 55% = $91,809
Money Factor: .00175

Thoughts?

You need the adjusted CAP cost, after adding the acquisition fee, maintenance, wheel protection and sales tax. (MD taxes the full price of the vehicle).

What is the money factor after the MSD discount?
If .00175 is after the MSD discount, then that's a big markup to the money factor.

iputty

He says that is the adjusted cap cost, and is the “after msd” money factor. Where should I expect the money factor to be, in .0010 range?

I still don’t understand why the numbers do add up in the calculator if all inputs are the same.

Thx!

kyfdx

iputty said:

He says that is the adjusted cap cost, and is the “after msd” money factor. Where should I expect the money factor to be, in .0010 range?

I still don’t understand why the numbers do add up in the calculator if all inputs are the same.

Thx!

.00165 is the standard MF. 10 MSDs should reduce it to .00090. That makes the markup .00085. Equivalent to marking up an interest rate by 2%.

If you are only paying MSDs upfront, along with the first payment, then you have to add to the CAP cost:
$9800 sales tax (est)
$300 DMV (est)
$500 doc fee (guess)
$1095 acquisition fee (max markup)
$4500 maintenance/insurance plan

$16,200, more or less, total.

That makes the adjusted CAP $179,625 (approx)

That gives me $2914/mo, which isn't too far off, considering I was estimating.

Just 2% off MSRP, with a massive markup to the money factor... not a good deal.

Ang1217

2020 GT53 4 door
36/12k
RV
MF
Incentives
33901

Michaell

Ang1217 said:

2020 GT53 4 door
36/12k
RV
MF
Incentives
33901

.00151 and 55%
No incentives

rc11

2021 GT63s 4 Door
36/12k
MF and residual

Thank you!

Michaell

rc11 said:

2021 GT63s 4 Door
36/12k
MF and residual

Thank you!

Standard MF and 51%

ddk

2021 GT43 4-door
36/10k
Zip: 07302
MF, residual, and incentives please (is there any truth to incentives generally coming around in March?)

Thank you!

Michaell

ddk said:

2021 GT43 4-door
36/10k
Zip: 07302
MF, residual, and incentives please (is there any truth to incentives generally coming around in March?)

Thank you!

.00160 and 58%
No incentives, this month

No knowledge about any future incentives - but, on the AMG models, they are few and far between.

charlottesaudi

Hello, Do you have any rates for the 2021 AMG GT Coupe?

kyfdx

charlottesaudi said:

Hello, Do you have any rates for the 2021 AMG GT Coupe?

36/15
Standard MF and 52% residual

charlottesaudi

what is the standard MF?

kyfdx

charlottesaudi said:

what is the standard MF?

This month, the standard MF is .00155

ddk

Hello! Can I get a refresh of the MF and residual for:

2021 GT43 4-door
36/10k

Would this be based on the zip code of the dealer that I'd be purchasing from (20874) or where I reside (07086)? Thanks!

kyfdx

ddk said:

Hello! Can I get a refresh of the MF and residual for:

2021 GT43 4-door
36/10k

Would this be based on the zip code of the dealer that I'd be purchasing from (20874) or where I reside (07086)? Thanks!

.00142 MF and 57% residual

Nationwide

ddk

kyfdx said:

ddk said:

Hello! Can I get a refresh of the MF and residual for:

2021 GT43 4-door
36/10k

Would this be based on the zip code of the dealer that I'd be purchasing from (20874) or where I reside (07086)? Thanks!

.00142 MF and 57% residual

Nationwide

Thank you!

mbnj2123

Hello! Can I get the MF and Residual for a 2020 AMG GTC cabriolet at 24 and 36 months with 7,500 miles per year. Any incentives? Thanks!

kyfdx

mbnj2123 said:

Hello! Can I get the MF and Residual for a 2020 AMG GTC cabriolet at 24 and 36 months with 7,500 miles per year. Any incentives? Thanks!

.00066 MF
55%/51% residual

$7500 dealer incentive

carguy1985

What is the
MF and Residual 2020 AMG GT C Hardtop 36/7500yr?
How much incentives?
90210

Thank you as per usual!

Michaell

carguy1985 said:

What is the
MF and Residual 2020 AMG GT C Hardtop 36/7500yr?
How much incentives?
90210

Thank you as per usual!

.00057 and 50%
$7500 dealer cash

carguy1985

Michaell said:

carguy1985 said:

What is the
MF and Residual 2020 AMG GT C Hardtop 36/7500yr?
How much incentives?
90210

Thank you as per usual!

.00057 and 50%
$7500 dealer cash

Any changes for April?

Thank you!

Michaell

carguy1985 said:

Michaell said:

carguy1985 said:

What is the
MF and Residual 2020 AMG GT C Hardtop 36/7500yr?
How much incentives?
90210

Thank you as per usual!

.00057 and 50%
$7500 dealer cash

Any changes for April?

Thank you!

No changes

shachiku

Looking for MF and Residual value for 2021 amg gt 53 4-door and amg gt 63 (non s)

36mo/7k miles (is that an option?) if not 10k miles/year

Michaell

shachiku said:

Looking for MF and Residual value for 2021 amg gt 53 4-door and amg gt 63 (non s)

Lease term and miles per year?

shachiku

Michaell said:

shachiku said:

Looking for MF and Residual value for 2021 amg gt 53 4-door and amg gt 63 (non s)

Lease term and miles per year?

sorry. forgot about it. edited the post.

36mo/7k miles (is that an option?) if not 10k miles/year

also, what would it be the MF with MSD? (max allowed by MB?) and Single Pay Lease?

kyfdx

shachiku said:

Michaell said:

shachiku said:

Looking for MF and Residual value for 2021 amg gt 53 4-door and amg gt 63 (non s)

Lease term and miles per year?

sorry. forgot about it. edited the post.

36mo/7k miles (is that an option?) if not 10k miles/year

also, what would it be the MF with MSD? (max allowed by MB?) and Single Pay Lease?

36/7.5
53: .00142 MF and 57% residual
63: Standard MF and 54% residual

10 MSDs X .00007 = .00070 total MF reduction

Single pay = .00080 MF reduction

shachiku

kyfdx said:

shachiku said:

Michaell said:

shachiku said:

Looking for MF and Residual value for 2021 amg gt 53 4-door and amg gt 63 (non s)

Lease term and miles per year?

sorry. forgot about it. edited the post.

36mo/7k miles (is that an option?) if not 10k miles/year

also, what would it be the MF with MSD? (max allowed by MB?) and Single Pay Lease?

36/7.5
53: .00142 MF and 57% residual
63: Standard MF and 54% residual

10 MSDs X .00007 = .00070 total MF reduction

Single pay = .00080 MF reduction

Thanks a lot. This is exactly what the dealer is giving me. Do these payment look correct? If the dealer is giving me leasing options based on the MF you described, is it consider a "good","fair",or "bad" deal?

36mo/7.5k
MSRP: 117,670

Normal Lease:
Fees/tax at signing:
$9146 at signing
$1668/mon

Fees/tax + MSD:
$25604 at signing
($17,000 MSD - refunded at lease end)
$1539 / mon

Single-pay lease:
$61728 total due ($1520/mon)

kyfdx

shachiku said:

kyfdx said:

shachiku said:

Michaell said:

shachiku said:

Looking for MF and Residual value for 2021 amg gt 53 4-door and amg gt 63 (non s)

Lease term and miles per year?

sorry. forgot about it. edited the post.

36mo/7k miles (is that an option?) if not 10k miles/year

also, what would it be the MF with MSD? (max allowed by MB?) and Single Pay Lease?

36/7.5
53: .00142 MF and 57% residual
63: Standard MF and 54% residual

10 MSDs X .00007 = .00070 total MF reduction

Single pay = .00080 MF reduction

Thanks a lot. This is exactly what the dealer is giving me. Do these payment look correct? If the dealer is giving me leasing options based on the MF you described, is it consider a "good","fair",or "bad" deal?

36mo/7.5k
MSRP: 117,670

Normal Lease:
Fees/tax at signing:
$9146 at signing
$1668/mon

Fees/tax + MSD:
$25604 at signing
($17,000 MSD - refunded at lease end)
$1539 / mon

Single-pay lease:
$61728 total due ($1520/mon)

What is the selling price?
Adjusted CAP cost?

shachiku

kyfdx said:

shachiku said:

kyfdx said:

shachiku said:

Michaell said:

shachiku said:

Looking for MF and Residual value for 2021 amg gt 53 4-door and amg gt 63 (non s)

Lease term and miles per year?

sorry. forgot about it. edited the post.

36mo/7k miles (is that an option?) if not 10k miles/year

also, what would it be the MF with MSD? (max allowed by MB?) and Single Pay Lease?

36/7.5
53: .00142 MF and 57% residual
63: Standard MF and 54% residual

10 MSDs X .00007 = .00070 total MF reduction

Single pay = .00080 MF reduction

Thanks a lot. This is exactly what the dealer is giving me. Do these payment look correct? If the dealer is giving me leasing options based on the MF you described, is it consider a "good","fair",or "bad" deal?

36mo/7.5k
MSRP: 117,670

Normal Lease:
Fees/tax at signing:
$9146 at signing
$1668/mon

Fees/tax + MSD:
$25604 at signing
($17,000 MSD - refunded at lease end)
$1539 / mon

Single-pay lease:
$61728 total due ($1520/mon)

What is the selling price?
Adjusted CAP cost?

How should I got about negotiating the selling price and/or CAP cost? it seems like he is just selling me at MSRP.

What should I put in my Email to get them to provide me with more detailed info? I sort of hinted I want to see what that cost at Signing encompasses, but I dont' think he got the hint.

kyfdx

shachiku said:

kyfdx said:

shachiku said:

kyfdx said:

shachiku said:

Michaell said:

shachiku said:

Looking for MF and Residual value for 2021 amg gt 53 4-door and amg gt 63 (non s)

Lease term and miles per year?

sorry. forgot about it. edited the post.

36mo/7k miles (is that an option?) if not 10k miles/year

also, what would it be the MF with MSD? (max allowed by MB?) and Single Pay Lease?

36/7.5
53: .00142 MF and 57% residual
63: Standard MF and 54% residual

10 MSDs X .00007 = .00070 total MF reduction

Single pay = .00080 MF reduction

Thanks a lot. This is exactly what the dealer is giving me. Do these payment look correct? If the dealer is giving me leasing options based on the MF you described, is it consider a "good","fair",or "bad" deal?

36mo/7.5k
MSRP: 117,670

Normal Lease:
Fees/tax at signing:
$9146 at signing
$1668/mon

Fees/tax + MSD:
$25604 at signing
($17,000 MSD - refunded at lease end)
$1539 / mon

Single-pay lease:
$61728 total due ($1520/mon)

What is the selling price?
Adjusted CAP cost?

How should I got about negotiating the selling price and/or CAP cost? it seems like he is just selling me at MSRP.

What should I put in my Email to get them to provide me with more detailed info? I sort of hinted I want to see what that cost at Signing encompasses, but I dont' think he got the hint.

No different than buying a vehicle. The selling price is negotiable.
I would insist they lay out all of the numbers.

shachiku

kyfdx said:

shachiku said:

kyfdx said:

shachiku said:

kyfdx said:

shachiku said:

Michaell said:

shachiku said:

Looking for MF and Residual value for 2021 amg gt 53 4-door and amg gt 63 (non s)

Lease term and miles per year?

sorry. forgot about it. edited the post.

36mo/7k miles (is that an option?) if not 10k miles/year

also, what would it be the MF with MSD? (max allowed by MB?) and Single Pay Lease?

36/7.5
53: .00142 MF and 57% residual
63: Standard MF and 54% residual

10 MSDs X .00007 = .00070 total MF reduction

Single pay = .00080 MF reduction

Thanks a lot. This is exactly what the dealer is giving me. Do these payment look correct? If the dealer is giving me leasing options based on the MF you described, is it consider a "good","fair",or "bad" deal?

36mo/7.5k
MSRP: 117,670

Normal Lease:
Fees/tax at signing:
$9146 at signing
$1668/mon

Fees/tax + MSD:
$25604 at signing
($17,000 MSD - refunded at lease end)
$1539 / mon

Single-pay lease:
$61728 total due ($1520/mon)

What is the selling price?
Adjusted CAP cost?

How should I got about negotiating the selling price and/or CAP cost? it seems like he is just selling me at MSRP.

What should I put in my Email to get them to provide me with more detailed info? I sort of hinted I want to see what that cost at Signing encompasses, but I dont' think he got the hint.

No different than buying a vehicle. The selling price is negotiable.
I would insist they lay out all of the numbers.

Thank you for a lot of info. Do you happen to know the approximate "invoice price" the dealer pay for the car below MSRP so I sort of have an idea how to structure my offer?

Michaell

shachiku said:

kyfdx said:

shachiku said:

kyfdx said:

shachiku said:

kyfdx said:

shachiku said:

Michaell said:

shachiku said:

Looking for MF and Residual value for 2021 amg gt 53 4-door and amg gt 63 (non s)

Lease term and miles per year?

sorry. forgot about it. edited the post.

36mo/7k miles (is that an option?) if not 10k miles/year

also, what would it be the MF with MSD? (max allowed by MB?) and Single Pay Lease?

36/7.5
53: .00142 MF and 57% residual
63: Standard MF and 54% residual

10 MSDs X .00007 = .00070 total MF reduction

Single pay = .00080 MF reduction

Thanks a lot. This is exactly what the dealer is giving me. Do these payment look correct? If the dealer is giving me leasing options based on the MF you described, is it consider a "good","fair",or "bad" deal?

36mo/7.5k
MSRP: 117,670

Normal Lease:
Fees/tax at signing:
$9146 at signing
$1668/mon

Fees/tax + MSD:
$25604 at signing
($17,000 MSD - refunded at lease end)
$1539 / mon

Single-pay lease:
$61728 total due ($1520/mon)

What is the selling price?
Adjusted CAP cost?

How should I got about negotiating the selling price and/or CAP cost? it seems like he is just selling me at MSRP.

What should I put in my Email to get them to provide me with more detailed info? I sort of hinted I want to see what that cost at Signing encompasses, but I dont' think he got the hint.

No different than buying a vehicle. The selling price is negotiable.
I would insist they lay out all of the numbers.

Thank you for a lot of info. Do you happen to know the approximate "invoice price" the dealer pay for the car below MSRP so I sort of have an idea how to structure my offer?

Edmunds price tools

shachiku

Michaell said:

shachiku said:

kyfdx said:

shachiku said:

kyfdx said:

shachiku said:

kyfdx said:

shachiku said:

Michaell said:

shachiku said:

Looking for MF and Residual value for 2021 amg gt 53 4-door and amg gt 63 (non s)

Lease term and miles per year?

sorry. forgot about it. edited the post.

36mo/7k miles (is that an option?) if not 10k miles/year

also, what would it be the MF with MSD? (max allowed by MB?) and Single Pay Lease?

36/7.5
53: .00142 MF and 57% residual
63: Standard MF and 54% residual

10 MSDs X .00007 = .00070 total MF reduction

Single pay = .00080 MF reduction

Thanks a lot. This is exactly what the dealer is giving me. Do these payment look correct? If the dealer is giving me leasing options based on the MF you described, is it consider a "good","fair",or "bad" deal?

36mo/7.5k
MSRP: 117,670

Normal Lease:
Fees/tax at signing:
$9146 at signing
$1668/mon

Fees/tax + MSD:
$25604 at signing
($17,000 MSD - refunded at lease end)
$1539 / mon

Single-pay lease:
$61728 total due ($1520/mon)

What is the selling price?
Adjusted CAP cost?

How should I got about negotiating the selling price and/or CAP cost? it seems like he is just selling me at MSRP.

What should I put in my Email to get them to provide me with more detailed info? I sort of hinted I want to see what that cost at Signing encompasses, but I dont' think he got the hint.

No different than buying a vehicle. The selling price is negotiable.
I would insist they lay out all of the numbers.

Thank you for a lot of info. Do you happen to know the approximate "invoice price" the dealer pay for the car below MSRP so I sort of have an idea how to structure my offer?

Edmunds price tools

So Edmunds show the GT53 as MSRP $101,000, and Edmund suggests i pay 99,803. Do I take the difference here ($1197) and apply it to whatever optioned MSRP i have, and that show give me a fairly decent deal?

Michaell

shachiku said:

Michaell said:

shachiku said:

kyfdx said:

shachiku said:

kyfdx said:

shachiku said:

kyfdx said:

shachiku said:

Michaell said:

shachiku said:

Looking for MF and Residual value for 2021 amg gt 53 4-door and amg gt 63 (non s)

Lease term and miles per year?

sorry. forgot about it. edited the post.

36mo/7k miles (is that an option?) if not 10k miles/year

also, what would it be the MF with MSD? (max allowed by MB?) and Single Pay Lease?

36/7.5
53: .00142 MF and 57% residual
63: Standard MF and 54% residual

10 MSDs X .00007 = .00070 total MF reduction

Single pay = .00080 MF reduction

Thanks a lot. This is exactly what the dealer is giving me. Do these payment look correct? If the dealer is giving me leasing options based on the MF you described, is it consider a "good","fair",or "bad" deal?

36mo/7.5k
MSRP: 117,670

Normal Lease:
Fees/tax at signing:
$9146 at signing
$1668/mon

Fees/tax + MSD:
$25604 at signing
($17,000 MSD - refunded at lease end)
$1539 / mon

Single-pay lease:
$61728 total due ($1520/mon)

What is the selling price?
Adjusted CAP cost?

How should I got about negotiating the selling price and/or CAP cost? it seems like he is just selling me at MSRP.

What should I put in my Email to get them to provide me with more detailed info? I sort of hinted I want to see what that cost at Signing encompasses, but I dont' think he got the hint.

No different than buying a vehicle. The selling price is negotiable.
I would insist they lay out all of the numbers.

Thank you for a lot of info. Do you happen to know the approximate "invoice price" the dealer pay for the car below MSRP so I sort of have an idea how to structure my offer?

Edmunds price tools

So Edmunds show the GT53 as MSRP $101,000, and Edmund suggests i pay 99,803. Do I take the difference here ($1197) and apply it to whatever optioned MSRP i have, and that show give me a fairly decent deal?

That seems like a good approach

Unknown1

what is the mf/rv on 2021 amg gt 53/63 48/12 zip 38018?
Thanks

Michaell

Unknown1 said:

what is the mf/rv on 2021 amg gt 53/63 48/12 zip 38018?
Thanks

53 - .00142 MF and 46% residual
63 - standard MF and 44%

Bigtony1660

What is the current lease incentives, MF, and RV for the 43 and 53 4-door on 36/15 in 40502? There are a couple of dealerships around me that have some pretty aged units sitting around.

kyfdx

Bigtony1660 said:

What is the current lease incentives, MF, and RV for the 43 and 53 4-door on 36/15 in 40502? There are a couple of dealerships around me that have some pretty aged units sitting around.

.00142 MF
53%/52% residual for 43/53

Bigtony1660

@kyfdx said:
.00142 MF
53%/52% residual for 43/53

Any incentives?

Michaell

Bigtony1660 said:

@kyfdx said:

.00142 MF

53%/52% residual for 43/53

Any incentives?

No

Kuchdut311

Hi....thanks for providing this info...I'm interested in the RV/MF for a '21 AMG GT43, 4-door coupe in 80919...

12 month / 15k miles
36 month / 22.5k miles

(I do closer to 3-5k miles / year)

Michaell

Kuchdut311 said:

Hi....thanks for providing this info...I'm interested in the RV/MF for a '21 AMG GT43, 4-door coupe in 80919...

12 month / 15k miles
36 month / 22.5k miles

(I do closer to 3-5k miles / year)

The lowest mileage allowance from MB is 7500/yr
The shortest term from MB is 24 months

.00142 MF
62% / 57% for 24/36 months and 7500 miles

Kuchdut311

Michaell said:

Kuchdut311 said:

Hi....thanks for providing this info...I'm interested in the RV/MF for a '21 AMG GT43, 4-door coupe in 80919...

12 month / 15k miles
36 month / 22.5k miles

(I do closer to 3-5k miles / year)

The lowest mileage allowance from MB is 7500/yr
The shortest term from MB is 24 months

.00142 MF
62% / 57% for 24/36 months and 7500 miles

Oops...that was my mistake, should have been 24/15...Thanks for catching that, the quick response and info...

Take care

Michaell

Kuchdut311 said:

Michaell said:

Kuchdut311 said:

Hi....thanks for providing this info...I'm interested in the RV/MF for a '21 AMG GT43, 4-door coupe in 80919...

12 month / 15k miles
36 month / 22.5k miles

(I do closer to 3-5k miles / year)

The lowest mileage allowance from MB is 7500/yr
The shortest term from MB is 24 months

.00142 MF
62% / 57% for 24/36 months and 7500 miles

Oops...that was my mistake, should have been 24/15...Thanks for catching that, the quick response and info...

Take care

Add 4% for 15K miles

armand674

Hi can I get the MF & RV for a 2022 GT 53, 36/15 in zip code 33401. TIA

Michaell

armand674 said:

Hi can I get the MF & RV for a 2022 GT 53, 36/15 in zip code 33401. TIA

Standard MF and 48% RV

Kp93

Hello, can I get mf and residual on a 2023 Amg gt 53, zip code 02021, 36 months 7,500 miles

kyfdx

Kp93 said:

Hello, can I get mf and residual on a 2023 Amg gt 53, zip code 02021, 36 months 7,500 miles

Standard MF and 48% residual

Kp93

Standard = .00142?