I got this quote, it seems way off from Leasehackr calculator which gives me a monthly of $2555 with same numbers entered so I'm not sure where the extra money is going.
MSRP: $166,925 Discount: $3,500 Selling Price: $163,425 Lease Term: 36 months Mileage allowance: 22,500 Registered in State of MD Multiple Security Deposit: $31,500 Total at Signing including first month's payment: $34,434 Payment: $2,934 Includes Pre-Paid Maintenance + Wheel & Tire Protection ($4500) Residual amount of 55% = $91,809 Money Factor: .00175
I got this quote, it seems way off from Leasehackr calculator which gives me a monthly of $2555 with same numbers entered so I'm not sure where the extra money is going.
MSRP: $166,925 Discount: $3,500 Selling Price: $163,425 Lease Term: 36 months Mileage allowance: 22,500 Registered in State of MD Multiple Security Deposit: $31,500 Total at Signing including first month's payment: $34,434 Payment: $2,934 Includes Pre-Paid Maintenance + Wheel & Tire Protection ($4500) Residual amount of 55% = $91,809 Money Factor: .00175
Thoughts?
You need the adjusted CAP cost, after adding the acquisition fee, maintenance, wheel protection and sales tax. (MD taxes the full price of the vehicle).
What is the money factor after the MSD discount? If .00175 is after the MSD discount, then that's a big markup to the money factor.
He says that is the adjusted cap cost, and is the “after msd” money factor. Where should I expect the money factor to be, in .0010 range?
I still don’t understand why the numbers do add up in the calculator if all inputs are the same.
Thx!
.00165 is the standard MF. 10 MSDs should reduce it to .00090. That makes the markup .00085. Equivalent to marking up an interest rate by 2%.
If you are only paying MSDs upfront, along with the first payment, then you have to add to the CAP cost: $9800 sales tax (est) $300 DMV (est) $500 doc fee (guess) $1095 acquisition fee (max markup) $4500 maintenance/insurance plan
$16,200, more or less, total.
That makes the adjusted CAP $179,625 (approx)
That gives me $2914/mo, which isn't too far off, considering I was estimating.
Just 2% off MSRP, with a massive markup to the money factor... not a good deal.
Looking for MF and Residual value for 2021 amg gt 53 4-door and amg gt 63 (non s)
Lease term and miles per year?
sorry. forgot about it. edited the post.
36mo/7k miles (is that an option?) if not 10k miles/year
also, what would it be the MF with MSD? (max allowed by MB?) and Single Pay Lease?
36/7.5 53: .00142 MF and 57% residual 63: Standard MF and 54% residual
10 MSDs X .00007 = .00070 total MF reduction
Single pay = .00080 MF reduction
Thanks a lot. This is exactly what the dealer is giving me. Do these payment look correct? If the dealer is giving me leasing options based on the MF you described, is it consider a "good","fair",or "bad" deal?
36mo/7.5k MSRP: 117,670
Normal Lease: Fees/tax at signing: $9146 at signing $1668/mon
Fees/tax + MSD: $25604 at signing ($17,000 MSD - refunded at lease end) $1539 / mon
Looking for MF and Residual value for 2021 amg gt 53 4-door and amg gt 63 (non s)
Lease term and miles per year?
sorry. forgot about it. edited the post.
36mo/7k miles (is that an option?) if not 10k miles/year
also, what would it be the MF with MSD? (max allowed by MB?) and Single Pay Lease?
36/7.5 53: .00142 MF and 57% residual 63: Standard MF and 54% residual
10 MSDs X .00007 = .00070 total MF reduction
Single pay = .00080 MF reduction
Thanks a lot. This is exactly what the dealer is giving me. Do these payment look correct? If the dealer is giving me leasing options based on the MF you described, is it consider a "good","fair",or "bad" deal?
36mo/7.5k MSRP: 117,670
Normal Lease: Fees/tax at signing: $9146 at signing $1668/mon
Fees/tax + MSD: $25604 at signing ($17,000 MSD - refunded at lease end) $1539 / mon
Looking for MF and Residual value for 2021 amg gt 53 4-door and amg gt 63 (non s)
Lease term and miles per year?
sorry. forgot about it. edited the post.
36mo/7k miles (is that an option?) if not 10k miles/year
also, what would it be the MF with MSD? (max allowed by MB?) and Single Pay Lease?
36/7.5 53: .00142 MF and 57% residual 63: Standard MF and 54% residual
10 MSDs X .00007 = .00070 total MF reduction
Single pay = .00080 MF reduction
Thanks a lot. This is exactly what the dealer is giving me. Do these payment look correct? If the dealer is giving me leasing options based on the MF you described, is it consider a "good","fair",or "bad" deal?
36mo/7.5k MSRP: 117,670
Normal Lease: Fees/tax at signing: $9146 at signing $1668/mon
Fees/tax + MSD: $25604 at signing ($17,000 MSD - refunded at lease end) $1539 / mon
Single-pay lease: $61728 total due ($1520/mon)
What is the selling price? Adjusted CAP cost?
How should I got about negotiating the selling price and/or CAP cost? it seems like he is just selling me at MSRP.
What should I put in my Email to get them to provide me with more detailed info? I sort of hinted I want to see what that cost at Signing encompasses, but I dont' think he got the hint.
Looking for MF and Residual value for 2021 amg gt 53 4-door and amg gt 63 (non s)
Lease term and miles per year?
sorry. forgot about it. edited the post.
36mo/7k miles (is that an option?) if not 10k miles/year
also, what would it be the MF with MSD? (max allowed by MB?) and Single Pay Lease?
36/7.5 53: .00142 MF and 57% residual 63: Standard MF and 54% residual
10 MSDs X .00007 = .00070 total MF reduction
Single pay = .00080 MF reduction
Thanks a lot. This is exactly what the dealer is giving me. Do these payment look correct? If the dealer is giving me leasing options based on the MF you described, is it consider a "good","fair",or "bad" deal?
36mo/7.5k MSRP: 117,670
Normal Lease: Fees/tax at signing: $9146 at signing $1668/mon
Fees/tax + MSD: $25604 at signing ($17,000 MSD - refunded at lease end) $1539 / mon
Single-pay lease: $61728 total due ($1520/mon)
What is the selling price? Adjusted CAP cost?
How should I got about negotiating the selling price and/or CAP cost? it seems like he is just selling me at MSRP.
What should I put in my Email to get them to provide me with more detailed info? I sort of hinted I want to see what that cost at Signing encompasses, but I dont' think he got the hint.
No different than buying a vehicle. The selling price is negotiable. I would insist they lay out all of the numbers.
Looking for MF and Residual value for 2021 amg gt 53 4-door and amg gt 63 (non s)
Lease term and miles per year?
sorry. forgot about it. edited the post.
36mo/7k miles (is that an option?) if not 10k miles/year
also, what would it be the MF with MSD? (max allowed by MB?) and Single Pay Lease?
36/7.5 53: .00142 MF and 57% residual 63: Standard MF and 54% residual
10 MSDs X .00007 = .00070 total MF reduction
Single pay = .00080 MF reduction
Thanks a lot. This is exactly what the dealer is giving me. Do these payment look correct? If the dealer is giving me leasing options based on the MF you described, is it consider a "good","fair",or "bad" deal?
36mo/7.5k MSRP: 117,670
Normal Lease: Fees/tax at signing: $9146 at signing $1668/mon
Fees/tax + MSD: $25604 at signing ($17,000 MSD - refunded at lease end) $1539 / mon
Single-pay lease: $61728 total due ($1520/mon)
What is the selling price? Adjusted CAP cost?
How should I got about negotiating the selling price and/or CAP cost? it seems like he is just selling me at MSRP.
What should I put in my Email to get them to provide me with more detailed info? I sort of hinted I want to see what that cost at Signing encompasses, but I dont' think he got the hint.
No different than buying a vehicle. The selling price is negotiable. I would insist they lay out all of the numbers.
Thank you for a lot of info. Do you happen to know the approximate "invoice price" the dealer pay for the car below MSRP so I sort of have an idea how to structure my offer?
Looking for MF and Residual value for 2021 amg gt 53 4-door and amg gt 63 (non s)
Lease term and miles per year?
sorry. forgot about it. edited the post.
36mo/7k miles (is that an option?) if not 10k miles/year
also, what would it be the MF with MSD? (max allowed by MB?) and Single Pay Lease?
36/7.5 53: .00142 MF and 57% residual 63: Standard MF and 54% residual
10 MSDs X .00007 = .00070 total MF reduction
Single pay = .00080 MF reduction
Thanks a lot. This is exactly what the dealer is giving me. Do these payment look correct? If the dealer is giving me leasing options based on the MF you described, is it consider a "good","fair",or "bad" deal?
36mo/7.5k MSRP: 117,670
Normal Lease: Fees/tax at signing: $9146 at signing $1668/mon
Fees/tax + MSD: $25604 at signing ($17,000 MSD - refunded at lease end) $1539 / mon
Single-pay lease: $61728 total due ($1520/mon)
What is the selling price? Adjusted CAP cost?
How should I got about negotiating the selling price and/or CAP cost? it seems like he is just selling me at MSRP.
What should I put in my Email to get them to provide me with more detailed info? I sort of hinted I want to see what that cost at Signing encompasses, but I dont' think he got the hint.
No different than buying a vehicle. The selling price is negotiable. I would insist they lay out all of the numbers.
Thank you for a lot of info. Do you happen to know the approximate "invoice price" the dealer pay for the car below MSRP so I sort of have an idea how to structure my offer?
Looking for MF and Residual value for 2021 amg gt 53 4-door and amg gt 63 (non s)
Lease term and miles per year?
sorry. forgot about it. edited the post.
36mo/7k miles (is that an option?) if not 10k miles/year
also, what would it be the MF with MSD? (max allowed by MB?) and Single Pay Lease?
36/7.5 53: .00142 MF and 57% residual 63: Standard MF and 54% residual
10 MSDs X .00007 = .00070 total MF reduction
Single pay = .00080 MF reduction
Thanks a lot. This is exactly what the dealer is giving me. Do these payment look correct? If the dealer is giving me leasing options based on the MF you described, is it consider a "good","fair",or "bad" deal?
36mo/7.5k MSRP: 117,670
Normal Lease: Fees/tax at signing: $9146 at signing $1668/mon
Fees/tax + MSD: $25604 at signing ($17,000 MSD - refunded at lease end) $1539 / mon
Single-pay lease: $61728 total due ($1520/mon)
What is the selling price? Adjusted CAP cost?
How should I got about negotiating the selling price and/or CAP cost? it seems like he is just selling me at MSRP.
What should I put in my Email to get them to provide me with more detailed info? I sort of hinted I want to see what that cost at Signing encompasses, but I dont' think he got the hint.
No different than buying a vehicle. The selling price is negotiable. I would insist they lay out all of the numbers.
Thank you for a lot of info. Do you happen to know the approximate "invoice price" the dealer pay for the car below MSRP so I sort of have an idea how to structure my offer?
So Edmunds show the GT53 as MSRP $101,000, and Edmund suggests i pay 99,803. Do I take the difference here ($1197) and apply it to whatever optioned MSRP i have, and that show give me a fairly decent deal?
Looking for MF and Residual value for 2021 amg gt 53 4-door and amg gt 63 (non s)
Lease term and miles per year?
sorry. forgot about it. edited the post.
36mo/7k miles (is that an option?) if not 10k miles/year
also, what would it be the MF with MSD? (max allowed by MB?) and Single Pay Lease?
36/7.5 53: .00142 MF and 57% residual 63: Standard MF and 54% residual
10 MSDs X .00007 = .00070 total MF reduction
Single pay = .00080 MF reduction
Thanks a lot. This is exactly what the dealer is giving me. Do these payment look correct? If the dealer is giving me leasing options based on the MF you described, is it consider a "good","fair",or "bad" deal?
36mo/7.5k MSRP: 117,670
Normal Lease: Fees/tax at signing: $9146 at signing $1668/mon
Fees/tax + MSD: $25604 at signing ($17,000 MSD - refunded at lease end) $1539 / mon
Single-pay lease: $61728 total due ($1520/mon)
What is the selling price? Adjusted CAP cost?
How should I got about negotiating the selling price and/or CAP cost? it seems like he is just selling me at MSRP.
What should I put in my Email to get them to provide me with more detailed info? I sort of hinted I want to see what that cost at Signing encompasses, but I dont' think he got the hint.
No different than buying a vehicle. The selling price is negotiable. I would insist they lay out all of the numbers.
Thank you for a lot of info. Do you happen to know the approximate "invoice price" the dealer pay for the car below MSRP so I sort of have an idea how to structure my offer?
So Edmunds show the GT53 as MSRP $101,000, and Edmund suggests i pay 99,803. Do I take the difference here ($1197) and apply it to whatever optioned MSRP i have, and that show give me a fairly decent deal?
What is the current lease incentives, MF, and RV for the 43 and 53 4-door on 36/15 in 40502? There are a couple of dealerships around me that have some pretty aged units sitting around.
What is the current lease incentives, MF, and RV for the 43 and 53 4-door on 36/15 in 40502? There are a couple of dealerships around me that have some pretty aged units sitting around.
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MSRP: $166,925
Discount: $3,500
Selling Price: $163,425
Lease Term: 36 months
Mileage allowance: 22,500
Registered in State of MD
Multiple Security Deposit: $31,500
Total at Signing including first month's payment: $34,434
Payment: $2,934
Includes Pre-Paid Maintenance + Wheel & Tire Protection ($4500)
Residual amount of 55% = $91,809
Money Factor: .00175
Thoughts?
What is the money factor after the MSD discount?
If .00175 is after the MSD discount, then that's a big markup to the money factor.
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I still don’t understand why the numbers do add up in the calculator if all inputs are the same.
Thx!
If you are only paying MSDs upfront, along with the first payment, then you have to add to the CAP cost:
$9800 sales tax (est)
$300 DMV (est)
$500 doc fee (guess)
$1095 acquisition fee (max markup)
$4500 maintenance/insurance plan
$16,200, more or less, total.
That makes the adjusted CAP $179,625 (approx)
That gives me $2914/mo, which isn't too far off, considering I was estimating.
Just 2% off MSRP, with a massive markup to the money factor... not a good deal.
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36/12k
RV
MF
Incentives
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No incentives
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36/12k
MF and residual
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
36/10k
Zip: 07302
MF, residual, and incentives please (is there any truth to incentives generally coming around in March?)
Thank you!
No incentives, this month
No knowledge about any future incentives - but, on the AMG models, they are few and far between.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
Standard MF and 52% residual
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2021 GT43 4-door
36/10k
Would this be based on the zip code of the dealer that I'd be purchasing from (20874) or where I reside (07086)? Thanks!
Nationwide
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55%/51% residual
$7500 dealer incentive
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MF and Residual 2020 AMG GT C Hardtop 36/7500yr?
How much incentives?
90210
Thank you as per usual!
$7500 dealer cash
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36mo/7k miles (is that an option?) if not 10k miles/year
also, what would it be the MF with MSD? (max allowed by MB?) and Single Pay Lease?
53: .00142 MF and 57% residual
63: Standard MF and 54% residual
10 MSDs X .00007 = .00070 total MF reduction
Single pay = .00080 MF reduction
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36mo/7.5k
MSRP: 117,670
Normal Lease:
Fees/tax at signing:
$9146 at signing
$1668/mon
Fees/tax + MSD:
$25604 at signing
($17,000 MSD - refunded at lease end)
$1539 / mon
Single-pay lease:
$61728 total due ($1520/mon)
Adjusted CAP cost?
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What should I put in my Email to get them to provide me with more detailed info? I sort of hinted I want to see what that cost at Signing encompasses, but I dont' think he got the hint.
I would insist they lay out all of the numbers.
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Thanks
63 - standard MF and 44%
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53%/52% residual for 43/53
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Any incentives?
Any incentives?
No
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
12 month / 15k miles
36 month / 22.5k miles
(I do closer to 3-5k miles / year)
The shortest term from MB is 24 months
.00142 MF
62% / 57% for 24/36 months and 7500 miles
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Hello, can I get mf and residual on a 2023 Amg gt 53, zip code 02021, 36 months 7,500 miles
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Standard = .00142?